View Full Version : Good price to pay for a bottle of IV morphine??
OpiumKing
04-30-2009, 12:59 AM
My friend has access to a bottle of IV morphine, and he's getting it for free. He doesn't shoot, so he's going to sell it to me for pretty cheap. Not sure how many mg per mL it is, but he says its a pretty decent sized bottle (about the height of a pack of Camel 99 cigarettes) and apparently the liquid is a kind of baby blue/ greenish color? Does this sound legit? And what would be a good price for me to pay for it?
losangeleslifer
04-30-2009, 01:02 AM
Greenish blue?
Aww damn man wheres it coming from?
IV morphine has no color, it doesnt need it?!?!?!?
Sounds scetchy to me, and young blood, you need to be careful pumping shit in your veins. Hold off until a someone with some med backround gets to this thread man.
OpiumKing
04-30-2009, 01:24 AM
Greenish blue?
Aww damn man wheres it coming from?
IV morphine has no color, it doesnt need it?!?!?!?
Sounds scetchy to me, and young blood, you need to be careful pumping shit in your veins. Hold off until a someone with some med backround gets to this thread man.
Will do. He won't be getting it until at least next tuesday so I'm in no hurry. He also said I could take a look at it before I buy, so I'll be able to see it first hand and get more info on it.
I have NEVER seen IV morphine in any other but clear. I have never worked in a hospital, but have been in one more than I would have liked (mom had cancer for a looooong time, she's fine now) and they have ALWAYS been clear.
Furthermore, if this is not ganked straight from the hospital, just because it is liquid doesn't mean it is IV...it could be oral solution..just a heads up.
Run it by us before you slam it my man, would hate to see you get hurt.
losangeleslifer
04-30-2009, 01:56 AM
Will do. He won't be getting it until at least next tuesday so I'm in no hurry. He also said I could take a look at it before I buy, so I'll be able to see it first hand and get more info on it.
Good.
IV shit shouldn't have any color young one. Like I said, It does'nt need to. Give us bottle info. Maybe then.
Be safe young one..!!!!!
Uncle Wiggly
04-30-2009, 06:59 AM
My wife has been an RN for over 20 years and she just told me she's never seen Morphine for IV/IM use that has any color. It's always clear. The only variation is if it appears cloudy, then they waste it (throw it away).
I've seen bottles of Oxycodone Hydrochloride that is a greenish color but that's for oral use and is 20mg/mL.
WhyCatsPaint
04-30-2009, 07:44 AM
Just from what I have also experienced IV Morphine has always been clear, just like everyone else mentioned but out of curiosity I found this:
Morphine - properties and testing
from THE NATIONAL FORMULARY, 8TH EDITION (1946)
Description: Morphine HCl occurs as white, silky, glistening needles or
cubical masses, or as a white, crystaline powder. It is odorless, has a
bitter [MOST alkaloids have bitter tastes...], and is permanent in the
aid but is affected by light (???)
Soluability: 1G of Morphine HCl dissolves in about 17.5cc of water and in
about 52cc of alcohol at 25c; also in about .5cc of boiling water or
46cc of alcohol at 60c. It is soluable in glycerin, but insoluable in CHCl3
and ether.
Identification:
A: An aqeuous solution of Morphine HCl responds to the tests for chloride
ion [well, duh!?!?]
B: Place about 5mg of Morphine HCl on a watch glass, add .5cc of diluted
sulfuric acid and heat on a water bath for about 5 minutes. Cool and
add 5cc of sulfuric acid, containing in each cc 5mg of selenous acid:
an intense blue color appears which slowly changes to green and finally
to brown.
C: Morphine HCl with sulfuric acid, containing 5mg molybdic acid in each cc,
produces a purple color, changing to blue.
D: Sulfuric acid, containing in each cc. 1 drop of formaldehyde T.S., yields
an intensely purple color with Morphine HCl.
E: With nitric acid Morphine HCl produces an orange-red color fading to
yellow.
F: The addition of a few drops of freshly prepared ferric chloride T.S. to
an aqueous solution of Morphine HCl (1 in 100) produces a blue color,
which is destroyed by acids, by alcohol, or by heating.
G: Add potassium ferricyanide T.S. containing 1 drop of ferric chloride T.S.
in each cc., to an aqeuous solution of Morphine HCl (1 in 100): a deep
blue color is produced at once (***DIFFERENT FROM CODEINE!!!***)
There should be no residue after ignition of Morphine HCl
When a solution of Morphine HCl is warmed with NaOH, there should be no
evidence of the odor of ammonia.
(tests for)
Apomorphine: Add .1gm sodium bicarbonate and .1cc of iodine T.S. to an
aqeuous solution of Morphine HCl (1 in 50): when shaken with an equal
volume of ether, both layers should remain free from even a transient green
color.
Meconate: Add a few drops of ferric chloride T.S. to 5cc of an aqueous
solution of Morphine HCl (1 in 30), previously mixed with 5cc of diluted
hydrochloric acid: no red color is produced.
(removal)
Foreign Alkaloids: Disolve 1 gram of Morphine HCl in 10cc of NaOH T.S. in a
seperator, and shake the solution with successive portions of 15cc, 10cc,
and 10cc of chloroform, passing the chloroform solutions through a small
filter previously moistened with chloroform. Shake the combined chloroform
solutions with 5cc of distilled water, seperate the chloroform, and
evaporate it carefully to dryness on a water bath [uh, avoid the nasty
carcinogenic fumes which will also knock you out while your at it too]
Add to the RESIDUE thus obtained 10cc of .002 N sulfuric acid, heat gently
until disolved, cool, add 2 drops methyl red T.S., and titrate the excess
H2SO4 with .02 N NaOH: not less than 7.5cc of the latter should be required.
Link to the quote:
http://designer-drugs.com/pte/12.162.180.114/dcd/chemistry/morphine.test.txt
I know we have some chemist on here and would love to hear there input.
I would still be cautious even if they have the bottle that has a label you can never be sure if someone had taken the original contents and filled it with something completely different. I would be checking to make sure the bottle has not been tampered with.
Be careful.
Dan Steely
04-30-2009, 09:07 AM
try tasting it.
upstate_007
04-30-2009, 09:23 AM
try tasting it.
Or ship it to me for 'proper analysis'.
I have NEVER seen IV morphine in any other but clear. I have never worked in a hospital, but have been in one more than I would have liked (mom had cancer for a looooong time, she's fine now) and they have ALWAYS been clear.
Furthermore, if this is not ganked straight from the hospital, just because it is liquid doesn't mean it is IV...it could be oral solution..just a heads up.
Run it by us before you slam it my man, would hate to see you get hurt.
^^+1
It sounds like oral morphine. I believe the trade name is Oramorph. Let us know more when you see it.
jlaw666
04-30-2009, 01:42 PM
I have had the blue liquid morphine before, it is not for IV, it is an oral solution. And it is pretty weak. I did shoot it up. you get the pins and needle rush each time, but you have to do it like 20-30 times to really get high.... not worth it all...
roxi*stardust
05-01-2009, 11:27 AM
My wife has been an RN for over 20 years and she just told me she's never seen Morphine for IV/IM use that has any color. It's always clear. The only variation is if it appears cloudy, then they waste it (throw it away).
I've seen bottles of Oxycodone Hydrochloride that is a greenish color but that's for oral use and is 20mg/mL.
In all my years of mixing IVs I have NEVER seen any drug for injection with color in it with the exception of injections for procedures that require contrast like MRI or Arteriograms. Dyes are bad.
I have also never seen a vial of morphine for injection that large. Normally 10ml is the most common size, although some IV/IM. Medications do come in 20 or 50ml but those are medications like KCL or Lidocaine.
Uncle Wiggly mentioned the Oxy Fast liquid, 20mg/ml ORAL Concentrate, most likely what your friend is getting is MSO4 (morphine sulfate) oral concentrate not MSO4 for injection.
Ask if the vial is glass or plastic, strength of the solution, and the total volume.
Just from what I have also experienced IV Morphine has always been clear, just like everyone else mentioned but out of curiosity I found this:
Link to the quote:
http://designer-drugs.com/pte/12.162.180.114/dcd/chemistry/morphine.test.txt
I know we have some chemist on here and would love to hear there input.
I would still be cautious even if they have the bottle that has a label you can never be sure if someone had taken the original contents and filled it with something completely different. I would be checking to make sure the bottle has not been tampered with.
Be careful.
Just for the record what you linked to appears to be just a description of the chemicals used to identify morphine, mostly likely what is used by LE in those field tests. It is not actually a commerically available MSO4 inejection. It lists the colors morphine will will change to when those specific chemicals are added in certain quanities.
OpiumKing
05-03-2009, 08:35 PM
Twas legit. Just picked it up about an hour ago. What was making it look blue/green was the bottle. It was tinted that color. I drew some up in a rig and it was clear. And it says "for injection" on the bottle. Got a bottle of 25mg/ml morphine (500mg total) for 30 bucks!
Holy shit nice score. Please be very, very careful. I always noticed when shooting liquid drugs they seemed stronger mg/mg relative to pills...probably because basically nothing is lost in the prep process.
OxiContinKing
05-03-2009, 09:30 PM
Twas legit. Just picked it up about an hour ago. What was making it look blue/green was the bottle. It was tinted that color. I drew some up in a rig and it was clear. And it says "for injection" on the bottle. Got a bottle of 25mg/ml morphine (500mg total) for 30 bucks!
Well, for tonight atleast, you can be the Morphine-King.
(not really, but we'll let you think this...)
Haha, just fuckin with ya youngin, good score, and be safe brotha...
God_Albino
05-03-2009, 10:11 PM
my gramps was on a weak ass oral solution that was blue-green, pretty sure thats what this shit is man.
its not artificially flavored so maybe you could shoot it, i dunno, i just know shit was weak.
OxiContinKing
05-03-2009, 10:15 PM
its not artificially flavored so maybe you could shoot it, i dunno, i just know shit was weak.
For the sake of harm reduction, I though twice about posting this, but then it really got my mind going...
I know people who bang the liquid methadone (the cherry-FLAVORED shit), and they still have both of thier arms, and no problems, so what difference would it make if his morphine was 'flavored'...
Im not, by any means, saying that it is a good idea to bang oral solutions, but, it *can* be done...
Or atleast these 'junkies' that bang thier oral methadone do it, and have no problems...
dharma bum
05-04-2009, 09:37 AM
Do a follow-up in five years on those guys that shot cherry flavored methadone in their veins. I'm guessing their health may be a little worse.
I would never suggest shooting something. Period. Color or no. He coulda scored this off the friend that gave him the "unmarked oc's".
I shot a whole shitload of Oxy-Fast oral solution when I was in high school...I wonder if I am gonna be working with nubs here in a few years. Maybe I could get prescribed Oxy-Fast if I have to have my arms removed for the pain, and shoot it up.
More Feen
05-12-2009, 04:48 PM
Solutions of Pentobarbital for putting animals to sleep (killing them by barbiturate overdose) are usually coloured blue, or green--so the vet doesn't give this shit by mistake to a healthy pet (mix-ups happen).
If this friend of yours is giving you some crap to IV that is anything but clear, consider refusing it.
There are some fucked-up people out there who knowingly sell lethal shyte to people just for their own amusement.
There was a case were a pretty crafty chemist made shit-pure fentanyl and sold it as H--results were a lot of dead folks. When reporters & cameras confronted him while he was being escourted on the perp-walk, he said he simply "didn't give a shit."
If you search sites for hospital morphine, like Bakster (spell'd fonetikali) a 20-cc vial goes for US$5.
Cryin' shame we all can't get such a deal.
M F
Solutions of Pentobarbital for putting animals to sleep (killing them by barbiturate overdose) are usually coloured blue, or green--so the vet doesn't give this shit by mistake to a healthy pet (mix-ups happen).
If this friend of yours is giving you some crap to IV that is anything but clear, consider refusing it.
There are some fucked-up people out there who knowingly sell lethal shyte to people just for their own amusement.
There was a case were a pretty crafty chemist made shit-pure fentanyl and sold it as H--results were a lot of dead folks. When reporters & cameras confronted him while he was being escourted on the perp-walk, he said he simply "didn't give a shit."
If you search sites for hospital morphine, like Bakster (spell'd fonetikali) a 20-cc vial goes for US$5.
Cryin' shame we all can't get such a deal.
M F
actually in one of his other posts he said that it was just the bottle that made it look colored.
AGV10
06-08-2009, 07:18 AM
Just to reiterate/confirm what others have said.
MO Sulphate and Hydrochloride - they are only every presented in ampoules for IV - and either as a fine white crystaline powder (for dilution), or as a liquid - in both cases the liquid will crystal clear to slightly translucent yellow colour.
If its in a "bottle" (as opposed to amp) - at best it'll be Oramorph (which is useless injected) - which may have some form of flavouring added explaining the colour, but quite frankly it could just as easily be anything along the lines that others have suggested - to include a baldy given description by the seller (i.e. no more than a coloured bottle).
Either way, unless still sealed and there are enough markings on the bottle for you to undertake some additional research before using, I'd stay clear.
DreamSellerInc
06-09-2009, 11:53 AM
did noone read the OP's post above. They said the bottle said "for Injection" on it and the solution had no color. Listed the mg/ml that was listed on the bottle. Seems ever so legit to me. I'm dearly envious
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