Am I the only one ..

[PhoenixRisen]

who actually enjoys eating these fuckers? I've snorted them too, and it's a different high for sure, but I've found that if I eat 12 mg (no more, no less, definitely no less, and more will dometimes kill the high strangely enough), they'll take about 15-20 minutes, and then I'll flush. Most of the time I have to bite em in half.

I gather banging them's the best, but I only like needles in the hands of medical professionals... then strangely enough I do like them.. I like getting my blood drawn.. anywhoo off topic (I'm feeling nice right now)

Anyone else like to eat them?

[bigNasty]

yes to your first question and no to your second question.

[goagirl23]

I have never ever felt them unless I IV them. In fact, you may be the only person I have ever heard say they feel them when taken orally...

[okie dokie]

i didnt like eatin them at all, i ended up givin most of them away. i was disapointed with them:(

[oxyjon]

The one time I did dillies, I did 16mgs snorted. I was excited to finally try them. Then I did them and they were just ok, nothing to special. I dont i.v. because Im a pussy when it comes to needles, but that is a good thing for me. Back on topic, if I got those given to me by accident or some reason, no I would never eat them.

[Tha1der]

Dude i dont know what peoples issue is with these things. Like seriously, just cause you dont IV dilaudid doesnt mean they dont work.

Ive used all different types of opis, none IV'd outside of the hospital. Fent, Ox, Hydro, Dillys, whatever... and dilaudid orally is definatley worth it. Id take it over Vic any day of the week. I think snorting them is the best ROA for me... but i eat them too and they work just fine. They are only "active" for a few hours but they are still a nice high.

So no you arent the only one, I enjoy the Dillies... but snorting is more effective for me.

I was reading the Wikipedia article on Hydromorphone, and found an interesting paragraph about how you can take the pills sublingually which increase the bioavailability and speed of getting into the blood stream. Im going to start a thread about peoples expierience if any with this. Since people are always asking, "Whats the best ROA besides IV'ing" and usually the answer is plugging. But it seems like sublingually could work.

fly high,

1der

[dalottafun]

trust me son you have no idea how a dilly feels if you've only insufflated or eaten i really have no idea how you've felt anything either of those ways

[digby]

trust me son you have no idea how a dilly feels if you've only insufflated or eaten i really have no idea how you've felt anything either of those ways

Gosh, talk about a limited view based on seeing life exclusively through the tinted lens of one's own personal experience!

Hundreds of thousands of people around the world take hydromorphone by mouth as instructed and would not continue doing so if they did nothing. And I don't buy that this drug can take pain away without providing at least some degree of euphoria on many occasions for many people.

The truth of the matter is, this drug is heavily affected by metabolism, liver function, personal chemical makeup and above all, tolerance. Tolerance develops very quickly with this drug, and coupled with the body's ability to metastisise most of the drug much of the time, it is no wonder that most avid drug users don't experience much orally from dilaudid.

But new users to the drug or those with low tolerance most often will have a very pleasant experience taking the drug orally - and even more so if insuffilated. To voice the attitude that the drug is worthless because a hardcore IV user doesn't get high by eating the pills is just such a narrow view, I'm surprised it gets as much play time as the rest of the pharmaceutical top 40.

Oops, forgot. The forum consists of mostly hardcore past/present hardcore IV users. That explains a lot.
Point to remember - most of the world does not have the opiate tolerance that most of us on this forum have.

[Papa Verine]

I agree.

Of course they DO work orally. I think I would feel something if I took 12mg.

If I shot 12mg's I think I would really feel something.

There's just a big difference between oral and IV... that's what all the fuss is about Hydromorphone. The BIG difference. It gets exaggerated...

Not everybody here is a hardcore "shoot it or sell it" junkie. How about all us tea drinkers? We're all taking oral morphine. Morphine has a poor oral bioavailability.

With Hydromorphone, I usually recommend people plug it. It's not practical for me to plug 40 oz. of poppy tea, so I drink it. But a little pill??? Hydromorph can be easily dissolved in a small amount of water and plugged and it's a great ROA for people who don't like needles.

Hydromorphone and assholes go together like... well... you get the point.

[bigNasty]

trust me son you have no idea how a dilly feels if you've only insufflated or eaten i really have no idea how you've felt anything either of those ways
+1. I've never gotten anything out of eating or snorting dillies.

And digby, it does kill pain when taken orally but doesn't have much euphoria. It's euphoria is mainly the first 30 seconds after IV'ing it, then it's a good high for an hour or two, then good pain relief for another hour or two before quickly subsiding.

I'm not a hardcore IV user, nor do i have a huge tolerance(usually 40mg's of hydro or oxy dose) and there's no way i'd ever eat a dilly again. Even on the narcotic calculator it says 2mg IV'd equals 8mg's orally but I completely disagree with that...at least on a euphoria scale.

When 1-2 hydro's would have me feeling good, 4mg's of dilly snorted did nothing for me except a little pain relief.

[God_Albino]

i probably felt more eating them than i did the first 20+ times iv'ing (positive they were real hits and decent varying amounts), which is fucking bizarro world, but its true.

havent had a script for them for a long ass time, im thinking about giving them another try next time i go to the doc. oxy IR is just horseshit if youre iv'ing it. the buzz is done before i can load another shot

[lilred0005]

Like someone stated above, the difference in euphoria is quite large between IVing & the other roa. I was shocked @ the difference. I however do NOT recommend someone going to the needle. If it works for you orally, awesome, stick w/ that. As digby stated, everyone is different.

[digby]

+1. I've never gotten anything out of eating or snorting dillies.

And digby, it does kill pain when taken orally but doesn't have much euphoria. It's euphoria is mainly the first 30 seconds after IV'ing it, then it's a good high for an hour or two, then good pain relief for another hour or two before quickly subsiding.

I'm not a hardcore IV user, nor do i have a huge tolerance(usually 40mg's of hydro or oxy dose) and there's no way i'd ever eat a dilly again. Even on the narcotic calculator it says 2mg IV'd equals 8mg's orally but I completely disagree with that...at least on a euphoria scale.

When 1-2 hydro's would have me feeling good, 4mg's of dilly snorted did nothing for me except a little pain relief.

This is just my point BigNasty. Drug experience and effectiveness is sooooo individual, yet people keep posting about dillies as if there is no variation at all between people using the drug. When I have gotten my tolerance down low by tapering, as I do every so often, I would get very good pain control and a very nice high from snorting a 4 or an 8 mg dillie. On the other hand, 2 or 3 hydros would do absolutely nothing for me. But that's just me, and at a low tolerance level. The following week, it may take 30 mg of dilaudid to achieve the same results if I keep taking them daily. As I said, tolerance builds quickly.

IV works better - don't think anyone would ever argue that point and I don't think it is bad to tell people that. I just get so tired of the broken record stating that taking dillies any other way is worthless, which absolutely isn't true for everyone. Why insist that a newbie, at least new to the dilaudid game, must IV or else he/she is being stupid and wasteful? That isn't being truthful, helpful or harm reducing to someone that simply doesn't have the experience yet to know any better.

[dalottafun]

whoa digby...look at it this way, i'm just comparing my personal experience to his personal experience and ANYWHO i think that this guys getting high off eating dillies he misewell take some darvocet that's how bizarre it sounds to me

and anyone's view is limited by their own personal experience i mean how can i see things your way there's just no way so all in all everybody's view is limited in scope to a single individual personal view

[God_Albino]

my metabolism and tolerance are fucked, i can smoke 7 100mcg patches in a row but can only take a couple oxy 5's or 10-15 mgs of methadone at once (got bad guts).

i used to be able to gobble big boy sized oxys all day and just feel great when i was starting out with opiates, now its all fucked.

and yeah, darvocet and tramadol still make a faint impact on me

[dalottafun]

my metabolism and tolerance are fucked, i can smoke 7 100mcg patches in a row but can only take a couple oxy 5's or 10-15 mgs of methadone at once (got bad guts).

i used to be able to gobble big boy sized oxys all day and just feel great when i was starting out with opiates, now its all fucked.

and yeah, darvocet and tramadol still make a faint impact on me

sorry to hear that that totally sucks for you in many ways

[OxiContinKing]

sorry to hear that that totally sucks for you in many ways

I guess that depends on how you look at it, doesnt it?

[digby]

Don't mind me dalottafun. I think I misunderstood your post - in any event I certainly mean no harm. :)
As was pointed out by lilred and others, IV is a different animal. But I personally still enjoy most opiates without using a needle and know many others do as well. To each his own.