what's your worst withdrawal symptom.

[Suspiria]

For me it is deff the hot and cold sweats that keep me from sleeping and the horrible post nasal drip. i never puke or get the bad diarrhea that is normally accustomed to others. So let me know what is the worst part for you all.

[KiloByte]

Not being high any more.

[Papa Verine]

The depression. I can deal with all the physical symptoms. I can't stand the "gloom and doom" that goes on in my head.

[Ickyuck]

The depression. I can deal with all the physical symptoms. I can't stand the "gloom and doom" that goes on in my head.

Same here; when you see the end of your "acquisitions" its like seeing the end of the world. The heaviness of that feeling really weighs on you.

My other wost symptom is what i call the "creepy crawlies"; the feeling of wanting to crawl out of your skin. Your legs and arms feel rubbery and restless; its like tossing and turning 'cept you aren't asleep. I hate that.

[ka11ink]

The constant watery eyes (my tears are wicked salty) so when i get one tear it makes my eyes burn more and water more and burn more etc. That and all the snot and flem in the back of my throat. I swallow so much of the shit when I end up puking that's all that comes up (until I start retching so hard I start vomiting blood).

[insanesteveo]

i have to also say the chills/sweats. lately ive just had mild w/d so its just chills, but so annoying having a long sleeve t and a sweatshirt on in an 80 degree room and being cold.

my worst is the restlessness though. the feeling that you have to constantly keep stretching, but it does nothing for you. also pretty sure that feeling is why they call it "kicking"

im used to the depression, but i still become a recluse when im in w/d. i dont talk to anyone, i just want to be left alone.

the pain and lethargy suck, but i can get over that.

[firefeind]

today, i would have to say the sensation of electric eels writhing under my flesh. ask me again in a week and ill have a different answer.

[SHELLEY]

falling asleep for the first time in days and having a baby start screaming in your ear :mad:

[Angelwolf13]

as bad as the psychological and physical wds are with opiates (the cold sweats, lying down but can't stop shaking, depression, anxiety, and inevitable migraine) by far the worse wds i have ever had was years ago, the last time i ever shot up coke, in fact. after slamming an 8 (there were 3 of us) we went in search for more. the worst "hangover" i ever had hit me while i was jonesing in the back seat of the car. the only thing i remember was when we stopped the dealer's house, his gf climbed in the front to say they were dry. then she took one look at me and became alarmed. i don't remember her precise words but she was very concerned and told me to please take care, poor thing, and told the 2 guys i was with to watch me. as i was still a teenager, well, 19, i don't remember exactly what that felt like, just that it was the absolute worst feeling i had ever had in my whole short life! needless to say, that was the last time for me!

[Narkotikon]

1. Leg aches / RLS.

2. Anxiety--that panicky feeling of knowing what it takes to get better, and "needing" to get better, but you can't for whatever reason. Craving would also fall under this category.

3. Insomnia. I NEED SLEEP! I just do. And when I can't get a good night's sleep, I'm soooooo extremely irritable.

[mikey5string]

leg aches/RLS & apathy.

[I-Nod]

my worst is the restlessness though. the feeling that you have to constantly keep stretching, but it does nothing for you. also pretty sure that feeling is why they call it "kicking"

Same here, SteveO... you hit the nail on the head. What makes the restlessness worse is knowing how long until you can get well again, and having a clock in the room!! Every minute seems to crawl by at a wretchedly slowww pace. I end up wanting to pull my leg muscles out with my bare hands... it sucks goat nads.

[OxiContinKing]

1. Leg aches / RLS.

2. Anxiety--that panicky feeling of knowing what it takes to get better, and "needing" to get better, but you can't for whatever reason. Craving would also fall under this category.

3. Insomnia. I NEED SLEEP! I just do. And when I can't get a good night's sleep, I'm soooooo extremely irritable.


I'd say that sums it up for me pretty well.

I wonder if we were to go through and take a look at everyones avatar, what percentage would have that one the OP has? I can think of about 5 active members that have that avatar.

Classic.

[Suspiria]

the insomnia is also one of my worse but i normally get that due to the sweats and chills. like having to switchout sweat filled blankets and pillows every hour.

[insanesteveo]

Same here, SteveO... you hit the nail on the head. What makes the restlessness worse is knowing how long until you can get well again, and having a clock in the room!! Every minute seems to crawl by at a wretchedly slowww pace. I end up wanting to pull my leg muscles out with my bare hands... it sucks goat nads.


oh fuck, the slowing of time is horrible, i will sit and watch tv while hitting and rubbing my legs for the brief times they will stay still enough, and it seems like one show takes hours. a day seems like a week. this is one reason i can never seem to make it. the withdrawal seems to last WAY too long, and i never seem to start feeling better.

[DCBA]

Nausea and vomiting, those are the my hard ones, the one that i cant stand..

[Opiyum]

Volcanic seamen(surprisingly not a typo), ear sneezes and bubbly nose farts. That last one being my least favorite.

[goagirl23]

The restless legs....for me, that is absolutely the worst...

[insanesteveo]

Volcanic seamen(surprisingly not a typo), ear sneezes and bubbly nose farts. That last one being my least favorite.


somehow, i......dont.......think.......i..........know..... ...you.



how can you not love volcanic seamen after such a long time of not being able to cum at all?

[Chipper]

Fear, agitation, sweats and knowing that not only was it all my own doing - but also knowing that the cure is the cause.

[dharma bum]

Insomnia, hyper-realistic paranoia, anxiety. These three go together. And knowing if I can just get through these symptoms I'll have months of depression to look forward to...

[insanesteveo]

i hear everyone talking about the depression after getting clean. i have the exact opposite reaction. at least for a short while. ive never been clean more than a few weeks. but after the initial deathness passes its worst point, i feel reborn. i figure that opiates dull all your senses, and when i quit, all these senses come back, and i get happy and talkative again. working out helps MORE THAN ANY DRUG YOU CAN TAKE. ive woken up feeling dead and feeling like shit, then go for a simple brisk walk to get the heart pumping, and i get back and i have energy and become happy and talkative.

im hoping this time will be the time i stay clean for more than a few weeks, im at almost a week now, so we shall see what the long term will be. i just know that if i kick my own ass and get up to exercise, especially get your heart rate up and maybe sweat a little, i feel way better, and can catch a few hours of sleep.

im sure my depression will come back, but my plan is to smoke some pot now and again to combat that instead of getting addicted to opiates again. only time will tell.

[Angelwolf13]

...needless to say, that was the last time for me!

unable to edit, crap, i just remembered, no that wasn't the last time. (last time till my tracks healed maybe.) i got into it all over again, for a short time anyway, when i moved to the mainland the first time. early 20s i'm sure. but it was the worst wds i ever had. i don't remember why... speedballing after that? no clue, just unspeakable trauma. fucking memory.

[Papa Verine]

I've had those dreadful "hangovers" after coke binges. I remember one particular sunny Sunday morning... just feeling like complete shit from doing coke all night (and drinking)

And there was this one week-end that I rolled on X Friday, Sat and Sun. And on Monday morning I was driving to work crying. I just exhausted any and all good feelings my brain was capable of producing doing all that X. That really was my last time doing Exstacy. I felt so horribly depressed, like I was not capable of producing any natural good feelings.

Has anyone else experienced this after rolling for a few days?

[Angelwolf13]

I felt so horribly depressed, like I was not capable of producing any natural good feelings.

Has anyone else experienced this after rolling for a few days?

i have only done x a handful of times, but that is a very good description of the "hangover" feelings i got after a healthy binge of mainlining coke. never felt that bad after snorting the stuff, but that's probably because when i was young snorting coke, unlike slamming it, was a very social thing and there was always a whole host of other drugs that went along with it.

[Chipper]

... And there was this one week-end that I rolled on X Friday, Sat and Sun. And on Monday morning I was driving to work crying. I just exhausted any and all good feelings my brain was capable of producing doing all that X. That really was my last time doing Exstacy. I felt so horribly depressed, like I was not capable of producing any natural good feelings.

Has anyone else experienced this after rolling for a few days?

I have never rolled for a few days (what stamina you have!) but I have experienced "brain zaps" after a heavy session and pronounced depression afterwards. It's a price I'm prepared to pay, though ...

[SHELLEY]

x doesnt make me sad afterwards, but it does drain my fucking energy completely for a day or two
especially if i've also been doin coke

[Raz]

Cluckin in jail cold turkey...Da projectile vommiting ,outta both ends...No sleep for a fortnight, no strenght , no appetite,flick ma dick an shoota load 50 times a day...All da senses dat come floodin back, the stink of prison, rockin da bed all night...Stomach cramps,skin on fire one minute, fuckin freezin da next...

.Could go on an on, but da best ting was dat fuckin 1st visit after a few nights a hell...

[taj]

my arms and legs(although both much worse on the left side) going nuts, like my joints have been pulled out of socket and electric feeling and restlessness/twitching in giant ways. Also the searing pain coming flooding back after running out of the meds that keep it in check.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

thank god I haven't put myself in that position in quite a while

[chemiKalz]

crushing depression
anxiety
insomnia
RLS I FUCKING HATE

Chipper your handle is deceiving, sounds like you have a habit? Still a chipper?

[chinaski]

My other wost symptom is what i call the "creepy crawlies"; the feeling of wanting to crawl out of your skin. Your legs and arms feel rubbery and restless; its like tossing and turning 'cept you aren't asleep. I hate that.

I'm going through this big time right now. I'm good all day, taking Kratom and Wellbutrin (NOT at the same time) during the day for motivation, and xanax for anxiety.

At about 10pm I take an ambien and it knocks me out until about 2am. Then I wake up and my body just feels totally weird -- creepy crawly, I have to move all my limbs not to feel crazy. I can't sleep for hours due to this. I've had like three nights of this so far (kicking a 4 month pod party).

I've heard excercise can help. Someone on Bluelight said loperamide in higher doses can help, but I'm skeptical of that.

Are there any OTC remedies for this shit? It's really the only unbearable symptom I'm having at this point. Tried to UTFSE but I sucked at it. Help.

[Russellmeboy]

all the normal comfort meds, but i assume your kicking cause your broke?
cause a little piece of suboxone will make this beter. little peice like less then 4 mgs
insomnia for me...i hate not sleeping, plus when i wd i get right by taking sub or some coctail of pills so the sleeplessness comes no matter what i take....i hate it.

[hovadagod]

loperamide works.

[chinaski]

all the normal comfort meds, but i assume your kicking cause your broke?
cause a little piece of suboxone will make this beter.

Nope, just quitting because I realized I couldn't function without pod tea every day. And it wasn't even really getting me high anymore. I have access to plenty of opiates (in fact there's a box of 100 new pods in my basement!) but it's time to get my tolerance down.

I don't think I'd even take suboxone if I had access to it. Don't want to replace one addiction with another (even the kratom is probably a bad idea in that respect).

Overall it's not so terrible. No diarrhea, no leg pain, no cold sweats, lethargy isn't so bad. It's just this waking up in the middle of the night trying to crawl out of my skin. Guess I just have to power through it. Be careful with those pods, kids!

loperamide works.

Not for me. At least not at the dosage I took it. I had two the other night, still had RLS. Do you have to take a massive dose?

[Indy]

Nope, just quitting because I realized I couldn't function without pod tea every day. And it wasn't even really getting me high anymore. I have access to plenty of opiates (in fact there's a box of 100 new pods in my basement!) but it's time to get my tolerance down.

I don't think I'd even take suboxone if I had access to it. Don't want to replace one addiction with another (even the kratom is probably a bad idea in that respect).

Overall it's not so terrible. No diarrhea, no leg pain, no cold sweats, lethargy isn't so bad. It's just this waking up in the middle of the night trying to crawl out of my skin. Guess I just have to power through it. Be careful with those pods, kids!



Not for me. At least not at the dosage I took it. I had two the other night, still had RLS. Do you have to take a massive dose?

Try taking 10 of them to start with. That's your minimum dose IMO (20 mg loperamide). It's weird, but it does help. And no taking that many won't have any ill effects, it's the same as taking a big dose of opiates but it doesn't get to your brain (unfortunately)

[BlueMajick]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Narkotikon
1. Leg aches / RLS.

2. Anxiety--that panicky feeling of knowing what it takes to get better, and "needing" to get better, but you can't for whatever reason. Craving would also fall under this category.

3. Insomnia. I NEED SLEEP! I just do. And when I can't get a good night's sleep, I'm soooooo extremely irritable

I'd say that sums it up for me pretty well.

I wonder if we were to go through and take a look at everyones avatar, what percentage would have that one the OP has? I can think of about 5 active members that have that avatar.

Classic.



So I'd say all of these are pretty much the worse, but i'll elaborate a bit.

The first major symptom and the worse for the first 12 hrs or so is the freezing cold, but once that diminishes, it's the extreme soreness and pain in my feet and legs, especially if you have a job where you're on your feet the whole time, it's unbearable.

I kneed the muscles but this only seems to help while i'm actually massaging, but the second I stop, the pain comes back. If i had a pro. masseuse giving me a full body massage for all waking hours during WD it wouldn't be so bad, the human touch def. brings some natural happiness and hope, and the massaging the soreness would be amazing.

The other major symptom, is that along with the pain, there's also restlessness in the major muscle groups, especially my chest. It feels like there's a pressure on my chest, like i need to massage my chest constantly, or stretch, but constantly, just like i need to be moving. Exercise helps with this.

And yes for sure the complete lack of motivation/energy to do anything is horrible, especially when you're WDing because you're broke, and the only way to get well is to work, but the thought of picking yourself up off the couch and to your job while in that state is so horrible, that it takes all my will and strength to get dressed and in the car to head off to work.

As someone else said, regarding the depression that follows the physical WD, and how they don't get it. I too feel very happy, and born-again, very refreshed, like i'm experiencing all the beauty of the world, this is a great feeling, and i'm glad i'm finally off the drugs and done with WD. But this only last about 2 weeks to a month for me, then the boredom starts creeping up, and the depression as well, by 2 months the cravings are so intense that any time that my mind's not occupied with something else, i'm thinking about how i should go about getting more DOC. So this is a daily struggle at that point. I've not made it past 2 1/2 or 3 months each time i've been able to quit.

And about everyone having that avatar, and what percentage of people here have similar images, I can safely say that 0% of others have my avatar, since i took the photo myself. :)

[SHELLEY]

the no sleep thing is a son of a bitch
i still don't sleep after coming off done, but i am tired all day and night
and that makes me lazy, then i smoke weed
and get even lazier and more tired- but still can't sleep
it's super lame
i started drinking stacker drinks and "5 hr energy"
figured if im gonna be awake no matter what, i might as well be able to TCB

[Duckfeet]

That's a pretty accurate description of what happened to me, this last time...I was so happy, because I had *expected* more drawn out w/drawals, so when I began swimming in the cold pacific again, and finding myself content w/life, and a month went by, I figured it was safe to breath, and I posted on here about it...I never gloated or took if for granted, just thought that maybe I was going to be alright again, off drugs...

but somewhere around a month a and half, two months, I figured it might be safe to just do a few perks, and I saw a doc, and got 30 perks, and that threw me back into junky mode, and I couldn't even kick that chickenshit habit, so I got a ton of hydros, and couldn't kick them, so I got some heroin...and now, here I am again, trying to get off methadone--I'm at 14mg, w/all the V.A. docs and counselors telling me the same shit they told me 20 years ago: methadone was *made* for people like me....

But the sad truth is that *heroin* was made for people like me, and since I can't get legal heroin, I strive to get what I've also had twice in last 20 years: total and absolute abstinence...is this delusional? Sure, so is everything else in this world...

But this time I'm not optimistic like I was last time...maybe that's better, I don't know...

As far as w/drawal symptoms go, tho, only thing I know, is that they get *worse* w/experience, not better....the rest is just that they are a living hell until they are gone...and the whole 'PAWS' thing is just too cute and self-serving for me, as every time they invent a new acronym, a whole new crew of previously unemployed addicts "in recovery" get jobs as "drug counselors"...


So I'd say all of these are pretty much the worse, but i'll elaborate a bit.

The first major symptom and the worse for the first 12 hrs or so is the freezing cold, but once that diminishes, it's the extreme soreness and pain in my feet and legs, especially if you have a job where you're on your feet the whole time, it's unbearable.

I kneed the muscles but this only seems to help while i'm actually massaging, but the second I stop, the pain comes back. If i had a pro. masseuse giving me a full body massage for all waking hours during WD it wouldn't be so bad, the human touch def. brings some natural happiness and hope, and the massaging the soreness would be amazing.

The other major symptom, is that along with the pain, there's also restlessness in the major muscle groups, especially my chest. It feels like there's a pressure on my chest, like i need to massage my chest constantly, or stretch, but constantly, just like i need to be moving. Exercise helps with this.

And yes for sure the complete lack of motivation/energy to do anything is horrible, especially when you're WDing because you're broke, and the only way to get well is to work, but the thought of picking yourself up off the couch and to your job while in that state is so horrible, that it takes all my will and strength to get dressed and in the car to head off to work.

As someone else said, regarding the depression that follows the physical WD, and how they don't get it. I too feel very happy, and born-again, very refreshed, like i'm experiencing all the beauty of the world, this is a great feeling, and i'm glad i'm finally off the drugs and done with WD. But this only last about 2 weeks to a month for me, then the boredom starts creeping up, and the depression as well, by 2 months the cravings are so intense that any time that my mind's not occupied with something else, i'm thinking about how i should go about getting more DOC. So this is a daily struggle at that point. I've not made it past 2 1/2 or 3 months each time i've been able to quit.

And about everyone having that avatar, and what percentage of people here have similar images, I can safely say that 0% of others have my avatar, since i took the photo myself. :)

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Fear, agitation, sweats and knowing that not only was it all my own doing - but also knowing that the cure is the cause.
real talk

[MEKONE]

1)RLS like a mother fucker!!! Jumping around in bed,legs all over the place,PN in thighs.Even if I get a nap it wakes me up.
2)Hot and cold sweats and when I'm hot and put the fan/ac on the cold air just RIPS through my skin like needles.
3)Fucked up diarrhea/vomit

But the worst is the RLS to me,it hurts to even think about it.

[Raisin]

...and the whole 'PAWS' thing is just too cute and self-serving for me, as every time they invent a new acronym, a whole new crew of previously unemployed addicts "in recovery" get jobs as "drug counselors"...

I love opiates but sentences like this are why I love this place.

[Uncle Wiggly]

I think, think being the operative word, that I could deal with W/Ds except for the uncontrollable puking and shitting.

[longduckdong]

The depression. I can deal with all the physical symptoms. I can't stand the "gloom and doom" that goes on in my head.

Goddamn Papa, thats the exact same to me.... I can handle all the sick shit. It's the extreme depression I get.

[Restharrow]

Sweating. I can soak the bed like a bucket of water has been poured on it.

[PrisonHer]

wow. They all fucking suck..every last fucking part of it.

It's starts with a thought of impending doom. It's hard to describe *that* feeling. But it's the 1st sign of sickness that comes to me. I know I'm fucked and it's not gonna get better for at least 6 months. I would like to say that after all these years of using heroin I've got the *panic* of w/d under control. But I don't. Like duckfeet said..it only gets worse with experience. Soon after the *panic* sets in I get real fucky tired..I can't move and I'm yawning like a motherfucker. But I can't sleep. I toss and turn...until the skin on my elbows and knee's has been rubbed off like I fell on the side walk. Then I start sweating until I'm so wet that I'm cold. Then I'm cold and hot and cold and hot and cold and hot . Somewhere around that time I ask any God that *really* is a real God to kill me. I mean it too.

Alot of people get high blood pressure during withdrawals. Instead I get v.e.r.y. low blood pressure and have been hospitalized during withdrawal twice because my heart rate was 13 beats a minutes. That's no fucking joke. They wouldn't even give my clonodine because my blood pressure was already so low. It's most likely because I'm really dehydrated?? Anyways...

Right before the puking starts I get this weird feeling in my throat..like everytime I swallow it makes me cough...Then the puking and shitting and shitting and puking starts. It's mystery because I'm the kind of junky that NEVER eats..so what am I shitting and puking up? Weird thick yellow puke..and watery colorless shit. Once the shitting and puking has started..I can no longer stand up straight...like one of those 90 yr old lady's who has a hump on her back but still manages to push her grocery cart around the store.. If I do get the strength to walk..it's for very very short distances..like to the bathroom and back to my bed.

Usually I'm sick 9-12 days. Who the fuck ever said it only last 3 days???? Moron! Fuck you! After 9-12 days..I'm by no means well. I still can't sleep..I'm still sweating like crazy..and I start sneezing so much my muscles are sore.

Forget about having hope, or a smile, or happiness, or calmness, or any of that shit. It's not gonna happen. I don't care if I sound like a baby but getting off heroin /opiates fucking hurts! It lasts for months. Maybe the puking and sweating and leg craps stop..but the depression..the anxiety..the loss of hope..all that shit is bound to last months and months.

I couldn't say what the *worst* part of withdrawal is..but usually the reason why I'm sick..esp for that long is because I left town..or went to jail..or in a place where getting opiates is NOT possible..so the worst part is knowing that one shot could make me *well* again..but that one shot isn't coming..I can't get it. that's the worst part.

Sorry to go off but I really hate when people say that shit only last 3 days. On day 3 that shits just *really* starting to kick your ass.

[Duckfeet]

The thing I've really always hated the most, is this huge overwhelming need to "take a nap" right before I kick, and I fall heavily asleep for an hour or so, and wake up in hell, so even tho I"m telling myself "it won't be so bad" as soon as that sleepy feeling comes over me, around 12hrs after last fix, I know I"m fucked...and as so many have said, it's not the physical, it's the mental, which makes the physical seem so horrible. That is why the fucking docs and nurses and counselors now say they just "treat the symptoms" which translates into "anything but opiates" and none of it works...

[HydroApe]

DEPRESSION!

[okie dokie]

my worst symptom is the way i treat other people when i am sick. i am a complete ass to EVERYONE, i treat them like it is THEIR fault that i am dope sick. i can be such an ass!! i hate me!!

[Angelwolf13]

"abject misery" is the best way i can think of to sum it up. and, to be honest, it is one of the very few things on this planet which i actually contemplate with trepidation. i can keep a cool head through pretty much any "disaster" that happens to come my way (except for that fucking narcissist of a bf acting out one of his all too common psychotic episodes i eternally dread... but, i digress). if there is even the slightest danger of my line being cut i start to panic. it's not just the wds... it's everything. life, if you can call it that, abruptly halts to a standstill. i abhor that fucking feeling of helplessness. we've all been down that road. the physical wds might even be a slight diversion. very slight.

it's so weird... if i am absolutely certain my savior is on the way, it's just not here yet, the wds, as fucked up as they are, aren't near as bad as not knowing where my next meal is coming from or, to a lesser extent, the realization that, for whatever reason, eating is, or will become a distinct impossibility for an extended period of time. on second thought, not knowing is FAR worse.

be that as it may, my heart goes out to ZK and all the other unfortunate victims languishing in CT as a result of this pointless war on their, and our, personal freedoms! i am still, and will remain dangerously livid as long as these insidious atrocities are forced upon us! whether we happen to be lucky in life or not, this type of abomination affects us all! and if the life of any one of our elite race of stoners, junkies, and freaks (RIP layne) suffers ruin as a direct result of this, we all feel it. there is no rhyme or reason. it is the luck of the damned draw. i am seething! but, again, i digress.

ok, withdrawls SUCK! (still the bf is a close 2nd)

[resorcinol]

Since the mental is so much worse (not even in the same league as the physical), I'll divide them.

Physical:
I can tolerate: flu-like symptoms, muscle / joint / mild bone pain, extra sweating (provided I can have access to a shower and lots of clean clothes to change more often)

Can't tolerate: chills, hot and cold fluctuations, severe weakness

Psychological:
Can tolerate: none of it -- well, MAYBE I manage the depression and jonesing with reasonable capability

Can't tolerate: Extreme indescribably intense (to those who don't know) anxiety and panic, akathisia (whole body RLS), disorientation, clouded thinking, cognitive exhaustion

[Madam Oxy]

I hate that it feels like I have a runny/snotty nose and sniffle all the time. I mean, literally one sniffle after sniffle. It sounds horrible. I've had younger co-workers ask me if I was okay because I was sniffle-ing so much.

And then what I hate even MORE is that I go and blow my nose and.....nothing. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
ARRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!


what a pisser!

[Angelwolf13]

i agree, psychological is much worse than physical for me too.

"living hell" is another good description.

[Tea Time]

For me, without a doubt, it is the horrible insomnia and the Restless Leg Syndrome. The RLS actually makes the insomnia worse. If I didn't have either of these symptoms, WD's would be a piece of cake! :D

[Badly Drawn Girl]

The muscle spasms and burning sensation I get in my limbs. It keeps me awake and I feel like I'm being hit by a jolt of electricity over and over again. The other symptoms suck, but they aren't any worse than having a flu. It's the constant need to stretch my arms and legs over and over and over again, that makes me crazy.

[Spaazkaz]

The depression. I can deal with all the physical symptoms. I can't stand the "gloom and doom" that goes on in my head.

i have to also say the chills/sweats. lately ive just had mild w/d so its just chills, but so annoying having a long sleeve t and a sweatshirt on in an 80 degree room and being cold.

my worst is the restlessness though. the feeling that you have to constantly keep stretching, but it does nothing for you. also pretty sure that feeling is why they call it "kicking"

im used to the depression, but i still become a recluse when im in w/d. i dont talk to anyone, i just want to be left alone.

the pain and lethargy suck, but i can get over that.

1. I get the kicks real bad, cant stop kicking or moving my legs, I guess that's what RLS is?
2. depression - nuff said

I couldn't even finish this thread... started to twitch realizing how accurate these descriptions were. Gonna have to go read some "how does H feel?" threads to counter these feelings. The combination of mental and physical pain is unlike anything; its like they synergize in a bad bad way. One or the other wouldn't be half as bad. Like getting stomped out by your wife, after catching her cheating. -spaz-

[wisegal]

Most Def. the insomnia!! There is just NO WAY for me to get out of work and when i dont get sleep it is almost impossible for me to do my job! I cannot function without at the v. minimum 6 hrs. of sleep :(

[Morfiend]

I'd have to say the mental fogginess/inability to retain information/intense headache.

Although the RLS is really terrible and I'm constantly tensing all my muscles up in a vain attempt to combat it, I think the worst part for me is the fever-like disorientation and loss of concentration. I become depressed because I can not read and learn and be productive in this state.

[Duckfeet]

Knowing what's coming...