robojunkie
03-17-2009, 08:42 PM
So I wonder sometimes with my viewpoints, that drug prohibition is essentially a subjective crime against humanity (come on older junkies, how many have you known that are no longer with you that could clearly have been avoided in a free society?), and for those of you who believe it is, and you could do something about it (not stupid like blowing up the dea building or retarded shit that would only hurt the cause) how far would you go, assuming you had the particular circumstances that could potentially make a difference?
Risk losing a few connections and go straight/activist?
Risk fighting a charge and facing decades vs pleaing out (no shame there, just asking thepoint)?
Risk everything with the knowledge that one could actually generate masssive publicity and stand a decent chance of beating publicly the US DOJ?
Do the above by sabotaging oneself such that one could say just for simplicity one had a 50/50 shot of beating them in open court?
In other words, like human rights abuses and persecutions, be they racial/religious/economic/cultural/etc, most just said "it'll never change, it's just the way it is", but there have always been the few who stumbled into an opportunity (shit like Rosa Parks, that sorta thing, but with far greater risk) that can be turned into a sorta catalyst for a change in society's view of something so ingrained yet so ridiculous and unfair (that example being blacks having to sit at the back of the bus/give up seat to a white). What if you had a story, a story that even the tabloids however Ruppert Murdock like couldn't make much true demonization of, one that legal circumstances, though risky, were such that there is probably (said person would certainly speak with counsel, I mean like November Coalition type, not plea out type) a more than reasonable chance that charges that would be framed up for century sentences could be beat, would ya do it?
Or do ya just think it's all about gettin' high and runnin scams? Is that all we are? No, its the laws, the black market, the analogy to constant starvation and the subsequent inability to ever develop any meaningful life goals because of it (in addition to being criminalized because of it), then being cast out and stereotyped by society with all the ones we all know already.
Honestly, does anyone think in America without some kind of highly publicized driving force, and someone who won't compromise, vis a vis forcing the issue with publicity making people actually think about it as they respond to the emotion of the story (believe me when its written you'lll get why I speak this way), because emotion is the only thing that really moves the masses, for good or evil, to change their opinions. That without someone that becomes a "symbol", sort of an "American Tragedy", that the drug laws, especially regarding opiates will change in a decade? or 50 years? or 100 years?
Would you risk everything if you thought you make a major or even minor but significant difference in this? Like truly "Open the Debate" amongsth the federal politician (yeah maybe I'm dreaming their, but anti drug zealots "Closed the Debate" early in the Reagan era, so...
Society's disgust for junkies is like any other intolerance, and the metaphor that come to mind is that of Eli Weisel (correct me if I'm wrong on the name), "All Intolerance Leads to the Ovens" (and please I am not making that rash of a comparison between our situation and Nazi Germany, only the principle that intolerance dehumanizes both the intolerant and those not tolerated or seen as human vermin, unworthy of sympathy, freedom, choice or even sometimes the right to exist.
Would you do it? If you were clean, ethically that is, as in no profiteering, pimping, violence and all risk was taken upon oneself and continues to be? I'm sorry to be so general but the whole story is literally a fucking book and I've thought about writing it as a fictional thread so that people not in the know would get it but like I said it would be a book not a thread.
What if you were the clean one, the famous institution were the cowards who corrupted themselves, had associations to an award system that every last one of you has heard of, you were the one who ran essentially what evolved into a rag tag mini-American NAOMI program, call it a "Free Underground Fentanyl Clinic", or some better acronyn, NAOMI does sound cool! (but with safely standardized fentanyl solutions, done in a way that no one ever died, where some involved have said they'd likely be dead had this never been, and I'm sure some demographic statistician could show this probabitlity)?
Would you risk it? Do you consider the right to have sovereignty over your very neurochemistry, your own mind, the most intimate and personal thing we all have, one worth saying "Don't Tread On Me!" and risking it all? After all millions of soldiers have, and often not even with certainty as to what they were risking it all for, beyond abstractions like God and Country, and they had families too and this is the hardest fucking part of the choice, not the risk to the person, when there is a choice.
Would you do it if you knew you had the personality type where you speak best the bigger the audience and can be very persuasive in a strong yet pacifist-like way?
Don't our lives matter enough to risk this? They call it a war on drugs, clearly of course it is a persecution of drug users, where they can destroy our careers, reputations, take our families and homes, even shoot us in the streets (how often is a cop ever convicted for wrongfully shooting a drug user, hell it wasn't that long ago they could kill minorities with impugnity), be sent to "reeducation camps", prevented from obtaining education funding, basically being turned into indentured servants or simply broken from the years of pain and loss.
But what if you were the type whose worst fear is withdrawal (you know my reasons there), so much so that all other pain other than the death of loved ones, is such that one could face the risk and hold it together?
Would you "blow it up" or "fade away"? You know my answer I'm just curious how others view this, whether you believe it even a reasonable analysis of american culture (underdog syndrome, one who willingly steps into the fire, that sorta thing),
Would you do it if you truly believed that it was your destiny to try and end the war on drugs, that every time you attempt to avoid it there is only depression and ennui, yet when you imagine the "battle" in courts and media and debates and so forth, all shit I love the idea of the "peaceful fight", you then only feel alive? (And by destiny I don't mean predetermined outcomes or lack of free will, only that the Universe or God or DNA and the era one lives in fits one's makeup combined with a set of circumstances so unlikely in combination that I've told people the odds of me sitting here free and unencumbered are like all the protons in the universe to one if ya said all what has happenned happenned a few years ago that one truly feels alive, even without opiates and when alone) and that you believe, however minute, there is a chance the story if told with the proper perspective and the "haters" and tabloids countered by groups that would likely grab onto to the story as a counter, that you could change the system?
Would you risk it all? Is that not what a freedom fighter is? I'd rather die with my boots on than live on my knees. I still have options, but every day they inexorably lead to certain choices...
Or do ya just think I'm fucking crazy?
Risk losing a few connections and go straight/activist?
Risk fighting a charge and facing decades vs pleaing out (no shame there, just asking thepoint)?
Risk everything with the knowledge that one could actually generate masssive publicity and stand a decent chance of beating publicly the US DOJ?
Do the above by sabotaging oneself such that one could say just for simplicity one had a 50/50 shot of beating them in open court?
In other words, like human rights abuses and persecutions, be they racial/religious/economic/cultural/etc, most just said "it'll never change, it's just the way it is", but there have always been the few who stumbled into an opportunity (shit like Rosa Parks, that sorta thing, but with far greater risk) that can be turned into a sorta catalyst for a change in society's view of something so ingrained yet so ridiculous and unfair (that example being blacks having to sit at the back of the bus/give up seat to a white). What if you had a story, a story that even the tabloids however Ruppert Murdock like couldn't make much true demonization of, one that legal circumstances, though risky, were such that there is probably (said person would certainly speak with counsel, I mean like November Coalition type, not plea out type) a more than reasonable chance that charges that would be framed up for century sentences could be beat, would ya do it?
Or do ya just think it's all about gettin' high and runnin scams? Is that all we are? No, its the laws, the black market, the analogy to constant starvation and the subsequent inability to ever develop any meaningful life goals because of it (in addition to being criminalized because of it), then being cast out and stereotyped by society with all the ones we all know already.
Honestly, does anyone think in America without some kind of highly publicized driving force, and someone who won't compromise, vis a vis forcing the issue with publicity making people actually think about it as they respond to the emotion of the story (believe me when its written you'lll get why I speak this way), because emotion is the only thing that really moves the masses, for good or evil, to change their opinions. That without someone that becomes a "symbol", sort of an "American Tragedy", that the drug laws, especially regarding opiates will change in a decade? or 50 years? or 100 years?
Would you risk everything if you thought you make a major or even minor but significant difference in this? Like truly "Open the Debate" amongsth the federal politician (yeah maybe I'm dreaming their, but anti drug zealots "Closed the Debate" early in the Reagan era, so...
Society's disgust for junkies is like any other intolerance, and the metaphor that come to mind is that of Eli Weisel (correct me if I'm wrong on the name), "All Intolerance Leads to the Ovens" (and please I am not making that rash of a comparison between our situation and Nazi Germany, only the principle that intolerance dehumanizes both the intolerant and those not tolerated or seen as human vermin, unworthy of sympathy, freedom, choice or even sometimes the right to exist.
Would you do it? If you were clean, ethically that is, as in no profiteering, pimping, violence and all risk was taken upon oneself and continues to be? I'm sorry to be so general but the whole story is literally a fucking book and I've thought about writing it as a fictional thread so that people not in the know would get it but like I said it would be a book not a thread.
What if you were the clean one, the famous institution were the cowards who corrupted themselves, had associations to an award system that every last one of you has heard of, you were the one who ran essentially what evolved into a rag tag mini-American NAOMI program, call it a "Free Underground Fentanyl Clinic", or some better acronyn, NAOMI does sound cool! (but with safely standardized fentanyl solutions, done in a way that no one ever died, where some involved have said they'd likely be dead had this never been, and I'm sure some demographic statistician could show this probabitlity)?
Would you risk it? Do you consider the right to have sovereignty over your very neurochemistry, your own mind, the most intimate and personal thing we all have, one worth saying "Don't Tread On Me!" and risking it all? After all millions of soldiers have, and often not even with certainty as to what they were risking it all for, beyond abstractions like God and Country, and they had families too and this is the hardest fucking part of the choice, not the risk to the person, when there is a choice.
Would you do it if you knew you had the personality type where you speak best the bigger the audience and can be very persuasive in a strong yet pacifist-like way?
Don't our lives matter enough to risk this? They call it a war on drugs, clearly of course it is a persecution of drug users, where they can destroy our careers, reputations, take our families and homes, even shoot us in the streets (how often is a cop ever convicted for wrongfully shooting a drug user, hell it wasn't that long ago they could kill minorities with impugnity), be sent to "reeducation camps", prevented from obtaining education funding, basically being turned into indentured servants or simply broken from the years of pain and loss.
But what if you were the type whose worst fear is withdrawal (you know my reasons there), so much so that all other pain other than the death of loved ones, is such that one could face the risk and hold it together?
Would you "blow it up" or "fade away"? You know my answer I'm just curious how others view this, whether you believe it even a reasonable analysis of american culture (underdog syndrome, one who willingly steps into the fire, that sorta thing),
Would you do it if you truly believed that it was your destiny to try and end the war on drugs, that every time you attempt to avoid it there is only depression and ennui, yet when you imagine the "battle" in courts and media and debates and so forth, all shit I love the idea of the "peaceful fight", you then only feel alive? (And by destiny I don't mean predetermined outcomes or lack of free will, only that the Universe or God or DNA and the era one lives in fits one's makeup combined with a set of circumstances so unlikely in combination that I've told people the odds of me sitting here free and unencumbered are like all the protons in the universe to one if ya said all what has happenned happenned a few years ago that one truly feels alive, even without opiates and when alone) and that you believe, however minute, there is a chance the story if told with the proper perspective and the "haters" and tabloids countered by groups that would likely grab onto to the story as a counter, that you could change the system?
Would you risk it all? Is that not what a freedom fighter is? I'd rather die with my boots on than live on my knees. I still have options, but every day they inexorably lead to certain choices...
Or do ya just think I'm fucking crazy?