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oxyjon
03-16-2009, 02:52 PM
I dont know what it is. She used to be so happy. When I would be down about money or problems, she would always find the bright side and make me feel better. The past week, the littlest thing and she'll cry threaten suicide, she's telling her mother on the phone right now she thinks I dont love her anymore. I dont know what to do. We have plenty of opiates so it aint withdraws. Shes been on some birth control pills to regulate her period for the past week, I think it might be that. She told the doctor she takes roxis for recreation in case their would be an interaction between the two drugs. I dont want to baker act her, I think its more of a cry for help. She thinks xanax is the answer, but they make her crazy. Shes been on them for the past 3 days but not today. Is this some kind of benzo withdraw? I dont want her to take xanax ever again, I hate those pills. I called the doctor prescribing birth control left message, no reply. The soonest pshcyiatric appt. I can get her is April. Shes depressing me. I will be financially better if we split up. Happier too. But she says if we did, shed kill herself for sure. I dont need this. Its like shes a burden on me. My misery is her happiness. When we got together I had thousnds$ saved from working, I havent been able to save a dime since. I know I can do better in life. I dont know if its because shes 22 and Im 26 or what. But I can live with or without her, and sometimes not with as much. Its like her depression (for no reason) is depressing me. I just dont know what to do. My close friends say give it a break and see what happens. I know she wont kill herself, but it hurts to hear that. Any advice? Btw, she called off work over this shit. I never miss work. No work= no money= no necessities. I feel hopeless and stuck.

EleusisII
03-16-2009, 02:57 PM
WTF is going on here tonight?!?! Drama night?!?

People who cmmit suicide hardy ever let the whole world know about it beforehand, so this is either just a really fucked up way of getting attention, or more likely: A cry for help.

Birthcontrol pills can OCCASIONALLY have dramatic sideeffects with moodswings. So can Xanax, but hardly after three days.
I really don't see the Roxis involved in this either, but the most important thing is to get her to a doctor. If not anything else, than a psychiatric emergency room of sorts.

nick
03-16-2009, 03:03 PM
I believe your wife is a member here and posted recently about wanting/needing a new drug combination.She obviously hasn't found it.So,maybe spend your time helping her rather than bitching and telling us you'd be better off without her.

You maybe better off without her,but it's basic human decency to help people in need-married to them or not.

EleusisII
03-16-2009, 03:12 PM
^^^^
Yeah, just read her post. Christ, the woman is depressed, has anxiety and can't sleep, and on top of that she has to deal with a husband who complains that her depression "depresses him"

Remember the for better or for worse thing at the marriage? This is a case of the latter, so get her some psychiatric help.

And for the love of god, don't sund like a heartless bastard ON A SITE SHE READS TOO!
Jesus...

WhyCatsPaint
03-16-2009, 03:13 PM
I have no idea what is about some Bezo's but some of then can really cause people to get very angry really fast. I saw it happen with Valium when my husband took it it was like a light switch and he made that threat to me. I did not hesitate to call he spent 24 hours in the hospital they released him all of the Valium was removed from my house. He has never touched it since and he has not made any other threats.


If you think she is serious which obviously you do because you posted on here call the police station and have her taken to the hospital so they can watch her and the Xanax can get out of her system. She will also have a talk with a physiologist and from there they can determine if she needs help from heron or if it was cause by the medication.

oxyjon
03-16-2009, 03:14 PM
Im sorry guys (Nick) about the bitching. Yeah she is a member too. Im just at the end of my ropes. I know its a cry for help. She needs antidepressants and wants benzos. I jusst found out she has tken xanax today so it aint withdraw from that. I mean 300mgs of oxy makes me happy. And used to do the same to her, but not anymore. I care for her so much, but lately she treats me like shit. Im sorry if you guys feel like I wasted a thread, but I really wanted some good advice. And felt like the more I describe how I felt the better the advice. I just dont know. I guess tommorow, if shes not better, hospital it is. I just dont want her to withdraw from opies while getting help for her head. And the soonest she can see a shrink is April, what the fuck?

Poppylvr
03-16-2009, 03:14 PM
I dont know what it is. She used to be so happy. When I would be down about money or problems, she would always find the bright side and make me feel better. The past week, the littlest thing and she'll cry threaten suicide, she's telling her mother on the phone right now she thinks I dont love her anymore. I dont know what to do. We have plenty of opiates so it aint withdraws. Shes been on some birth control pills to regulate her period for the past week, I think it might be that. She told the doctor she takes roxis for recreation in case their would be an interaction between the two drugs. I dont want to baker act her, I think its more of a cry for help. She thinks xanax is the answer, but they make her crazy. Shes been on them for the past 3 days but not today. Is this some kind of benzo withdraw? I dont want her to take xanax ever again, I hate those pills. I called the doctor prescribing birth control left message, no reply. The soonest pshcyiatric appt. I can get her is April. Shes depressing me. I will be financially better if we split up. Happier too. But she says if we did, shed kill herself for sure. I dont need this. Its like shes a burden on me. My misery is her happiness. When we got together I had thousnds$ saved from working, I havent been able to save a dime since. I know I can do better in life. I dont know if its because shes 22 and Im 26 or what. But I can live with or without her, and sometimes not with as much. Its like her depression (for no reason) is depressing me. I just dont know what to do. My close friends say give it a break and see what happens. I know she wont kill herself, but it hurts to hear that. Any advice? Btw, she called off work over this shit. I never miss work. No work= no money= no necessities. I feel hopeless and stuck.

Take her to the Emergency Room NOW. They are obliged to assess her for true suicidal intent. They can hook her up with an emergency psych appointment if she is not admitted.
And gather up ALL the drugs you can find & lock them in a box to which she does not have a key. You can tell her this message, too: XANAX is a terrible dug for depressed people, it makes them more likely to hurt or kill themselves.
Good Luck.

pizzaboy
03-16-2009, 03:16 PM
I'd have to agree with Nick here...if there is a problem perhaps you should attend to it. We're just a bunch of junkies, we can't help you.

I'd also agree that it sounds like a cry for help. All my wives have threatened suicide at one time or another, I have some experience with it...take it seriously but don't walk around in fear.

....after reading poppylvr's post I feel obliged to mention that from what I've heard xanax is nothing to mess around with.

nick
03-16-2009, 03:23 PM
Im sorry guys (Nick) about the bitching. Yeah she is a member too. Im just at the end of my ropes. I know its a cry for help. She needs antidepressants and wants benzos. I jusst found out she has tken xanax today so it aint withdraw from that. I mean 300mgs of oxy makes me happy. And used to do the same to her, but not anymore. I care for her so much, but lately she treats me like shit. Im sorry if you guys feel like I wasted a thread, but I really wanted some good advice. And felt like the more I describe how I felt the better the advice. I just dont know. I guess tommorow, if shes not better, hospital it is. I just dont want her to withdraw from opies while getting help for her head. And the soonest she can see a shrink is April, what the fuck?

No problem and you're not wasting a thread,but to be honest other than support you both there's not much we can do.If in any doubt,do exactly what Poppy says.Hell,it 'd be worth doing for rapid access to treatment anyway.

Much luck with it man.

oxyjon
03-16-2009, 03:23 PM
Thanks everyone. Im not worried about her reading this. She just stays in bed and crys lately. She doesnt get on here but once every couple months anyway. And she doesnt know how to get around the site without me. I know she wont kill herself. But this is taking a toll on me to watch her go through this. Btw, She can sleep fine, she is depressed but uses it as an excuse to do xanax, not the answer. Like I said hospital tommorow if no change. And tommorows refill day I mean damn, Im excited.WTF?

Restharrow
03-16-2009, 03:31 PM
I know I am new here, but I got to say that posting this in a web group that she is a member of seems like a bad idea.

U guys need to see a marriage / family counselor if I understood your post that you feel u are better off w/o her. It would have to be less hurtful for you to express this in a "counseling /therapy" setting than in a group like this.

I have been thru some "family counseling" sessions with the wife and they will let each party make it as dramatic or low key as u guys want it to be.

Good luck!
Will

oxyjon
03-16-2009, 03:41 PM
Well, to tell you guys the truth, we are not legally married. But to us we are, you know what I mean? But she wont read this. I just need some good advice. I know noone here knows me well enough to tell me what to do. Just wanted some more ideas on it. Because Im racking my brain trying to come up with the answer. I tell her if she takes more xanax that she'll lose me. She takes it anyway and gets all fucked up. All I was saying is that this is my house, I pay the bills etc... She mkes not even a third of what I make as far as money. I love her to death though. I just miss the happy Eva, that I fell in love with. Shes only been like this 3-4 days. Can ortho trycyclene lo do this? I cant get a hold of her doctor.

JonnyMohawk
03-16-2009, 03:46 PM
Well, to tell you guys the truth, we are not legally married. But to us we are, you know what I mean? But she wont read this. I just need some good advice. I know noone here knows me well enough to tell me what to do. Just wanted some more ideas on it. Because Im racking my brain trying to come up with the answer. I tell her if she takes more xanax that she'll lose me. She takes it anyway and gets all fucked up. All I was saying is that this is my house, I pay the bills etc... She mkes not even a third of what I make as far as money. I love her to death though. I just miss the happy Eva, that I fell in love with. Shes only been like this 3-4 days. Can ortho trycyclene lo do this? I cant get a hold of her doctor.

My girlfriend was really depressed a couple weeks back, had zero sex drive, etc. and when I said something and she stopped taking her birth control, everything got better.

WhyCatsPaint
03-16-2009, 03:52 PM
Yes birth control can also cause women to cry and get emotional as well. Is there a possibility of her switching to a different birth control?

bronyraur
03-16-2009, 04:00 PM
Well, to tell you guys the truth, we are not legally married. But to us we are, you know what I mean? But she wont read this. I just need some good advice. I know noone here knows me well enough to tell me what to do. Just wanted some more ideas on it. Because Im racking my brain trying to come up with the answer. I tell her if she takes more xanax that she'll lose me. She takes it anyway and gets all fucked up. All I was saying is that this is my house, I pay the bills etc... She mkes not even a third of what I make as far as money. I love her to death though. I just miss the happy Eva, that I fell in love with. Shes only been like this 3-4 days. Can ortho trycyclene lo do this? I cant get a hold of her doctor.

I can only imagine how stressed out you are–you love her, but this kind of behavior stresses a relationship to its max.

I'd honestly take her to the ER–aside from hopefully getting her some treatment, it will hopefully drive home the point that you DO care about her, and that enough is enough–she's got to get herself together, or you'll have to do what's best for you (and that might be leaving her for a while).

Hang in there man.

Oh yeah, make sure to check out the suicide hotlines/websites: HERE (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=19896) (from the thread in the General forum–lots of good info for folks in a bad spot).

EleusisII
03-16-2009, 04:19 PM
Shes only been like this 3-4 days. Can ortho trycyclene lo do this? I cant get a hold of her doctor.

Since I doubt you're having a whole lotta sex right now, try to skip them.
As i wrote earlier (And srry if I was too hard on you), sometimes birthcontrol pills can wreck havoc with a womans hormones, leading to drastic sideeffects.

Don't worry too much about getting ahold of your doctor. If she suffers from something major, the best thing he can do for her anyways, is to refer her to a psychiatrist.

Take her to an ER or a psychiatric ER. They should be able to tell if this is something acute (Like sideeffects to the BC pills) or something more serious that might require a psychiatrist.

In any case, your wife posts said that she suffered from anxiety, so maybe this has been a long time coming. If the xanax really helps her, let her take some until a psych eval can be done.

And find someone to talk to about it too, K?

blenderqueen
03-16-2009, 04:28 PM
yes the pill can make women emotional. ( I used to say & i firmly believe that it made me a psycho hose beast!!!!!!!) I actually think it was that same kind as well. I did better after they switched me to one without so much progesterone in it. (I think that is what it was....been a decade ago now). but yeah it def messed up my head & emotions & if she's just recently started taking it , it certainly seems it could be the culprit if it's out of character for her. Is she open to stopping taking it until she can talk to the dr? I mean she may spot or get a period but that's certainly better than the awful side effects you are describing.

I have to say I find it kind of odd she would fess to the dr. she takes roxi's for recreational use but isn't worried about how the xannies are affecting her? are they legit scripted?

keep the shrink appt. until you decide whether or not you are going to take her to the ER or Crisis intervention for help. You can also ask them to put you a cancellation list in case a sooner appt opens up.

my heart goes out to both of you. I know it has an effect not only on her but you as well & you do need to take care of yourself in order to help her. (kind of like putting the oxygen mask on yourself first so you can save your kid) if that makes sense?

sorry don't have any better advice, but you are in my thoughts. both of you!

Hugs,
BQ

chopstix
03-16-2009, 04:52 PM
Progestin can fuck women up - zero to psycho in 4mg flat - I'd bet money she's having a bad reaction to the pill.. That shit is bad news in a lot of cases..

Edit: Ortho Tri-Cyclin isn't Progesterone but still, that'd be my first suspect, especially if it's a new drug for her..

oxyjon
03-16-2009, 05:01 PM
Thanks everyone for the replys. Im going to "conviently" misplace the birth control, see if that helps. She still wants to take them to regulate herself. I think she needs a different kind. She told the doctor about her recreational roxi use because she's just so honest. She's really a sweetheart, that's why I love her. After my doc visit 2mmorow I'll give her some blues to put in her sock and take her to the hospistal if she aint bettter by then.

EleusisII
03-16-2009, 05:06 PM
Just tell her to try to go without for a couple of days, and see if it helps.
I don't think either of you are in a place where you should play games like misplacing pills. Know what I mean?

nick
03-16-2009, 05:18 PM
Just tell her to try to go without for a couple of days, and see if it helps.
I don't think either of you are in a place where you should play games like misplacing pills. Know what I mean?

Agreed,in these circumstances try and be as honest as possible.


But,even if she stops taking the hormones you're gonna need to get some kinda help for her.Hopefully kindness and an absence of birth control pills will make life bearable enough to wait for her appointment rather than going to the er,but keep a close eye on the situation and if in any doubt go to the er.

and as others have pointed out,take care of yourself as well.

oxyjon
03-16-2009, 05:44 PM
Well, her brother came over to smoke some weed and talk to her. Everythings cool, were all stoned and shit. 30 mins later she yells at me "when the fuck you gonna take me to eat". I say as soon as your brother leaves, I dont want to be rude. She flips out cursing, yelling I kill myself so you can collect the 10000$ life insurance. She says the meanest shit to me and mkes me break down and cry in front of her brother. He tells me "damn man I couldn't put up with that shit" I am going through hell with her. I worked hard today and now I have to slave to this situation (kissing ass, errands) all the bad remarks she comments every minute. FUCK!!!! I guess I should of put this in the piss and moan. Im sorry guys but, Im goimg through hell.

WhyCatsPaint
03-16-2009, 05:49 PM
she needs help.....! End of story.

Please take care of yourself.... Verbal abuse is still abuse she needs to know this but right now she needs more then just that. And you need some time away from her aswell.

oxyjon
03-16-2009, 05:57 PM
she needs help.....! End of story.

Please take care of yourself.... Verbal abuse is still abuse she needs to know this but right now she needs more then just that. And you need some time away from her aswell.

Thankyou, good advice. I've been physically abused in the past, and this hurts just as bad.
Well on the upside of my life, I just got a phone call that relieved me a little. "Good evening this message is for blah. You have an appt with blah pain clinic on Tuesday March 17th at blah. It was a recording. At first I was like wtf because they've never done this in the past 9 months. Ummm sweet relief, for me at least.

Poppylvr
03-16-2009, 06:07 PM
. Im going to "conviently" misplace the birth control, see if that helps. She still wants to take them to regulate herself.
HOly Fucking Shit - You wanna add a pregnancy to this mess?

VERY BAD IDEA.

nick
03-16-2009, 06:19 PM
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HOly Fucking Shit - You wanna add a pregnancy to this mess?

VERY BAD IDEA.

Ummm Poppy,I believe you have to have unprotected sex and stop taking the pill to get pregnant or so my Mum tells me.In the circumstances stopping taking the pill till you can try another prescription and IF you have sex use another form of protection is a good idea.

BUT it's a bad idea not to be as straight as possible with some one that's been suffering from stress,anxiety and insomnia for some time and is now depressed.So encourage her to stop taking the pill and explain why.

oxyjon
03-16-2009, 06:21 PM
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HOly Fucking Shit - You wanna add a pregnancy to this mess?

VERY BAD IDEA.


No No. We've had unprotected sex for 2 and a half years, after getting tested. And she cant get pregnant. One of us is sterile. The way Im getting treated sex is out of the question anyway. She's being nicer now. The anger comes in spurts, shes being a sweetheart, like nothing even happened. Fucking hormones!

Poppylvr
03-16-2009, 06:25 PM
No No. We've had unprotected sex for 2 and a half years, after getting tested. And she cant get pregnant. One of us is sterile. The way Im getting treated sex is out of the question anyway. She's being nicer now. The anger comes in spurts, shes being a sweetheart, like nothing even happened. Fucking hormones!
Whew! I hope that the hormones are the problem because that is easily fixed. I know my daughter had to try about 15 different pills until she found one that didn't give her a hard time.
Good luck with that

OxiContinKing
03-16-2009, 07:05 PM
Dude go crawl in bed with her, tell her that you love her, because you do, and tell her that whatever is wrong with her, whatever is going on inside of her head, you guys will figure out and fix it, because you love her, and thats what couples do when they are in love. they fix shit when it goes wrong. I did that shit for 7 years dude, you might think that you dont want her, and maybe you dont, but if you do, or you think you do, get the fuck in there, and be there for her...otherwise, when you get teh chance, or realize that you do need her, and do want her, it might be to late dude...

I am in absolutley no position to be giving anyone advice right now.

/mute

taj
03-16-2009, 07:45 PM
call a crisis line...there should be one listed in the phonebook...try to call a local (your state or area) one..

.in my state they have a crisis stabilization unit that is really great.. It's NOT the hospital, they have a worker or two around the clock to be there and the doc. comes everyday. The one I went to is a small house w/ two bedrooms, a living room and kitchen plus a room/office for staff, it was great. It sometimes is used as transition for someone who is just released from the psych hospital or as a place for someone that needs psychiatric help, but not a full hospitalization. It is in the same system as the local mental health clinic.

This may be a good place for your girl to go to so she can get immediate help and step away from her life situation, but without having to do a full hospitalization. I don't know where you live, but maybe there is something similar in your area.

Good luck and hope everything works out ok.

If you feel scared for her or she starts acting different(even if she seems better and is acting manic, or starts giving away possessions or other red flags) Get her to the ER IMMEDIATELY!....do what you need to do to make sure she is safe. Don't worry about her getting mad at you, your priority is making sure she isn't in danger of hurting herself or others.

Suboxstitute
03-16-2009, 09:17 PM
OK- my husband committed suicide when he was 26 and I want to correct a mis-statement in this thread.

People who "take the ultimate way out" DO TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY DO IT. It is a MYTH that when people threaten to do it, they likely DO NOT do it..... and it is "just a cry for help." Yes, it is a cry for help. A serious one.

Google the signs of suicidal behavior - talking about it is one of them. Unexplained anger is another. But it sounds like, except for the staying in bed all day, like there are many signs she does not have as well. I'd bet my bottom dollar it is the hormones.

Please make sure you do NOT have a gun in the house available to her (yes, of COURSE there are other ways kill yourself, but a gun is quick and if she is not thinking straight.... DO NOT HAVE GUNS AROUND!

And if you cannot get her doctor on the phone re: the birth control, TAKE HER TO AN ER and let them know what meds she is taking. Perhaps she will listen to them. They will help you both figure out what is going on. I will bet it IS the hormones. But you cannot keep going on like this night after night (I did it for a LONG time...... believe me, I know. With a baby and a four year old).

I wish you the best......you can get through this but may need some help.

Sue

PS It was a long time ago, but I know a fair amount about it, having gone through it and wondering "WHY?"

So take her, day or night - depending on the place, they'll have a nurse, a psych resident and probably a counselor/social work type talk to her. It might (WILL!) take a few hours. But what's a few hours for the woman you love?

SHELLEY
03-16-2009, 09:22 PM
you know that threatening suicide repeatedly is nothing but fucking manipulation 99.999% of the time?

poonwhalla
03-16-2009, 09:25 PM
you know that threatening suicide repeatedly is nothing but fucking manipulation 99.999% of the time?


I wish that was true then I could have 3 of my close friends back. Can't you find a different thread to be Negator in?

SHELLEY
03-16-2009, 09:43 PM
Can't you find a different thread to be Negator in?

no
can't you find a different bitch to piss and moan at?

dieselbaby
03-16-2009, 11:02 PM
no
can't you find a different bitch to piss and moan at?

You're the resident crackwhore here, pissing on you is part of your watersports service package.

Raz
03-16-2009, 11:22 PM
^^^Oh man dat was brutal.....

Maybe suboxstitute is da one we should be listening to, seeing as she has real life experience?!!

If you love that women get her some help asap...Tell her you cant continue living like this and get her up the hospital bro..ASAP....Fuck livin like that...Its obvious she needs help and a proper assessment...

If this behaviour has come outta da blue, you gotta find the reason behind it and then get it fixed sorted....

And i would make sure there is nuffin available for her to use/carry out her threat...

losangeleslifer
03-17-2009, 02:32 AM
you know that threatening suicide repeatedly is nothing but fucking manipulation 99.999% of the time?

Brilliant.

oxyjon
03-17-2009, 05:55 AM
OK- my husband committed suicide when he was 26 and I want to correct a mis-statement in this thread.

People who "take the ultimate way out" DO TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY DO IT. It is a MYTH that when people threaten to do it, they likely DO NOT do it..... and it is "just a cry for help." Yes, it is a cry for help. A serious one.

Google the signs of suicidal behavior - talking about it is one of them. Unexplained anger is another. But it sounds like, except for the staying in bed all day, like there are many signs she does not have as well. I'd bet my bottom dollar it is the hormones.

Please make sure you do NOT have a gun in the house available to her (yes, of COURSE there are other ways kill yourself, but a gun is quick and if she is not thinking straight.... DO NOT HAVE GUNS AROUND!

And if you cannot get her doctor on the phone re: the birth control, TAKE HER TO AN ER and let them know what meds she is taking. Perhaps she will listen to them. They will help you both figure out what is going on. I will bet it IS the hormones. But you cannot keep going on like this night after night (I did it for a LONG time...... believe me, I know. With a baby and a four year old).

I wish you the best......you can get through this but may need some help.

Sue

PS It was a long time ago, but I know a fair amount about it, having gone through it and wondering "WHY?"

So take her, day or night - depending on the place, they'll have a nurse, a psych resident and probably a counselor/social work type talk to her. It might (WILL!) take a few hours. But what's a few hours for the woman you love?


I think everyone going through situation like this should read this. Great advice, thanks.

Suboxstitute
03-17-2009, 05:41 PM
Yeah Shelley, you're right - - - - - MANY people DO manipulate others by threatening suicide, and that thought crossed my mind lots of times with my husband, but I couldn't be sure.

I tried to get him help; he refused. Our two little kids one was a baby so mostly the almost-five year old boy, named after his dad) suffered to this day. (They are grown now, but our son inherited the genetics (and the loss of his dad doing the ultimate "fuck you kid" on him, hr has been hospitalized twice.......similiar shit. Sons good now but those were tough years.

It isn't 99.9% of people who talk about it that are just manipulating their wife, GF, BF, whatever. I used to know the statistic ...I don't know it anymore and I'm not going to make one up for this thread.

So.......That was pretty harsh - I guess he manipulated me and our two little kids, one a baby, right into shooting himself, at home, where I found him. I've always tried to be decent to you even if we don't agree. Can you EVER cut me a break? Talking about it doing it IS often the first sign. Close behind is coming up with ways to actually do it...... Doesn't seem like she has done that so that is good, another one is giving your stuff away ...stuff that was important to you.

Sue

WhyCatsPaint
03-17-2009, 05:55 PM
Sue,

I am sorry for what you have gone through and hearing how you did try to help him. I have known 2 people that have committed suicide and one other person who has come real close and she did mention to people the day she tried. She put the gun in her purse drove to her doctors told the front desk lady I need to see my doctor now because I feel like I might take my own life. The front office lady told her to sit and wait so she walked to the bathroom shut the door and looked in the mirror and shot herself in the doctors office. She survived and has a plate were the bullet went in. The gun luckily kicked up since she had it point at her forehead and did not take her life. To this day she has had 2 other close attempts. No one can seem to figure out what compels her to try again and again but no one thinks twice when she makes a threat.



To the OP I hope your wife gets better soon if she continues this behavior please don't ignore it.

oxyjon
03-17-2009, 06:07 PM
I want to thank everyone for the support through this. She has dryed out on the xanax, and told me she
feels so much better. I guess that shit mixed with hormones= unhealthy thoughts. She can look back on
the past couple days and realizes the way she acted isnt right. We are taking it 1 minute at a time and she taking a few days off work to feel better. She agreed to keep xanax out of our life. I love her dearly
and we will get through this. Thankyou Opiophile's for helping me deal with it.

nick
03-17-2009, 06:12 PM
you know that threatening suicide repeatedly is nothing but fucking manipulation 99.999% of the time?

99.99% huh and how much research did you do to come up with this statistic?

When you're dealing with something as serious as suicide and you're just stating your opinion........Clearly state that it's just your opinion.

Suboxstitute
03-17-2009, 06:19 PM
To the OP - anything new to report? I may have missed an updated post from you since after I read Shelley's "statistic"about MANIPULATION (which is sometimes but not Always true)I DID NOT get MUCH FURTHER IN THE THREAD LOOKING FOR YOU)

. HANG IN THERE. depression , ESPECIALLY HORMONAL-RELATED, is curable WITH SOME MED CHANGES.

sUE (cAP LOCK IS STUCK!)

nick
03-17-2009, 06:34 PM
To the OP - anything new to report? I may have missed an updated post from you since after I read Shelley's "statistic"about MANIPULATION (which is sometimes but not Always true)I DID NOT get MUCH FURTHER IN THE THREAD LOOKING FOR YOU)

. HANG IN THERE. depression , ESPECIALLY HORMONAL-RELATED, is curable WITH SOME MED CHANGES.

sUE (cAP LOCK IS STUCK!)

Sue,update is the post above mine.Post number 41.

opiALOVE
03-17-2009, 07:30 PM
Well, to tell you guys the truth, we are not legally married. But to us we are, you know what I mean? But she wont read this. I just need some good advice. I know noone here knows me well enough to tell me what to do. Just wanted some more ideas on it. Because Im racking my brain trying to come up with the answer. I tell her if she takes more xanax that she'll lose me. She takes it anyway and gets all fucked up. All I was saying is that this is my house, I pay the bills etc... She mkes not even a third of what I make as far as money. I love her to death though. I just miss the happy Eva, that I fell in love with. Shes only been like this 3-4 days. Can ortho trycyclene lo do this? I cant get a hold of her doctor.

im not takin aaway from the severity of the problem, but maybe there is a lil comfort in in the fact that its only been a few days, she could still just snap out of it. i mean it could be hormonal, like you said, xannies, stress. you should stay with it just due to the commitment made. married or not ppl get depressed sometimes, it may only last a few more days. i mean it could be the beginning of
somthing more and long term, but might not. i say shower her with love, some flowers, a poem, a card, ya know do some nice shit. dont ultimate her just yet about the xanex. give her a lil time and a lotta niceness, as hard as it may be. if you got sad fer a lil bit, think what would help you. she should get some help, maybe just a therepist to dump on. i dunno man, but i know sometimes ppl just get sad. could pass, could stay. but support and love are usually the best answers at least when its only been a few days.

good luck man. when my wife gets real sad, cuz us both bein laid off, i get the guitar, play a song, make a card, some flower petals, just kindness.. give it a shot. threatin suicide sucks and im sorry you hafta hear that. its quite a burden. give it a shot, might work , might not. but worth a shot.

ka11ink
03-17-2009, 08:21 PM
You say you can live with or without her. Not to sound like a dick but that doesn't sound like u really trully love her man. If I love someone I can't imagine life without them.

oxyjon
03-17-2009, 08:37 PM
You say you can live with or without her. Not to sound like a dick but that doesn't sound like u really trully love her man. If I love someone I can't imagine life without them.


Man, I feel bad for saying that. I truly do love her. I never had to go through anything like this. She had
a lot of anger towards me at the same time. I was hurting when I said that. And in no way did I mean if
she takes her life. I really cant live without her. I didnt realize the seriousness of her threats at the time.
We are working are way through this. She tells me she would have a hard time dealing with me if the
situation was reversed. I really regret saying that, but she is able to read this thread with me. And wants help and to change. Hopefully we can live the rest of our lives together happily ever after. Every relationship has ups and downs. It takes to and a whole lot of work. Thankyou to everyone who helped.

poonwhalla
03-18-2009, 12:58 AM
I am glad to hear you guys are working things out and that she will be seeking help to change. I wish you both the best.

SHELLEY
03-18-2009, 03:57 AM
99.99% huh and how much research did you do to come up with this statistic?

When you're dealing with something as serious as suicide and you're just stating your opinion........Clearly state that it's just your opinion.

1) don't you know that 51.9% of statistics are made up on the spot?

2) everyone already knows that everything i post is just my opinion

3) sorry suboxstitute... i was in a bad relationship where this fucker
threatened suicide on a weekly basis back when i was young n stupid
i stayed with him for long enough that when i heard "i'm gonna kill myself" more than once from ANYONE
i just want to pimp slap that sumbitch
oh and guess who's still alive and kicking? my ex

4) if you post something (anything) on an open board
you'd better be expecting someone to say something somewhere
that isn't very nice... thats one of the things about the internet
we all have different experiences and different things that piss us off
or for some of us, EVERYTHING pisses us off- just check narkotikon (j/k dude, don't wig)

Raz
03-18-2009, 09:16 AM
suicide is a serious subject.....One time some one close to me said they'd fucked aroun wiv too many pills....I knew it was a cry for attention..So fuckin what.....I loved that person and still do, so i just picked em up, pt em in ze car and drove to the hospital...

Stayed by her bed all night makin sure she was still breathing.....Well that was enuff to convince her i cared enuff and no more drama wiv da pills....Crisis over...And a long time ago...

But for anyone whose lost a significant other fru suicide my heart goes out to you....

poonwhalla
03-18-2009, 01:10 PM
no
can't you find a different bitch to piss and moan at?

When you say heartless despicable things like that manipulation stat, implying that suicide threats are really nothing but someones way to manipulate you as if they are nothing, I am going to give you shit for it. You could have a little more tact and respect when you are looking for an argument and leave that shit where suicide is not the topic, although you may not be capable of that. Like Raz said suicide is a serious subject and there is no need for shitty comments like that.

Like I said I have lost 3 really good people to suicide, 2 of which showed tell tale signs and threats. My sisters Ex and good friend of mine was the Val Victorian of my high school who had a full scholarship to an Ivy league school. He was adopted from Vietnam and after my sister broke up with him and then he found out that his real parents were dead from the war, he decided to put a 12 gauge buckshot in his chest with his wheelchair bound foster father down stairs, unable to rescue him. So threats may be manipulation, but they shouldn't be treated as a minor thing. It is not a subject I take lightly or joke around about. So Shelley take your moronic mouth of the South opinions somewhere else if you are just looking for an argument.

frankie
03-18-2009, 01:29 PM
never ever take a suicide threat lightly and for christ sakes if she is a member here and she reads this i am sure this will make her feel worse like poppyluv said first lock up all the meds and take her to the emergency room for an evaluation for only they can give her a true evaluation and admit her if need be and maybe put her on anti depressants again if need be but for god sakes do something instead of bitchin on here. do it man and good luck

oxyjon
03-21-2009, 08:03 PM
Update, everything is getting better. For the past 2 nights she has been staying with her parents because with her being off work and home all the time, we needed a little space. This has brought us closer suprisingly. She got a couple months worth of welbutrin and hopefully that helps. We both agreed she can come home tommorow. She has realized that xanax was part of the problem and has agreed to stop them. Lately though, I feel real selfish because I want Opiophile all to my myself. Seriously. I told her that you guys help me out and that I need personal space when it comes to problems that I share with everyone here. Am I fucked up? Its like her diary I respect her space with that. This is almost the same thing. I told her I need space as far as this goes. And that got me a couple days alone. But we are better. I guess its one more thing we have to compromise on. Oh well. Thank you everyone for the help. And she has not mentioned suicide since thankfully. Im just hanging in there, everything will be alright.

ka11ink
03-21-2009, 09:50 PM
Man, I feel bad for saying that. I truly do love her. I never had to go through anything like this. She had
a lot of anger towards me at the same time. I was hurting when I said that. And in no way did I mean if
she takes her life. I really cant live without her. I didnt realize the seriousness of her threats at the time.
We are working are way through this. She tells me she would have a hard time dealing with me if the
situation was reversed. I really regret saying that, but she is able to read this thread with me. And wants help and to change. Hopefully we can live the rest of our lives together happily ever after. Every relationship has ups and downs. It takes to and a whole lot of work. Thankyou to everyone who helped.

Ya everyone gets that 'foot in mouth' disease on occasion, like u said I'm sure u were just spouting off cuz u were emotional. And that's good stuff's getting better wish u both the best, hopefully it works out.