sidman
03-06-2009, 12:55 PM
Does anyone think its possible to come off of bupe with another opiate ( full-antagonist) like morphine,heroin,oxycodone?
I'm really sick of being hooked on the Subs. I got on them because I thought they were the "Magic Bullet" for Opiate addiction but to be quite honest I am having a TERRIBLE time trying to quit it!!
I mean when I first got on them I could skip days (3 or 4) at a time but now ( aprox a year later) I cant get through one day without some form of "Heebie-Jeebies" and the worst part for me is the mental part. Its almost like they are harder to stop than dope is but with them,( bupe) you don't get to experience any of the "glory" that comes with full antogonist....... but, boy are they addictive!
I haven't come off them fully yet but its been over 48 hrs and I was feeling so damn grouchy,depressed,constipated,yawning alot,watery eyes, strong smells irritate the hell out of me and I'm on some sort of emotional roller-coaster.
Well,that was until I plugged 120 mgs worth of morphine ( sustained release) then went to go lie down.I crushed them up real good,mixed them into some real butter then formed two large suppositories and put them in the freezer till they were hard enough to pluggem'. At first, I noticed how my legs started to ache ( they weren't, before I plugged the morph) and then ,slowly,over about two hours,they felt GOOD and I had a slight, but still pleasant, feelin in the gut ( a good sign no?) and mentally I became more focused.Now,my eyes are pretty pinned and I feel mellow....not really high...just mellow ( I was tempted to quote jimi hendrix there! you know....."not really high... just beautiful")
I've taken morph a few times after going 48 hrs or more without bupe in the past and sometimes ( If I wait long enough) I even get a little glow or buzz. I know the subs take friggin' FOREVER ( seems like it anyways doesnt it?) to get out of the receptors and thats why in the past I would wait four days to try and get high on heroin but I would end up blowin my $$ because I wouldnt get high.
That is until someone told me I could get high but it would just take a whole lot to get really blasted. Thats why I plugged so much morph you know? It seems to have worked but maybe some of it is placebo effect too,I dont know.
So, I want to know if anyone has ever gotten off of bupe with another opiate or if someone knows someone who has and i think it would be useful to hear everyones experiences on this before I attempt to do so....I REALLY NEED YOU GUYS'S OPINION PLEASE because I really want to try and see how life is without having to depend on opi's anymore ( my only real clean-time was jail-time in the last 15 yrs and even that only adds up to 18 months) because I remeber how good it felt before I got on them after a car accident and then the whole nightmare started ( I bet alot of fellow Opi's can relate to dat one !) but after many years of dope n pharmys, then finally, the bupeness, I am sick of it.....more then ever!! I think the bupe messed me up in the guts ( constipation anyone?) and in the head then any other full-antagonist did!! I want out!!! They helped me get my life in order more than any other drug did but my insurance ran out. I used up my eligibility for this states insurance and I can't get it anymore ( they call us types the "High Utilizers!! " and over the last 8 yrs they musta paid out tons o' cash on pills,rehabs,mental wards,incarceration, etc.,etc.,for me) because I used it up so now I buy it from fellow freinds who are still in the "Program" but now they are getting more strict with the bupe and they are randomly calling in patients for counts ( urine levels and pill counts) so now they are soaring in prices.....the more they clamp down the higher they'll go, too !
anyways, I found that the morph actually helped me again today....I'm not high but I feel better....I have access to more so ( seven more @ 15 mgs each) I want to use those. Then I was thinkin for the tail end of the taper I could use poppyseed tea.....
What do you guys think or recommend? Maybe actual heoin would be good to start off with then work my way down in strength? I don't know but I sure would like some help here guys and gals....
Thanx for listenin' and uhhhhhhh.....G'night.
I'm really sick of being hooked on the Subs. I got on them because I thought they were the "Magic Bullet" for Opiate addiction but to be quite honest I am having a TERRIBLE time trying to quit it!!
I mean when I first got on them I could skip days (3 or 4) at a time but now ( aprox a year later) I cant get through one day without some form of "Heebie-Jeebies" and the worst part for me is the mental part. Its almost like they are harder to stop than dope is but with them,( bupe) you don't get to experience any of the "glory" that comes with full antogonist....... but, boy are they addictive!
I haven't come off them fully yet but its been over 48 hrs and I was feeling so damn grouchy,depressed,constipated,yawning alot,watery eyes, strong smells irritate the hell out of me and I'm on some sort of emotional roller-coaster.
Well,that was until I plugged 120 mgs worth of morphine ( sustained release) then went to go lie down.I crushed them up real good,mixed them into some real butter then formed two large suppositories and put them in the freezer till they were hard enough to pluggem'. At first, I noticed how my legs started to ache ( they weren't, before I plugged the morph) and then ,slowly,over about two hours,they felt GOOD and I had a slight, but still pleasant, feelin in the gut ( a good sign no?) and mentally I became more focused.Now,my eyes are pretty pinned and I feel mellow....not really high...just mellow ( I was tempted to quote jimi hendrix there! you know....."not really high... just beautiful")
I've taken morph a few times after going 48 hrs or more without bupe in the past and sometimes ( If I wait long enough) I even get a little glow or buzz. I know the subs take friggin' FOREVER ( seems like it anyways doesnt it?) to get out of the receptors and thats why in the past I would wait four days to try and get high on heroin but I would end up blowin my $$ because I wouldnt get high.
That is until someone told me I could get high but it would just take a whole lot to get really blasted. Thats why I plugged so much morph you know? It seems to have worked but maybe some of it is placebo effect too,I dont know.
So, I want to know if anyone has ever gotten off of bupe with another opiate or if someone knows someone who has and i think it would be useful to hear everyones experiences on this before I attempt to do so....I REALLY NEED YOU GUYS'S OPINION PLEASE because I really want to try and see how life is without having to depend on opi's anymore ( my only real clean-time was jail-time in the last 15 yrs and even that only adds up to 18 months) because I remeber how good it felt before I got on them after a car accident and then the whole nightmare started ( I bet alot of fellow Opi's can relate to dat one !) but after many years of dope n pharmys, then finally, the bupeness, I am sick of it.....more then ever!! I think the bupe messed me up in the guts ( constipation anyone?) and in the head then any other full-antagonist did!! I want out!!! They helped me get my life in order more than any other drug did but my insurance ran out. I used up my eligibility for this states insurance and I can't get it anymore ( they call us types the "High Utilizers!! " and over the last 8 yrs they musta paid out tons o' cash on pills,rehabs,mental wards,incarceration, etc.,etc.,for me) because I used it up so now I buy it from fellow freinds who are still in the "Program" but now they are getting more strict with the bupe and they are randomly calling in patients for counts ( urine levels and pill counts) so now they are soaring in prices.....the more they clamp down the higher they'll go, too !
anyways, I found that the morph actually helped me again today....I'm not high but I feel better....I have access to more so ( seven more @ 15 mgs each) I want to use those. Then I was thinkin for the tail end of the taper I could use poppyseed tea.....
What do you guys think or recommend? Maybe actual heoin would be good to start off with then work my way down in strength? I don't know but I sure would like some help here guys and gals....
Thanx for listenin' and uhhhhhhh.....G'night.