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bi11i
03-15-2005, 10:50 AM
Great news for Canada - they finally did it. What i want to know is, when looking at that picture, does each junky get to take his/her own dip in that fat pile of powder?

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2002/04/22/image506931l.jpg (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/14/world/main680057.shtml)

(AP) Heroin paid for by Canadian taxpayers was given to junkies Monday and promptly injected.

The three Vancouver users have become the first in North America to be given free prescription heroin, as part of a controversial experiment.

The North American Opiate Medication Initiative (http://www.ofcmhap.on.ca/addiction/north_american_opiate_medication.htm), known as NAOMI, will eventually recruit 157 people for the two-year study.

"Today, the treatment stage of the NAOMI study begins," said spokesman Jim Boothroyd. "The clinical trial is fully up and running."

Participants will be split into two groups — one receiving heroin, the other methadone — to find out if heroin is better for addicts who have failed at methadone or abstinence.

The heroin users will attend NAOMI's heavily secured clinic in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/09/world/main672633.shtml) slum three times a day, seven days a week. They are given their fix and shoot it themselves in an on-site safe-injection room under nurse supervision.

"The site has the security requirements of Fort Knox," said Boothroyd. "There's very little heroin on the site, and the site is extremely secure."

Methadone users will come twice a day to drink their heroin substitute.

The participants get free drugs and medical care, but will only make $150 over the trial by filling out a half-dozen questionnaires.

The synthetic heroin is made in Europe, and is stored in a secret location.

More than 4,000 drug addicts live near the clinic in Vancouver's impoverished Downtown Eastside, an area known for its street drug deals.

The 157 people selected to take part must have been addicted for at least five years.

Those in the project will go to the clinic three times a day. Nurses will supervise the injections. Seventy people will receive methadone; the rest will get heroin and methadone.

NAOMI's clinical head, Dr. David Marsh, said participants will get a measured dose of heroin that will be reduced if they top up with street drugs.

"This will be the first time in Canadian history that physicians are prescribing heroin for the treatment of heroin dependence," he said.

Kim Kerr, executive director of the Downtown Eastside Residents Association, said it's time to stop complaining about addiction and start treating it.

"People who are addicted to heroin should be treated like anyone with a medical condition," he said.

rebo
09-20-2005, 05:14 AM
Lucky bastards!!!!

Peripat
09-20-2005, 04:54 PM
They nearly tried that several years ago in Canberra, AU...

Until our Prime Minister, John Howard, put the kibosh on it. (Damn you, Howard. Damn you to hell.)

Zoop
09-20-2005, 08:44 PM
Why the FUCK should I have to pay for some junky's habit??? I say make it available legally to those who can PAY for their own shit, and automatically the price drops like 10-fold, and the quality improves too.

Just ain't right to make non-junkies pay for junkies bad choices. Maybe all the junkies can pool their cash together and start a dope-buying co-op, so they can get "volume discounts"

Man, would be nice to have being a dope addict not so stigmatized - but then again, anybody who's sane, that is, who's not one of us - would think having your life tied to the supply of some white powder (oh, nice pure white heroin, drooool) IS insane.

Jus' sayin'

Ogre
09-20-2005, 09:28 PM
Well I think the point of the program is to get them stable first. It's only offered to the hardcore junkies. You have to have been a junkie for over five years at least i think. Just like methadone now I'm sure they'll be made to pay once the program shows the people in it are more stable then they were.

katomic
09-21-2005, 07:10 AM
Heroin is cheap and easy to make plus crime will probaly go down wasteing less police time and money also if the H is made in the counrty then less money leaves the country to greedy drug cartels over all i think i will save the country money. H is easer than Methadone to come off and probaly cheaper too.
i think the benifets outweigh the use of Methadone

anyone ealse?

shaunclo
09-21-2005, 02:13 PM
I believe methadone is a joke, I have only heard hellish stories about the stuff. Getting off of heroin and getting on something else that is 10x's more addictive and harder to detox from. The only thing I dont understand is they are giving heroin to junkies to help them detox? hows that work, do they eventually ween them off of it with smaller and smaller doses, or are they just trying to give it to them so they will stop trying to steal for it. Nonetheless, I want some good white china....I have only ever used black-tar......uggggghhh

katomic
09-21-2005, 03:40 PM
i think its a matenance thing to?
a similar thing was done in the Netherlands a while back which was H instead of methadone over a year or two and the lives of the addicts was greatly improved
I don’t think its about detox more about crime and improving the lives of junkies and those around them including the public until they are ready to detox
Perhaps they are starting to admit that methadone is not the answer and doing something about it? I don’t know but I think it should be everywhere, It’s got to be the way to go

HeidiW
09-21-2005, 08:48 PM
I want some prescription heroin, I'll take part in a study . . .

poonwhalla
09-22-2005, 03:38 AM
Canada has some great programs like socialized medicine, which that sounds like is part of that philosophy. Think of it this way maybe there are probably a lot of people who would steal whatever is near them to grab a bit of dope to do what they do, this may lead them another way other than that. So the person who is sick and has no $$ they are entitled no health care? Besides that who would not want hassle free free dope?

Opiyum
04-18-2006, 01:21 AM
Just stumbled upon this interesting thread and thought I'd update/recirculate it. Which I should say proved to be pretty hard. Apparently the media lost interest..

1. Schechter named Chief Scientific Officer of MSFHR

Dr. Martin Schechter, a CIHR-funded researcher who is leading the North American Opiate Medication Initiative (NAOMI) for heroin abusers, has been named the first Chief Scientific Officer for the Michael Smith Foundation for Health Research (MSFHR). MSFHR is named in honour of Michael Smith, Canada's Nobel laureate. It aims to build British Columbia's capacity for excellence in clinical, biomedical, health services and population health research. Globe and Mail, February 4, 2006.



As of Jan.'06

2.NAOMI needs 157 participants in each city. Nearly a year into recruitment, only 85 have signed up and met the criteria for participation, which critics say is too strict. This has pushed back results by 10 months. *Data will be released by the controversial study a year after the last participant signs up.

*Apparently this is why there is so little information on the progress of the program.

I could find 157 junkies in two days....what the hells going on up there..? There should be a line 5 miles long to sign up for that.

Coddfish
04-18-2006, 03:59 AM
I started a thread a few weeks back with a news story on this very program, "vancouver's givin it away!" i think it was. The interesting thing about it, in my opinion, is that the junkies get to INJECT THEMSELVES! Fuck me, wouldn't that be cool? But it might take away a little of the fun, having to be supervised while you do it; the story said that was the case. Also, it makes a former 'done patient wonder how many times a day a brotha has to go to the 'heroin clinic'? I mean, when I was a full blown junky I was shootin' up like every four hours. Pain in the ass that was, and would it would be for the 157 guinea pigs in Vancouver. Still, if the program takes off I foresee a mass junky exodus from this country to that. We'll have to start watchin hockey.

antony
04-19-2006, 12:04 PM
I could find 157 junkies in two days....what the hells going on up there..? There should be a line 5 miles long to sign up for that.
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I'll tell you why. Anyone know what serious paranoia feels like? Then have a beurocratic office set up "tests," Im sure you cant walk in anonymously, and no one is gonna walk outta there clean and sober as if not to run to the local dealer for the next fix. I'd feel like my name would be on the top of the list of "people to watch" by the DEA.

No thanks.

superman
04-20-2006, 03:28 AM
"Why the FUCK should I have to pay for some junky's habit???"

because one day that junky on the street could be someone you love very much... family, friend or stranger, the canadian health care system should be responsible for the rehabilitation of all addicts seeking help

I think it's about fucking time that researchers get over thier fear of administering euphoric and safe drugs. to think we're feeding people SSRI's and tricyclics when things like GHB, hash, morphine and amphetamine would fix most people up just fine. I would bet that cheap, safe, pure and plentifull recreational drugs would make for a very productive and happy canada :)

And i'll smoke a doob to that right now!