No rain no shrooms

[Shadowsblaze]

Not the rainy season but expected rain yesterday ha, Nada. Swim has always had good luck in winter in So Fla out in the cowpie fields and could make some nice finds getting up early. With slow growth, sun down low in the sky early picken produced lots of unopened caps. Swim didn't have to deal with alot of nasty flavor, caps are strong and bitter and a handful was worth the ride. By the time the sun is up you could be on the beach flying with the gulls. Has anyone been having any luck "tall grass has a few but lack of rain affecting grass patches" and swim's luck sucks. We need rain bad, Later.

[InfectedMushroom]

Did you really need to make this pointless post? Less posting, more reading IMO

[KiloByte]

Did you really need to make this pointless post? Less posting, more reading IMO

Hey at least this thread managed to get 1 solid point across. :)

[OxiContinKing]

Some of us have fried more braincells and are far more 'burnt out' than others...

[Indy]

Eh? The thread's about mushroom hunting, what more do you want?

The idea of being able to hunt for mushroom has always intrigued me, and i always wanted to try it, but I don't think anything good grows in my area(northeast wisconsin)

I really like the thought that in this day and age there are still drugs you can simply pick from nature.

Does anyone know if there's somewhere I can see a map of what areas of the US have the "good" mushrooms? Or does anyone know if any of them grow in Northeastern Wisconsin?

[Narkotikon]

You know, I'm not going into specific details as to where I / we got the spores, so no one ask, but shrooms (aside from alcohol) were my first drug. It was sophomore year in college. I had a single room (which was really a double, with two beds, closets, dressers, deksts, etc.) and I became friends with the guy across the hall from me, and then another guy who lived in a different dorm, but was also a sophomore.

Anyway, from the guy across the hall, I learned that you could order psylocibin spores in mega-huge syringes off the net (but, alas, I believe that has since been busted by the authorities). Anyway, we ordered the spores, which came with directions. Apparently it's legal to sell the spores (or at least was at the time) because they don't have any psylocibin in them.

You basically got some mason canning jars, steralized them in a hot water bath, like you would for canning vegetables or whatever, then added organic brown rice and I think a little water if i remember correctly. The organic brown rice was important though because you didn't want anything that could possibly have pesticides on it that would kill the spores.

You then filled the jars with the rice mixture, inject an amount of the spore solution into the jars, sealed them, then (and this is where I became the naive patsy / victim) put them in a closet (guess whose?...seeing as how I had a single room with two closets). Then, when you saw growth, you unsealed the jars, and about a week or so later you would have shrooms growing out of the jars. It was actually very quite easy.

Now, knowing what I know now about drugs, and how psylocibin is a C-I and in the same class as Qualuudes and heroin, THERE IS NO WAY IN FUCKING HELL I would EVER do that again. But, at the time, I was naive, wanted to fit in, and didn't know shit about drugs or shrooms or anything like that. I thought "what trouble could I get in for allowing them to grow mushrooms in my room?" Besides, I had "friends." Oh, how foolish I used to be. NEVER AGAIN!

I will say I got my fair share, though, of the shrooms, and that they were actually quite potent and good. I do remember my first time eating them (we used to cut them up and put them on triscuits with peanut butter, sort like canapes), I got really nauseated and vomitted, which I assume now was a bad trip. The second and subsequent times, however, were really really fun.

I remember giggling / laughing a lot, the visuals were amazing (I had strung multi-colored christmas lights across the ceiling of my dorm room, and when we were in there tripping / peaking, I remember one minute the lights looked normal, then a second later each light was the size of a dinner plate, and all fractal-like), and music sounded amazing.

I remember we were listening to Orbital's "Moebius" and I swear that was the coolest song. It's hard to describe, but the way Orbital arranged the vocals in that song made it seem like it was accidental, like we were hearing stuff / hallucinating auditorily. But, looking back, and after hearing the song again several times, it was probably just the shrooms making us trip and making us believe is was "odd" or "special."

Sadly, those two fuckers were not true friends, and let's just say they got what they deserved. Hell hath no fury like a gay, mentally-issued bitch scorned.

As to cow shit shrooms, I know it's popular and commonly done, but I just couldn't make myself eat that. Too OCD / afraid of getting parasites from fecal matter. Just grow the shit. If you can still find the spores, which I honestly don't know if you could, because this happened when I was 19, it's easy and much cleaner.

But, yeah, out of the psychedelics I've done (and by that I'm counting acid, shrooms, and weed), shrooms were my favorite and least likely to make me paranoid. Actually, I don't think I ever got paranoid on shrooms. I Just got nauseated that one time. I never really got paranoid on acid either. I just didn't think it was as great as shrooms. I know Special K can be sort of psychedelic, but I never found it that trippy. And I loved K. Never tried PCP, but I know it's similar to K, although I don't know if I'd want to try it. I"m pretty much just into opiates now, and I've heard too many horror stories about PCP. And I've done my fair share of DXM, and can quite confidently say I think it SUCKS now. At the time, though, it was decent. Then I found better things.

[Shadowsblaze]

I have tripped alot but shrooms have always been my favorite high, behind opi's. Combined I can feel perfect if such a thing is possible. Finding them is half the fun and a bottle of water in hand I eat em as I find them. One foggy morning my friend and I got seperated and after some time he calls to me and says look behind you. I turn and a herd of cattle had been following me. He said he was watching them for awhile and tripping thought I looked like a shepherd. I guess the cows thought I was gonna feed them or was a predator and they were keeping there eyes on me. Sorry don't know about northwest but the thread before this one mentioned ammita mushroom which I believe grows up north but I also believe it is highly poisoness.

[Morphus]

Google spore syringes, tons of people selling all kinds of different strains. It was PF that originally started that, though. Go to the shroomery, lots of people still growing mushrooms.

[trainwrecker]

Are you kidding indy? Northern Wisco is some of the best foraging country in the mid-west. You have of course the king of wild mushrooms: the morel. You have chantrelles, miatakes, chicken of the woods, all sorts of different Lactarius', all types of boletes, a few types of oyster mushrooms, lobster mushrooms, Ceaser's aminatias... and thats just what I can think of off hand.

As far as 'speciality' mushrooms go... not much. You can maybe find Big Laughing Jim's, but they are extremely bitter and aren't as strong as the 'common, commercial "magic" mushroom'. You have Amanita Muscaria, but that isn't something for the novice tripper. It is very likely you have "Bluefoots"(Psilocybe Cerulupes) or something similar(Psilocybe Qubecenses), but they are not really common.

I'll tell you what though. I like in northern Michigan which is pretty similar to northen Wisco. We have a similar situation where not much "magic" grows. However I had a friend who was super dedicated to forging and went out at least 3-4 time a week just to see what he could see. This guy discovered a brand new species of Psilocybe and now has it at the University of Michigan herbarium awaiting his latin description of it, so it can be named after him.

So yeah, they are out there. Weather or not they will let you find them is another story.

[Restharrow]

In the late 1960's I tavelled with a high school friend to Missouri. His family owned a huge farm. We were from the city and his country cousins used to find old dried up piles of cowshit that had mushrooms growing on them. They dried them and boiled them into a tea (the mushrooms -- not the shit).

Does that sound like Psylosibin mushrooms? Do people still do that?

I have always been curious if that is a common practice out west.

Will

[trainwrecker]

Yeah, psilocybe cubensis grow all over from the golf coast up to southern Ohio and west to Missiora. They mostly grow on leached cow manure and there are a lot of people who hunt for them.

Even more prevalent now is a few different species of psilocybes that grow out west from BC down to central cali. Psilocybe Cyanescen, P. Azurescen, and P. Cyanfrisoca. All of these mushrooms grow on woodchips(landscaping mulch) and are absolutely EVERYWHERE from about mid-october sometimes through January or February depending on the weather. They are extremely prolific and once you learn to identify them you will see them everywhere: parks, schools, police stations. All right in the city too.
SWIM went to Seattle a few years back and picked nearly 50lbs in the course of 10 days. Of course they dried up to only be less than 10lbs, but that is still pretty good for less than two weeks of picking. SWIM didn't have to work all winter.

[underide]

In the late 1960's I tavelled with a high school friend to Missouri. His family owned a huge farm. We were from the city and his country cousins used to find old dried up piles of cowshit that had mushrooms growing on them. They dried them and boiled them into a tea (the mushrooms -- not the shit).

Does that sound like Psylosibin mushrooms? Do people still do that?

I have always been curious if that is a common practice out west.

Will

yep still do (almost) every season - which is Autumn - and the mushrooms we have here are strongest in late November (the end of the season)

there's usually no need for cow-shit here though - they grow on hills (usually facing east for some reason), parks, wooded areas with open grass-fields in between the woods, public parks and even people's back yeards.
The mushrooms we have here are psylocibin mushies called 'liberty caps' i believe - they have a long stalk and an umbrella-like cap, with a sort of a 'nipple' at the very top of the cap
range in colour from dark white to brownish gray to the mixture of all of the above colours
they are usually rather small/thin ranging anywhere from half an inch to about 3-4 inches and a cap (fully opened) usually not bigger than a medium suit button

the first time i had to be shown and guided by someone who knew what they look like, but once you see them for the first time and pick about a hundred of them, you never forget what they look like

Over here though, they only grow from about mid September to late November and even to earily December...They like rain during the day and they like the dark -hence the autumn season i presume. They don't like FREEZING cold, but it VERY hardly snows here like it did this year, and it's VERY rare that the temperature will drop to zero degrees Celcius

anyway - first time i went picking them i think it was back autumn 2000
we went picking to a very large wooded/forest park (there are usually many thousands of them still growing in some of the spots that i was showed), with a lot of open grass fields/hills -which is usually where they grow
We each got over just about 100 mushrooms each (oh yes, we did count 'em ) and once we got to THE house (used to be a small church - there are still underground tombs and tunnels underneath it apparently and it's said to be haunted - creepy shit)

Anyway - we washed each others' finds and proceeded to eat them ALL with apples and bananas, to kill the taste, although they just taste like your raw/uncooked mushrooms, like the ones you get on your pizza - not THAT bad of a taste
After the first time we usually made tea with them though - very easy process


That was my first and most memorable trip on psylocibibin mushies - very strong visuals and pretty strong headfuck, but not as intense as acid which i have done before that, and even somewhat euphoric while coming up on them

One persisting memory i still remember from that trip was - we were going up this winding stairway, upstairs (that's where the church part of the house shared a wall with the house itself, i think) and i distinctly remember it taking SOO damn long to walk up the stairs and i actually for a moment thought/believed we were monks walking up the winding stairs to some church tower - there was even some ominous hum and fgaint sounds of bells, that i asked if anyone else heard but got no answer

Then the daughter of the owner of the house showed me some picture - it actually looked 3D as soon as i saw it (it wasn't one of those holographic pictures either, it was just a plain framed painting, and it was moving and swirling - couldn't figure out what the hell it was but it was drawing and sucking me in as i sat there paralyzed in amazement

yeah- that was probably one of the best trips i ever had
and i had many after that - where i (and some folks who went along with me ) overdid it eating over
200-250 mushrooms and just losing the grip on reality completely

Still not as bad as amanita muscaria mushrooms - that shit was some nasty crap

Not too big on tripping these days, where opiates and other addictive shit has totally taken over my life and soul, but i did go picking and had some good times two previous seasons

Sorry for yet another long post - i like mushrooms though, even though i did have some unsettling experiences a couple of times it still couldn't compare one bit to the time me and my mate ate two whole caps and stems of dried amanita muscria - - very nasty shit , IMO, and i'm NOT just talking about the taste

[Restharrow]

yeah- that was probably one of the best trips i ever had
and i had many after that - where i (and some folks who went along with me ) overdid it eating over
200-250 mushrooms and just losing the grip on reality completely
What we had tasted HORRIBLE. The cousins who hosted the party used about 1/4 cup of dried mushrooms per person and just enough water to cover them. I was very nauseated from the taste, at first, then it was a very euphoric - non-stop happy laughing feeling. We laughed until our sides ached. They told us the trick was to eat just the right (small) amount and not over do it.

As a joke, the party hosts told us that a mushroom trip lasted 1 to 3 weeks. It scared us until we figured out they were joking. We were in high school - it was an innocent time. I was fascinated with the whole process.

This was 40 years ago and it made a dramatic impression on me to be able to remember it today.

[Shadowsblaze]

I just got back from Doc's and started reading some of the post but was curious by something trainwrecker said about mushroom hunting "if they will let you find them" have you read Carlos Castenada. It sounded like something that might have been said by the character Don Juan.

[trainwrecker]

I read Castanada years ago, I don't recall any quotes of that exact nature. But it has been my personal experience that if the mushrooms feel you are worthy they will find you. There are many, many hunters in Seattle in the fall and you will often run into three or four different people hunting in the same park or lawn. I have seen kids walk right by huge patches of mushrooms without noticing anything, the whole time their eyes were to the ground and they still didn't see them. I had to assume the mushrooms didn't want to be picked by that particular person.

Mushrooms are a much higher form of life than we are. They have concisness that runs all over the whole globe.

[kjjy]

Good post

I didn't read it though. Man it hasn't rained down here for about 20 years:mad:

We are chomping at the bit.

[Shadowsblaze]

I like that kjjy Good post I didn't read it though. That's cool I speedread alot and miss alot but I try to read everything and go into archives as well. Trainwrecker Yea long time since I read Castenada but you seem to have that conscious thought that was applied to animals and plants in the readings. I have been finding all sorts of plants in Fl. Over the years some real nightmares. I have found one mushroom that I called the dreamer. I couldn't find it in any mycolgy books but it isn't that rare. It grows on wood, very fibrous, white, thin as a dime and powerful. I experimented with it but it seems to shut fuction down, not in a good way, and the visions are very cartoon like and combined with a dreamy feeling almost deathlike and I was very uncomfortable with the amount I had taken.
I thought it acid like without all the increased sensory perception. Everything is very slow. I don,t use it or recomend it. That's all for now.

[Fungi_x]

What we had tasted HORRIBLE. The cousins who hosted the party used about 1/4 cup of dried mushrooms per person

About the Taste:
SWIM has had the opportunity to "grow" & "Experiment" with many many strains of the Psilocybe cubensis and have only found one strain that don't taist like garbage, Gulf Coast. Other than that they all taste the same, but then again I may have received a isolate that had a good flavor... Damb I wish I would have learned how to store spores and cultures long term back in those days.

About Dosage:
1/4c of Dried and Powdered Shrooms? Never in a million years would even timothy Leary be able to enjoy that dose! the image below with the scales was SWIM's very first harvest off BRF-CAKES via the PF-TEK that was estimated to be just under 1/4oz if dried, made SWIM trip fucking off the walls balls for 10 or 12hrs and gave me a great glow all the next day. He really enjoyed his first trip and took comfort in the fact that he created the Shrooms that were now putting him in contact with god.
I hope no one goes out and tries eating a 1/4c of Shroom powder because that would be just a bad mystake.

Checkout this dosage calculator before you go eating 1000x the amount of Shrooms you can handle. Be safe! http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator

http://mycologymasters.com/_mypictures/forums/opio/tmp/boomboom.jpg
Image is from 2003

Growing Style: PF-TEK (This is what Narkotikon (http://forum.opiophile.org/member.php?u=2778) was talking about. Only he forgot the very very very important ingredient Vermiculite!
http://mycologymasters.com/_mypictures/forums/opio/tmp/Shomze.jpg
Mushrooms Spores are still legal in all but three states, for more info I would check out http://shroomery.org
If you do decide to order spores The Shroomery will help you find a reputable vendor. I'm worried this site don't allow me telling you who my favorite spore vendor was so I'll ZIP my mouth untill I get a green light of some kind
It's simple to grow enough cubes for personal, but if a person was going to start growing commercial get ready for years and years of Studying Mycology to get flushes worth your time. So don't for a second think you can just make up your mind and then go into businessmen growing LB's of cubes for wholesale over night because it's easy to grow an OZ or less. Scaling the operation up is a fucking process. Unlike with cannabis a tough fast rebounding turn-key growing operation (at least easily can be) mushrooms don't grow them selves. Half of the work you do. With weed you do maybe 10 - 20% of the work and 20% is a high estimate.
Don't do stupid shit! and remember... If you tell one person and they tell one person, fucking trust me the cops will be knocking.

This is what a Friend of a Friends mushroom setup looked like a few years ago. He was pulling out 1/4lbs dry every 7 - 14 days

http://mycologymasters.com/_mypictures/forums/opio/tmp/clTOP.jpg

http://mycologymasters.com/_mypictures/forums/opio/tmp/cl1.jpg

The last time I ate Shrooms was to go see The Dark Knight and I had a blast. I think that will be the last time I do Shrooms because I burnt myself out on them. Man did I eat a lot of Shrooms

But from what I hear indoor growing on a large scale is done more in the winter because in the spring all a person has to do to grow 5,000 to 10,000 worth of felonies (it is legal in some parts of the world to grow CUBES so check your local laws) is digg into a nice location, add unpasturized straw & aged Horse manure (cow poo sucks, they have all those stomacs and that makes for a shitty muddy shroom growing medium) See indoors growing bulk you must pasturize poo & straw and thats a fucking pain.

I'm really starting to WD bad so im done.