Anyone else a green thumb?

[oxyjon]

I've been a long time gardener as far as mj. But recently me and my wife have a new found hobby in plants. From carnations, tomatoes, onions, marigolds, poppies, you name it. I love growing these magnificent plants from seeds. We have an indoor setup with 2 400 watt high pressure sodiums and 2 400 watt metal halides. Of course the flowers and veggies are outside. And only the prize specimens are in the grow room. I find that growing these seems to reduce stress and just plain out makes us feel good. 1 thing me and the old lady really have in common, besides our love for opiates. I was just wondering if anyone else had this hobby and knows what I'm talking about?

[tch2296]

I've been a long time gardener as far as mj. But recently me and my wife have a new found hobby in plants. From carnations, tomatoes, onions, marigolds, poppies, you name it. I love growing these magnificent plants from seeds. We have an indoor setup with 2 400 watt high pressure sodiums and 2 400 watt metal halides. Of course the flowers and veggies are outside. And only the prize specimens are in the grow room. I find that growing these seems to reduce stress and just plain out makes us feel good. 1 thing me and the old lady really have in common, besides our love for opiates. I was just wondering if anyone else had this hobby and knows what I'm talking about?

Hell yeah, man. Here's some of my pictures of my first harvest, it came out extremely good, especially since it was my first time. The yield wasn't all that great, about a half pound total from all 8 plants, but the last harvest was even better, we got almost a pound because we chose only one strain (granddaddy purps). I even made some cash selling it to cannabis clubs (I was in California at the time).
I really loved everything about it also, it did help me relieve stress, it became a very enjoyable (and rewarding :cool:) hobby, I still love it.

Since I was in California, I did not have to worry about germinating seeds, because I just went into a cannabis club and purchased the plant when it was already a foot tall. Later we got good at cloning, and produced a full batch of our favorite plant from the first harvest (granddaddy purps).

So are you growing organic or hydro? Glad to hear there's another green thumb around here. I don't even smoke weed very often anymore, but I love growing it and smoking my own shit, it is very satisfying.
Heres the pics of my first crop, and some pics of the granddaddy we grew the second time around. Check out the album. Also check my other album to see the amazing smack I've been enjoying.

http://forum.opiophile.org/album.php?albumid=139

Marijuana is a thing of beauty.:cool:

[Nonphixion]

I love growing, i think it peaceful and fulfilling... tch^^, you said it best marijuana is a thing of beauty...

[pinn3d]

I grew MJ in northern cali for a year, but other than that I don't have much gardening experience..... I would love to have my own garden eventually though.... and not just for pot.... I would grow different herbs and edible plants..... I think it would be cool to be making my own herbal teas and eating my own veggies and stuff......

[tch2296]

I grew MJ in northern cali for a year, but other than that I don't have much gardening experience..... I would love to have my own garden eventually though.... and not just for pot.... I would grow different herbs and edible plants..... I think it would be cool to be making my own herbal teas and eating my own veggies and stuff......

Yeah, even though I was growing only cannabis, it really became an enjoyable habit, I looked forward to checking the plants, makin' sure the drip is working right, checking pH, all that shit. It is so satisfying to see the plant develop from a little seedling to a mature plant.

We split our colas so each plant had 2 main colas with fat buds all the way up.

[Papa Verine]

I have to reply to this one.

I LOVE gardening/growing. I grew Cannabis for years outdoors around here. The last year I grew I set up huge pots on tables in the middle of a wetland/swamp. I'd put on my old boots and pants and walk out there in the middle of the night to tend to my babies. It was WAY too much work but I love growing so much and was tired of my gardens getting found or eaten by deer or whatever... That last one in the swamp was never found. Nobody in their right mind would've been walking around out there!

I started growing poppies the past couple years too and I love it even more I think. I love the way you get to harvest in early summer as opposed to having to wait until October. And I find poppies very easy to grow with some common knowledge and common sense. I drink PST so I keep the seeds which make the most potent tea and plent them. It a great way to test the potency.

I've been growing vegetables, fruits, ornamentals for years too. I had my first garden when I was only 10 or 11.

I'm with you 100% on this one...

[tch2296]

I started growing poppies the past couple years too and I love it even more I think. I love the way you get to harvest in early summer as opposed to having to wait until October. And I find poppies very easy to grow with some common knowledge and common sense. I drink PST so I keep the seeds which make the most potent tea and plent them. It a great way to test the potency.

I've been growing vegetables, fruits, ornamentals for years too. I had my first garden when I was only 10 or 11.

I'm with you 100% on this one...

That is awesome, what kind of conditions do poppies require?

Is it as easy to grow as cannabis?

Can it be grown hydroponically without too much of a hastle?

Also, can you just order poppies seeds online? And are there different strains of papaver somniferum?

Sorry for all the questions, you have really piqued my interest in poppies now...I would be SO happy to grow my own!

[Papa Verine]

That is awesome, what kind of conditions do poppies require?

Is it as easy to grow as cannabis?

Can it be grown hydroponically without too much of a hastle?

Also, can you just order poppies seeds online? And are there different strains of papaver somniferum?

Sorry for all the questions, you have really piqued my interest in poppies now...I would be SO happy to grow my own!

I plant right at the end of winter but the healthiest youngsters are the ones that pop up from seeds scattered the previous fall. It doesn't seem like it would make any difference but I'll have these plants around my yard in the sping that are much bigger then the ones I plant end of winter from emptying my seeds in the yard after washing them.

Anyway, loose, rich, well-drained soil, lots of added nutrients, cool weather and lots and lots of sun. Don't try to transplant them, plant where you're going to grow. I wouldn't try growing indoors because you need lots of space as one plant is just enough to get a buzz. They're nothing like Cannabis that will yield so much product per plant. That's really all you need. If you have a green thumb you should do OK. In the summer when it gets real hot for long periods of time they will die off. Most of the varieties I've grown produced multiple pods/flowers per plant. The first ones to bolt up were always the biggest and they'd get smaller as time went on. I cut the pods off at about 18 days after the petals fall off unless it's raining. After a big rain/watering the opium that comes out of the plants looks watered down and less concentrated. (Go figure) I also use the entire plant as it seems opium will ooze out of anywhere you cut into the plant. I usually just eat them fresh. They taste like poison but I've noticed no ill effects, Just the expected...

You can order seeds online. I never bothered as it seems the ones I use for tea are excellent for growing.

[Raz]

Looks like da cannabis forum was a good call.....

My ladies are just flowering and since i dont drink so much nowdays i'm takin way more care of em...

This has been an autumn/ winter plant as i have untold seeds...Info i have says much better chance of ya babies bein femanine if you plant in damp.cold humid conditions....I got 10 ladies dat i know off..

the unsexed ones are upstairs...they will either get chucked (male) or be put wiv ma ova girls if female..

I'll post some pics further down da line...

can anyone tell me if i can trick the buds into keep on flowering ,or will the trichomes decide when i have to harvest...??
I;m finkin when da clocks go forward, just cover em up wiv black bags...Will they keep on flowering?

As i'm lookin to keep a continual harvest goin,mth in mth out...

[pinn3d]

Yeah, even though I was growing only cannabis, it really became an enjoyable habit, I looked forward to checking the plants, makin' sure the drip is working right, checking pH, all that shit. It is so satisfying to see the plant develop from a little seedling to a mature plant.

We split our colas so each plant had 2 main colas with fat buds all the way up.
Nice--- yeah it was real satisfying working with the plants---- I helped out lots of friends who grew as well--- for the most part we worked with 3 strains.... Master Kush, Lavender( Purple Erckle), and Snow Cap---- It was real interesting seeing how these different strains grow differently..... like the snow cap was a huge yielder, and didn;t require any bending, and not much trimming... but it was a lower quality weed, and didn't sell for much....

while the master kush for example required painstaking maintenance---- lots of bending, lots of under-trimming--- but that shit sold for top dollar, and was AMAZING to smoke--- The lavender had the best taste, though, IMO----- I also knew lots of other growers and we'd all share our harvests---- it was so nice having tons of free weed---- now i live in fucking FL and have to be conservative with my ganj as prices are ridiculous----I 'd love to head out west again someday---- Get another medical card and get back into growing....

Did you guys bend? It seemed to be the most crucial aspect for us, as it increased the tops, and kept the plants low, and shrubby, making a beautiful cannopy by the time harvest came around----- we'd get so many tops that the plants would be falling over and shit---- we had to tie them up with strings ---- putting on those white painters suits and crawling around in the rooms----

ahhhh--- memories----- makes me miss growing man......

[pinn3d]

(I dunno why it double posted my last post---- only hit submit once.... sorry....)

[Papa Verine]

Hey Raz,

Indoors, you can keep a plant alive for a long time. I'm pretty sure you can set the light cycle to 12-on, 12-off until your buds are mature, trim off the buds and then switch back to a longer light cycle again to start vegetative growth again, and so-on and so-on. The plants outside are going to flower when the days get shorter and grow vegetatively when the days are longer.

I'm sorry I haven't closely followed your Cannabis garden. Can you explain exactly what your plants are doing? Are you starting them inside and moving them outside? Aren't the days getting longer??? If you're going into Spring and the days are getting longer your plants are not going to flower properly outside. Backwards. They start resorting back to vegetative growth (leaf/stem growth) when sunlight passes 12 hours a day. Naturally, bud production begins in the end of the summer when daylight approaches 12 hours a day.

It's all about the amount of light they get.

[Raz]

Hey Raz,

Indoors, you can keep a plant alive for a long time. I'm pretty sure you can set the light cycle to 12-on, 12-off until your buds are mature, trim off the buds and then switch back to a longer light cycle again to start vegetative growth again, and so-on and so-on. The plants outside are going to flower when the days get shorter and grow vegetatively when the days are longer.

I'm sorry I haven't closely followed your Cannabis garden. Can you explain exactly what your plants are doing? Are you starting them inside and moving them outside? Aren't the days getting longer??? If you're going into Spring and the days are getting longer your plants are not going to flower properly outside. Backwards. They start resorting back to vegetative growth (leaf/stem growth) when sunlight passes 12 hours a day. Naturally, bud production begins in the end of the summer when daylight approaches 12 hours a day.

It's all about the amount of light they get.

Awite amigo...Ma plants are buddin coz i started em off last autumn/winter....They got about six weeks of natural buddin light left.(they are outside)..
So wat i need to know is dis bro....When the clocks go forward,will i be able to cover em wiv black bags, so the plants think its winter time(daylight hrs) and trick em into keep buddin...Or will they trichomes decide when i have to harvest?...No matter wat happens wiv daylight hrs?

Hope you understand dis one bro?...If not i'll explain it better....Plants are outside and flowering, soon the clocks go forward, so i'm thinkin they will revert back to vegative growth, but wat if i cover em wiv black bags to keep the winter daylight hrs?....Will they still keep budding,or will trichomes say "harvest"?

[oxyjon]

Awite amigo...Ma plants are buddin coz i started em off last autumn/winter....They got about six weeks of natural buddin light left.(they are outside)..
So wat i need to know is dis bro....When the clocks go forward,will i be able to cover em wiv black bags, so the plants think its winter time(daylight hrs) and trick em into keep buddin...Or will they trichomes decide when i have to harvest?...No matter wat happens wiv daylight hrs?

Hope you understand dis one bro?...If not i'll explain it better....Plants are outside and flowering, soon the clocks go forward, so i'm thinkin they will revert back to vegative growth, but wat if i cover em wiv black bags to keep the winter daylight hrs?....Will they still keep budding,or will trichomes say "harvest"?

No, they will keep budding if you cover them good an hour or two before it gets dark. If they have 6 weeks left, you need to do that or they will go back into vegatative growth. Therefore, the trichs will never turn amber and be ready to harvest. I hope they finish right for you.

Im glad to see so many of us are gardeners. Not just mj but are own veggies and flowers and poppies. Its great.

[Papa Verine]

Yeah, you can cover them. Funny thing is this... When growing outdoors there's still light at night. There's moonlight if nothing else. Yet, the plants still seem to bud just fine. When growing indoors and "tricking" the plants into the flower stage you have to be careful not to let any light at all get in. It has to be pitch black or the buds will be loose and shitty. So, just to be on the safe-side I would say to cover them so they get exactly 12 hours of light every day and make sure there's no light getting in. This way you'll be sure to get good buds. You have to be consistent. Cover off at 7am, cover on at 7pm every day until they're ready. (It doesn't have to be 7, that was just an example)

That'll work for sure.

[oxyjon]

I agree with Papa. And indoors, even the smallest ray of light will cause a female to have male flowers. They're real light sensitive.

[tch2296]

Nice--- yeah it was real satisfying working with the plants---- I helped out lots of friends who grew as well--- for the most part we worked with 3 strains.... Master Kush, Lavender( Purple Erckle), and Snow Cap---- It was real interesting seeing how these different strains grow differently..... like the snow cap was a huge yielder, and didn;t require any bending, and not much trimming... but it was a lower quality weed, and didn't sell for much....

while the master kush for example required painstaking maintenance---- lots of bending, lots of under-trimming--- but that shit sold for top dollar, and was AMAZING to smoke--- The lavender had the best taste, though, IMO----- I also knew lots of other growers and we'd all share our harvests---- it was so nice having tons of free weed---- now i live in fucking FL and have to be conservative with my ganj as prices are ridiculous----I 'd love to head out west again someday---- Get another medical card and get back into growing....

Did you guys bend? It seemed to be the most crucial aspect for us, as it increased the tops, and kept the plants low, and shrubby, making a beautiful cannopy by the time harvest came around----- we'd get so many tops that the plants would be falling over and shit---- we had to tie them up with strings ---- putting on those white painters suits and crawling around in the rooms----

ahhhh--- memories----- makes me miss growing man......

Yeah, we had 2 Snowcap plants in the first garden, they were among the highest yielding plants we had, and matured faster than the other plants. Although the yield was high, the buds weren't quite as healthy and dank as the other plants, they had very little density. It was a great sativa-type head high though.

It being our first time, we made the mistake of choosing like 5 different strains and growing them all under the same light. The problem is that some of the plants went faster than the others, like the granddaddy purps (in the pictures in my album) would have yielded a lot more, but we had to switch to 12/12 because the snowcap and blueberry were getting too big for the setup, so we needed to start them flowering.

On our second time, we used all Granddaddy Purps, all cloned from the same mother plant. This worked out MUCH better, since the plants matured at the same rate. It took a bit longer, but it was well worth it.

Another plant that took forever to grow was Strawberry Cough, we got very little off of that plant, it was still tiny compared to the rest when we switched to 12/12.

The Granddaddy Purps was easily some of the nicest weed I've ever smoked, it tasted AMAZING, the buds were beautiful, and it was extremely potent (although quite sedating, it was a heavy indica)

[poonwhalla]

I love to garden all kinds of stuff. I have done a few different hydro experiments with great success. When I was in Humboldt county I lived in a double wide trailer and broke down the closet in the master bedroom to make a hydro table. I basically made a hydro set up out of all found parts It held either 40 or 50 5" square pots with expanded clay pellets in them, for a sea of green type of grow. The pots sat perfectly in gutters that I found in a garbage pile on the land I lived on. Since it was Humboldt Co. there was plenty of irrigation tubing at my disposal to so that fed all the planters on the table that was on an incline. The water was pumped by a 700 gallons per min pool pump in a tote. The water dripped back in to the reservoir (a tote) so fast it was like a water fall. The water breaking up like that created a natural ozone which humidified the room also. The water was monitored with a ppm pen to fert. I did the organic hydro once but it was too much of a pain in the ass to keep the system clean so I stuck to pots and the ground with the organic gardening.

The way the room was ventilated was with the swamp cooler that was on the roof of the trailer. I used thick black plastic landscaping sheets that was duck taped and ported down the hall to the room. It was a fucking room that I lived well off of for a few years with until the tweakers in town came in and drove me and my buddy out @ gun point, fucking tweakers. The lighting was 2 1000 hps bulbs and 1 400 halide. The small bedroom was the veg room with a bunch of florescent bulbs.

I also have done a lot of different compost experiments too and raised red blood worms for the castings that was sold and also made into tea. Some of the strains that I grew were NL 5, big bud, Hawaiian mawi mist, silver haze, pure Afghani, super skunk, Blueberry, mighty might (not that potent but quick harvest and low height so it was good for outdoor gurilla style), Alaskan thunderfuck and a pure sativa. Man I miss those days. Oh yeah I have grown all kinds of flowers, veggies, poppies, ect...

[Papa Verine]

Wow poon, that's awesome. Doesn't it fuckin suck now when you need some weed and have to pay for it??? It took me a long time to get over that. Because I really don't grow anymore. It's just such an injustice having to pay $20 for a little gram of weed when I used to have all that bud. Oh, it hurts...

[Raz]

fanks for your advice guys......

I'll post some pics when the buds are fat....

I have that jorge cervantes growers bible,so i'm learnin shit everyday....But covering em up 7pm and uncover 7am sounds fine to me...I'm always up at 6am...so dats no problem, right now i'm smokin hash,which i pay for (€50 for 30g)....But i is lookin forward to gettin blasted on some free weed....Well not free, but super fuckin cheap...

I got all different kinda strains..I fink some AK47, and fuck knows wat else....I came into a lotta seeds that will keep me tokin for a few yrs...

[superman]

I absolutely LOVE growing plants of all kinds, it's just such a rewarding experience to watch how each and every tweak to the hydroponic formulation and environmental conditions makes or breaks the health of the plant.

I used to love sharing info on www.overgrow.com where i would connect via a very secure method to avoid being busted. i would use tor, and another piece of software, i wish i could remember which...

I sure do miss overgrow... i had some awesome pics on there but unfortunately lost my own copies. shortly after the site was raided and my pics were lost forever...

I would like the idea of a cannabis growing forum here, except that i would be too paranoid to post anything detailed or incriminating on it about my past experiences, even though I currently do not grow pot. perhaps if the forum become a reality though, i might make an alternate alias to use specifically for that forum, and use it only under the strictest of security.

back on overgrow i wrote an extensive article on how to properly ensure complete security and protection from snooping LEO's (law enforcement officers). i think that perhaps it is time for me to brush back up on these skills and re-write the article for this site :)

[KiloByte]

I absolutely LOVE growing plants of all kinds, it's just such a rewarding experience to watch how each and every tweak to the hydroponic formulation and environmental conditions makes or breaks the health of the plant.

I used to love sharing info on www.overgrow.com (http://www.overgrow.com) where i would connect via a very secure method to avoid being busted. i would use tor, and another piece of software, i wish i could remember which...

I sure do miss overgrow... i had some awesome pics on there but unfortunately lost my own copies. shortly after the site was raided and my pics were lost forever...

I would like the idea of a cannabis growing forum here, except that i would be too paranoid to post anything detailed or incriminating on it about my past experiences, even though I currently do not grow pot. perhaps if the forum become a reality though, i might make an alternate alias to use specifically for that forum, and use it only under the strictest of security.

back on overgrow i wrote an extensive article on how to properly ensure complete security and protection from snooping LEO's (law enforcement officers). i think that perhaps it is time for me to brush back up on these skills and re-write the article for this site :)

Oh man Overgrow, I fucking loved that forum. Have yet to find a growing forum with as much information and professionalism. It was like the Opiophile for potheads.

[Raz]

^^^^ Yeah even Jorge Cervantes says overgrow.com was da dogs bolloxs when it comes to info re da herb....

[superman]

Never have i felt loss so deeply in my heart with regard to computers as when overgrow and the hive went down. it literally felt like i had lost a beloved family member when each of these site went... almost worse even because given the nature of the sites i couldn't even reveal my usernames to anyone or even talk about the loss due to security concerns... and this made it all the more painfull.

It must have been a good 4 months after the hive went that I was severely depressed, always wondering which of my friends were now rotting in jail... mourning the tragic loss of information.. the countless thousands of hours of data collection all gone to waste.

I hope the owners of opiophile have learned from these most tragic lessons. It does seem like they have, I love that we have no PM features, and that we ban people at the slightest hint of using the site in a dangerous way. these steps will be very helpfull, but really, as I told the owners of both the hive and overgrow, the only real way to unsure the forum does not get lost forever, is to share the complete database with several trustworthy individuals so that in the event that the site has been down for a year or more, they are able to release the archived database to the public.

unfortunately the owners of both sites above were to selfish and greedy to heed my words, and now the information rests in the hands of only a few selfish souls who have no interest in sharing it.


Therefore, I volunteer to hold a copy of the site, kept under the protection of a 1344bit triple blowfish encryption algorythm to be decrypted only if the website has been missing for more than a period of one year. I would hate to see another beloved database be lost forever, such crimes should never be allowed to happen.