tylanol 4s

[Matty Fats 420]

how much codine is actually in a tylanol 4?? i just got like 20 of them and was wondering the best way to take them and how mant to take to get really messed up! =]

[nikz]

think it's 60mgs...depends on what you are used to..
N

[Matty Fats 420]

thats 60mg per pill?

[nikz]

I believe so..T3 has 30...and T4 has 60..consult PDR
Nikz

[satori]

Yea they have 60m per pill

[Matty Fats 420]

ok so whats the best way to take them? chew them? or is there any other ways to do it that would get me more F'ed up =]

[nikz]

I use CWE ..to remove apap..but that's my thing

[Phluck]

Just swallow them. They're instant release, chewing them isn't necessary.

[Matty Fats 420]

if you dont mind can you explain how to do that to me so i can do it? i have 20 of them

[HistoryofMadness]

Unless you have hundreds of them, I wouldn't get too worried about acet...

300 mg acet and 60 mgs codeine per...

Fuck it, chew 'em up.

Just don't make a habit of megadosing tylenol, as if anyone here needed to be reminded.

[nikz]

ah long island...same place..just look for CWE...it's not more potent, it just removes the
apap..you're liver and kidneys will thank.
Nikz

[Matty Fats 420]

yeah im sure they will N, thanks man. so your from long island too??

[HistoryofMadness]

ah long island...same place..just look for CWE...it's not more potent, it just removes the
apap..you're liver and kidneys will thank.
Nikz

A six pack of beer is worse on your kidneys than 20 fucking tylenol 4's. CWE is too much trouble unless you have a huge tolerance and plan to eat them all at once. That I do not recommend.

Try 3 at a time, and wait about 30 mins. Maybe eat a couple more if you really think you need to. Eating much more will likely make you vomit anyway, just from the codeine. Its the side effect that drove the creation of hydrocodone.

Really man, just eat 'em.

-H

[Matty Fats 420]

haha ok thanks madness im takin 3 right now ill keep everyone posted on how bent i am
=]

[nikz]

yeah, long island...too much rain recently..but my plants love it.... love being so close the NYC...
true if it's a one time deal with acap..but i've used for years...so I take caution
N

[nikz]

ah.. just outside the city limits...luv the city, but luv grass under my feet..Garden City..23
minutes away
Nidz

[HistoryofMadness]

true if it's a one time deal with acap..but i've used for years...so I take caution

No doubt. I met a guy once that had been chewing up that shit for years, in hydro, t3's and t4's, syrup, etc. Anyway, his liver had started to swell, and I think it was cutting off blood flow or something. His legs started swelling and he started turning yellow.

And he wasn't even a drinker. Of course he was also a shooter so hep c may have been playing a part. Either way he was fucked after that. Sick all the time.

Good for you for being careful.

Oh yeah, and lay off the booze Matty, you'll surely get sick.

-H

[Matty Fats 420]

yeah nicz im from valley stream, its really nice to be so close to the city=] i private messages you before get back at me i have to ask you something if its ok

[nikz]

sure..get in touch..you're not far away
Nikz

[Matty Fats 420]

aight NikZ send me a private message and we'll hook up, just moved into the area last year still tryin to get things together =] thanks =]

[Phluck]

A six pack of beer is worse on your kidneys than 20 fucking tylenol 4's. CWE is too much trouble unless you have a huge tolerance and plan to eat them all at once. That I do not recommend.

Try 3 at a time, and wait about 30 mins. Maybe eat a couple more if you really think you need to. Eating much more will likely make you vomit anyway, just from the codeine. Its the side effect that drove the creation of hydrocodone.

Really man, just eat 'em.

-H

I don't know about that... when I take ~12+ Tylenols in a day, I start to get a lot of pain and nausea the next day. I try not to do that anymore. However, T4's are strong enough that you're not likely going to have to take a ton of them. Codeine reaches a saturation point at around 400mg where dosing more won't really help you out much more.

I've never seen anyone get Tylenol 4's... the T3's seem to be the standard thing most people get for minor surgery or dental stuff. Either that or Percocets, but maybe they're being given out to people with more regular prescriptions to the T3's who are developing tolerance. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on some, codeine isn't as shitty as a lot of people make it out to be, it's just difficult to get in a pure enough form to be worthwhile.

I use codeine extracted from the OTC 325mg aspirin + 8mg codeine + 15mg caffeine. The cold water extraction is a hell of a lot better with the aspirin than with the apap, but I'm still left with all that caffeine, so while I can end the agony of WDing, getting to sleep can still be a bitch. Someone once told me I could separate the codeine and caffeine with chloroform... but I'd rather not play around with something so toxic.

[Ickyuck]

One t4 suggestion: Ingest those little fuckers on an EMPTY stomach. I like to call that time "Peak Plasma Level"; obviously, your body will work with the chemicals a lot faster than if you were to imbibe after, say, a Big Mac. Crunch on them as if they were altoids. Tastes nast', but drink some soda or smoke a fag and the aftertaste fades.

As far as dosing, I'm about 160 LBS (Oh the shame!) and use them about once a week, more or less, for a good warm gutted high. My high varies, of course it depends on consumption frequency. I like to stick with 3 or 4 per dose. Sometimes 2 does the trick. But there has been times where I have taken 4 and ended up lethargic and gross. If i take it too often in a week, say dose once a day for 2 days in a row, the high decreases to about a 15 minute total disappointment. Don't over-do it, because tolerence buildup with this shit is pretty quick. Also, I don't recommend drinking alcohol nor smoking pot- it fucks with the natural high.

Shit, I haven't dosed in over 2 weeks. Note to self: Bring some antihistamine.

[shaunclo]

One t4 suggestion: Ingest those little fuckers on an EMPTY stomach. I like to call that time "Peak Plasma Level"; obviously, your body will work with the chemicals a lot faster than if you were to imbibe after, say, a Big Mac. Crunch on them as if they were altoids. Tastes nast', but drink some soda or smoke a fag and the aftertaste fades.

As far as dosing, I'm about 160 LBS (Oh the shame!) and use them about once a week, more or less, for a good warm gutted high. My high varies, of course it depends on consumption frequency. I like to stick with 3 or 4 per dose. Sometimes 2 does the trick. But there has been times where I have taken 4 and ended up lethargic and gross. If i take it too often in a week, say dose once a day for 2 days in a row, the high decreases to about a 15 minute total disappointment. Don't over-do it, because tolerence buildup with this shit is pretty quick. Also, I don't recommend drinking alcohol nor smoking pot- it fucks with the natural high.

Shit, I haven't dosed in over 2 weeks. Note to self: Bring some antihistamine.

Wow, just reading Ickyuck's post here makes me seriously realize how far over the edge I have gotten. I do remember the days where codeine was something to look forward to, now I wouldnt even stock up on em even if I had the chance.

[exitwound]

Wow, just reading Ickyuck's post here makes me seriously realize how far over the edge I have gotten. I do remember the days where codeine was something to look forward to, now I wouldnt even stock up on em even if I had the chance.

I noticed much the same thing, although honestly if they were very inexpensive or free I'd absolutely stock up. One never knows what the future will bring!

[shaunclo]

I noticed much the same thing, although honestly if they were very inexpensive or free I'd absolutely stock up. One never knows what the future will bring!

EW, I remember (when I was habitually using tar, like 3 grams a day!) and I was out and my dealer was out, or so he said, I chewed up a 100mg MScontin and was expecting relief, 1 hour passed, 2 hours passed, nothing. The thing about H is once you get past a certain point, not even 100mg of morphine would help. I downed maybe 15 5/500 vic's too and all it did was make me sick and pass out for a 1/2 hour. When I woke up I was even worse into w/d's. The only thing that got me relief was.......yup, you guessed it!! MORE TAR!!

[exitwound]

honestly for someone with a high tolerance to even higher-priority receptor binding opiates (oxy, fentanyl, dilaudid, diacetylmorphine, etc), 100mg of mscontin isn't much. 120-150mg would be, i would think, a starting point if you were chewing it, and closer to 200mg+ if you're swallowing it whole.

All that APAP and fillers and binders in those 5/500's you took probably didn't help either. A cold water wash would have at least helped cut down on that.

Still, as you say, it's hard to prevent WD's using less powerful opiates, especially if the dosage equivalents don't come anywhere near matching up.

[Ickyuck]

Heh I remember this post. I feel like a baby compared to everyone! But strangely, I still get high on three of them IF I haven't dosed in weeks. Now I usually just take about eight of them. Oh and that shite is free for me. Bah, like I'd pay!!!

[jwalm]

http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=1808984


a nice pile :D of t 4s

[OpiBli$$1988]

I kinda disagree w/ ickyucks pos on how weed n alcohol take away from the opi high...weed for me is GREAT when on opies, totally enhances the buzz. Same applys to cigs, for me once i smoke one i instantly start feelin the codeine. Also grapefruit juice will make em more potent. And as for alcohol, ive never been REALLLY drunk n taken opiates but i sometimes take a shot or 2 of hard licker and feel the opi buzz is stronger...thats just me tho...and be VERY careful if you do drink, you could go into resperitory depression (sp?) so i wouldnt recommend it. but ya try some weed n ull most likly love the combo...have fun, and dont waste your codiene on a cwe if your keeping your apap levels below 4000mgs. Stay safe :)

EDIT: DAMN ^^that pics makin my mouth water :drool:

[Ickyuck]

I kinda disagree w/ ickyucks pos on how weed n alcohol take away from the opi high...weed for me is GREAT when on opies, totally enhances the buzz. Same applys to cigs, for me once i smoke one i instantly start feelin the codeine. Also grapefruit juice will make em more potent. And as for alcohol, ive never been REALLLY drunk n taken opiates but i sometimes take a shot or 2 of hard licker and feel the opi buzz is stronger...thats just me tho...and be VERY careful if you do drink, you could go into resperitory depression (sp?) so i wouldnt recommend it. but ya try some weed n ull most likly love the combo...have fun, and dont waste your codiene on a cwe if your keeping your apap levels below 4000mgs. Stay safe :)

It must be my weird chemistry, Opi. Alcohol totally doesn't enhance diddly with my t4 consumption. Last time I did it, I had a handfull, took them, and was totally knacker'd. Went to a bar with some friends, and had some wine... and felt sober! Go fig.
Pot also messes my quality time with codeine, but for some reason enhances my percocet time.

[Duckfeet]

I kinda disagree w/ ickyucks pos on how weed n alcohol take away from the opi high...weed for me is GREAT when on opies, totally enhances the buzz. Same applys to cigs, for me once i smoke one i instantly start feelin the codeine. Also grapefruit juice will make em more potent. And as for alcohol, ive never been REALLLY drunk n taken opiates but i sometimes take a shot or 2 of hard licker and feel the opi buzz is stronger...thats just me tho...and be VERY careful if you do drink, you could go into resperitory depression (sp?) so i wouldnt recommend it. but ya try some weed n ull most likly love the combo...have fun, and dont waste your codiene on a cwe if your keeping your apap levels below 4000mgs. Stay safe :)

EDIT: DAMN ^^that pics makin my mouth water :drool:

I was a serious pothead, but something happened after I got strung out first time on smack. I noticed other people too often had same thing. Where after we got good opiate habit going, just didn't want pot that much anymore. I had all kinds of theories. but who knows.

I always liked a beer anyway, but it didn't matter quite as much, once I started to fix, a sixpack lasted me a lot longer. but I know I *always* liked a little alcohol w/pain pills. Seemed like a beer mixed w/pills always made'em kick in more.

I know codeine gets a bad rap. But for hangin around in a bar, friday night, a couple of t4's made the beer taste a lot better, I felt a lot better, what the fuck...back in the day, in Orange County, seems like the heroin addicts looked down on the juicers. They liked to sit around and nod. Not me, I wanted to go out, shoot some pool, flirt w/the girls. Fuck, life's going by, who wants to sit around? Same thing in the army. Seems like the heroin addicts always felt superior to everybody else. Fuck that, I'd do some heroin, then go drink, party, play country music on the juke box just to piss off the wannabe intellectuals...fuck it...

"My red
neck, my white socks, and Blue Ribbon Beer..."

Duckfeet
getting all nostalgic for misspent youth \ ;-)

[OpiBli$$1988]

lol ^^ . I dont kno what u meant bout a 6 pack lastin you longer but im assumin you mean the H made it harder to get licker'd up. If thats what u meant im in the same boat right now, havin to drink almost twice as much now to get drunk (seems liek my tolerence for alco shot way up)...Well fuck i didnt do the 2nd apap wash so i wouldnt fuck up my liver but now that im drinkin instead of opies my kidneys hurt LOL. Ya weeds high has changed for me too, when i first started out it was almost magical, like i step'd into a whole new world...but now the highs just aint the same. We take for granted most things in life, till their gone :( . Shame

nostalgic wtf is that, now ima have to hit up wikpedia lol, i dont think you rele had a "mispent youth", from all the storys ive seen you post..well i love read'n em...n some of em were good some bad thangs that happend but to me it sounds like you've lived life an enjoyed it...who knos im just rambling and mind you this is coming from a 18 yr old punk whos wasted most of the time on here lol/.

[Duckfeet]

lol ^^ . I dont kno what u meant bout a 6 pack lastin you longer but im assumin you mean the H made it harder to get licker'd up. If thats what u meant im in the same boat right now, havin to drink almost twice as much now to get drunk (seems liek my tolerence for alco shot way up)...Well fuck i didnt do the 2nd apap wash so i wouldnt fuck up my liver but now that im drinkin instead of opies my kidneys hurt LOL. Ya weeds high has changed for me too, when i first started out it was almost magical, like i step'd into a whole new world...but now the highs just aint the same. We take for granted most things in life, till their gone :( . Shame

nostalgic wtf is that, now ima have to hit up wikpedia lol, i dont think you rele had a "mispent youth", from all the storys ive seen you post..well i love read'n em...n some of em were good some bad thangs that happend but to me it sounds like you've lived life an enjoyed it...who knos im just rambling and mind you this is coming from a 18 yr old punk whos wasted most of the time on here lol/.

Nah, you're right. I look at guys around me who "follwed the rules," and I'm glad I didn't do that. Seemed boring, and like they never tried to check out the world, adventure, travel, shit like that...On the other hand, a little moderation...I mean, you gotta *survive*, little brother! Do the James Dean thing, and check out early, and usually nobody even remembers your name...Find your own path in this world, think for yourself, enjoy your spin. But try to avoid the shit that is irrevocable, if you know what I mean.

Like I said in another post, I was out bodysurfing today, a good friend, nineteen, around your age. And he had a bad methamphetamine habit, but he got off it, and now his passion is getting out there in big surf...he wants to work as veternary assistant, does volunteer work for humane society. Like you, spunky and irreverant and a little crazy, and always wanting to try different things. that's *good*...so find some dreams like sailing around the world, or hang out in Barcelona for a year, or join the peace corps and go to Africa, write bad poetry for beautiful women, bodysurf the Wedge in Newpoort Beach...just please don't throw all your eggs in the "being a junky" basket...that's the only thing I worry about you sometimes, is that this thing can seem cooler than it really is, and take over everything else, and be the *only* thing that drives you. then it's not cool. My passion for the ocean has sustained me when my heroin addiction has at times made life not worth living. Can be a real downer. To be broke and kicking, and all the good times behind you...

But I see *some* sanity in your posts, so I know there's hope for you. I want to hear you took off and started a nudist colony down in Tierra del Fuego, or trekked across the Sahara with a one-eyed labrador and a pretty Parisian girl...rather than find out you just did a year in the county jail somewhere for slinging dope... :-)

Anybody can be a dopefiend, man... I got plenty of junky friends already...I want to have a friend does something brave and cool and hard!

[jwalm]

I kinda disagree w/ ickyucks pos on how weed n alcohol take away from the opi high...weed for me is GREAT when on opies, totally enhances the buzz. Same applys to cigs, for me once i smoke one i instantly start feelin the codeine. Also grapefruit juice will make em more potent. And as for alcohol, ive never been REALLLY drunk n taken opiates but i sometimes take a shot or 2 of hard licker and feel the opi buzz is stronger...thats just me tho...and be VERY careful if you do drink, you could go into resperitory depression (sp?) so i wouldnt recommend it. but ya try some weed n ull most likly love the combo...have fun, and dont waste your codiene on a cwe if your keeping your apap levels below 4000mgs. Stay safe :)

EDIT: DAMN ^^that pics makin my mouth water :drool:

there was 500 in that picture

about 350 left....:D

[Ickyuck]

As I type, a small handful of these cherubs are in my room ready to be consumed. And this, my favorite beer. (http://www.ratebeer.com/Beer/bush-ambr%E9e-%28scaldis%29/7040/) One thing I love about this board is that it opens me up to either new things or makes me retry things that haven't worked. Right now I'm contemplating washing down that chewed up white sludge with my beer. However, I am out of cigarettes which are like totally mandatory. And I'm still in my PJ's, haven't showered, and look like hell.
Actually, should I even bother after I've been freebasing/ingesting fent for the past two days?:rolleyes:

[applesauce]

Codeine phosphate 50mg tablets (no APAP) are readily available online, lots of places (like Pharmaenergy) stock them. That place has them for about $320 for #180. I have absolutely no idea if that is a good price or not, but it is straight codeine with no crap, so no need for a CWE.

Nearly $2/50mg pill, about the same price as 10mg M tablets typically sell for online, so whichever is worth more I guess.

5 or 6 of the 50mg make SWIM quite pleasantly fuzzy. The same number of the 10mg M tablets give a very different (and much less intense) feeling, so I suppose value could be determined by the route of administration.

[cronosaegis]

I know codeine gets a bad rap. But for hangin around in a bar, friday night, a couple of t4's made the beer taste a lot better, I felt a lot better, what the fuck...back in the day, in Orange County, seems like the heroin addicts looked down on the juicers. They liked to sit around and nod. Not me, I wanted to go out, shoot some pool, flirt w/the girls. Fuck, life's going by, who wants to sit around? Same thing in the army. Seems like the heroin addicts always felt superior to everybody else. Fuck that, I'd do some heroin, then go drink, party, play country music on the juke box just to piss off the wannabe intellectuals...fuck it...


getting all nostalgic for misspent youth \ ;-)


Oh shit. This is still how I'm misspending my youth.

Woops. I'm having a damn fine time of it now.

[OpiBli$$1988]

Pharmaenergy only hands out scripts to europeans only...no?

[applesauce]

I'm in the US, and they shipped to me. The package even came with a European doctor's `script for the 180 codeine pills with my (fake) name on it.

Actually it shipped a lot faster than most IOPs do, and their customer service was excellent. Wish they had more inventory.

[Duckfeet]

Oh shit. This is still how I'm misspending my youth.

Woops. I'm having a damn fine time of it now.

...always worked for me: A pretty girl, a pitcher of beer in front of me, some pain pills in my belly, David Allen Coe blasting on the jukebox, maybe a raggedy old harley out front, motel paid up thru the weekend...shit, did I leave anything out?

[lolleedee]

...always worked for me: A pretty girl, a pitcher of beer in front of me, some pain pills in my belly, David Allen Coe blasting on the jukebox, maybe a raggedy old harley out front, motel paid up thru the weekend...shit, did I leave anything out?

Just add cold pizza and you'd be in heaven!!!!:D

[quest390]

I just got my hands on 2 bottles of tylex cd. (paracetamol:500 codeine 30). How many should i take to be anywhere near a 40mg of oxy?

[cracksinthepavement]

I just got my hands on 2 bottles of tylex cd. (paracetamol:500 codeine 30). How many should i take to be anywhere near a 40mg of oxy?

You will not get anywhere near 40mg oxy. Expecting any simularity is going to be a guaranteed let down.

[covv799ss]

I just got my hands on 2 bottles of tylex cd. (paracetamol:500 codeine 30). How many should i take to be anywhere near a 40mg of oxy?

I have never had regular codeine (dihydrocodeine, but same difference from what I've heard), but with the proportion of APAP/dope in your pills you're going to want to CWE that! I think you'd end up having to take like 300-400mg of that stuff if you're used to taking 40mg of oxy...and like the guy above me said, it won't be nearly as good! :(...

[Sitar]

How in the HELL could anyone chew up a T3 or T4?

I am very tolerant to nasty tasting stuff, but the taste of Codeine makes me wretch more than anything in the world. I actually have trouble just swallowing a Codeine pill because of how bad they taste. I can't imagine trying to chew one.

Again, I am VERY tolerant to things that taste awful, but Codeine is in a league of its own.

[Flagg]

How in the HELL could anyone chew up a T3 or T4?

I am very tolerant to nasty tasting stuff, but the taste of Codeine makes me wretch more than anything in the world. I actually have trouble just swallowing a Codeine pill because of how bad they taste. I can't imagine trying to chew one.

Again, I am VERY tolerant to things that taste awful, but Codeine is in a league of its own.

Well if you've had poppy tea for long periods of time you can down ANYTHING. I've munched T-3's before and they were indeed awful (worse than chewing hydro) but nothing compared to the shit-pellets that are Tramadol.

[Sitar]

Poppy tea tastes like Kool-Aid compared to Codeine. I swear I can barely swallow T3s because of how bad they taste. And Codeine cough syrup.... yuck! Hydro syrup is delicious, though.

[oxymoron]

How in the HELL could anyone chew up a T3 or T4?

I am very tolerant to nasty tasting stuff, but the taste of Codeine makes me wretch more than anything in the world. I actually have trouble just swallowing a Codeine pill because of how bad they taste. I can't imagine trying to chew one.

Again, I am VERY tolerant to things that taste awful, but Codeine is in a league of its own.

I haven't had codeine in a long time, but I'd be willing to bet Somas taste worse. Soma is some NAAASSSTTYY tasing shit. I won't put one in my mouth unless I have something to wash it down with in my other hand:vomit:

[paragoric]

Yeah, Soma's do taste like shit....Talwin taste like all hell, too......The only things that taste good are some of the benzos, like clonazapam and restoril....they both have a sweet taste to them....Restoril (a sedative/hypnotic) taste like powdered sugar in a capsule....pg

[Sitar]

Yeah, Klonopin is sweet and so is Ativan. Xanax is yucky-tasting, though.

Question, though... why is anyone chewing up their Somas? There's no reason to do that.

[Ale]

Just add cold pizza and you'd be in heaven!!!!:D
Cold pizza sux!:(