Venography/ Duplex Ultrasonography

[AnitaFix]

I always wanted a venogram.. imagening this to be a clear map illustrating the ideal points of entry & you know - figuring out the quickest route to get substance A to point B :)

A general overview from wiki, though im certain superior sources exist just too lazy to look now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venogram

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duplex_ultrasonography

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Now, what would be grounds to get the (possibly uncommon/dangerous/exotic) procedure(s)? I can thinnk of a number of things like vericose veins or history of thrombus formation which I've been lucky to avoid by this point.
What about those ailments/concerns for us IDU's? daily injection is bound to at least irritate/scar the tissues if not lead to all sorts of other more serious outcomes.. if anyone has had experience with this please do share, or at least theorise on a plan one may implement to get the doc to sign off on one of these (provided we get to keep a copy of all the prints for the records, but ofcourse).

I recall a user on here mentioning they got some sort of mapping of their veins done, like a lifesized likeness of the person showing all peripheral vessels atleast.. if anyone remembers that post fwd link please.

[firefeind]

it might be easier to simply map out your venous system. we did this in college and it was not too difficult for most. there are some great anatomy books on the subject, such as grey's anatomy(the tv show was named after it). also, since your in the Tdot, you might even check out the grey's anatomy MUSEUM. super cool if body parts preserved in non-stinky jars doesnt freak you out. your supposed to have permission to go in, but no one checked our id as students(carry heavy books, binders, etc, and look smart/tired). maps of the university of toronto cant be too hard to get, i think the museum is in the basement of the med/science building. anyway, i think i remember a specimin of the entire venous system being there, good luck!

[Poppylvr]

I always wanted a venogram.. imagening this to be a clear map illustrating the ideal points of entry & you know - figuring out the quickest route to get substance A to point B :)


AnitaFix - See what firefiend says - check out an anatomy book from the library and make copies. Much easier, less expensive and obnoxious than a medical procedure you don't need.

[losangeleslifer]

I've had the ultrasonography twice. One detected a DVT which sucked big time, and the other was to check for another a few years later.

The utrasound thing wasn't that bad, but why on earth anyone would want to deal with medical procedures for curiosity is beyond me. Be glad you don't need these things done.

[AnitaFix]

vit might be easier to simply map out your venous system. we did this in college and it was not too difficult for most. there are some great anatomy books on the subject, such as grey's anatomy(the tv show was named after it). also, since your in the Tdot, you might even check out the grey's anatomyMUSEUM. super cool if body parts preserved in non-stinky jars doesnt freak you out. your supposed to have permission to go in, but no one checked our id as students(carry heavy books, binders, etc, and look smart/tired). maps of the university of toronto cant be too hard to get, i think the museum is in the basement of the med/science building. anyway, i think i remember a specimin of the entire venous system being there, good luck!

I will be sure to check out this book & try to get into that museum. This reminds me of that corpse exhibit they had with people who donated their bodies to science & basically would be preserved, put on display revealing all the different layers...what was it called now, ah yes -

it was either body worlds (http://www.ontariosciencecentre.ca/media/default.asp?releaseid=887) at the Ontario Science Centre or Bodies The Exhibition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BODIES..._The_Exhibition)

I know my idea sounds silly, considering the possibility of incuring sideffects and so on
nevertheless I have very shitty veins which are already in bad shape & the ones previously
somewhat visible have receded much deeper and/or have become scarred or ceased to be
accessible. I do have some concerns about this and have been planning to discuss this with a doctor
(I know some medicated creams can be handy to break up stuff which may have built up on the interior
due to constant puncture/ prevent scars etc,.) and plan to be pretty honest. I simply thought to inquire here first and maybe if I discover a good alternative I won’t even bring up my request. Some more severe cases then mine I reckon could require this procedure to be done, if not some worse invasive wire-going-into-vein thing like they use to clean out LDL fat buildup for peepz with high cholesterol if memory serves me right.

If it was as simple as following a diagram out of a book I would never consider the above option; my understanding is everyones veins are slightly off. the image below shows a good approximation but these are only the main vessels, hence usually first ones to get hit (so the focus may be on smaller vessels which also means more variantion in branching & depth..after having shot up many people personally ive come to realise no two are alike)

http://www.rsdrx.com/images/vein_arm.gif