Darvocet

[smp]

Having trouble getting hydro, but I found a source for darvocet(Propoxyphene). Has anyone taken the two or know how the compare to each other. Thanks

[Paregoric Kid]

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it's weaker than codeine, stronger than tramadol. if you have no tolerance or you're sick it might work for you. it can potentiate methadone pretty well if you use a large dose, in my experience anyway.

[darkangel]

darvocet is not a very good pill, personaly i couldnt tell they had any real narcotic feel to them i dont think they feel like methadone although i have heard that before, hydrocodone is better

[jacky]

hydrocodone metabolizes into hydromorphone in the liver, like codeine 10% of the population will feel no or very little effects from codeine and hydrocodone due to lack of liver enzyme metabolism. an old junkie told me that "darvocet is to methadone as codeine is to morphine". Darvocet can cause itching and every other symptom of opiate intoxication as with the classic opioids. Darvon is very toxic!! a lethal dose can be as little as 20 pills, for this reason some people choose darvon for euthenasia, due to its comfortable but toxic nature. I have had withdrawl from Darvon after using it for months at a time, the headaches and anxiety were stronger than I would normally suffer. It has been said that only 10% of the population will feel euphoria from opiate intoxication, so I think that statements regarding activity and effect of opiates should be taken with a grain of salt, and take into account the radical nature of the variables of human reaction to substance

[Paregoric Kid]

yeah propoxyphene is only chemically related to methadone, nothing to do with potency similarity, only chemical structure similarity, same class of drug. just like loperamide, meperidine, and mptp are related, that says nothing about their individual effects, only that they are related in their structure, same class.

[doctor diesel]

I had two or three very happy evenings when I took 200mg Darvon (neat, not in compound) together with 200mg Tramadol. The whole thing took off within an hour and was pure joy in the head for at least five hours, followed by blissful sleep.

Trouble is, I've never been able to repeat this outcome, and I don't understand why. Good synergy between those two 'weak' opiates though...


Diesel

[jacky]

I used to notice a dirty shitty feeling after taking darvon that I did not notice with other opioids....seemed like I was getting a cold or something. opioids can have negative or positive effects on immunity to bacteria/viruses maybe. I used to IV darvon pills without acetominephen for relief from heroin withdrawl, a pretty desperate move, the pills are a hassle to push and it doesnt really have a "feel" to it. I geuss when I was IVing heroin I had this perception that the IV push was going to be quicker and more potent, I wonder what type of fillers I ended up putting in my blood?

[Perspect]

Are Darvon propoxyphene hydrochloride? I've done shitloads of Doloxene, Paraflex comp, Distalgesic, Dexofen and other swedish pills and capsules containing dextropropoxyphene. Since it was the first opioid I tried it has a soft spot in my heart, and I actually prefer it over tramadol and codeine, but it still is very shitty. 400 mg added to some other weak opiate could be good for potentiation, but I think it ruins the bliss of better stuff. The problem with the mentioned medications are that they're all napsylate, thus more or less impossible to inject and achieve a good result. They pulled all dxp-hcl containing ones like Dolotard etc off the shelves, except for Distalgesic but it has a huge amount of apap too instead.

Never go above 1000 mg, I did once and my legs stopped functioning and I was dizzy as hell almost unable to stay awake (mind you, there's no possibility to achieve a nod from it if you're not in for suicide and mix it with benzos or alcohol, more of the speedy opioid type). I tried getting down the stairs and almost killed myself.

[Peripat]

Perspect, Darvon is indeed propoxyphene hcl. And for some reason it's quite an easy opiate to overdose on, particularly when combined with other central nervous system depressant drugs (alcohol, benzodiazepenes, barbiturates.)

Actually, I went to do some reading about it to refresh my memory (Google is your friend) (http://www.google.com) and indeed, it was one of the main drugs used by my former husband to kill himself. As you noted, Perspect, it's not really something to cop a "buzz" off of, but for some it's a means to an end. I just echo Perspect's warning here and ask those of you not wanting to end up in the local morgue, to be careful when using propoxyphene in any form.

[Perspect]

In the recent years it's been a lot of discussion both in the medical community and in the media, on propoxyphene . There's been many sucides as noted, and accidental overdoses on occasions where elders have popped a few and went to bed with a drink never to wake up again. The dangers lays in the fact that especially when combined with alcohol, it depresses the breathing enormously and also targets the heart in some way I haven't really understood. Methadone also shares this, some not very clever friend of a friend left us after dosing GHB on 'done.

You can notice a push in the direction of perscribing mostly tramadol, but also codeine instead. And actually, I think it's on it's way out of the market, at least in the scandinavian countries. They've already stopped selling many medicines, not only to try and prevent i.v abuse.
I don't think anyone will shed any tears, I'm thankful for the introduction into the opiate ocean, but I'd rather not drown so it's no loss really.
It's also a very crappy painkiller, the only thing it's pretty good at is making an attempt of quitting opiates easier, but there's buprenorphine now, so Darvon - your days are numbered!

[tramagesty]

I've found p-phene N to be actually Dysphoric (opposite of euphoric). There have also been studies done that show 650 mg of aspirin to have the same analgesia effect as a standard dose of propoxiphene. Although, there are two diff salts of p-phene in use, HCL and napyslate.(sp?). The Napsylate salt is found seemingly more often in the US, (usually as Darvocet N-100) and is not as effective, potent, or as fast acting as p-phene HCL (usually 65mg per tablet, and available as straight p-phene, where as p-phene Napsylate only is made with other active ingredients included.) My advice is to not even bother, unless you are a novice, in which case take a couple and kick back. Just avoid alcohol.

[shoxy]

in my experience, darvies only help when im absolutely desperate for something....same goes for tramadol, which i found out on accident....was withdrawing badly, and took a handful of tramadols, and felt ok, wasnt high, but wasnt sick either....but those things are only for sick maintenence in my opinion.....

[OpiKat]

Darvocet works fairly good for acute pain episodes. Years ago, I actually felt a little euphoria from taking Darvocet for headaches. However, this is not a drug that I would consider using recreationally.