Wats da thoughts on a herb/ganja forum?

[Raz]

As da man Bob said "herb is the healing of da nation".....

[chopstix]

I think it's a good idea. I'm on prop 215 for insomnia and think that herb has a lot of medicinal value. I also think its a complete fucking waste time and money for law enforcement and the court and prison systems..

Legalize it and tax it you dumbfucks - then you could MAKE money on it instead of wasting money on enforcement for something less harmful than alcohol..

[Papa Verine]

I'm all for it. I love weed, and it helps during opiate withdrawals. I'm high as fuck right now. Thank God for that!

[Motown]

I also love the ganja..... keeps me in check. Reminds me just how much other things are in my body. Only way I don't go off the deep end. For me, it's the voice of reason and conviction. Many medicinal values. MANY :p

[oxy kid]

I havn't smoked in a while because of the Sub UA's, but weed is amazing for many reasons.

[Natas666]

I am a legit MMJ user as well, though it does have far more drawbacks for me it is respected for its medicinal qualities.

[MissyAggravation]

I would definitely be interested in a MJ forum here at O., but I won't get my hopes up.
There are of course forums elsewhere on the net that are MJ specific, but it would be cool to have a sub-forum here where I know there are people worth conversating with.

[Narkotikon]

I still probably wouldn't smoke it if it were legal (unless they came up with some kind of special "we guarantee no paranoia" type of weed). That's because I don't like how it affects me. I just get too paranoid on it.

BUT, I will say I think it's stupid that it's illegal, that it's so controversial for medical use, and that it's in the same category as heroin and LSD and shrooms (Schedule I).

People don't OD on pot. People don't tend to get violent on pot like they do alcohol. People don't damage their livers from smoking pot like they do alcohol.

Yes, legalize it and tax it to make money.

[God_Albino]

the statement about it being a healer of nations channels the exact same unrealistic idealism of the lsd and x generations.

i miss it dearly, but after having not smoked for two years due to health problems, only now are the huge effects it had on my personality/development visible.

everyone's affected differently by substances is the main thing i was saying, anyhow. if one part of the world's population is given a positive new outlook on life, there's going to be another part that is introduced to paranoia, lethargy, depression, etc.


i've taken a lot of kpins and fent tonight, but i hope this is somewhat clear, even if you dont dig the opinion

[pinn3d]

I also think a cannabis forum would be good to have at this site......

It would be different from sites that are centered on marijuana, because it would be coming from an opio-minded point of view!

There are quite a few members who are fond of the herb... a designated pot section could keep the discussion of pot out of the other threads....

Of course, I agree that marijuana should be legalized, or at least completely decriminalized.... I find it invaluable..... Sometimes I wonder if I had to choose either opiates or weed for the rest of my life, one or the other, if I would pick weed....thats a hard choice......




*On a side note, I recently saw a thread asking why there isn't a tramadol forum..... I think there should be a cannabis forum, and a tramdaol forum! While tramadol is certainly not the DOC of many, if any people here, it is still used by some, like codeine, and can be valuable during WD.....

[NV12]

As da man Bob said "herb is the healing of da nation".....

i concur... let's do it..

[losangeleslifer]

Hell Ya!!

My first post is going to read: "I was flicking a bud...."

No, but really, a specific forum or sub forum sounds good to me.

[Hoss]

I just get too paranoid on it.

^ 'Tis usually the case with me as well, except with certain strains (i.e. : 'White Widow') for some reason - and as a curveball, I seemingly love hash as to quote Bill Cosby it doesn't make me wonder if I am falling out of the chair I am sitting in, hehe. Nevertheless, though, even with a plethora of pot head friends, I rarely smoke but once or twice a year, if that usually.

However, I'm for the forum.

[Indy]

I think it'd be cool to have a section devoted to cannabis.

I've never tried it, i really want to, but there's no open drug scene here, and i don't know any illicit drug users in real life. Well, i mean some of my friends have tried it but i'm not in touch with them these days. I really wish i could try it but if you don't already know anyone who has ANY drug connections, it's almost impossible find it just like that.

Narkotikon: I think the paranoia thing is dependent on the ratio of cannabidiol to THC. Like that one video with the reporter who participated in a test, and was given a mixture of cannabidiol and THC, and then just THC. The mixture was very enjoyable to them, made them relaxed, giddy, giggly, etc, whereas the THC alone made them very paranoid, and even displayed symptoms of acute psychosis.

IIRC, sativa has more THC, and gets you more "high", with more paranoia and mental effects, whereas indica is more of a "stoned" feeling, that's more relaxed, more of a body high, and more sedating. again, i've never tried weed (unfortunately...) so this is just based on what i've read, but people on here seem to agree, so i'm just trying to pass on what little info i have.

Pinn3d: did you know that if you click on the "pharmaceuticals" forum there's a general pharmaceuticals forum? No offense to you or anything, but i have to (VERY RESPECTFULLY) disagree on the tramadol forum. I really liked tramadol when i had it too, but I think the general pharmaceuticals forum is fine for the few topics made about tramadol. I suppose it wouldn't really hurt to have it separate though, and its not like it would take many posts away from the other forums. But I think the idea lately has been to consolidate the boards, so that they're more active, and not spread out all over. again i don't think your idea is bad, i just think there isn't enough discussion of tramadol to warrant its own forum.

[Narkotikon]

Thanks for that info, Indy. I agree. From what I've read on here, and what little I've read about it off the board, I think it's mostly the strain. I think the problem is that there aren't "pure" strains, unless you're buying from a legal source, like in Amsterdam or in some grow shop in Cali. I think the stuff most people get is a mixture of Sativa and Indica. If I could try just Indica, I might like it.

Also, I think it may have something to do with being uber-sensitive to it. I just think I'm very sensitive to THC and whatever other chemicals are in pot (I don't know as much about pot as I do opiates). I know all three of my sisters have tried it in college (even though two of them still deny it, although I know they're lying). My oldest sister, though, does admit to having tried it, and she actually said she got almost psychotic on it. That was in the late 80's when she was in college. I suppose it could have been laced, but from what she had described of it, it sounds just like how I get when I smoke pot, except more extreme. She said one night when she did it she actually ran screaming out of her apartment because she thought she was being chased.

For me, it's almost like an acid trip, although I actually found acid and shrooms to be less prone to cause paranoia than pot. It's just really weird. I'll smoke it or eat a bit of a brownie, and then I'll just be sitting frozen where I am, constantly thinking of scenarios in my mind, like "what did that person really say, was it this, or this, or this, or that?" It's like I can't determine what they really mean. "Hey, how are you" could very easily be interpreted by me as "Hey, fuck you!" when I'm stoned. Which is why I don't like it. I just can't stand that paranoid feeling. It's not pleasurable at all.

I also think it has to do with being around questionable people that I didn't feel comfortable with when I used to smoke more frequently. When I first tried weed when I was 19, I just got giggly, had the time-warp thing, felt relaxed. Then, when I started going to gay clubs and hanging out with people I shouldn't have hung out with when I was 20-22, when I took time off from college, it's like it re-programmed my mind. I was in an atmosphere of doubt, where I was surrounded by very bitchy, catty, and even mean people, some of whom were very shady, and I did smoke pot a lot then, so I think that's sort of made my brain associate the high of weed with those emotions. That's just a theory though. I don't know if that's actually true.

But, it would be interesting to see if I reacted the same way on pure Indica as opposed to a mix or Sativa. I doubt that will ever happen though, because it's illegal, and even if a person is really good friends with a dealer, there's still no guarantee it is what they say it is. That's the risk with any street drug.

But, yes, I think a cannabis forum is a good idea. Especially since there seems to be so many smokers on here.

[Thebane]

t's just really weird. I'll smoke it or eat a bit of a brownie, and then I'll just be sitting frozen where I am, constantly thinking of scenarios in my mind, like "what did that person really say, was it this, or this, or this, or that?" It's like I can't determine what they really mean. "Hey, how are you" could very easily be interpreted by me as "Hey, fuck you!" when I'm stoned. Which is why I don't like it. I just can't stand that paranoid feeling. It's not pleasurable at all.


Have you ever smoked alone in a safe environment, like you room? I always get a little freaked out around people, even friends, but if I'm alone it's usually not too bad, although I may worry once or twice about a neighbor smelling it. I'm sure I don't have as bad a reaction as you do, but if you haven't done it yet you could try smoking alone and just laying down or listening to music. Smoking pot on top of an even maintenance dose of opiates usually makes me nod somewhat and have crazy dreams while I'm doing it, which I like. Anyways just a suggestion.

I haven't smoked in a few months and I look forward to doing it again soon since tolerance really does develop fast for pot. As in a handful of times smoking makes a very noticeable difference in my experience, but it doesn't just keep getting worse and worse really quickly like it does with opiates.

[Narkotikon]

^^^^^^^ Yes, I tried it alone about four weeks ago now. Resorcinol will attest that I still got paranoid. I had to abruptly end an IM conversation with him because I was too paranoid. I guess that isn't alone alone, because I was still talking to someone, even though it was online chat, but yes, I've been completely alone before, and it still didn't help. I'm just not a pothead. I'm not programmed for it.

[Raz]

^^^ you could work thru all that.....But its up to you if ya wanna make the effort......Or if ya feel its even worth it......Some peeps personality's arent programmed to enjoy da weed, especially if ya obsess ova stuff...

I dont smoke anyfing cept da herb/hash.....And i basically dont give a shit about anyones opinion of me, cept ma wife n kid.....I could never give up weed/hash even in jail....Always had to have ma puff , it keeps me mellow.....I smoke constantly , more at night, and i could never give it up....

[Narkotikon]

^^^ you could work thru all that.....But its up to you if ya wanna make the effort......Or if ya feel its even worth it......Some peeps personality's arent programmed to enjoy da weed, especially if ya obsess ova stuff...

I dont smoke anyfing cept da herb/hash.....And i basically dont give a shit about anyones opinion of me, cept ma wife n kid.....I could never give up weed/hash even in jail....Always had to have ma puff , it keeps me mellow.....I smoke constantly , more at night, and i could never give it up....

That's what I figured. That if it was partly based on "programing" then it could be "unprogrammed." But, you're right, I think it would take a while and effort on my part, and I just honestly don't like weed enough to invest the money into buying the "medicine" to do it.

What exactly is the difference between weed and hash? I know it's an oil or some sort, but is it stronger than plain weed? It's like an oil / resein, right?

[Raz]

Hash is made from the leaves of the plant.....If you have a google "ice o lator hash" it will show you the basics....

Where as the herb is the bud (flowers) of the female plant.....Every grower doesnt want to pollenate his female plants as unpollenated all their energy will go into producing strong THC rich flowers.......Where as ,if the female gets pollenated all their energy will go into producing seeds....

I could explain it in more detail but thats the basics Narki....

[StinkyPickle]

I for one would love a mota forum here. I think it has wonderful properties, and really really helps a lot of people. Man, I wanna go smoke now :p

[Paregoric Kid]

a forum of its own or a subforum in potentiators would be a good idea in my opinion.

[pinn3d]

Pinn3d: did you know that if you click on the "pharmaceuticals" forum there's a general pharmaceuticals forum? No offense to you or anything, but i have to (VERY RESPECTFULLY) disagree on the tramadol forum. I really liked tramadol when i had it too, but I think the general pharmaceuticals forum is fine for the few topics made about tramadol. I suppose it wouldn't really hurt to have it separate though, and its not like it would take many posts away from the other forums. But I think the idea lately has been to consolidate the boards, so that they're more active, and not spread out all over. again i don't think your idea is bad, i just think there isn't enough discussion of tramadol to warrant its own forum.

I hear ya..... yeah I remember they were talking about consolidating the threads and condensing the site..... that's fine w/ me......I just remember reading a thread asking about tramadol forum, and I thought it was a good idea.... but obviously if they are working to condense the site then there is probably no need for a tramadol forum, especially if there wouldn't be much activity in it.....

[phaedros]

Im all for it.

[tao2]

Hi, another emphatic 'yes' vote for the herb forum!



tao2

[JTDuffet]

Absolutely Positively YES from me. :) I love herb and smoke it daily... so. yea. it would be fine to have a sub forum devoted to the herb....

Been smoking every day since the end of my high school days.. :) so at least 15+ years of smoking weed every single day..


-jt

[bronyraur]

As a result of popular demand, there is now a cannabis forum.

See here: http://forum.opiophile.org/forumdisplay.php?f=143

[SeVeN]

As a result of popular demand, there is now a cannabis forum.

See here: http://forum.opiophile.org/forumdisplay.php?f=143

Awesome. Good Job rallying the Troops Raz.