Tussionex question help if you can.

[Tbird921]

Hello, as many of you know Tussionex is really nice, it's not too hard to get and if you drink most of a bottle you can get a really good buzz going even if you have a tolerance, what I was wondering is I went in about two weeks ago to my doctors with a pretty bad cough, it was a PA and since I've had ashtma(sp) as a child, she Rx'ed me a inhalator(sp) just as she was getting up to leave, I said last time I was here with a cough I got some kind of cough syrup and it helped my cough a lot and let me get some sleep(that was a lie but I figured it would work). She said oh yes it's called Tussionex, score, on the Rx pad it looked like she circled 4 refills. But when I got the bottle it said no refills. Now my question is can I call the doctor office tell them I got Rx'ed tuss and a inhaltor and they both worked very well but now I'm out and ask to phone in a refill(they done it for other meds before but not sure about something abuseable like this) or if I go in to the office would it look sketchy to say my cough got a lot better, but it is still bothering me, I think it would be fine if I got a different PA(although would it showed I was just Rx'ed that two weeks earlier?), but if it's the same PA, I'm afraid she won't Rx me anymore since it was only two weeks ago. Any help would be appericated, I want to get high for free but don't want to be labeled a seeker. Thanks

[ka11ink]

I know hydrocodone is class III and able to be faxed, it's class II that have to be brought in on paper. But I'm not sure if tussionex would be able to be or not.

[SeVeN]

Chances are you have to visit again to get another prescription.

[pinn3d]

Hmmmmm... I dunnooo.... be careful........ Maybe call your doc and tell them that you went to the pharmacy thinking you had more refills, but they said you had none... ... tell the doc that the cough syrup was really helping, and that you were wondering if there was a mistake, that you thought you had seen some refills on the original rx pad, and maybe the pharmacy messed up.....

That's probably what I would do..... one time a pharmacy gave me an extra refill on some vicoprofen from when I got my wisdom teeth pulled..... it had 3 refills on the bottle... and they gave me an extra for some reason!! SWeet!!


But other than that I don't have much experience with picking up scripts, dealing with docs...etc......... I have had tussionex a few times, and LOVED it... i could drink that shit all day----- i love the sparkly color and the sickly sweet taste.... cough syrups are one of my favorites...... i'm jealous of your script... hope you enjoy the liquid hydrocodone syrupy goodness...!!!:D

[oxy kid]

Your going to have to visit unless you have REALLY good relationship with your doctor.

[WhyCatsPaint]

When the PA spoke with you did she tell you to follow up with her if it did not clear up with in a few weeks?

Yes I do know you can call and have anything that is a Class III or below faxed or called into a pharmacy but this normally pertains to maintenance medications. But in your case they may want to see you but then again you said your symptoms have improved but your cough is still present (correct?). I would call let them know you were in there a few weeks ago due to bad cough let them know that your symptoms are improving (no longer running fever, headache.. ect what other symptoms you had) but you still have a persistent dry hacking cough that is preventing you from getting sleep and you have used all of the medicine she/he had prescribed you and you have tried to substitute with OTC cough suppressants but are not as effective as the medication you were prescribed.

See what they say to that, they may have you come in or they may call it in. What do you have to loose? Now the big thing is you did not use up the medication in a shorter duration then prescribed did you?

Hope you feel better soon. Let us know if it works out for you.

[Narkotikon]

Tussionex is a C-III and probably the most desirable cough syrup on the market, aside from the Dilaudid cough syrup that isn't prescribed nearly as much.

I can see maybe giving one refill, but not four. So, I doubt it was really circled for four. You said it looked that way. Are you absolutely sure? If you're positively sure, I'd say there could be a basis for calling, although if you're not, I wouldn't try it.

Chances are though, whatever the situation, you probably will get red-flagged. Doctors offices are just on high alert now, especially since prescription drug abuse is so rampant. I would wait a month or so and go back and ask again.

Also, I'm not sure if you know this, but Tussionex not only contains hydrocodone, but also an antihistamine called chlor-something-amine. There's a MAX dosage on that of how much you should use in a day. Now, I've downed a bottle or two of the stuff in one day (6oz), but I wouldn't suggest you do that all the time. I mean, I'm not going to say you won't have complications, because I don't know your situation. But downing a 6oz bottle like once in a blue moon never hurt me. But, there is a max dosage. If you're really wanting to go the hydrocodone cough syrup route, I would suggest getting something with guaifennisen in it. It's not nearly as bad for you in high-doses. Those cough syrups though will have only either 2.5 or 5mg of hydrocodone bitartrate per 5 millilitres as opposed to the 10mg of hydrocodone polystirex per 5ml that Tussionex has.

[devilsdrug]

u prolly got the refills just have to have office call

[Tbird921]

Thanks for all the help guys, I do have a decent relationship with my doc, he's been my doc for awhile but like I said I don't wanna push my luck and get fucked over, Although I do think I'm gonna call and see if I can't get atleast one refill. If I get that I won't push my luck any further.

Narkotikon- I'm not really sure, it did look like 4 refills, but it does seem kinda strange there would be 4 refills, specially since it was only for a bad cough and not something more serious. Yea I know there's the chrol-whatever but I have to kill a bottle to get a good high(I believe it was only the 4 oz through) I've done dumber shit before, although for furture reference do you know the max amount?


WhyCatsPaint- No the PA didn't really go into detail the whole visit lasted maybe 10mins. My main complaint was the dry hacking cough and the trouble with sleep it had caused me. I'll prob go with your suggestion of calling and telling them I've used other OTC and they helped but the cough is still there.

Pinned-Thanks, I'll try to be carefull, the last thing I want is to be red flaggged, it(tuss) was gone in about 1 day, it really is delicious though. Unforturnaly due to my tolerance I have to kill most/all of a bottle. Hydrocondone doesn't do what it used too, I reamber back in the day being able to drink half a (4 oz) bottle and be really high.

[HydroApe]

Just call a refill in through your pharmacy.
It's standard procedure on a CIII and they'll call the docs office for you.
Don't make a big deal out of it and they won't either.
One refill request on a script like this is pretty common and shouldn't even raise an eybrow by the pharmacy or the doc.
The worse thing that can happen is the doc will not refill or they'll call you and ask you to come in to check you out before they give you one.

[Tbird921]

Just call a refill in through your pharmacy.
It's standard procedure on a CIII and they'll call the docs office for you.
Don't make a big deal out of it and they won't either.
One refill request on a script like this is pretty common and shouldn't even raise an eybrow by the pharmacy or the doc.
The worse thing that can happen is the doc will not refill or they'll call you and ask you to come in to check you out before they give you one.

So wait, I can call my pharmacy and ask for a refill even if on the bottle it said no refills? I figured it wouldn't be a huge deal doing it just once. So should I call my doctor office or the pharmacy?

[LorTabitha]

I've found it much easier to have the pharmacy contact my doctor. It's quicker and a lot less "legwork" on my part.

The pharmacy I use (inside a major chain grocery store) even has a phone option where you call in a refill using their automated system. If you don't have any remaining refills, the system will ask if you want the pharmacy to contact your doctor. Takes about a minute and it's super simple.

[Tbird921]

I've found it much easier to have the pharmacy contact my doctor. It's quicker and a lot less "legwork" on my part.

The pharmacy I use (inside a major chain grocery store) even has a phone option where you call in a refill using their automated system. If you don't have any remaining refills, the system will ask if you want the pharmacy to contact your doctor. Takes about a minute and it's super simple.
Oh cool, when I call my pharmacy a real person answers. Should I just say I got some cough syrup Rx'ed and thought there might have been a refill on it?

[kellyblue]

Tbird-

What they meant by "going through the pharmacy" was for you to call the pharmacy and request a refill. Don't get into a big story, just say "I'd like to order a refill" as if you thought there was one available...and they'll ask for the name of the med, and/or the prescription #. If there are refills available, you're good to go. If not- the pharmacy will call your doctor for approval.

Most times for this type of med, you'll get at least one refill, so long as it hasn't been months since you last had it. Meaning- if your cough is still there after a week or two, that's ok- if it's still there or back after a couple months, the doc will most likely want to see you.

So- call the pharmacy, tell them you need to refill your cough syrup, and they'll take it from there.

And- if you need a good cough syrup in the future and can't get Tussionex, "hycodan" is good too. It has Hydrocodone in it. Not as strong as the Tussionex, but for some reason, I always get a better buzz and better cough relief with it.

Good luck!

[pharmboy]

ask the pharmacy to look at the script see if you have 4 refils.

[runormal]

Is it better to say "I might have a refill" or instead say "I'd like to get a refill" ???? I know they sound similar but one is asking them if there is and the other is more forward saying you'd like one. I ask only because pharmacy manners have come up lately.

[LorTabitha]

I just call my pharmacy and say "could you please contact my doctor for a refill of script #xxxxxx?" They then verify which med and which doctor and voila! Within 24 hours I have my refill. I usually give them about 8 hours before I call to see if they've reached my doctor. You might want to give them a full day, depending on how busy your pharmacy and/or doctor might be. In smaller towns my guess is that it won't take as long as it does in larger cities.

My pharmacy faxes my doctor with the request and gets the results back via fax. If it's a maintenance med, they usually fax the request + additional refills (average number is 3, so total of 4 refills of your original script). If it's a specialty med, they usually only request the one refill.

The less "story" the easier it is. Less chance of you getting nervous and blowing it for some reason! :)

[pinn3d]

I think the Tussionex has more hydrocodone per ml than hycodan...... hycodan has homatropine in it to discourage abuse...... I would rather go with the tussionex...... I never got drowsy from the antihistamine in it......

Did you get the regular tussionex or the extended-release? I had never heard of the extended release version.... thought it was new... maybe its been around for a while....

[covv799ss]

Tussionex is a C-III and probably the most desirable cough syrup on the market, aside from the Dilaudid cough syrup that isn't prescribed nearly as much.

I can see maybe giving one refill, but not four. So, I doubt it was really circled for four. You said it looked that way. Are you absolutely sure? If you're positively sure, I'd say there could be a basis for calling, although if you're not, I wouldn't try it.

Chances are though, whatever the situation, you probably will get red-flagged. Doctors offices are just on high alert now, especially since prescription drug abuse is so rampant. I would wait a month or so and go back and ask again.

Also, I'm not sure if you know this, but Tussionex not only contains hydrocodone, but also an antihistamine called chlor-something-amine. There's a MAX dosage on that of how much you should use in a day. Now, I've downed a bottle or two of the stuff in one day (6oz), but I wouldn't suggest you do that all the time. I mean, I'm not going to say you won't have complications, because I don't know your situation. But downing a 6oz bottle like once in a blue moon never hurt me. But, there is a max dosage. If you're really wanting to go the hydrocodone cough syrup route, I would suggest getting something with guaifennisen in it. It's not nearly as bad for you in high-doses. Those cough syrups though will have only either 2.5 or 5mg of hydrocodone bitartrate per 5 millilitres as opposed to the 10mg of hydrocodone polystirex per 5ml that Tussionex has.

Thaat was nice of you to bring that up. The max dose for CPM is 32 mg i think. I forgot how much is in each tsp of tuss, but I remember I looked it up one day and came to the conclusion that either 2 or 4 tsp was equal to 32 mg...at least i think that's what it was...in any case i ignored it, but these things are always important to mention because most of the time people see "HYDROCODONE, NO TYLENOL, READY TO GO!!!" and start chugging. im sure its not as bad as APAP but i dont know anything about it and it sounds like it has the potential to do some nasty shizzzit.

[HydroApe]

Just call the pharmacy and ask for a refill on whatever script # it is. If you have refill(s) they'll say OK, if not they'll say they need to contact your DR. for authorization. Tell em that would be great thanks. You could also ask them to give you a call when it's been approved and ready so you don't have to call and bug them to see if it's ready. This will make them happy. Nothing a pharmacist hates more then people calling in to see if their hydro script has been approved.

I personally think anyone who gets a virus should get an immediate script for hydrocodone at least;)
I mean, nothing makes a cold or flu more tolerable than a nice little opie buzz.
Imagine all the sick days that would be saved this way. Who cares if you have to go to work sick if the aches and pains are made tolerable.

Ahh, just another "in my perfect world" thought.

[ItsLupus]

Call the pharmacy and give them the rx #..tell them you thought that she had written you for a refill on the med but there is not one on the bottle.They are required to keep the original script for a certain amount of time(2 yrs in my state)They keep them seperated by day and can go back to the day you filled and pull the original script and check it.That way if its not on there you dont have to mess with the drs office.I have had to do this before with meds I got and KNEW I had a refill.Call the pharm and tell them it should have a refill and none is on the bottle,they put you on hold,get the script and change it in their system.


CPM is 8mg per tsp.

[bronyraur]

ask the pharmacy to look at the script see if you have 4 refils.


Exactly–since it is a C-III substance, they have to keep the script at the pharmacy for a certain amount of time (not sure how long). So they'll be able to check and see if you actually have refills.

This has happened to me–I once got a script for 60 Lortabs with one refill–got the bottle and it said "0" refills. Went back to the pharmacist, had him check the paper script, and sure enough, he made a mistake.

[Suboxstitute]

To clarify - for others who might have this question since the OP did not seem quite clear on this:

With a non-scheduled (thyroid medicine for example) or a CIII drug (hydrocodone with apap or cough syrup wth hydro) or Schedule IV (benzos, mostly, are the 4's) whether you have a refill left or not, or you just don't know if you do - whether the bottle SAYS it or not, I would normally call the pharmacy myself and say: "I need a refill on __________ (medication)".

They'll either say fine, if you have refills left, it'll be ready at ____ (time). If you don't have fills left, they'll say "Would you like us to contact your doctor for you". (YES, you do want them to). Or they'll just say "We'll call your doctor for you". "Please allow extra time."

It is TOTALLY routine thing for them as long as you are not doing it constantly on something like cough syrup or benzos before time's up or whatever it is. For something like this, it is probably better than calling the PA/doctor's office again. All they might say is "we want to see the patient before we refill".

With the automated systems, you just punch in the RX# from the bottle and again, the pharmacy takes it from there. Two of my doctors now require that it be done this way: Patient calls the pharmacy, pharmacy calls or faxes the doctor, script is either approved or not.

It is quite funny how we obsess over getting our scripts filled - EXAMPLES: counting days EXCESSIVELY, WONDERING 'do I have refills', worrying what "they" will think, figuring out "how best to ask".... thinking "will I be red-flagged" , what should I wear to the pharmacy, should I make small talk with the pharmacist or tech, what time of day should I go, do they know I am a junkie, can they read my mind, should I buy another product, like hair gel, with my script, to show I have another part of my life.....?

Just pretend you're a "normie". They get their scripts filled all the time, even controlled stuff, and go through none of the "what if" scenarios like we do.

[roxi*stardust]

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I think the Tussionex has more hydrocodone per ml than hycodan...... hycodan has homatropine in it to discourage abuse...... I would rather go with the tussionex...... I never got drowsy from the antihistamine in it......
Did you get the regular tussionex or the extended-release? I had never heard of the extended release version.... thought it was new... maybe its been around for a while....
Tussionex is Tussionex, there is only one and it's is extended release. It's called Pennkenetic syrup. Each 5ml of Tussionex contains Hydrocodone Polistirex equivalent to 10mg of Hydrocodone Bitartate and Chlorpheniramine Polistirex equivalent to 8mg of Chlorpheniramine Maleate.
http://www.tussionex.com/
Hycodan has 5mg/5ml. It does contain small amounts of Homatropine to discourage abuse. It is a plain syrup.

[pinn3d]

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Tussionex is Tussionex, there is only one and it's is extended release. It's called Pennkenetic syrup. Each 5ml of Tussionex contains Hydrocodone Polistirex equivalent to 10mg of Hydrocodone Bitartate and Chlorpheniramine Polistirex equivalent to 8mg of Chlorpheniramine Maleate.
http://www.tussionex.com/
Hycodan has 5mg/5ml. It does contain small amounts of Homatropine to discourage abuse. It is a plain syrup.
Ah, thanks... never was aware that tussionex was time released......neat-o! Maybe that contributed to why I used to enjoy it so much.....

[roxi*stardust]

Ah, thanks... never was aware that tussionex was time released......neat-o! Maybe that contributed to why I used to enjoy it so much.....
Could be that or the delicious pineapple/tropical flavor. Mmmm

[Indy]

Ah, Tussionex, my first opiate experience. The ONLY thing that EVER could handle the absolutely horrible sore throats i got in high school whenever i got a cold/flu. Then after taking it so i could go to school one morning, I first started noticing it in band. It was a bit strange, when i held a long note, it felt really good when i would start to run out of breath, so i kept doing it, thinking that was what was making me feel good. Well pretty soon it had really kicked in, and i felt good, and then it hit me: it was the syrup! So i experimented with it that year, but didn't really get hooked, even after i started using vicodin all that summer, and that next fall too. I made sure and limit myself: saturday nights, when Adult Swim was on TV, all cozied up with a blanket, 5 mg of hydro that made me feel awesome. To think I first got addicted to opioids with TRAMADOL after experimenting with hydrocodone for like a year and a half.

The time release system i find interesting, because it's not a matrix that contains the drug, it's a polistirex molecule that makes it get absorbed/digested slower. The polistirex always felt way stronger to me.