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Paregoric Kid
03-08-2005, 09:43 AM
my dog is dying. it has an ear infection and it's kidneys are beat. I looked up vet. information for a methadone dosage for dogs. it said .4-.6mg of methadone for IM/IV so I figured the proper oral dose would be about 1.25mg (later I checked a narcotic equivalency calculator and it turns out .6mg IV/IM is equivalent to 1.2(5) mg of methadone). so I split a quarter of a methadone off. 1.25mg. wrong. it was a 10mg pill, for some fucked up reason I thought I had 5s. so it was like 2.5mg she got. but that's ok she didn't have any ill effects, not even throwing up which she was doing. I was going to mix a solution and put it in an oral syringe and spray it down into her throat. unfortunatly I couldn't find the oral syringe so I just put it on a piece of baloney. she didn't eat the meat but she did eat the piece of methadone. I hope it helped, she might have to be put to sleep today, that sucks. but anyways, I thought that dogs needed a higher dose of opiates for pain killing, isn't that why vets use fentanyl and hydromorphone and demerol? I just hope I gave it enough. I think I'd rather just shoot it in the head or just give her a lethal dose of opiates. they just chemically suffocate animals when they put them down in a vet office, doesn't seem very pleasant. my cat that was poisoned by a neighbor screamed when it was put to sleep, it fighted it. I think a lethal dose of opiates would be a very, very pleasant, if not the best, way to die.
what do you guys think?
1badrabbit
03-08-2005, 09:51 AM
As much as the whole situation sucks, I think either an opiate induced OD or having the vet put the animal to sleep is your best bet. If it seemed like your cat didn't enjoy the experience then I don't really see where it would be any worse for you to take care of it yourself. Sorry to hear about your dog.
Peripat
03-08-2005, 05:55 PM
Sorry about your dog.
I think a massive opiate overdose might be a nice way to die. I suspect many of us here might not be able to accumulate the needed opiates (because of our tolerances), but if it turns out you need to do that for your dog and you can... I think it would be an act of love.
Strength to you in this tough time. Losing a pet always sucks.
bi11i
03-08-2005, 07:05 PM
i wouldn't go with the opiate induced method. i've seen what happens to humans when they OD, and I seriously doubt you're wanting your last memory of your dog to be of a similar scene...
peacefulwarrior
03-08-2005, 07:35 PM
I just put down my dog a couple of months ago and the procedure was very easy and painless (for him not me.) I forget but I think they injected barbituates or benzos or something and it was very quick. An opiate OD would cause respiratory failure too so the suffucation would be just as bad as at the vet...my guess worse. They really have it down fast with the vet and know the best way to do things. One advantage of 'moving him along' at home is that I think animals sort of know whats going to happen by the vet environment and faces of their masters. I had a friend get the vet dr. to come to his house to do the whole thing. It really is a tough situation and I wish you and your dog the best- im sure she'll be just fine after this transition.
blackdog
03-09-2005, 01:36 AM
sorry to hear kid.if you u feel like,tell us her name how old is she what kind{mutts r da best}of breed. dogs are mans best friend loyalty that knows no bounds.i took my dobie bitch to the vet,finally! our selfishness keeps us from giving them a proud end to their sufferage,alas as the vet injected my best friend and as he pushed the plunger she lookedup to me and licked my face as to say thank you and to let me know that everything will be allright......oh man my heart goes out to ya kid...peace
Somni Divine
03-09-2006, 10:21 AM
At first I thought this was written this year, now I see it is a year old. I would have had some advice for you, I have a vet that is a master at putting dogs down, and unfortunately I have seen a lot of euthanasias, both good and bad. He told me to call him on his cell phone if I was ever in a "bad" situation again, and he'd give me the dosages, and what to give the dog based on weight. He is a GREAT vet, and he does it right. My dog went so peaceful, snoring in my arms, and just stopped snoring, I swear before the second plunger ever hit a vein.
I am so sorry PK, my heart hurts for you man, but I am sure you helped your best friend, and certainly did no harm. There is no pain worse than losing your best friend (especially the furry kind). I am so, so, so sorry. I wish I would have been around to call my vet and help you out, or at least have been a friend that day. This post made me cry. For you, and for the dog you loved.
My vet says there is NO EXCUSE for a "bad" "euthanasia" and he does NOT chemically suffocate them. Really. He relaxes them, makes them go to sleep first, before they go to sleep, just like you were thinking, and really, it doesn't seem like a bad way to go at all. I've been there for it.
But like I said, I have seen it done wrong too, and nothing makes me more angry because it NEVER has to be that way. For everyone else - don't be afraid to ask the vet questions and TELL them you want your pet to be SLEEPING PEACEFULLY (not paralyzed) before they go to sleep. My vet uses a mix of opiates, benzodiazipines and acepromazine to get the dog in a peaceful place of deep sleep BEFORE the pink shot (which is the barbituate that makes their heart stop.) This is the kindest and gentlest way for both the dog and the owner, and you have the RIGHT to insist on it.
Sounds like you helped, PK. You are a GOOD guy. That is such a SAD story. I am sorry for your pain, that I am sure you still endure.
I'm sure dogs go to heaven if that is any comfort to you. I'm not sure at all about people, but dogs, well I just know heaven wouldn't be heaven without them, especially those of mine that have moved on. I hope writing about this doesn't open an old wound. I just want to tell you I can really empathize to the point your story makes me cry, and I hope that you find great comfort in great memories of your friend.
Love,
Somni D.
dissident
03-09-2006, 11:45 AM
the shot given is an overdose of pentobarbitol.
they go to sleep, if they scream its because some came out of the vein and it stung a little, otherwise they are just getting and overdose of anesthetic. i worked as a tech for a long time..
im so sorry about your dog
devilsdrug
03-09-2006, 08:44 PM
just for the record a friend and i od his 3 legged dog with black tar one day , actually it was the 3rd shot that did it , it was time
jacky
03-10-2006, 02:18 PM
we put our dog to sleep with the aid of a vet who brought the materials to our house, what a great way to do something that sucks. WAY better than taking the dog/cat/horse to the vet. plus you get to keep the body.
a few years ago I accompanied my mother to the vet to put her horse to sleep. the vet did it in a parking lot with traffic buzzing by in open view of anyone who might have been passing by, like maybe a school bus etc. NOT a good experience. we should have had a vet come out to the property.
putting an animal down with heroin, while completely illegal, strikes me as a selfless thing to do for a "junkie", taking the matter to hand, and avoiding the fear and anxiety that vets offices can have on animals is forethought and empathy.
I could see some vets getting very upset at this practice, but lately most of my vet experiences have struck me as more of a greed based inclination than empathy. especially one vet that seemed entirely high on ketamine trying to fleece us of our hard earned cash, pulling the blame game, and generally putting off a VERY bizarre attitude.
I dont think some animals respond to opiates in a positive manner, so maybe heroin euth. is better practiced on mans best freind .
thanks for sharing.....sorry bout the pup.
(in Homer Simpson voice, drools) mmmmm. keeetaaaameeen.
Hey, PK. How did that turn out?
Paregoric Kid
03-10-2006, 07:00 PM
yeah this happened in march of last year. my dog had kidney failure and there wasn't anything the vet could do. I think the methadone made her feel better, she didn't seem in any pain just tired. ended up taking her to the vet where they gave her a lethal dose of barbiturate. it was sad but it was painless and fast and she was surrounded by her favorite people all the way till the end.
skeletontea
03-11-2006, 01:15 PM
I'm sorry to hear about your dog. I almost replied when this thread got bumped, thinking "Oh no, I just lost my dog, and now PK is losing his!", then I saw that this was in 2005, not 2006. I'm glad it was painless, and she was surrounded by friends.
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