IV USE of MORPHINE

[vanilla_mlkshake2007]

OK me and the hubby just got in a huge fight once again about my using drugs by IV . He says I don't know WTF I'm doing or I wouldn't have gotten so many abcesses on my arms.(In the past I'll admit I have had more then my share) but mostly beacause at the time he had no idea I was doing it and the abcesses came from A sharp knock on the door i'd usually receive after spending WAY to long in the bathroom trying to hit a vein and him knocking the shit out of the door. Screaming "What are you doing in there huh?JUNKY?" which in turn makes me jump then I hurry and push he drug in whether it hurts or not,and it does burn like a son of a bitch.
So I had went to the pharmacy in a big chain dept.store and bought 1cc 30 gauge needles but they were short,therefore worthless to me,but I kept the receipt and today I changed them for the normal size 1cc 30 gauge needles and I come home and hit the vein first try.Now this is the only pharmacy in my state where I get this type of luck.Its not that I don't know how to IV.Its just the fact that I've been doing it for 5 years now and have hardly no veins left and also I can only use syringes from this store I don't know if its turnover or what?Have any of you ever experienced this?I mean for some reason even though I buy the exact same brand,same size same gauge same everything,but there is only one pharmacy with working rigs for me.I mean it seems like the rubber on the plunger is very lubricated and I also noticed when I pull the white cap off the top the plunger tends to stick a lil to the inside of the covers,so when I pull them out they tend to come out a lil with the cap.Does the freshness of the shelve quality effect the syringes we use or is it all in my head. I know it can't be because I have never got an abcess when buying from this pharmacy.
PS to anyone who is reading this and have a loved one you know is IV'g and you wanna help them out,THE WORST FUCKING THING you can do is bang loudly on the door,and rush them.This is very dangerous and we already know what we are doing is wrong .You all are just making it 100 times more dangerous for us and that goes for any IV of a drug not just morphine.HMMMMMM I feel better now.

[exitwound]

Holy hell! =0

Although I do see both sides of the argument, I have to say that as a chronic pain sufferer I don't agree with being harsh to those who use opiates -- for whatever reason! -- even though they aren't sufferers themselves.

I am very open to all types of opiophiles and while I don't IV myself, I try to be open and accepting to those who do. Other than offering harm-reduction information, I try not to judge or criticize even if the decisions people make aren't the same as I would in their shoes.

Please keep us updated -- I'll try to offer whatever support I can!

Of course, relationship issues can get very much wrapped up in these matters. You may want to try to tackle those separately and see if that improves his take on your opiate use....

[antony]

it reminds me of when I was like 13-14, and my old man would walk in on me beatin off, wanna talk about pushing the plunger too fast....

"CHRIST DAD! CAN'T YOU FUCKIN KNOCK??"
"SERVES YOU RIGHT ANT, YOU CANTBE DOING THAT AT YOUR SIS'S COMPUTER"

im gonna go have a cig and laugh this one off a while

[Kallie]

Wow, Vanilla Milkshake... That has to be one of the worst kinds of hell... living with someone beating up on you verbally, while you are beating up on yourself, too (or maybe not, I just know I do now and then... especially if I get caught red-handed).

There's a thread posted a while back on relationships and drugs... can they work, etc. No answers, but you might find some comfort in reading about others that do and don't work out. Glad you can vent here, and you posted in the right forum, too (that's something we are all working on....) Welcome!

Thanks for sharing, and I hope things get better for you.

[shaunclo]

I dont like to hear stories like that Vanilla, He should know that if he is with you that he also has to take the bad with the good. I bet theres some shit about him that you could yell at him for too, but I bet you dont. It juts makes you a better person for it.

I love the pins and needles affect I get in my head when I slam Morph, good stuff!!

[Zonker]

I've been shooting daily-ish for... I think eight years. I've had a few abcesses, but nothing like what you're talking about (But, I work a physical job, outside, and had big vens to start).. My wife doesn't know I shoot, but knows I use 'sometimes,' and believe-a-you-me I know what you're talking about with the 'banging on the BR door' shit. I just say I ether got the shits or there are constipaton issues.. Somehow, this has never been a problem, but... She's naivete incarnate, so I'm just lucky, I guess.
But, I have noticed differences in syringe quality at different locations, and from what I can tell, the fresher the syringe, the better it works.. The further from this city I get, the more unreliable the syringes get; I once got a downright faulty BD syringe - the plunger completely lost its' seal 1/2 way down, and most of the goods ended up on the floor :sad-smile

I seem to recall my ma, an RN, telling me that syringes are sealed with oil. I have certainly experienced alcohol - containing mixes degrading the syringe-seal qualty drasticaly in two shots.
Was this any help? I hope so.

Oh, and I wonder about tossing a drop or two of alcohol into your mix to help sterilize; I donno if this works in reality, but.. Abcesses are no fun whatsoever.

[vanilla_mlkshake2007]

[quote=Zonker]I've been shooting daily-ish for... I think eight years. I've had a few abcesses, but nothing like what you're talking about (But, I work a physical job, outside, and had big vens to start).. My wife doesn't know I shoot, but knows I use 'sometimes,' and believe-a-you-me I know what you're talking about with the 'banging on the BR door' shit. I just say I ether got the shits or there are constipaton issues.. Somehow, this has never been a problem, but... She's naivete incarnate, so I'm just lucky, I guess.
But, I have noticed differences in syringe quality at different locations, and from what I can tell, the fresher the syringe, the better it works.. The further from this city I get, the more unreliable the syringes get; I once got a downright faulty BD syringe - the plunger completely lost its' seal 1/2 way down, and most of the goods ended up on the floor :sad-smile

I seem to recall my ma, an RN, telling me that syringes are sealed with oil. I have certainly experienced alcohol - containing mixes degrading the syringe-seal qualty drasticaly in two shots.
Was this any help? I hope so.

Oh, and I wonder about tossing a drop or two of alcohol into your mix to help sterilize; I donno if this works in reality, but.. Abcesses are no fun whatsoever.[/quote
I know this isn't a place to vent about relationship issues I just threw that in for good measure Damn I was just venting a lil Maybe we do need a flame room) But really I just wanted to know if anyone had any experience with fresh vs. non-fresh works .Thank you for letting me know its all in my head,and Karen thank you also for your input thats so true.,but really I just wanted to warn anyone else thats going through the banging on the door and jumping you outta your skin deal,how dangerous this is.,and to EW i do have pain.Unfortunatelly I have Chirossis of the liver and the only meds i can get prescribed are Darvacet or Vicodin which contain so much APAP that it was killing my liver.The reason I IV is because I'm broke and a 120mg. Avinza can last me all day when injected rather then crushing it and eating it or snorting it plus I'm protecting my liver from all the APAP which was making my liver a whole lot worse.I don't abuse the drug often I only do that like 4 times a month like on a Friday night,because while everyone else I know is out boozing it up at the clubs and bars I don't have that option therefore I like to kick back on a friday night and get a buzz in a way thats not going to kill me in a year.I have been IV'g for almost 5 years now and my liver hasn't received any further damage so minus the abcesses which I can now avoid because I know where to buy very fresh syringes I just don't see the problem.Oh yeah and Karen thanks for letting me know I posted the thread right this time I am rather new here (well a couple months) and I am glad I posted in the right forum. Last time I was way off and that screws everyone else up,so I'm learning lol

[vanilla_mlkshake2007]

I dont like to hear stories like that Vanilla, He should know that if he is with you that he also has to take the bad with the good. I bet theres some shit about him that you could yell at him for too, but I bet you dont. It juts makes you a better person for it.

I love the pins and needles affect I get in my head when I slam Morph, good stuff!!
Yes shaunclo your right there is alot I could scream about him from the rooftops lol ,but even when I was living with my MOM I had more freedom then this.I mean I really just posted this to inform other people how absolutely dangerous the "BANGING ON THE DOOR" thing can be.I mean theres ways to go about things and this is just very dangerous. Shit I'm 37 years old and I know what I'm doing isn't right,but if its such a biggy he can leave me. I love him to death but I've also made my choice.Again I Don't wanna sound like OPRAH or DR PHIL so I'll just return to enjoying my Friday night and you all don't have to worry about hearing about my evil husband anymore.Be careful Take Care and Stay High!!!!!!

[warmgun]

@vanilla: have you told your husband what effect his knocking has on you? if not, he propably is not even aware what he is doing to you.
it seems to me you vent here because you shy away from facing your husband about this issue.

if you indeed told your husband and he continues to do what he does you have quite the issue there, i guess.

[BiGbOi]

Vannilla, i have a personal expierience with this also and unfortunatly i was the one banging on the door. About a month and a half ago me and my GF were in a car accident and both of us were banged up pretty good. She was prescribed perc's and i was prescribed peaches (60 mg morph's). At first i was taking them orally but then it turned into IV. She also has the hardes't veins to hit in the world and would stay in the bathroom for a long time. I started knocking real loud but i was genuinely concerned for her well being but as you may guess it did cause problem's and i guess she let it build up and then one day she just lost it on me. I love her alot and promised never to do it again now i start to say her name from across the room so she has warning of me coming i am basically just looking for hr to answer me so that i know she is ok because i would die if anything ever happened to her.

Not that i am a qualified relationship expert or anything but is this why he bang's cause he is worried? Although the calling you a junky bit is completely uncalled for and unhealthy in my opinion.Well that is just my two cent's i genuinely wish you all the best vanilla it sound's like you are in love and i hope everything work's out for the best.

Be safe and have fun!

[vanilla_mlkshake2007]

@vanilla: have you told your husband what effect his knocking has on you? if not, he propably is not even aware what he is doing to you.
it seems to me you vent here because you shy away from facing your husband about this issue.

if you indeed told your husband and he continues to do what he does you have quite the issue there, i guess.
Oh yes,I have told him what it does to me and he has seen the results.I really didn't mean to bring the relationship issue into this.That wasn't my point.I just wanted others to know how dangerous this is.I think because he lost his brother a few years do to Heroin addiction this is why he hates needles,plus he says I don't know what I'm doing which I do (well kinda I'm not a dr or nurse),but yes he has seen the results of his door pounding,and now will just call my name every 10 minutes or so .I only do it once or twice a day.He just hates needles, and thinks if I knew what I was doing I wouldn't have abcesses. I explained how hard mophine is to inject and that he's making it worse,also I'll do it regardless of his name-calling and door-pounding.I won't vent again if its a relationship issue.I realize this isn't the place for that.I just more or less wanted to know if it was happening to others.Again sorry for venting