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dieselbaby
01-24-2009, 11:11 PM
Well, I see a lot of people on here talking about IVing oxy or pills in general and there is sadly a lot of misinformation out there and bad habits that can be potentially dangerous. Now, before I go any further in posting this I think it should be said that IVing pills in general is a bad idea and will fuck your veins up really quickly. This won't keep anyone from doing it though, so if you're going to be shooting pills you might as well be doing it in a safer way.

The tools you need to do this are:



your OC (duh)
paper towels
cup with water
a small dixie cup or shot glass
an oral syringe (you can get them for free at CVS at the pharmacy counter - just ask for it) - any size is good but I prefer to have an assortment and the 1mL and 5mL are great
an insulin syringe (duh v 2.0)
cotton for filtering
2 spoons - preferrably one that is ladle-like and one that is more flat (info on this below)


When I shoot OC, I apply the rule of thumb that every 80mg of powder you need 1cc (1 mL) of water. Use purified water; or if not available, use distilled or bottled water (try to stay away from tap and spring water). They make a brand of water called "Penta" that is the purest water available on the market (in terms of drinking water) - this stuff is great for shooting. To get the coating off of the pill, dip a napkin or paper towel into water and take the coating off...do NOT suck on it, you will get unnecessary germs on the pill. I should also point out that the solubility for oxycodone in water is listed as 166 mg/mL. From my experiments I've found that to get the maximum amount of water (and most bang for your buck if you need to shoot stupid amounts of OC, aka the max per shot (160 mg...I need to do like 320 mg at a time to feel it) back, you can use 130 units if you're using 2 x OC80s or 4 x OC40s and you'll get back 100 units on the dot.

Get two spoons, preferrably one flat and one like a soup ladle or a deep spoon you can prep the shot in. Take your pill, put it on the flat spoon with the coating taken off, and crush it onto the flat spoon with the back of the rounded (deep) ladle/spoon. Then take the powder off the flat spoon and put it back into the ladle. Get yourself an oral syringe (or a syringe without a needle - you can do this with a regular syringe but I don't reccomend it, my method allows you to do a safer and more efficient extraction) and measure out 1 mL (1cc, 100 units) of water.

Cover the powder with water (COLD water works best), and then begin to stir it up with the orange cap on your needle. Stir it up real nice into the cold water. DO NOT ADD HEAT, it will only serve to help melt nasty fillers and wax particulates that you do NOT want dissolving into your shot. Stir it, it will get cloudy and you will see the wax particles start to coagulate in the liquid. You can let it sit for a couple of minutes to make sure that all of the oxy has gone into solution. Get a nice tight wet piece of cotton, drop it in, and draw it up into the oral syringe (this is also much easier than drawing it into a syringe with a needle attached).

Once it's drawn up, shoot the liquid back into a shot glass or a dixie cup. Repeat the above step, re-filtering it until you don't see any particulates in the liquid, it should be completely clear but the smell of the liquid should REEK of oxy and be very bitter tasting. Then filter at least 2x more with the oral syringe.

Use a micron wheel filter if you have access to one after this. This is a great method for preparing the pills before micron filtering so you don't destroy your filter. Shooting pills is not safe. The method I use seeks to eliminate most of the risks, but IVing is inherently risky in itself, so be careful. Make sure that all your equipment is cleaned with alcohol and hot water beforehand, and use a clean needle (duh), and use that needle only once! Wipe yourself with an alcohol wipe before and after the shot. Also, wash your hands! Most people overlook this, and it's a big thing when it comes to keeping shit as safe as possible.

Happy blasting! By the way, this method works (and is preferred) for Roxis, dilaudid and any other water-soluble pill without the stupid time-release mechanisms.

All the oxy will readily dissolve into the cold water, do not bother saving the gunk left over
in the spoon, it is all crap and fillers...you can keep it, sure, as you might not get all the stuff out on your first extraction - and it's always nice to save a 'wash' for when you're hurting, but realistically, the better you get at this - the less there will be left over in the spoon.

duck
01-25-2009, 12:01 AM
Great fucking write up Diesel. I sure wish I would have read this before burning all those binders and other nasties that are probably still floating around my body :( This is a great method.

Opiyum
01-25-2009, 12:40 AM
If you have wheel filters already I don't see why you would go to the trouble of pre filtering it three times with cotton. Most of the shit in Oxy that is harmful to shoot clumps up on its own and is insoluble in water anyhow. The rest of the little bits will be taken care of by the wheel filter. Other than maybe getting a few extra uses out of the wheel I don't see what all the hassle here will do for you.
When it comes to Oxy's I always prefer to use heat. I don't boil the shit out of it but in my experience it only help to separate the nasty stuff you don't want out and it makes the good stuff dissolve into solution much quicker.

dieselbaby
01-25-2009, 01:27 AM
If you have wheel filters already I don't see why you would go to the trouble of pre filtering it three times with cotton. Most of the shit in Oxy that is harmful to shoot clumps up on its own and is insoluble in water anyhow. The rest of the little bits will be taken care of by the wheel filter. Other than maybe getting a few extra uses out of the wheel I don't see what all the hassle here will do for you.
When it comes to Oxy's I always prefer to use heat. I don't boil the shit out of it but in my experience it only help to separate the nasty stuff you don't want out and it makes the good stuff dissolve into solution much quicker.

I see what you're saying about the wheel filter, so yeah, I guess it's kind of overkill. But as far as using heat goes, I really think you might want to change your mind on that. The heat makes the bad stuff GO into solution. So while it may not be soluble (and it isn't) in cold water, why would you bother heating it if the oxy dissolves into cold water quite readily?

krinkov
01-25-2009, 01:51 AM
I also disagree on the use of heat. I always use just a little bit. I don't bring it to a boil, but just get a little bit of steam to come off of it. When you heat it like that, it seems to separate the oxy from the fillers a lot better. The filler drops right to the bottom and the oxy dissolves into the water. Try it sometimes and you'll see what I mean.

handsome rob
01-25-2009, 03:29 AM
I also agree with the uasage of heat, too much though can also weaken the shot. A friend of mine was always complaing about shooting and OC's not working out too well. He gave me a demo and he was heating until bubbling plus a few seconds. On top of that was not using enough water at all, I preffer about 1.5 cc's per 80mg and using a low heat and any sign of bubbles and i quickly remove from heat. My friend was adding water and heat comparable to fixing H. Once he used my method it was an entirely diferrent experience. I should get into a double filtration process but haven't for the moment, but should start, having needleless rigs and all. My friend is the absolute most unsantiary user I have ever met too, i.e: lickling the needle right before injection, using the same 1/3cc rig for weeks at a time, and just un general, unecessarily using awful sanitary practices. Amount of water and proper heat seem to be the key.

Chemical_Boy
01-25-2009, 05:43 AM
I heat it. Gives a better shot. You won't have to wash it two times to get all of the oxy out of the gook.

I throw the whole pill in the spoon. I add 125 to 150 units. I heat to light boil. at that point I crush the pill with the cover from the needle I am about to use and stir a bit. Heat again to light boil. Stir. Add wet cotton, draw. Cool under faucet. Push off....

If I was worried about it, I would not slam OC in the first place. . . .

Anyhow, good luck!

Opiyum
01-25-2009, 10:18 AM
Your oxy will dissolve anyhow but heat really speeds up the process and normally once I have the drugs the last thing I want to do is wait anymore.

roxi*stardust
01-25-2009, 10:29 AM
As far as using cotton and a wheel filter; it is a great idea and actually reccommended by the vast majority of harm reduction advocates. It's called pre-filtering and keeps your wheel filtering from clogging up. Great write up diesel, this is getting stickied as it as some great information in it.

Westside
01-25-2009, 11:15 AM
As far as using cotton and a wheel filter; it is a great idea and actually reccommended by the vast majority of harm reduction advocates. It's called pre-filtering and keeps your wheel filtering from clogging up. Great write up diesel, this is getting stickied as it as some great information in it.

I've only been able to use a wheel filter once, and it is definitely the way to go. The only problem is availability. I can't find any locally unless I'm looking in the wrong places. Does anyone know a good place to order from on the internet? Maybe a place that will give discounts for ordering the different filter sizes in bulk? Thanks for any help.

Using a basic cotton filter still allows a lot of gunk you really don't want in your veins to easily flow into the syringe.

mart1n
02-05-2009, 08:05 PM
My needle exchange was nice enough to get me a few wheel filters as well as those "wine glass" looking filters that click onto the end of your rig. The problem I always had with the wheel filter is some of the drug solution stays up in the filter. The only way to get it out is to run fresh water through it, It always made me feel like I was wasting some.

Bateman54199
02-16-2009, 07:52 PM
SWIM wants to shoot a 30mg IR roxicodone. Will this tut work for that. SWIM is also shooting his first bag of dope tomorrow.

Also, my boy and SWIM are both 100% clean and he says I can "bleach" his needle. and use it. If not, where can SWIM get a needle?

thanks

roxi*stardust
02-16-2009, 08:50 PM
SWIM wants to shoot a 30mg IR roxicodone. Will this tut work for that. SWIM is also shooting his first bag of dope tomorrow.
Also, my boy and SWIM are both 100% clean and he says I can "bleach" his needle. and use it. If not, where can SWIM get a needle?
thanks
Please stop at the Harm Reduction forum and do some reading. It's better to think that nobody is clean because the fact is you never know. DO NOT SHARE NEEDLES! Please go to our Harm Reduction forum before you do anything. It's not worth getting a disease like Hep C or HIV.
http://forum.opiophile.org/forumdisplay.php?f=71

mick29
04-19-2009, 01:18 PM
SWIM wants to shoot a 30mg IR roxicodone. Will this tut work for that. SWIM is also shooting his first bag of dope tomorrow.

Also, my boy and SWIM are both 100% clean and he says I can "bleach" his needle. and use it. If not, where can SWIM get a needle?

thanks

You CAN'T be serious!?!...EVERYONE in my little circle was "100% clean"...We used bleach, heat, etc., etc., EveryTime....I've had Hep C for 25 years now...You DON'T want to go there. (That's an underlined capital period!)
Listen to ROXI! Here in Ohio you can obtain 200, 1cc, 29 gauge, 1/2" points for >$30, (>$15/100 incl. shipping on the internet..2-3 days & they're @ your door...Use them ONCE then break the needle OFF!!(JMO...you get a nice sharp point everytime & temptation is averted)
I'm not going to preach.. (pot calling the kettle black... yada, yada)..BUT it sounds like you're rushing into this and believe me....anyway....give it a long hard think......please don't share needles....mick

DreamSellerInc
06-14-2009, 05:06 PM
I find that if i use less water for ANY shot, it hits me stronger as the solution is more concentrated. maybe almost 1 unit per miligram of oxy. K4's and K8's i use about 25-30 CCs.

I used to use a lot of water, but when i started doing blow it seemed to become clear that the less water used in prep makes the solution stronger.

heat is a must, not too hot, but just a wittle. enough to make the solution less cloudy and the waxy shit clump up

edit: it seems like the guy above me ^^^mick29 posted one time just so he could make a post telling dude not to reuse a needle. responsible guy. and obviously, you get them at a pharmacy

dieselbaby
07-01-2009, 07:44 PM
I find that if i use less water for ANY shot, it hits me stronger as the solution is more concentrated. maybe almost 1 unit per miligram of oxy. K4's and K8's i use about 25-30 CCs.


A 1mL shot will not hit you any less hard than a 1/3mL or a 1/2mL shot.

butane
07-16-2009, 09:54 PM
I disagree, in my experience the less water I use and the faster I can get it in there, the harder I'm hit. If at all possible, 30 units is the amount I shoot for (pun not intended), and 70 is the max I can do one-handed with the syringes I use. Once I know I'm in a vein, I try to pump it in less than a second.

I have next to no tolerance though, I am (at this point anyway) both a chipper and an IV user, so if you had a tolerance perhaps this slight difference would become unnoticeable.

losangeleslifer
07-16-2009, 10:04 PM
^^^

I think my man was trying to show a less harmful way to do this.

If you wanna throw this thread out the window, go ahead. But please do it quietly.

Raekwon
07-16-2009, 10:04 PM
I disagree, in my experience the less water I use and the faster I can get it in there, the harder I'm hit. If at all possible, 30 units is the amount I shoot for (pun not intended), and 70 is the max I can do one-handed with the syringes I use. Once I know I'm in a vein, I try to pump it in less than a second.

I have next to no tolerance though, I am (at this point anyway) both a chipper and an IV user, so if you had a tolerance perhaps this slight difference would become unnoticeable.

how many mg are you putting in the spoon though?

butane
07-16-2009, 10:08 PM
Sorry, my bad, this is a pretty bad derail. My last post in here to avoid clutter, I either eat 20mg and then shoot 20mg when I feel it start to kick in, or shoot 30-40mg all at once, and I get blasted.

lib.sOCialist
07-24-2009, 03:53 PM
Id like to add, then whenever i shoot pills, i do a 2nd wash almost immediately after i get my first one
drawn up, i can tell by the taste of each shot which one is the first wash and which is the 2nd, i
ALWAYS get around ~20% (when your doing 300mg+ shots, this is alot) of my first shot in the 2nd wash and save it for when the first shot's rush
wears off. I hate feeling like i lost some, and since i have a surplus of syringes i see no problem with this. does anyone else do this, krink? bodytec?

bodytec
07-24-2009, 07:00 PM
Id like to add, then whenever i shoot pills, i do a 2nd wash almost immediately after i get my first one
drawn up, i can tell by the taste of each shot which one is the first wash and which is the 2nd, i
ALWAYS get around ~20% (when your doing 300mg+ shots, this is alot) of my first shot in the 2nd wash and save it for when the first shot's rush
wears off. I hate feeling like i lost some, and since i have a surplus of syringes i see no problem with this. does anyone else do this, krink? bodytec?

you know this,son!
krink's shots are bigger than mine,but i can get down too,my boy!
second washthru usually comes immediately like you said.
sometimes i'll do the first with abt 30 units then put twenty thru the muck,
then pull that up along with the first thirty and do my complete 120mg in 50 units!
(i think 120 will diss into 50u)

Tbird921
09-06-2009, 06:01 AM
SWIM wants to shoot a 30mg IR roxicodone. Will this tut work for that. SWIM is also shooting his first bag of dope tomorrow.

Also, my boy and SWIM are both 100% clean and he says I can "bleach" his needle. and use it. If not, where can SWIM get a needle?

thanks
good luck, its much easier to prep a roxi ir 30mg just crush stir around and draw up same with dope, oc are just tougher but make sure you have your own rig.

The_Highwayman
09-13-2009, 05:46 PM
I wish I had known these threads and info when I was shooting my roxi's I used to cook the shit out of them, and thought THAT was the best way...

mtren
11-05-2009, 02:58 PM
that is a good safe way to do it, but it seemes much easier to dissolve it with a little heat. also it is a lot of work to filter it multiple times, espically when im sick you know i dont wanna spend another 10 min filtering it when i have it right there loaded in front of my face ready to bang lol. also i just filter it one time using a tip of a q tip and never had any problems, i usually wash the area with soap and water about half the time and use neosporan on the injection site prob once or twice a day it really seems to help keep the tracks a lot less noticable

China white
11-05-2009, 03:04 PM
I also disagree on the use of heat. I always use just a little bit. I don't bring it to a boil, but just get a little bit of steam to come off of it. When you heat it like that, it seems to separate the oxy from the fillers a lot better. The filler drops right to the bottom and the oxy dissolves into the water. Try it sometimes and you'll see what I mean.


I def agree about the heat......just before a boil is where to be....I have a question if thats cool....what do you prefer as shooting roxis or oxis? ive always heard roxis is easier, the only time i did roxis there was a blue tint to the solution and the time i did oxis there was shit still at the bottom of the spoon, i assume that was the filler

mtren
11-08-2009, 09:19 AM
i have 2 questions they might be stupid questions but i dont think they are lol

what is a "second wash" ? is that the same as reusing cottons?
and
when you filter it multiple times ... you dont think you will lose any oxy? it seems like some would be lost to me

Westside
11-10-2009, 03:11 AM
i have 2 questions they might be stupid questions but i dont think they are lol

what is a "second wash" ? is that the same as reusing cottons?
and
when you filter it multiple times ... you dont think you will lose any oxy? it seems like some would be lost to me

second wash is where you take your leftover oxy mush after the first heating/cookup, and recooking it again to get the leftover oxycodone out of the mush.

once you run out of OC's to cookup, you can throw all of your old once-cooked mushies into a spoon together and get a nice shot out of it, no reason throwing away the once-cooked mushies when they still have oxycodone in it. :cool:

Tainted
01-20-2010, 12:21 AM
I should also point out that the solubility for oxycodone in water is listed as 166 mg/mL. From my experiments I've found that to get the maximum amount of water (and most bang for your buck if you need to shoot stupid amounts of OC, aka the max per shot (160 mg...I need to do like 320 mg at a time to feel it) back, you can use 130 units if you're using 2 x OC80s or 4 x OC40s and you'll get back 100 units on the dot.


Something I've been wondering about the solubility of oxy (and morphine and really any other pill you shoot)

The listed solubility is 160mg per 1ml, but that is talking about PURE oxycodone powder in water right?

I've got to assume that oxycodone is not the ONLY water soluble element of a roxy or oxy. So, since you have more then just oxy dissolving, does that mean you can fit less oxy? Let's say theres 160mg of oxycodone in your spoon, and 10mg of a non-oxy water soluble particle. Would your final shot contain less then 160mg of oxy (let's say 150mg, but really it could be anywhere between 150 and 160)


The reason I ask this, two 80s it's probably not THAT big of a deal, but I typically shoot 5 roxy 30mg's at a time. I use normally 120 units of water, and get back around 80 units. It's a bitch to get it all sucked up, I end up dropping the cotton on the soggy powder and pushing down really hard to kind of squeeze the last of the water out.

I know it'd be easier to do it in multiple shots, but if I do that I feel as if I don't get any rush. I may be leaving oxy behind in the spoon, but after years of trial and error I've found I get a better rush and high if I do as many pills in the spoon as I can, followed up with 1-2 cottonshots (second one is normally overkill I doubt there's anything left as the water barely has a taste, but I do it just to be sure)


Really, it doesn't matter what the answer to this is, if someone tells me I'm right, and the non-oxy water solubles in the pill take up room, there's nothing I can really do to prevent that from happening. I'm just interested to know if my shots top out around 160mg, or if it's possible it's less.


Also, I don't ever cook my pills at all, I use luke warm water, room temp. But, I definitely get higher/way bigger rush from shooting 8 roxy 30's then I do from shooting 5 roxy 30's (that would be 240mg vs 150mg, technically anything past 5 would be a complete waste and it gets left behind for your cotton)

duck
01-20-2010, 12:27 AM
You're making me jones talking about shooting oxy! yumm.

dieselbaby
01-20-2010, 01:24 AM
Tainted, I'm not sure on your solubility question, but I think it would be more efficient for you to do EXACTLY the method I outlined in the first post - get some of those oral syringes, you will definitely get back more than 80 units if you're throwing down 120 to start with.

euphoricontin17
01-20-2010, 08:32 AM
I try to add this to every thread I read just because I don't want to see it happen to someone else.... Make sure to wipe the tip of your needle before shooting any pills, especially time-released one and super especially Oxycontins. I didn't and now I have wax deposits all over my arms. When you stick your spike in the cotton, it gets covered in the wax, when you stick it in your arm and pull it out, the wax stays behind, not too cool.

Opie I. T.
01-20-2010, 11:27 AM
I try to add this to every thread I read just because I don't want to see it happen to someone else.... Make sure to wipe the tip of your needle before shooting any pills, especially time-released one and super especially Oxycontins. I didn't and now I have wax deposits all over my arms. When you stick your spike in the cotton, it gets covered in the wax, when you stick it in your arm and pull it out, the wax stays behind, not too cool.

interesting comments, ec17. what do these wax deposits look like? i understand the concern for a clean needle tip before pushing in, but how do you clean the tip w/o damaging it? this may be why the oral syringe is good idea for prepping pills, esp oc.

Tainted
01-20-2010, 02:05 PM
I try to add this to every thread I read just because I don't want to see it happen to someone else.... Make sure to wipe the tip of your needle before shooting any pills, especially time-released one and super especially Oxycontins. I didn't and now I have wax deposits all over my arms. When you stick your spike in the cotton, it gets covered in the wax, when you stick it in your arm and pull it out, the wax stays behind, not too cool.


Yeah, that is actually something I do. I've always been worried I was going to puncture the vein with the pill particulates still on the tip of the syringe and end up having an aneurysm or something.

China white
01-27-2010, 10:44 AM
Well, I see a lot of people on here talking about IVing oxy or pills in general and there is sadly a lot of misinformation out there and bad habits that can be potentially dangerous. Now, before I go any further in posting this I think it should be said that IVing pills in general is a bad idea and will fuck your veins up really quickly. This won't keep anyone from doing it though, so if you're going to be shooting pills you might as well be doing it in a safer way.

The tools you need to do this are:



your OC (duh)
paper towels
cup with water
a small dixie cup or shot glass
an oral syringe (you can get them for free at CVS at the pharmacy counter - just ask for it) - any size is good but I prefer to have an assortment and the 1mL and 5mL are great
an insulin syringe (duh v 2.0)
cotton for filtering
2 spoons - preferrably one that is ladle-like and one that is more flat (info on this below)


When I shoot OC, I apply the rule of thumb that every 80mg of powder you need 1cc (1 mL) of water. Use purified water; or if not available, use distilled or bottled water (try to stay away from tap and spring water). They make a brand of water called "Penta" that is the purest water available on the market (in terms of drinking water) - this stuff is great for shooting. To get the coating off of the pill, dip a napkin or paper towel into water and take the coating off...do NOT suck on it, you will get unnecessary germs on the pill. I should also point out that the solubility for oxycodone in water is listed as 166 mg/mL. From my experiments I've found that to get the maximum amount of water (and most bang for your buck if you need to shoot stupid amounts of OC, aka the max per shot (160 mg...I need to do like 320 mg at a time to feel it) back, you can use 130 units if you're using 2 x OC80s or 4 x OC40s and you'll get back 100 units on the dot.

Get two spoons, preferrably one flat and one like a soup ladle or a deep spoon you can prep the shot in. Take your pill, put it on the flat spoon with the coating taken off, and crush it onto the flat spoon with the back of the rounded (deep) ladle/spoon. Then take the powder off the flat spoon and put it back into the ladle. Get yourself an oral syringe (or a syringe without a needle - you can do this with a regular syringe but I don't reccomend it, my method allows you to do a safer and more efficient extraction) and measure out 1 mL (1cc, 100 units) of water.

Cover the powder with water (COLD water works best), and then begin to stir it up with the orange cap on your needle. Stir it up real nice into the cold water. DO NOT ADD HEAT, it will only serve to help melt nasty fillers and wax particulates that you do NOT want dissolving into your shot. Stir it, it will get cloudy and you will see the wax particles start to coagulate in the liquid. You can let it sit for a couple of minutes to make sure that all of the oxy has gone into solution. Get a nice tight wet piece of cotton, drop it in, and draw it up into the oral syringe (this is also much easier than drawing it into a syringe with a needle attached).

Once it's drawn up, shoot the liquid back into a shot glass or a dixie cup. Repeat the above step, re-filtering it until you don't see any particulates in the liquid, it should be completely clear but the smell of the liquid should REEK of oxy and be very bitter tasting. Then filter at least 2x more with the oral syringe.

Use a micron wheel filter if you have access to one after this. This is a great method for preparing the pills before micron filtering so you don't destroy your filter. Shooting pills is not safe. The method I use seeks to eliminate most of the risks, but IVing is inherently risky in itself, so be careful. Make sure that all your equipment is cleaned with alcohol and hot water beforehand, and use a clean needle (duh), and use that needle only once! Wipe yourself with an alcohol wipe before and after the shot. Also, wash your hands! Most people overlook this, and it's a big thing when it comes to keeping shit as safe as possible.

Happy blasting! By the way, this method works (and is preferred) for Roxis, dilaudid and any other water-soluble pill without the stupid time-release mechanisms.

All the oxy will readily dissolve into the cold water, do not bother saving the gunk left over
in the spoon, it is all crap and fillers...you can keep it, sure, as you might not get all the stuff out on your first extraction - and it's always nice to save a 'wash' for when you're hurting, but realistically, the better you get at this - the less there will be left over in the spoon.

how do you know you got all the oc out of the gunk left in the spoon, or even most of it? for this reason I swollow everything left on the spoon.

OrangeLude
01-27-2010, 11:46 AM
You're making me jones talking about shooting oxy! yumm.

+1

Thanks for the write up DieselB - excellent for those that want to know...

proceed with caution when going down the rabbit hole...is the finest advice.

then enjoy the journey.

tui
02-25-2010, 03:16 AM
I've never done this with oxy before, so I have a question.

When I prep a ritalin, I heat it, then put the spoon on ice- cooling it from a boil separates the wax out.

Is this a good method for oxy? Anyone know?

Cheers

Thanat0s
02-25-2010, 05:20 AM
I've never done this with oxy before, so I have a question.

When I prep a ritalin, I heat it, then put the spoon on ice- cooling it from a boil separates the wax out.

Is this a good method for oxy? Anyone know?

Cheers
very good method for oxy,
i use .5units hot water, miximixmix,
then hit the spoon with ice cold,
pops the wax cake right up.

feelings of u4ia
03-04-2010, 11:57 PM
very good method for oxy,
i use .5units hot water, miximixmix,
then hit the spoon with ice cold,
pops the wax cake right up.


Can anyone confirm that this is a safe AND effective way of getting the wax out of Oxycontin? I haven't been heating them in fear of the wax melting in with the mix I shoot and eventually cooling back up into my veins?

GimpLeg
03-05-2010, 01:58 PM
you've got access to shoot at least ten 80's in a day, why don't you go ahead and try it with one.

JUNKYJAY
11-04-2010, 06:23 PM
So I have been shootong OXY since 2001 and have always heated a bit not boil the shit to death just a bit. I have tryed the just cold water Method and think that a lil heat works way better then No heat. This was done one day first shot heat fix and one day first shot cold fix and the Hot fix worked better. IMO

harmonik
11-04-2010, 06:38 PM
A pretty good way I found out to get the most oxy as possible from a pill..

With OG oxycontin, I'd crush/grind the pill and place it in the spoon, then add half a mL of water and heat (don't boil) until the wax sticks together and floats to the top... then I let it cool down to the point where the wax isn't sticky, add about .3mL water and use the end of a rig to crush the wax up again.. It turns very powdery yet again. Draw it up, add another .2mL water to the spoon, crush the wax some more and there ya go.

I generally don't get a very good second wash with this method so I've been pretty pleased with trying to get the most out of it


edit: damn! I just realized that this thread is 8 months old...whoops

sourcecod
05-18-2011, 07:55 PM
Once the OG is powdered and mixed in the spoon and cooled to a constant 43 degrees fahrenheit, how long should SWIM let it settle? How often should SWIM stir? I hate to bump an old thread, but I can't help it. I have been using this method for nearly half a year and I cannot seem to ever come to a conclusion as to how long it should set for and how often to stir. In any event, the shots always come out flawless as can be. I bump and ask only because I figured my stint with OGs was soon to be at an end, until this morning SWIM found a bottle of OG40s in the back of his truck dated April of 2009. I paid him a handsome sum for it, but I laughed when I thought that for all this time SWIM has been driving around without the knowledge of having a full unopened script in his backseat buried under trash that was buried under trash; imagine had he been pulled over and searched! It's amazing how lucky some people get. So to celebrate the occasion, I let four of them soak for two and a half hours before triple filtering and doing it up right (10 mins ag0). A little bit of tagamet and some others and I'm happy and dumb. So, for the bumping, I won't derail any further.
+1 because this thread is the shit

what temp do you prefer to cool your water or saline to? (this is for the non-heaters like me)
Heaters, what is the max temp you heat your water to? (if you know...)
how long do you let the powder settle for in the cold water/saline?
how often do you stir the powder?

I'd be happy to see what people think for OG40s ( what SWIM is currently mostly stocked with). OG60s & OG20s (what swim is partially stocked with), dillies, Roxis (indicate type+dosage), other?
again, sorry to bump, should this be a new thread referencing this thread? (due to age but mostly to the fact that most lack OGs as of late)

side note: someone asked me earlier today how I measure my fluid temp and I told him Fluke MiniTemp gun works wonders.

mainline
05-19-2011, 12:55 AM
Once the OG is powdered and mixed in the spoon and cooled to a constant 43 degrees fahrenheit, how long should SWIM let it settle? How often should SWIM stir? I hate to bump an old thread, but I can't help it. I have been using this method for nearly half a year and I cannot seem to ever come to a conclusion as to how long it should set for and how often to stir. In any event, the shots always come out flawless as can be. I bump and ask only because I figured my stint with OGs was soon to be at an end, until this morning SWIM found a bottle of OG40s in the back of his truck dated April of 2009. I paid him a handsome sum for it, but I laughed when I thought that for all this time SWIM has been driving around without the knowledge of having a full unopened script in his backseat buried under trash that was buried under trash; imagine had he been pulled over and searched! It's amazing how lucky some people get. So to celebrate the occasion, I let four of them soak for two and a half hours before triple filtering and doing it up right (10 mins ag0). A little bit of tagamet and some others and I'm happy and dumb. So, for the bumping, I won't derail any further.
+1 because this thread is the shit

what temp do you prefer to cool your water or saline to? (this is for the non-heaters like me)
Heaters, what is the max temp you heat your water to? (if you know...)
how long do you let the powder settle for in the cold water/saline?
how often do you stir the powder?

I'd be happy to see what people think for OG40s ( what SWIM is currently mostly stocked with). OG60s & OG20s (what swim is partially stocked with), dillies, Roxis (indicate type+dosage), other?
again, sorry to bump, should this be a new thread referencing this thread? (due to age but mostly to the fact that most lack OGs as of late)

side note: someone asked me earlier today how I measure my fluid temp and I told him Fluke MiniTemp gun works wonders.




really? Exact water temps? Cooled to 43 degrees? You really are crazy.

Some people heat it some.You can kinda see the stuff settle at the bottom of the liquid in the spoon. Making the small amout of gunk less annoying. Honestly, The chunky wax when shooting OG OC isn't really an issue, it never was for me anyway, so IDK. And My washes were never anything you could "feel".

I don't heat anymore though. ( I used to, when I was first starting. I see no noticable difference.) I just use lukewarm or medium hot tap water. Occasionally I'll go cold water for a change up. No difference for me though.

I never let it "sit", really. I'd grind it to powder with a ped egg (over the spoon) after I took the coating off. Then add 1-ish cc of water to powdered OC. Stir for a few seconds( till all the powder is covered. Drop in cotton, then Draw up. If you get it all up , you should get like between 60-80 units back, Steilize tip of syringe, and wipe injection site, the blast off. If you want, with another syringe, add 10-15 units of more water to your spoon an draw up with original syringe,just to get some more goodies out.


No reason to make this a new thread. It is a stickied thread anyway.



You're a lunatic, but I love you.


Sorry for adding to the threadcrophilia, but figured this would be an okay bump since there are a bunc of new members. I didn't read the thread, so idk if this applies to Roxis or just OC's, cause if its just OC it is kinda useless. anyway blah




EIT: The solubility of Oxycodone HcL in water is 150mg per ML. For all the noobs, that means no matter how many pills you throw in a spoon, the most oxy that will make it back into a 1cc (the standad syringe) is 150mg. The rest will be left in the wash (aka: spoon hit, spoon pop, spoon shot, cotton shot, ect).

Slight de-rail, but for the noobs, since we're on the topic of solubility, only 60mg of Morphine Sulfate fits into a 1cc syringe, no matter how many pills you throw in the spoon. Just an FYI

sourcecod
05-19-2011, 10:18 AM
You're a lunatic, but I love you.




Even slighter derail, but yes, mainline thank you I appreciate your honesty and love. Many people IRL call me a lunatic for buying crazy tools specifically for measuring and bringing to and holding a constant temperature. The Fluke Mini temp gun is great for those who add heat but don't want to boil because they can watch the temperature climb and then pull away the heat source as the temp gets closer to 200 degrees or so. But yeah, I have been using this method mostly on OG40s that I have saved up and Roxi20s and Roxi30s that I get pretty regularly. This method is golden!

The Ryan
05-19-2011, 11:32 AM
all i know is my shot will be 98.6 degrees very soon.

fearofnormalcy
05-19-2011, 11:36 AM
all i know is my shot will be 98.6 degrees very soon.

so funny, i just spit ramen noodles all over my MacBook Pro!

sourcecod
05-26-2011, 04:22 PM
now this may sound looney, but I actually saved the fillers from my last 20-30 OG40s that I did this way and let them dry dry dry for a few weeks... once powder again, I snorted it just for the nostalgia of that smell... somehow, I magically got a buzz out of the minute amounts left, but I had to snort stupid amount of powder... it was fun though... almost like a placebo of snorting a bunch of OG 40s and I just chewed up some OP40s to make myself feel like I was getting "higher" from the nearly useless powder from the beloved old OGs... now mainline, you may truly call me a lunatic. I admit it in full; I am a lunatic... Because not only did I stack up a pile of OG40s, I dry and snort them later after banging most of the goodies out anyway!

Boognish
05-26-2011, 05:15 PM
all i know is my shot will be 98.6 degrees very soon.

HI fucking LARIOUS

mor-fiend
05-31-2011, 06:37 PM
Does this method work for the little oxy 5mg pills... no I am not talking about percs.

sourcecod
06-05-2011, 05:55 PM
Does this method work for the little oxy 5mg pills... no I am not talking about percs.

I have done this method a few times with success with the little white sheisty 5mg roxi's. it just sux cuz I have to crush up like 8-16 of them and add like fuckin 3ml or more water, stirr for minutes minutes minutes.... and then pull up 2-3 100unit shots. those lil 5's beat having percs hands down, but when crushed, they result in a fuckton of powder! which requires more water/saline.

ANXIOLYTIC
01-13-2012, 06:48 PM
Yah great post I do same thing, I love getting the 3ml and like 20 of 1ml singles and switch new smaller guage cap from 1ml ones onto same 3 ml one, this way you can suck up with needles off, they sell both at SAFEWAY for 25cents each.

jill
01-13-2012, 10:39 PM
^ ^ This thread is over 3 years old and hasn't been posted in in over 6 months. Please check thread dates before posting.

Since the OxyContin formula has changed since this thread was posted and written in, it likely isn't fully accurate anymore. Time to give this sticky a rest.