Crying.. or wanting to cry on subs :-(

[simfromstoke]

ok let me explain..
if ive been on the gear for a few days, when i switch back onto the subs, as the bupe is entering my system, i get like half an hour of *wanting* to burst into tears

you know that over-emotional "i could cry if i saw a cat die on tv" feeling

i get this wanting to cry feeling like 80% of the times i do a switch(and ive been on subs for a year now and am totally aware of their effects on me)..

50% of the time i'll just walk off, go have a 2 minute sob to myself then all is fine, im totally happy to be back on the subs, and the crying feeling just goes away, never to return

at the time, mentally, when the subs are taking their place in my chemistry again, it *feels* like the opiates are being ripped from their receptors and i cant help *but* burst into tears

its no-way a sad or depressed *wanting to cry feeling* i just feel at the time like bursting into tears

and like i said, 50% of the time i'll go have a 2 minute sob and all is well with the world again, and 50% of the time i cant cry right there, because of the present situation

and i dont get this feeling *every-time* i do a switch, just most of the time
and because im totally aware of what the subs are gonna do to me i try to be by myself for that 1st half an hour of a switch

after that first half an hour i am TOTALLY fine and 9/10 buzzing to be back on the subbies..

i was just wondering..
does *anyone* else get teary-eyed when coming off smack and going back onto their subs..?
(or is it just me...LOL)

-sim

[Chipper]

Crying is another way the body generates an endorphin release, just in case you weren't aware. It's a sign of w/d, for sure. Ok, sorry to butt in ...

[simfromstoke]

Crying is another way the body generates an endorphin release, just in case you weren't aware. It's a sign of w/d, for sure. Ok, sorry to butt in ...


i haven t rattled in over a year mate... ;-)

sorry i forgot to mention that..

when doing a switch, i'll have smack right up uptil 1am the night before,
then the next day i wake up at whatever time and just get straight on the subbies.

normally within 20 minutes i get this *wanting to cry feeling* (which lasts for 30 mins tops)
then im totally FINE and loving the fact that im back on the subbies..

wierd i know

its just the ways subbies enter my brain chemistry

and i just wondered if anyone else ever has those same pesky *teary* feelings when subutex is taking a hold again...



thanks for mentioning that though mate!
i forgot to say! doh!!

peace out
-sim

[ka11ink]

Not a very macho guy type thing to say but I think it is good for everyone to have a good random cry once in a while. It really does generate the endorphins and shit that makes us feel good and it helps to get all the weight off our shoulders and to get rid of built up stress and worries.

[simfromstoke]

tiz true...

[duck]

I've never had this feeling, and switch back to subs pretty frequently. Hmm, I wonder what it's from.

[Seedy]

I had a similar reaction last night. I'd been on a minimal dose of subs - like 1mg for 3 days, .5mg the next day, then a day off (with oxy & PST 2-3 times daily). last night i took 1.5mg up the nose thinking i'd still have enough in my system to easily switch. for about 45 minutes I was sweating profusely and could have burst into tears at any moment. After an hour I was feeling ok and took another ~1.5mg and some St Johns Wort. It all kicked in very nicely, a definate opiate buzz. Well worth 45 minutes of feeling a bit shit. And another funny thing, usually i find snorting subs to be pretty easy on the nose but that first 1.5mg hurt like hell and made my nose run like I was in (precipitated?) withdrawals. Strange stuff!

[Synack]

I cry all the fucking time in w/d... seriously... I watched Lost tonight, and seeing those folks not die in the 'copter crash got me in fucking tears...

life sucks right now.

[SurfRat]

subs are strange drug,
first time I tried them, I got super/major depressed, so much so that I would never take subs again,
although it's possible I did to much dose, but I didn't take much.

[SeVeN]

Not a very macho guy type thing to say but I think it is good for everyone to have a good random cry once in a while. It really does generate the endorphins and shit that makes us feel good and it helps to get all the weight off our shoulders and to get rid of built up stress and worries.

Men should only cry by themselves with a bottle of liquor:sick2:

[Hoss]

Interesting you bring this up; though I have never thought about it much, now that you mention it however I have always noticed that when I am going through light and entering mid-stage withdrawal, my emotional levels begin to take a somewhat 'front and center' prominence within my overall perception at said point. Usually my levels of anxiety, racing mind and in particular the darker shades of the spectrum - depression/sadness - become much more amplified than usual, thus indeed during these times I have found myself shedding tears in impromptu sessions from time to time.

Last time this occurred I was withdrawing after quite a long stint, and while wrapped up like some sort of opiate-sweating nonsensical human burrito in front of the television (see : Hoss wrapped up haphazardly in a funky lint-ball riddled old school yarn based quilty) on came one of those ASPCA commercials that features singer Sarah McLachlan as a representative of the organization and, as you may or may not know, during this commercial that features picutres and videos of sick and malnutritioned animals in captivity awaiting folks to adopt them, the aforementioned artists' song "In The Arms Of The Angel" plays in the background simultainously with the sickly skinny animal footage I just mentioned.

I myself am an animal lover, and even during a drunken 18-pack excursion on the last day of July 2003 I found myself accidentally ordering 11 gray extra-large ASPCA t-shirts via their internet online virtual shop - they were surely in "hooray status (!!!)" due to my well timed key stroke error; I meant to buy 1 shirt, not 11!

Heh, anyways, long story short, when that commercial came on I saw a cat that looked extremely similar to my old cat Parker who I rescued from the streets back in 2004, and seeing that sent me into a wild rage of tears as he died of disease that he supposedly had gotten his shots for (the vets messed up), however to this day I still feel responsible for his death, especially as I was in a REAL bad opiated mess at the time of his euthanasia.

Being a 'weekend warrior woah-bobo' at times with Buprenorphine, I notice elevated emotional tendencies during the "transfer" period - that being during the time I am waiting for the Bup to clear my system in order to feel other opiates, or especially during the time adjusting back into the Buprenorphine world, which on short lived opiate excursions could be a few days but on longers ones could be weeks, as I recently discovered late last year.

In the end, I shall stop my Monday night babble in this post now, but to answer your question, YES, I indeed have felt the same way on occasions, and although I do not cry that much at all in general, there has been a couple of times that I shed a tear during the trench transfers we put ourselves through. Cheers all.