Piracetam: brain booster

[Nostromos]

Piracetam appears to be the most effective drug in a group called "smart drugs," or Nootropics. I never paid them much attention before recently because I was so interested in just killing pain, but I've researched a little and they actually look like they work. Now that I've climbed out of the pit I was in and am actually interested in life again, I want to try this stuff. A link from Erowid.org says it's remarkably free of side effects, but it works in part by stimulating the front part of your brain-- coincidentally, one of the same things morphine does.

I know there's a huge industry for bullshit psychoactives, but the words floating around about it smell like the truth.

[pinn3d]

cool--- try it out and let us know how it goes....

[Mayo]

The words been floating around for a decade or more, but yeah try it out.

[Shuteyetrain]

This post inspired me to read more about Piracetam, and I found some good information on erowid and wikipedia (good info on wikipedia may be an oxymoron to some). I had experimented with Modafinil (Provagil) in the past, but the cost was too prohibitive for me to continue with that. I ended up buying a 700 gram tub on Piracetam on Amazon for $30. I am planning on taking around 2 grams in the morning with my breakfast for a month, and I will dutifully keep records of any and all effects. As a student, Im always looking for an edge, so I thank you for cluing me into Piracetam. Cheers,
Shuteyetrain

[chopstix]

I've had Piracetam, ordered a bunch from yurp once - I liked it, my experience wasn't as profound as some of the reports I read but there was a definite feeling of improved cognition and clarity as well as mood - similar to stims but not really stimulating at all aside from cognition enhancement, "wakes up my brain" is a good description that I read and found true. It improves oxygen flow to the brain (I think it's used for hypoxia tx and is extremely effective as a neuro-protectant during oxygen starvation), and it enhances communication between the hemispheres of the brain; very interesting compound with a lot of beneficial effects, and as stated, it's literally non-toxic, last I read they still hadn't found a lethal or even toxic dosage, although it's been awhile since I've read up on current neurotoxicity thoughts so don't quote that.

I think that some of the stronger analogues (I'm at 3hrs of sleep in 4 days - is that the right word? Think so but my brain farted) (Oxiracetam, Aniracetam) may have some degree of toxicity but still very little, if any at all.

Far too lazy to research now, I need some fucking sleep, smart-drugs.com has some info and there were a couple books (Smart Drugs I & II?) written by a couple guys, Dean Morgenthaler and someone else, can't remember the other name atm.

http://www.nootropic.com is a part of hedweb, the hedonist imperative, and is a good read on nootropics as well as a great site on psychoactives in general. It's been around for years, I think it was someone's thesis in it's infancy, I'm pretty sure I came across hedweb late 90s. Good stuff.

There are a ton of other cognitive enhancers and memory boosters as well. Fascinating to me, I was just thinking that it would be interesting to do some research and see if anything is currently thought to be any better or worse than the point at which I was researching them. Vinpo, Vasopressin (i think prescribed in the states, not many are but you can import small amounts if you jump through a couple hoops), l-Deprenyl is prescribed for something in the states but not for general use...

Great topic. Anti-aging is another one that's fascinating to me. I think they'll find the aging switch in the next 10-20 years, if that..

I'd be really interested to read any other first hand accounts with any of these compounds or boards that discuss this stuff. It's been awhile and I'd like to catch up..

[Mayo]

think that some of the stronger analogues (I'm at 3hrs of sleep in 4 days - is that the right word? Think so but my brain farted) (Oxiracetam, Aniracetam) may have some degree of toxicity but still very little, if any at all.


I've had keppra (Levetiracetam), the c-methyl analog of piracetam.
It had a calming effect for the first few days, then I started having face-to-face conversations with my dad, who was in another state.
IOW, I began hallucinating.
I was taking it for hypomania, but it was clear the keppra precipitated the hallucinations.

[sidman]

Provigil I like. It is,for some reason,a schedule II drug isn't it? I could be wrong. It was presribed to the patient for narcolepsy. I tried it to see if it was good to go to work on and it is.I take about 400 mg's and it does give a "brain-boost" without any speedy effects. If I take it directly with my subs it seems to potentiate the sube=s a little or it just may be a placebo effect I guess.

[Shuteyetrain]

Provigil I like. It is,for some reason,a schedule II drug isn't it? I could be wrong. It was presribed to the patient for narcolepsy. I tried it to see if it was good to go to work on and it is.I take about 400 mg's and it does give a "brain-boost" without any speedy effects. If I take it directly with my subs it seems to potentiate the sube=s a little or it just may be a placebo effect I guess.

Yeah, I liked the provagil, and 2 400mg doses helped me pass my finals last semester. I got it from an Indian e-pharmacy, and it was called "Modalert". It was legit, though.

[Nostromos]

i'm finally back and sad to report that the piracetam didn't work. I ordered a big bottle from Relentless Improvement and took an attack dose of 2400mg, followed by 1600mg twice daily. I thought I felt a little better at first, but after about a week my girlfriend noticed that I was less motivated and "sliding backwards" in life performance. I'm anxious anyways, but there was a spike in my anxiety levels so intense that I couldn't enjoy any cognitive improvement. Things got bad enough that I just stopped taking it, and the anxiety attacks have gone away.

I'm really falling out of love with drugs. The most sinister thing is the conviction that I've damaged my already shaky brain with morphine and opium tea. I still pop a morphine or dilaudid every month or so out of sheer boredom and frustration, but it's never very much fun and it's always followed by four days of sleepiness, depression, and loss of motivation. Drugs have opened the door to some of the greatest joy of my life, but they just don't work like they used to.

How bout anyone here? Think opiates have damaged your brain?

[Jose]

I got good demonstrative results using piracetam. I think how one tests for results is important; it is not a drug that makes you "feel" smarter. It is best tested by doing something like a cognitive brain quiz before and after dosing.

The biggest improvement was in creative problem solving capability and ability to see spatial solutions where I could not see any before. An easy test would be to get the newspaper and try before and after with the jumble, soduku, and crossword.

[duck]

http://www.chemistryland.com/CHM107/Introduction/Audience/placebo..jpg

[chopstix]

^^ Bullshit - how many nootropics have you tried??

nootropic.com