expired morphine ?dangerous

[tazz]

if someone hypothetically had a intact ampoule of morphine with expiry date ~20 years ago which was found buried in dirt, would it be a bad idea to use this?

specifically: would it be possible for mptp to develop as a breakdown product in this hypothetical ampoule??

cheers

[devilsdrug]

don t know about amp but pills and other pharm concoctions are ok

[chemboy7]

I can assure you that the Morphine would not have converted into any MPTP... probably the only thing wrong with it is loss of potency, I still wouldn't IV it though. I think I would evaporate all the liquid portion of the ampule on the stove (I posted how to do this recently in a thread... can't remember which one) and work with the powder left behind insufflation-wise.

[Curio]

it was in the thread I started asking about the syringes, etc..

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=2051

thanks again everyone who pm'd and/or posted ~ a little info from experienced people is way better than learning everything the hard way, lol....

[exitwound]

Generally, expired meds are fine. The expiration dates are just mandated by law, they don't necessarily mean anything in the real world.

[chemboy7]

Interesting side note on expired meds, I have a freind who still has sample packs of Allobarbital from the late 60's in near mint condition (the packaging). Not worth taking but quite cool to have none the less.

[tazz]

chemboy: how can you be sure re mptp ? are the two molecules just to0 unrelated for a random process to link them? are you as your name suggests, a chemist?

[katomic]

:cheeky1: errr MPTP is from a bad fenatle (sp?) synth, it has absolutely Nothing to do with morphine


liquid suspensions tend to break down faster than pills but it wont hurt you if you drink it I have herd of older morphine/landum being used with success