Personal experiences w/ salvia divinorum

[pinn3d]

Someone in the forums was asking me about Salvia....

What are some of your personal experiences with the stuff?

Would you recommend it to someone who has never tried it, but has taken psychedelics before?


For me, Salvia is an interesting drug... but I wouldn't say it's recreational... maybe more educational/ introspective..... I've done it numerous times, and have never had a 'bad' time with it... sometimes a little overwhelming... always fascinating....sometimes humbling....

what do you guys think?

[rockbottom]

i think it is wickid shit it blew my mind --didnt know who or what i was --for one hit it took me to other planes of existence--but but i couldnt interact there bcause i didnt know what i was----i would recommend it to try at least once to put it into your resume--once was enough for me ---one word description --crazy----not the good crazy

[barbiegal]

What is it? Do you smoke it or is it pills? Is it legal to buy? My sons friends were talking about it one day,I never heard of it before then.

[StinkyPickle]

i think it is wickid shit it blew my mind --didnt know who or what i was --for one hit it took me to other planes of existence--but but i couldnt interact there bcause i didnt know what i was----i would recommend it to try at least once to put it into your resume--once was enough for me ---one word description --crazy----not the good crazy

Well put, Rock. At least with other hallucinogens you can interact with your "new surroundings". With Salvia, I felt like I was just visiting, or was completely surrounded by a story that someone else wrote, and I was just in the audience. The first time I tried it, I didn't smoke enough. I was giggly, and my arms were EXTREMELY heavy, and I was sweating quite profusely. The 2nd time I tried it I took 2 huge hits and layed down on a couch and closed my eyes. After about 10 seconds, I didn't even know what a couch was. Completely immersed in some other person's world, and when I came back, it felt like I was hovering above the couch and got dropped back down onto it.

[pinn3d]

What is it? Do you smoke it or is it pills? Is it legal to buy? My sons friends were talking about it one day,I never heard of it before then.
It's a plant.... you can eat it or smoke it.... but it's much more popular to smoke it.... some people smoke the leaves as they are.... but to really appreciate the effects you get a concentrated form (5x, 10x), and smoke that--- hold it in like there's no tomorrow, sit back and watch the show....

I guess w/ eating it you get a longer, mellower 'trip', but with smoking you get a short intense experience....

I'm sure some of the folks here with a knowledge in chemistry, chemicals, and the way they interact with the brain could give a better description of what's really going on when you take that stuff...

[barbiegal]

ok,thanks.;)

[jonny-5]

ok, well the first time i smoked salvia, it was the 6x extract and it was out of a 3 foot bong in my friends garage. this is what happened.

ok so i immediately forgot that i had ingested anything. then i dropped the bong, luckily it was plastic. i was the first person to try it out of my friends that were there, so after that we made a rule to pass the bong immediately after hitting salvia. so anyway, i was transported to pizzahut where i worked. i was outside smoking a cigarette and and my manager came out and told me to take out the trash. so i started taking out the trash. then all of a sudden i came to. i was taking the trash cans out to the curb and my friends mom was thanking me for taking the them out even though she had asked her son to do it.

then came his turn. we packed a bongload. he hit it. i grabbed the bong from him, and he got a very confused look on his face. he tried to speak, but nothing inteligable came out. he then dove to the floor and crouched in a ball in the corner for about a minute, and then came to. when he did, he told us that he, his mom, and his two little sisters were standing in the middle of a two lane highway and these very bright lights from a semi truck were heading towards them. they all tried to move but seemed paralized. they were then run over by this truck and flatened on the road. that was his first and last experience with salvia. whenever anyone even said the word salvia, he would always and still does say "fuck THAT shit."

then i hit it again, but this time only packed about half or 2/3 of what i had previously smoked. i passed the bong...and again immediately forgot that i had taken anything. my friend says i was speaking gibberish; i clearly was still in the garage, but all i could see were avacados. well, avacado patterns on everything in bright colors. it was strange. theres also a distinct feeling that comes along with salvia, one of confusion and fear because i can never figure out why i feel like this or whats going on...i never remember smoking anything.

hope that helps.

jonny

[StinkyPickle]

lol avocados. Any time I did acid or shrooms, paved roads always looked like oreo cookies and popcorn ceilings always looked like a bunch of frogs.

[barbiegal]

So it's basically a hallucinagetic? I don't think my kid does it,but I know atleast 2 of his friends tried it. Thanks..

[jonny-5]

lol avocados. Any time I did acid or shrooms, paved roads always looked like oreo cookies and popcorn ceilings always looked like a bunch of frogs.


yeah! popcorn ceilings are the best to trip off of with acid or shrooms. man i miss hallucinogenics now.


edit: and to barbiegal: yeah its a hallucinogenic, a very powerful but short acting one. its actually a kappa opioid receptor agonist if im not mistaken.

[pinn3d]

johnny-5- HEHEHE---- that's funny man--- no one got hurt-- just whacked shit goin down......are you a fan of avacados? Maybe some higher consciousness is telling you to eat them for the "good' monounsaturated fats that help lower bad cholesterol?? HEH---- I enjoy avocados....

[pinn3d]

So it's basically a hallucinagetic? I don't think my kid does it,but I know atleast 2 of his friends tried it. Thanks..
Barbiegal---- I think it is popular with teens because it's basically legal to buy it... there are many online vendors, and I know headshops used to sell it too...... I know that now some states have made it illegal....

I haven't had it in years....

[StinkyPickle]

Salvia Divinorum is actually a member of the sage family. The name literally means "divine sage". The hallucinogenic properties are very strong and very short-acting/lasting. Unless you've done it before, you can't prepare yourself for the experience. At least with other hallucinogens, it comes on fairly slow, and you can feel it starting to work. With Salvia, you are basically instantly transported to another dimension with no warning. The best advice I can give is have a babysitter to tell you that you just smoked salvia if you start to freak out. You seriously won't even remember that you just smoked some. That's how quick and intense it is.

[jonny-5]

i do enjoy a good avacado when i can.

[bigfootlives]

I remember smoking that shit with my buds on one cold winter night. We were outside in the snow because we weren't allowed to smoke in the house. We packed a pipe with a bowl of 20x and I took the first hoot. I think I pretty much cashed the whole thing in a single hoot because I had read about how to smoke salvia properly and hold it in for 30 seconds. Anyways by the time I exhaled I don't really remember what happened, it was quit unexplainable what I was thinking/seeing in my head, but apparently I took two steps forward and then kinda leaned on one of my friends and he moved and I hit the ground. All I could think of was coldness and death or something like that as if I had been in the arctic, but this was all because i was laying in the snow not knowing what the fuck was going on. When I was kind of coherent I got up and all I wanted to do was get inside from this frozen hell!! Definately not a party drug, but rather something I'd only do alone.

[StinkyPickle]

I remember smoking that shit with my buds on one cold winter night. We were outside in the snow because we weren't allowed to smoke in the house. We packed a pipe with a bowl of 20x and I took the first hoot. I think I pretty much cashed the whole thing in a single hoot because I had read about how to smoke salvia properly and hold it in for 30 seconds. Anyways by the time I exhaled I don't really remember what happened, it was quit unexplainable what I was thinking/seeing in my head, but apparently I took two steps forward and then kinda leaned on one of my friends and he moved and I hit the ground. All I could think of was coldness and death or something like that as if I had been in the arctic, but this was all because i was laying in the snow not knowing what the fuck was going on. When I was kind of coherent I got up and all I wanted to do was get inside from this frozen hell!! Definately not a party drug, but rather something I'd only do alone.

Did you get your mom to buy it for you? Sorry, couldn't resist. :p

[Raz]

Nice one..;)^^^^...Imma gona get some, (now i'm back on de wagon).....My wife wants to try it as well.....So the trip isnt very long and your rational after?.....

Coz its just gonna be me and her....What kinda surroundings would you recommend, like dim lighting, some tunes in the background, or what?....I know i will be able to find a vendor, either head shop or online....I'm pretty good buddies wiv a head shop owner, so he should be able to help me out....

I'm definately gonna do this....Do you think a small cam corder running in the background will affect my trip or do you just forget all past tense while in the trip?

[pinn3d]

It's a short/ intense trip.... make the setting mellow and comfortable.....the camcorder would probably be irrelevent once it comes on...... and yeah you will come back to being rational pretty quick... but don't 'try' to become normal/ rational before its over... that could be a bad experience... just ride it out....

make sure you burn it hot and hold it real long..... i remember reading that the high temperature and long holding in the lungs is crucial because of the chemical involved....

[StinkyPickle]

Nice one..;)^^^^...Imma gona get some, (now i'm back on de wagon).....My wife wants to try it as well.....So the trip isnt very long and your rational after?.....

Coz its just gonna be me and her....What kinda surroundings would you recommend, like dim lighting, some tunes in the background, or what?....I know i will be able to find a vendor, either head shop or online....I'm pretty good buddies wiv a head shop owner, so he should be able to help me out....

I'm definately gonna do this....Do you think a small cam corder running in the background will affect my trip or do you just forget all past tense while in the trip?

My suggestion would be a dimly lit room, ambient music (little or no words) and a comfortable place to sit. Only have one of you do it at a time, so you can pass the pipe off to them, and they can calm you down if you freak out. Salvia has a high vaporizing point, so a torch lighter is best. Big, deep hit. Hold it for as long as you can before blowing it out. Rinse, repeat. The four magic words that every sitter should know when someone is tweaking too hard: "You just smoked salvia" It's amazing how quickly you forget you smoked it. Also, the whole trip lasts maybe 15 minutes tops.

[jonny-5]

for me the intense confusing part lasts about 2 minutes followed by a mellow more weed-like (although not as pleasant as weed) high for about 30 minutes.

[dharma bum]

I ordered some from a website a couple years ago. I was hoping for a trip like lsd or shrooms used to give me. I was tired of my life and wanted to stop opiates for the time being at least and wanted the personal insight that psychedelics give to help in my attempt at laying off the opies.
It came in the mail and myself and three friends were so excited to go into another land far, far away.
I went outta state that day to get some roxies cheap so i had to wait till evening but all day long, through the roxie deal and back i was thinking about this Salvia D. I had tucked away. I get back finally, my friends are already at my place ready to go. I take the first deep inhale and.......nada, nothing. I thought maybe it was me so i let my friends try it. Well, none of those other three people felt a damned thing from the shit.
I write the guy that runs the site telling him my experience but he says no refund, his product was good, that i may be the one out of ten guys that don't feel it....the "hardheads" he dubbed it..I write back saying well three other friends never felt it ( at that point i was letting whoever walked thru the door see if they could feel it) and i never hear another word from him. He ignored me.....I wasn't even wanting my money back. I only bought a small amount of extract and an ounce of leaves. I would have been fine with another product, i had been wanting to have some kratom stored away...or even some of the "blue leaf"? Jacky mentioned awhile back.
I had researched it, had respect for it, learned the proper way to use and have a sitter---all that shit. So it wasn't the "salvia spirit" refusing me entrance.
Well, I read later opiates could nullify it. But some of the people i let try weren't into opiates...
But the more i read about and saw---especially those fucking idiots on youtube filming their trip---the happier i was it did not work for me. And erowid i know, has some idiots on there, but some of those trip reports were from smart people and well written were fucking scary. I do not want to live,as one guy did, my life as a garden hose on the side of a house, watching families come and go, new babies being born, growing up and dying---all the while your hanging outside wrapped up.
In the end, I don't know what i was thinking. I just wanted a life change. But when there is NO PERSONAL INSIGHT into the trip, you do not realize you are tripping....that is just not good. Like the belladonna or jipson weed---those type alkaloids----fuck that shit. I'm glad the "salvia goddess" rejected me.

[chopstix]

Avocados > Salvia

[Raz]

I tink imma gonna think about dis one....I def dont want to live de resta my life as a garden hose, "fuck dat shit" as de opi says....Lmfao......Fuck dat shit......

Or at least wait untill i'm off de opi;s....I remember tryin to trip once wiv a habit and the churning in my stomach felt too much like cluckin....

[wizardofoz80]

Everyone should def. try it. Just take a huge rip (the smoke is not harsh) and hold it in as long as you can. I felt like I was in a video game. That you are disconnected from you body and just confused as hell for 2 minutes. I've tryed shrooms before and its not nearly as intense and salvia. I did the 30x and once was enough for me. When I did it the dude who gave it to me was fuckin with me hard core so that didnt help as I didnt know wtf was going on. DO NOT TRY TO WALK AROUND!!! Just sit there and ride it out. Even though I say this you'll probably forget once you do it. Fun to try though. You are in another world for 2 minutes. I think its probably the closest thing to alzheimer's in a sane person.

[chopstix]

Everyone should def. try it.

I ain't gonna fuckin' try it - fuck dis-associatives. Avocados are WAY better.

[SeVeN]

Weird shit. Its like after I took a huge hit I was tottaly in my mind, but seemingly real like a dream. I was a yellow cartoon character, like off the Simpsons, and remember thinking my arms were stretching out. Then i kinda came back and all my friends were laughing (me too). Then I started chasing my one buddy around and pushing over laughing hystericaly.

[Raz]

Fuck dat shit....

[rockbottom]

here in Cali we can buy it at the local head shop 5x up to 60x extract--i still hAve an once of good regular salvia that i was going to make into a tincture --got recipie from the net---but scince ill never do it again there it sits---but the shit has strong healing properties--when i was coming down i could feel all the atoms in my body align perfectly with the flowing bands of the universe--but the healing wasnt worth the --HIGH--

on the other hand my brother in law likes it and does it every time his wife--leaves town for the day


reading dharma bum i had an intense belladonna trip agood one and at least i was there for the experience

[StinkyPickle]

Wow 60x extract? Fuck me, I got sent to a different planet from just leaves. I'd be scared I'd never come back with the 60x

[rockbottom]

Wow 60x extract? Fuck me, I got sent to a different planet from just leaves. I'd be scared I'd never come back with the 60x


i did 10x and went away--the leaves i have are strong and i think i will make the tincture and let my brother in law try it-----if he dares me i might try it again---thats how stupid i am;)

[Narkotikon]

I posted this once about two hours ago, and I clicked submit and it took me back to the page, like it's supposed to, but it didn't show my post, so it must not have gone through.

But, anyway, I've never done Salvia. It's a psychedelic, right? Those aren't my favorites. I liked shrooms better than acid, but it wasn't that great. I remember giggling a lot, and looking up at the ceiling at the Christmas lights around my dorm room, and one minute they were normal sized lights, and the next each light was the size of a dinner plate and kind of fractal-ish. Pot gives me almost an acid like effect too. Very psychedelic. Just not my cup of tea generally.

[StinkyPickle]

I wouldn't mind trying it again orally. It would give me time to brace myself and ease into it, plus it would last longer. I should pick some up and make some quids.

[dharma bum]

I ain't gonna fuckin' try it - fuck dis-associatives. Avocados are WAY better.

Yeah fuck disassociatives, ESPECIALLY this one. Avocados are just one of those secrets that not many know about ( thankfully) or they'd start restricting them. But yeah give me an Avacado any fuckin' day.

Salvia=Fuck dat shit

Edit: No, it is not a psychedelic. It's a hallucinogen but not psychedelic.

[ryan]

i *HATED* Salvia...and I tried it multiple times, in many different forms.
One of my buddies loved the stuff, and I tried so hard to enjoy it, but after every time I always regretted it.

In order to smoke it properly you should use a butane (torch) lighter. I think it has to get really hot in order for it to work. Using a bong is a good idea too because the smoke is really harsh.

Anyways -- the "trip" for me usually only lasted about 1-3 minutes each time I tried it.
I can remember feeling like I was trapped in some kind of cage, and I was suspended hanging from the cieling in the cage. The it felt like my body was going thru the caged metal, and when I went thru it, the metal burned me. I quickly snapped out of that and went to look in the mirror and I was dripping sweat and my pupils were huge. Then I just kind of came down from it. Overall kind of a stupid experience.
Every time I tried it, it made me sweat my ass off -- it like raised my body temperature at least 3-5 degrees every time I took a hit of it. Overall a very unpleasant experience.

[Narkotikon]

So is it a psychedelic or a dissociative? If it's a dissociative, is it like Ketamine? If it's like K, I might like it. If it's more like DXM, forget it.

[rockbottom]

some mexican indian tribe uses it for divination---tradational method is quids which is like chewing on a cigar---comes on slower and sounds alot better than the smoke rocket---nothing like acid or shrooms all i can say its a class by itself---if interested try it have a sitter one hit 10x extract---then post about it

not like K --K is good--
the salvia high lasts only about 10 minutes----which is eternity---just try it----i did and im still living--even got some insight into the universe--for me it was just very scary

[ryan]

I Wouldn't call it a dissociative. I like dissociatives and I hate salvia.
Before I found opies my DOC was DXM\K\PCP.

It's a psychedelic but it's just very strange because the trip is so short.

[Motown]

I LOVE psychedelics - but HATED Salvia. Made me feel like I was being pulled down
on my left side. CRAZY experience. I was not expecting anything - and it twisted me pretty
good.

I don't know - it just felt like my left hand side was being forced to the ground. :confused:

[Narkotikon]

I LOVE psychedelics - but HATED Salvia. Made me feel like I was being pulled down
on my left side. CRAZY experience. I was not expecting anything - and it twisted me pretty
good.

I don't know - it just felt like my left hand side was being forced to the ground. :confused:

That sort of sounds like a partial K-hole. Makes me curious now.

[Motown]

I think a K-hole feels better. This was not relaxing at all.

[LongKissGoodNite]

I LOVE psychedelics - but HATED Salvia. Made me feel like I was being pulled down
on my left side. CRAZY experience. I was not expecting anything - and it twisted me pretty
good.

I don't know - it just felt like my left hand side was being forced to the ground. :confused:

I hate to bring this back from the dead, but I cannot believe you're description - this is EXACTLY how I experienced it. I took a bigass bong rip, set the bong down and began talking to my wife. I had completely forgotten I smoked anything and then suddenly it hit me like a ton of bricks. No realizations, no trips, no hallucinations, just a very very uncomfortable feeling and the room was twisting in my field of vision and turing in toward the right hand side. I felt like the wall of my bedroom was right next to me, when in fact it was out of reach, about 6 feet away. And when I tried to speak, I couldnt. All I remember was my wife sitting there with me telling me it would be over soon and telling me, or reminding me, that I had just smoked salvia. It took a long time to process that I had smoked something - EVEN THOUGH I had only just smoked it about 20 to 30 seconds before that.

Weird Weird shit. I'd almost want to do it again if I could be convinced I did it wrong - and that it would be different and 'cool'. But then again maybe not :)

[Dan Steely]

I also was very uncomfortable with the experience. I felt "stuck" (like between dimensions or something?) I will never do it again and was relieved when it ended. I have never done a drug that made me that worried that I was doing something damaging to my brain. I don't think it hurt me but I certainly won't ever screw with that stuff again.

[Twizted Pain]

I hate to bring up such an old topic but I couldn't find anything more recent and I didn't feel the need to create a new topic since this one exists.

I tried salvia about 2 years ago, my first attempt was a weak 5x extract that I bought from a local head shop. I hit it, held it in as long as I could then laid back into my bed. It wasn't anything to write home about the bed felt like it was embracing me and wrapping me up and my vision started to act like snapshots. Its like I was seeing this snap shots that were being took of reality and one by one they would get pulled away and I would see the snapshot behind the one being pulled away... dunno thats the best I can explain it. Another attempt at the 5x extract left me in a far away place where I felt I was this all knowing being.

Third attempt was a 30x extract (I think it was 30) got it from a reputable online vendor. This time I had a friend babysit me through the experience.I was sitting in my recliner I took a huge hit, held it in.... then all of a sudden I get sucked into my recliner and warped to another place. In this place existed thousands of variation of myself I immediately felt a sense of being trapped in this place. I freaked out trying everything to leave this place before I was forever trapped with the other versions of me. Then (I have no idea how it got to this point) me and all the variations of myself were in this thing.. like a water wheel is the best i can describe it one variation of myself in each pocket of the wheel and it was turning. Each time my slot made it to the very top of the water wheel it was like I caught a glimpse of reality and immediately realized I had to escape this wheel and get back to reality before another version of myself made it out before me and took my spot in reality. I felt almost like what I was experiencing was reality and that what I once thought of as reality was actually an illusion and that each version of myself took turns experiencing this illusion of reality.

The second time my slot was at the top of the water wheel and getting a glimpse of "reality" I jumped out back up through my recliner where I was originally pulled in and came to from my trip. Even at this point I was still scared and asked my friend if any other version of me had escaped from the recliner. After much assurance from my buddy he helped me realize I was just tripping and no other versions of me had passed into this reality. It was a scary experience but I would still try it again at some point to see what it would be like again. Anyway thats my story of Salvia just figured I would share it with others.