Evil?

[alowishus]

I saw a thread just now asking if the poster was evil - & it got me thinking of some of the things I've done. The pain in it, the fun in it, the death in it - and then no longer any fun in it.
I'm not one of those people that need to play w/ dead things, their afraid of the living, lonely souls they are; no I need mine much alive or the terror and the torment losses all it's meaning. Limb bones break quite easy, easier then you'd think, it just takes a little tension and a hard point. Once the blood has been seen then the ends are limitless.

Did you know you can make candy outta blood.

It's not about the pain of course, it's about the pleasure - mine - things never ever mean to get so far along, but.....there are those times....

Evil - that thread got me to think; most people wouldn't know evil if it looked 'em right in the eyes and shoved a fish hook through their those eyes.

No one ever stops to think, they just keep asking why, why, why........we all die with out the answers.

[Badly Drawn Girl]

WTF???????????

[RobotJones]

is this a confessional?

[Chuck]

which post? the one about the guy going to church to pick up chicks?

CHUCK

[rockbottom]

I saw a thread just now asking if the poster was evil - & it got me thinking of some of the things I've done. The pain in it, the fun in it, the death in it - and then no longer any fun in it.
I'm not one of those people that need to play w/ dead things, their afraid of the living, lonely souls they are; no I need mine much alive or the terror and the torment losses all it's meaning. Limb bones break quite easy, easier then you'd think, it just takes a little tension and a hard point. Once the blood has been seen then the ends are limitless.

Did you know you can make candy outta blood.

It's not about the pain of course, it's about the pleasure - mine - things never ever mean to get so far along, but.....there are those times....

Evil - that thread got me to think; most people wouldn't know evil if it looked 'em right in the eyes and shoved a fish hook through their those eyes.

No one ever stops to think, they just keep asking why, why, why........we all die with out the answers.


but now i know how evil thinks---good thing i go armed -felon or not

[barbiegal]

Um, You ok Alow?:confused:

[frankie]

I am sorry but i just don't get it

[Papa Verine]

I have to say that I would know evil if it stared me in the face. I used to be good friends with a guy who I determined over time to be an evil sociopath. When somebody asks me "Do you think I'm bad?" or "Do you think I'm evil?" I compare them to this old buddy of mine and I haven't had to say "YES" once yet.

This guy was likable too. I enjoyed hanging out with him A lot. We had A lot of laughs and shit... partied A lot... But when he was pissed off at his ex girlfriend he stole her dog from the yard and cut the dog's head off and left it on her porch. When he'd do coke he'd get real horny and call hookers then rape and beat them. Shit like that... I'm leaving out the worst of it, believe me...

At first I didn't know he was so evil. I don't knowingly befriend rapists and sickos like this guy. I learned and I decided to just kinda back away slowly. you know, I didn't want to offend him or who knows what would've happened to my cats, or mom... So I just distanced myself and he eventually got incarcerated for a long time.

But... this guy really was evil. His mother was evil to him his entire life and he turned out much like her. She offered me 5K to kill her husband but my buddy said "No" because he wanted 10K at least and was pissed off because she tried to go around him and his bid and get me to do it for less. I kinda got into the middle of a family dispute there... She had previous husbands as well... I don't know what happened to them.

Of course this is all just a dream I had. None of it's true. But I *do* think I know evil.

[losangeleslifer]

Left field is now empty.

[Kristy85]

Come on, spill? Who you done in???

[kellyblue]

Come on, spill? Who you done in???

The last person that asked me that question...

And yes- I've seen Evil, and hope to never go there again.

Al- you ok buddy?

[dharma bum]

How good is this candy cause these damn subs make me crave it like never before?

Seriously man, that sounded like Ted Bundy's diary or blog.

I hope your rehabillitated......and whether that's a lame joke or not depends on whether or not this is fiction or....something else.

[Suboxstitute]

ALOW - Are you writing a HLITL-type novel? Hope it's fiction.:rolleyes:

Sue

[ZodiacKiller]

Geez, Alow---are you ok, my friend? Gimme a buzz if ya wanna talk or something. Now even I'm getting a little worried about you.


ZK

[Narkotikon]

To me, true evil is more akin to how a sociopath would be. Lack of emotion, empathy, and care of how their actions / deeds affect others. Once a person looses that moral / ethical filter, anything is fair game. I believe most sociopaths are born that way. I think their brains are lacking whatever it is that functions as an emotional center. I do think that some people can learn sociopathic behavior though, from trauma or whatever, but I don't think they're true sociopaths. I think they have sociopathic tendencies.

............................

Alow: Are you okay? I hope you're not upset. I really did think you were meaning something else in those messages. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I apologize. I thought you were thinking I was whining because of how you wrote that "myspace" thread. I thought you were saying I should shut the fuck up. I know now that's not what you meant, so I'm sorry.

[Poppylvr]

I saw a thread just now asking if the poster was evil - & it got me thinking of some of the things I've done. The pain in it, the fun in it, the death in it - and then no longer any fun in it.
I'm not one of those people that need to play w/ dead things, their afraid of the living, lonely souls they are; no I need mine much alive or the terror and the torment losses all it's meaning. Limb bones break quite easy, easier then you'd think, it just takes a little tension and a hard point. Once the blood has been seen then the ends are limitless.

Did you know you can make candy outta blood.

It's not about the pain of course, it's about the pleasure - mine - things never ever mean to get so far along, but.....there are those times....

Evil - that thread got me to think; most people wouldn't know evil if it looked 'em right in the eyes and shoved a fish hook through their those eyes.

No one ever stops to think, they just keep asking why, why, why........we all die with out the answers.

Um, alowishus, I can be kinda thick & slow on picking up stuff.
But this is a disturbing post.
I don't mind being the geeky girl that doesn't get it - and I don't get your post.
I hope all is well with you, my fellow opiophile. Am curious to hear from you again.
Granny Poppylvr:)

[Suboxstitute]

Um, alowishus, I can be kinda thick & slow on picking up stuff.
But this is a disturbing post.
I don't mind being the geeky girl that doesn't get it - and I don't get your post.
I hope all is well with you, my fellow opiophile. Am curious to hear from you again.
Granny Poppylvr:)

Yeah fill us in a little more; what about my minor attempt at humor (the HLITL novel) in an earlier post...not that I didn't enoy those little stories ('cuz truth be told I did) I did but I thought (hoped) those were imaginings and not 4 real.

you sounded serious, Where'd you go?

[ndoftaworld]

Unfortunately, I'd have to agree with Al :o

When the blood really starts gushing... the smell of it... GOD! Like power incarnate!! The true BEING of one - hitting the walls, ceiling, and furniture like a water balloon fight... only more colorful :)

Bathtubs are imminently more practical though, saving all the rich, coppery-flav... uh, smelling blood from escaping... After-all cleanup IS HALF THE FUN!!

The body parts always got to me tho... had a group with special talents on call to do THAT dirty work... I don't like details, don't gettem. Plus, a bigger discount each time :D

I do like to keep a 'collection' though... it's not a real conversation starter u might say... so I'll leave the details out, hehe.

Sleep tight fellow ophiles, and think warm thoughts.

Nd

[Narkotikon]

This is turning into a Hannah-esque cutter thread. Let's all slash our arms and wrists and post pics. Let's make a contest out of it. I bet I can do it better!

[ndoftaworld]

This is turning into a Hannah-esque cutter thread. Let's all slash our arms and wrists and post pics. Let's make a contest out of it. I bet I can do it better!

But, the arms are so... BORING.

Can't we vote (or choose ourselves??!??) what to mutilate for the world, it SHOULD be our right. :(

Otherwise... I'm GAME!! :D

Nd

[Narkotikon]

Sure. I'm partial to arms though. I think it's more dramatic. It puts it right out there for all to see. I'd say the next best would be your neck, but that's tricky. Don't want to go too deeply, lest you hit the jugular, or do you? :p

And no, I'm not a cutter. I'm just being sarcastic. I did used to scratch when I was younger, but that stopped when I got on opiates. I know why cutters do it though: when your body is damaged, it releases endorphins and enkephalins. What are opiates? Exogenous endorphins. When people cut themselves, they get a temporary flood of endorphins, and (depending on how severely they've cut themselves) they get a flood of pleasure. It calms them down. One treatment is to give Naltrexone (Revia) to cutters, because it blocks those endorphins, thereby supposedly stopping the reinforcing behavior. Personally, I think that's cruel. They're obviously cutting themselves for the pleasure, because they can't feel any otherwise. I think giving an antagonist would just make them feel even number. A second, more controversial, option is to prescribe opiates. The doctor at the methadone clinic I was at said he knew of a doctor in NYC who treated cutters by prescribing Vicodin. He told them to take a pill each time they had the urge to cut. Not sure how "legal" that is, but I can see it working, although I'm not sure if I'd want an addiction on top of the cutting. I will say that I don't like it when people brag about it though, like Hannah did. I think it's a juvenile cry for help.

[ndoftaworld]

All extra-torturous acts aside... I used to b a cutter. There is NOTHING like the rush, which I think is why many ppl try and (ahem.) like needles.

Just an opinion tho...

Nd

[Narkotikon]

All extra-torturous acts aside... I used to b a cutter. There is NOTHING like the rush, which I think is why many ppl try and (ahem.) like needles.

Just an opinion tho...

Nd

Eh, it was a definite rush, very similar to opiates, but it wasn't that great IMO. I didn't do it very often though. And I never really bragged about it. It was something I was ashamed of. I don't get people like Hannah who brag about it. If I had to place it on a scale of 1-10, I'd say it was about a 5. Opiates would be a 10.

I can see the needle fetish people get being partly caused by that, if you're / were a cutter that is. I've IV'd before, but never got a needle fetish or anything. To be honest, I thought it was kind of a hastle. Having to worry about getting clean needles, and I have really small veins anyway, like a girl, so it was just a bitch.

[RobotJones]

i had a needle fixation for quite a while. i was shooting my cherry flavored liquid methadone every day for a LONG time. which is pointless cuz you dont get a rush, just the tease of one, and the oral bio-availability of methadone is like 98% or something so it's not like dope, where you get more of a rush when you IV it. i eventually tapered off the 'done, but i was still shooting water and dormin every day just to get the needle fix in. i don't feel the need to do it anymore, unless of course there's a big shot of H in the syringe. (or coke once a year).

[robojunkie]

People don't recognize "evil" because evil is simply the lack of good not some force in and of itself. Evil is as evil does, think about all the evil deeds in human history, nearly all done in the name of good or god or country or race or some other nefarious hifalutin' notion.

[ndoftaworld]

*Grumble* I STILL think my lil girl is EVIL - not described as, but in actual form of - with her bday. C'mon, I know MOST dad's don't hope for their daughter to be born on the calendar's reference to the evil one hehe, but then again... most dad's aren't born on HALLOWEEN, are they? :D

06/06/06 - The world met Raven Lea. Too bad for the world, huh? :cool:

Nd

[I-Nod]

Now that's putting the 'edge' back in Ophile and honing it with a block of shear shock-value!! :D :eek:

Sooo... following in the footsteps of harm-reduction, I have to ask that you wear gloves Alow. It may prevent the spread of HepC or HIV when coming in contact with blood, or at the very least, help shield your hands from getting cut up in the event a bone that's breaking becomes a compound fracture.

[pizzaboy]

Ummmm...did I miss something? Everyone ok??

[losangeleslifer]

Thar be monsters here!!:eek:

[InfectedMushroom]

I'm a little worried about you man, I hope everything's ok...

[RxQueen]

i think y'all can stop fearing for alow's sanity... unless of course, he really has stepped over the edge. he's a good guy, just pointing out what real evil can do. definitely far worse than picking up chicks at a church.

that said.... hey alow, didjya ever hear that a pig's digestive system can destroy human DNA? it's a factoid that could come in useful for uh, shall we say disposal purposes? know anyone with a hog farm? cuz i do.....

mwahahahahahah!! :cool:

[Nostromos]

i just don't wanna get going tonight... i used to cut and yeah, there is a sort of euphoria that goes with it. All of a sudden the self-hatred dries up as you look at a big gash in your arm. And you just think, "what have I done to myself?" But i didn't go too far, it felt too stupid.

I'm not an evil person, but many come close to doing very evil things out of envy, fear, and anger. Empathy is strangled when you think the world is out to get you, and you transform into the monster you believe everyone else to be.

[Raz]

I been in some bad places wiv some evil muvva fuckers.....Believe me....

Every fuckin mornin in parkhurst jail i had to walk past this fucker Johnny G, to slop out..(no toilets in cells) empty ya pot....Now dis fucker had already murdered two peeps in jail, so he was never gettin out....
You just made sure you said "good morning John" coz dis fucker thought strange man, real strange...

I could tell ya all some real shit about evil behaviour, but i dont really wanna go there....Its not a pissin contest....I posted once about the guy gettin a gallon of boiling fuckin hot oil an other shit, (sugar, so it sticks and liquid soap) chucked over him......Man dat was fuckin evil an de real fuckin shit fing was , the dude didnt deserve it.....The cunt who threw it, well der were 2 of em, dey fuckin shoulda got it...

One paranoid pair dey fuckin were; an trust me "paranoia" is your worse fuckin evil in a claustraphopic jail enviroment.....Its better to get along, peeps know "dont fuck" and have a good fuckin crew around ya.....

But man, i seen evil and madness....Well they were mad evil hombres who were just fuckin plain nuts.
But still physically capable...Not a good mix.....

[jonny-5]

i seen evil...

a 38 year old man throwing his 6 year old nieces cat on the neighbors roof by its tail in front of said niece...that shit was evil, and disturbingly one of the lesser of the many evil things ive had to watch this man do.

[ndoftaworld]

that said.... hey alow, didjya ever hear that a pig's digestive system can destroy human DNA? it's a factoid that could come in useful for uh, shall we say disposal purposes? know anyone with a hog farm? cuz i do.....

mwahahahahahah!! :cool:

:D

Prolly mentioned this b4, but a place I temp'd @ used to dispose of medical waste. Large red totes of used pins, IV tubing/bags, EVEN ship-ins from the state U of dead experiment animals. They had been there for months by the time we got to cleaning them up, in a HOT plant, oh god!

But the point, uh, is with the 2000 degree auto-clave AND traces of literally millions of types of DNA covering the place, even the manager pointed out HE'D bring out his 'dirty-laundry' should he ever need to. Kinda wish I still worked there. :cool:

Morning to all.

Nd

[alowishus]

that said.... hey alow, didjya ever hear that a pig's digestive system can destroy human DNA? it's a factoid that could come in useful for uh, shall we say disposal purposes? know anyone with a hog farm? cuz i do.....
mwahahahahahah!! :cool:
I live a farm w/ all 'em critters, starve 'em a while and oh boy, simply no manners.
Is one life different from another?
(FUCK OFF ALL YOU PRO LIFE NAZI CUNTS)
Do we get retribution in the end, in the beginning, middle? Fairness is certainly not part of our sphere of life, nor has it ever been - hence bad is right, evil is good; bang me another bible and tell me how wrong I am when a life leaving fades away with such warmth - & evil is an act, it is not a person or a thing. So do I, as a member of this humanity - pay - in the end for the "acts", MY acts? Our act?
(FUCK OFF YOU BIBLE SPEWING SHEEP)

We've all done things, regrets; I've always said it's the worst thing to have - they never never leave.

ndoftaworld- It's a cold November, the nights air is heavy, thick, then the feeling of 90 degree blood rush over your hands - the warmth is so unexpected you're startled. That will be one memory I will never ever forget, like getting your 1st fix. The sound, the smell, the look, the feeling - all of it set in stone in some tiny bio-mech hunk of grey matter.

But that neither here nor there just wanted to relate to ndoftaworld and his cutting, I can dig it. ;)

My penitence for past transgressions and those of this world are. Who's life is worth sparing more then anyone else's. Quick pop quiz, and it can't be yourself (you selfish prick).

I can wait.

[Chuck]

I still want to know alowishus was this about that post about that guy asking if it was evil to go to a church function to pick up chicks?

CHUCK

[norseman]

Who's life is worth sparing more then anyone else's. Quick pop quiz, and it can't be yourself (you selfish prick).

I can wait.


I'd say spare the farmers/pharmers of the world, both types as one feeds our stomachs and the other feeds our souls!!! Plus I am the former, and Alow scares me now!!

[ndoftaworld]

To me... no one should be spared. Life is great sometimes, yes. And some offer great services to others, but all have a price. No doctor is safe... kickbacks from med. companies, 'bonuses' for certain ill patients... lawyers and priests, don't get me started. :mad:

There are domestic abusers, child-abusers, thiefs, murderers... EVERYONE deserves to feel the pain of their obsessions, of their intentions.

Even a bank teller has the 'incling' to lighten his drawer, there's ALWAYS a way... he knows it.

Children... a tough decision, future sinners, corrupted, politicians, abusers... the list goes on. But, they are innocent now... aren't they?

Nd

[alowishus]

I figured it out what evil was and then I just sat and thought and worked it out (smoking), then I thought I should write it down or I might for get the answer to evil - sure enough-I didn't and forgot the whole behind the reason of evil.

I do shit like that all the time, I 'm such a lazy fuck.

[chemboy7]

All extra-torturous acts aside... I used to b a cutter. There is NOTHING like the rush, which I think is why many ppl try and (ahem.) like needles.

Just an opinion tho...

Nd

Sorry, but I see no relationship between cutting and getting off.


People don't recognize "evil" because evil is simply the lack of good not some force in and of itself. Evil is as evil does, think about all the evil deeds in human history, nearly all done in the name of good or god or country or race or some other nefarious hifalutin' notion.

That's right, no one thinks they are evil, everyone has a way of justifying their own actions in their head. Shit even Hitler thought he was doing something righteous.


i had a needle fixation for quite a while. i was shooting my cherry flavored liquid methadone every day for a LONG time. which is pointless cuz you dont get a rush, just the tease of one, and the oral bio-availability of methadone is like 98% or something so it's not like dope, where you get more of a rush when you IV it. i eventually tapered off the 'done, but i was still shooting water and dormin every day just to get the needle fix in. i don't feel the need to do it anymore, unless of course there's a big shot of H in the syringe. (or coke once a year).

Yeah man I know all about that needle fever, I've shot everything from black tar to to Bupe to Unisom. Even when there is not really any high involved it does just feel good to go looking for a vein, get a flash, and let 'er rip. The ritual of it sometimes excites me sexually... swear to God.


i seen evil...

a 38 year old man throwing his 6 year old nieces cat on the neighbors roof by its tail in front of said niece...that shit was evil, and disturbingly one of the lesser of the many evil things ive had to watch this man do.

That is fucking cruel man. Anyone that can hurt an innocent animal deserves to be hung by their balls... just my opinion.

[ndoftaworld]

I figured it out what evil was and then I just sat and thought and worked it out (smoking), then I thought I should write it down or I might for get the answer to evil - sure enough-I didn't and forgot the whole behind the reason of evil.

I do shit like that all the time, I 'm such a lazy fuck.

No worries Al, we've all had our evil side reveal itself occasionally ;)

Most of us just dream... what would happen if I snapped? Would the ppl close to me be the first... or spared and as many dipshits I can find around here be sent to the bloody depths of my bath--, uh, hell :P

... Sry, reading Palahniuk's books lately. Fight Club (which in book is better of course), is only the beginning. I feel so... interested in something. Mwuhahahaha!

L8 all,

Nd

[alowishus]

Sorry, but I see no relationship between cutting and getting off.

No there is a sorta rush - it's pain.
The burner's too they get a good long rush, a glowing hot slab of steel will go and go - but it's a pain thing.

It's a defense mechanism.


But it can work both ways.:sandm:

[alowishus]

How many of you have at times had any of these issues:
Persistent lying or stealing

Superficial charm


Apparent lack of remorse or empathy; inability to understand having hurt others


Inability to keep jobs or stay in school


Impulsivity and/or recklessness

Lack of realistic, long-term goals -- an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals


Inability to make or keep friends, or maintain relationships such as marriage


Poor behavioural controls -- expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper


Narcissism, elevated self-appraisal or a sense of extreme entitlement


A persistent agitated or depressed feeling


A history of childhood conduct disorders


Recurring difficulties with the law

Tendency to violate the rights and boundaries of others


Substance abuse


Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights


Inability to tolerate boredom


Disregard for the safety of self or others


Difficulties with authority figures

We'll say there are 18; count how many of the 18 you can raise your hand too.
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[alowishus]

I know we got some real fucking retards on here but can't no one count to at least 18?


Would physical pain be a learned response?
Repetitive sensory stimuli, do we manifest in our minds, “I know this should hurt”, hence it does.
Although not everyone learns at a young age that a bullet ripping through your body will hurt, nevertheless it still does I assume. This also reaches out to other paradigms, beyond the scope of what I sought to bring to mind.

However there is something to be said of ALL pain being “in the mind”.
Human suffering requires the felt loss of meaning and purpose in life. Pain and privation can be tolerated if it is for a purpose.
For the dying person, however, suffering may seem inescapable. All that has given meaning and purpose to an individual's life would appear to be dissolving right in front of them....

[ndoftaworld]

Again Al, I'd have to agree with you.

Physical pain, for the most part, IS a learned (through experiences) response to stimuli.

So, guided-meditation, 'healing balls of light', etc. all could be useful... to a point.

But what about the pain of an unexpected violent death? Would our brains let us 'turn off' reality in those last few torturous moments... or would they flash to everything that is now gone? Your first school, friends, love, hate, and on and on... Keeping us in the 'here and now' - feeling the agony, yes, but also FINALLY giving us insight to this mostly pointless existence?

Would u 'escape' for it all to end quickly? Or try to hold-on to every last breath, certain of no-chance for survival, but just unable to give-in to our attacker - be it ourselves, someone else, nature, DEATH itself - if we can't plan the way we die... can't we @ least choose our own levels of peace about it?

Or not? Hmm...

Nd

[Badly Drawn Girl]

How many of you have at times had any of these issues:

Lack of realistic, long-term goals -- an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals



A persistent agitated or depressed feeling



Substance abuse


-

I can count to 18 but only need to count to 3. :p

[chopstix]

Ya'll forget yur fuckin' meds or what?? Seriously.

What's the point here?

I see some vague references here and there, and apparent allusions to, and implication of, disturbing sociopathic fetishes and violence, coupled with grandiosity and reverence; but I see no real point to this thread, aside from some bullshit semantic ping-pong and vague "confessions" or merely/likely/hopefully just posing..

ND, if you're for real, then get some help. Same for Alow. If you truly kill for sport and not food then fuck you.

Haldol, p=339656 please STAT - Haldol 339656. Thanks.

I had a very short date once. In a bar, drinking drink #1 and this chick starts talking about how she watches the surgery channel non-stop and is fascinated by autopsies and blood (she really emphasized a lust for blood and watching cutting) and a whole bunch of disturbing shit related to anatomy and trauma.

Me: Ya done with that drink?
Her: Almost, what do you wanna do??
Me: Leave. Cya.

10 Minutes.. fucking freak..

[ndoftaworld]

ND, if you're for real, then get some help. Same for Alow. If you truly kill for sport and not food then fuck you.

Why not both? Red meat IS just that after all. Strip away the skin and hair, and all books look the same ;)

And besides... even if I couldn't eat all my nightly 'gatherings' I am a firm believer in sharing. Give a homeless man a victim, he pukes and runs away. Teach a homeless man to create victims and a little brighter is my day. :D

So delightfully distasteful, no?

Nd

[chopstix]

I've known a lot of people like you. Not impressed. And don't wink at me cos you ain't gettin' none..

[ndoftaworld]

I've known a lot of people like you. Not impressed. And don't wink at me cos you ain't gettin' none..

Ain't here to impress anybody, actually if they are... THEY need a fucking life more than I do...

And don't worry, u ain't my type CS.

Nd

[chopstix]

Ain't here to impress anybody


I don't believe you. :)

[ndoftaworld]

I don't believe you. :)

U, ahem, actually sound impressed right there chops... something up? R u looking for a mentor? A really sick, crazy mofo to help ease you into the world of sadistic (yet fun, in a, rudimentary, cave-man like way) carnage?

Well, sry. My classes are booked full through August... but I'll be sure to add ur name to the waiting list. :p

No advanced deposit or down payment. Though full-payment - a pound of flesh - is required on the first day of the 'seminar'

Nd

[SeVeN]

Yeh I have to say I never liked the killing for sport. I know what I eat when I eat it, but I hate the Idea of killing for fun.

I always here arguments like "well the deer poulation is so big they will starve anyways". So which deer does the redneck shoot? The one that isnt to big and does no good to its species, or the one that is dominant and needs to pass its seed on for the species sake?

I got spitting mad the other day when I was flipping through channels and I stopped at a hippo. Little did I know it was a hunting show and some ass hole was gonna shoot it. And what the first thing out of his mouth. "wow, I've never seen a hippo before" Go figure.

[chopstix]

Ain't here to impress anybody


u looking for a mentor? A really sick, crazy mofo to help ease you into the world of sadistic (yet fun, in a, rudimentary, cave-man like way) carnage?

Well, sry. My classes are booked full through August...


I rest my case.

You don't have to apologize, I'm surviving just fine at the fish counter, and more interested in pleasure than pain, but thx.. :rolleyes:

[chopstix]

Yeh I have to say I never liked the killing for sport. I know what I eat when I eat it, but I hate the Idea of killing for fun.

I always here arguments like "well the deer poulation is so big they will starve anyways". So which deer does the redneck shoot? The one that isnt to big and does no good to its species, or the one that is dominant and needs to pass its seed on for the species sake?

I got spitting mad the other day when I was flipping through channels and I stopped at a hippo. Little did I know it was a hunting show and some ass hole was gonna shoot it. And what the first thing out of his mouth. "wow, I've never seen a hippo before" Go figure.

Haha, I love derailing dumb threads :)

Didja know Sarah Palin loves to hunt wolves from a fucking airplane? Then guess what they do? They go shoot the fucking puppies if they shot a momma. Sarah Palin shoots puppies for sport. Nice.

I will never understand people like that. If I had to hunt or raise animals for food, I would and I could. But I certainly wouldn't revel in the physicality of it and revel over the details.

I think people who even joke about it are sick.

[duck]

Haha, I love derailing dumb threads :)

Didja know Sarah Palin loves to hunt wolves from a fucking airplane? Then guess what they do? They go shoot the fucking puppies if they shot a momma. Sarah Palin shoots puppies for sport. Nice.

I will never understand people like that. If I had to hunt or raise animals for food, I would and I could. But I certainly wouldn't revel in the physicality of it and revel over the details.

I think people who even joke about it are sick.

I'd gladly shoot a deer or many other mammals. Call me mean or disgusting, I love deer jerky.

[chopstix]

I'd gladly shoot a deer or many other mammals. Call me mean or disgusting, I love deer jerky.

No, I'd call you hungry, I like Venison too..

I'm talking about killing simply for sport, and (especially) reveling in the details.

[ndoftaworld]

Chicken-fried deer is awesome! My mom sneaked it to me w/o telling me what it was @ first. "Just chicken-fried steak..."

Damn! It was good tho! Best tasting entree that wasn't bought in a store! Worst: Rabbits and squirrels (fuck, they are tough to chew!)

Don't hunt too often, and certainly am against animal cruelty. But, ya, if me or mine had nothing to eat, then the local wildlife is definitely fair game (bad pun, i know :P )

Animals have to go thru SO MUCH torture @ the hands of humans... and if ya place the label of 'Science' on the cruelty - shit, ya get paid, flunkys to do the dirty-work, and maybe even a Humanity Award?!?!

Retarded fucking 'civilized world'...

Nd

[alowishus]

I got spitting mad the other day when I was flipping through channels and I stopped at a hippo. Little did I know it was a hunting show and some ass hole was gonna shoot it. And what the first thing out of his mouth. "wow, I've never seen a hippo before" Go figure.

LOL


What about those cute cows, what the hell you think your hamburg is; I guess it's different when you kill all the different types and kinds of what some people call pets and other call livestock.

My man Ted
"Ya got ta kill it
before ya grill it!"


I used to think that there should be a law where you could legally kill one person during your life time, make the world a much nicer place, huh?

[Raz]

"How do ya feel about killin people for a livin"?

Wadda mean"

"Well,like does it prick ya conscience"?

"Your a cab driver right"

"Yeah"

"How do ya feel about ya fares"

"Nuffin, its just a job"................"And your question is"?.....

[Saint]

A persistent agitated or depressed feeling
Substance abuse
Difficulties with authority figures

That's about it

[Narkotikon]

How many of you have at times had any of these issues:

Persistent lying or stealing



Superficial charm



Apparent lack of remorse or empathy; inability to understand having hurt others



Inability to keep jobs or stay in school



Impulsivity and/or recklessness



Lack of realistic, long-term goals -- an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals



Inability to make or keep friends, or maintain relationships such as marriage



Poor behavioural controls -- expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper



Narcissism, elevated self-appraisal or a sense of extreme entitlement



A persistent agitated or depressed feeling



A history of childhood conduct disorders



Recurring difficulties with the law



Tendency to violate the rights and boundaries of others



Substance abuse



Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights



Inability to tolerate boredom



Disregard for the safety of self or others



Difficulties with authority figures

We'll say there are 18; count how many of the 18 you can raise your hand too.
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I could be wrong, but isn't this list the DSM-IV criteria for antisocial personality disorder (i.e., sociopathy)?

To be honest, I think most--if not all--people would / do fit some of these at some points in their lives. I think for most people it's transient though. Whereas if you're talking about a true antisocial personality / sociopath, they'd have these all of the time.

I fit some of them, but lots of personality disorders have some of the same symptoms. For instance, I fit the substance abuse, the impulsivity (at times), and inability to tolerate boredome, and difficulty in completing long term goals, but I feel as though I fit more under the heading of Borderline Personality. Unless the DSM has updated, I believe there are nine criteria for that, and I fit most of them. I don't really dissociate all that much, but I have before under A LOT of stress. Not like a psychotic break or anything. It's more like a mini / less severe dissociation, where you sort of go into this trance-like, dream world. Kind of like daydreaming, and the real world around you sort of fades away. But, that's only been a few times and under A LOT of stress.

But I definitely agree with the self-destructive behavior thing, the instability in identity (not knowing who you are, or trying to put on different personae to please others, where you're one person with one person, then another with another person), the black and white thinking (called splitting, although I realize I do that, and can for the most part control it. Although I will say my mom does that A LOT. Very black and white, right or wrong thinking. Nothing is middle ground. Personally, I think she's got some kind of personality disorder, perhaps Histrionic), and I used to do the self-mutilation thing when I was younger (cutting, scratching), but for the most part that went away when I started doing opiates full-time. Also have a fear of abandonment, and have in the past played the "I'm going to kill myself" card to get people to stay with me (meaning my family from taking away affection).

But, as I got older, it just got old. I got tired of saying shit like "I'm going to kill myself" and having my sisters call 911 and being held for at least a night or longer on psych wards for observation, when I was only wanting their attention. There are LOTS of better ways to get attention. I still have some trouble with the splitting / black-and-white thinking though. And I still can be impulsive. But, it's gotten better as I've gotten older. I've read that people with Borderline Personality Disorder and other personality disorders often "fizzle" out when they're in their thirties / forties, and they just sort of stop. I think that's already sort of happening to me, although I do think being on opiates has something to do with it too. Personally, I suspect that people with Borderline personalities might have low endorphin levels, or an inability to sense pleasure, because they often feel numb, and do the mutilation thing to "feel" anything. And, when you cut yourself, your body releases endorphins, which is what opiates are--exogenous endorphins. So, I think my drug use has something to do with me being less severe as I once was. Plus, I've just learned to deal with things better than I used to. When I was 20-22, I was a freaking mess. I feel like I've changed / grown in some respects.

I will say thought that I hate the stigma associated with it. First of all, a lot of doctors feel like it's a purely "women's disease" almost like the modern equivalent to hysteria. And more often than not, men simply will not get diagnosed properly. Rather than getting the Borderline diagnosis, they'll get the Antisocial Personality diagnosis, because that's traditionally a "man's disorder. I don't agree with that at all. I think the reason both disorders are so gender biased is because of societal stereotypes. I used to get so pissed off at doctors for not diagnosing me right. Now I just blow it off as them being dumbasses, which, unfortunately, I think some psychiatrists / psychologists / therapists are.

And the other thing that pisses me off about the Borderline thing is that people always assume you're psycho, or going to go off. Yes, you can have very intense mood swings, but it doesn't mean you're psycho. You can learn to control that, and I really do think it gets better with age. The way it was explained to me is that people with Borderline Personality Disorder peak higher than normal people in response to stress. They're basically more sensitive than "normal" people, and they take longer to get down back to a baseline level. But, their baseline level is naturally higher than a normal person's level. So, you can think of it as a line graph, spiking in response to stress, which may or may not be "regular" stressors that would affect anyone, or odd little things that only affect the particular person and other people would find "odd." Which is why I partly think people think of Borderline's as psycho.

Actually, the name means on the borderline between neurosis and psychosis. A more appropriate term / name for the disorder would be Unstable Personality Disorder. I think that is less demeaning. When people hear borderline, I think it evokes a sense of craziness. I don't feel crazy. I'm just more emotional than "normal" people, and I do have a tendency to go off on people, usually when I think they're being disrespectful, either if that's real or imagined on my part. Which is why you'll sometimes see me asking people to clarify comments on posts. Because I'd rather ask and be sure of their true intentions than just assume and go off half cocked on them. It's just a way to prevent misunderstandings / arguments on my part, which I think is the responsible thing to do. But, yes, I can have my bitch moments where you really wouldn't want to be around me. That's usually when people really push my buttons though. There's only so much I can take before I snap and uber-bitch comes out.

[alowishus]

"How do ya feel about killin people for a livin"?
Wadda mean"
"Well,like does it prick ya conscience"?
"Your a cab driver right"
"Yeah"
"How do ya feel about ya fares"
"Nuffin, its just a job"................"And your question is"?.....


No women.
No children.
That are the rules.




I could be wrong, but isn't this list the DSM-IV criteria for antisocial personality disorder (i.e., sociopathy)?

Kinda a sorta; they don't "call" it that anymore. I just didn't feel like tying all that out so I edited it where need be.
SOME of us can't type a fucking book in 30 seconds....:rolleyes::p

But it's more like a guide, things to work on.
I was 12 when I heard someone talking about me in an office to another and use the word antisocial. :D
I had worn sneakers to school - this is the same place where you can't walk in the stairway w/ your hands in your pockets, I SWEAR TO WHAT EVER GOD YOU DIG, so you could caught/stop the burning timbers when they fall on you.

I'm as serious as an O/D.

[Saint]

Didja know Sarah Palin loves to hunt wolves from a fucking airplane? Then guess what they do? They go shoot the fucking puppies if they shot a momma. Sarah Palin shoots puppies for sport. Nice.

I will never understand people like that. If I had to hunt or raise animals for food, I would and I could. But I certainly wouldn't revel in the physicality of it and revel over the details.

I think people who even joke about it are sick.

I missed this but I couldn't agree more. Sick fucks, all of them. I don't give a fuck whether they like Opiates, I hate people killing animals for fun. Fuck them.

[blutuesday]

I raise my hand to:


Impulsivity and/or recklessness



A history of childhood conduct disorders



Substance abuse



Inability to tolerate boredom

[Raisin]

I raise my hand to people who raise their hand to me. Usually they shake it back and forth while looking at me with a stupid smile on their face. I do it back to them because it makes them stop.

[poonwhalla]

At one point or another I think I have been all of those but narcissism
I think I better go seek some help or something