Ever think people try other ROAs w/sub because...?

[limitless_euphoria]

Today, I was up for something a little different. So, instead of taking my bupe sublingually I decided to crush some, put it in about 1/2 cc of water in a bottlecap and insufflate it with a straw. Well, I crushed it, poured the mixture into the bottlecap with the water already in it, stirred it around, then I tried to get it up my nose. Accidentally I exhailed through my nostril and blew the mixture all over the surface of my washing machine. Oops!!

Luckily, I was able to salvage somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3 of it, but this got me to thinking. Ever think people try other ROAs with sub because somehow it just doesn't give them the same satisfaction doing it the prescribed way?

I've taken bupe as Rxed, plugged it, snorted it, snorted it dissolved in water, IMed and IVed it. Honestly, I've noticed that there's nothing really all that special about *any* ROA in particular. I almost think part of the reason people fix it, sniff it, plug it etc. is because "breaking the rules" has its own rush in a way. It's kind of similar to needle fever. It seems as though the ritual of preparing a substance for consumption is almost as gratifying as the actual feelings induced after consumption.

I will add that after not taking bupe for a long time, sniffing it definitely can give you a little glow but it seems with day to day maintenence even shooting it IM or IV is just a waste.

Do you guys think I'm on to something about the high one might derive just from going through the motions? I'm curious to read feedback.

[runormal]

you are 100% right about the "breaking the rules" part. yesterday in a spell of boredom, i took an 8mg pill and crushed it over and over again with the goal of making in as fine as humanly possible. I spent 15 minutes just going over and over it again, with a credit card, under a piece of paper, with a razorblade, it was like going through the kama sutra of pill crushing. then i divided it into 16 carefully measured lines, taking great care to make them as equal as possible. I got an unused straw and cut it down to length.

Of course nothing happened from snorting it. For whatever reason, under the tongue works best for me, its the only way i can sometimes feel it 'kick in' slightly. still, yesterday i hoped that somehow going through that long process would yield some sort of meaningful result - that if it was fine enough of a powder that it would get me blasted - which turned into even more of a let down.

subs are the most frustrating thing to me for that reason, that there is no way to outsmart the asshole who put wax balls in tevas for example. you are stuck with the way they want you to use them. ugh!

[roxi*stardust]

I have never got "high" from bupe, no matter the ROA. I taken it nasally and sublingually. I only benefit of snorting it is it makes smaller doses (1mg or less) more effective and easy to take.

[ZodiacKiller]

I have never got "high" from bupe, no matter the ROA. I taken it nasally and sublingually. I only benefit of snorting it is it makes smaller doses (1mg or less) more effective and easy to take.

Exactly the same for me, EXCEPT--this is maybe 2 years ago now--- I had gotten totally clean for about 5 weeks, and one day the craving hit me hard, so I took an 8mg Suboxone from my wife, and got insanely high on it. Couldn't believe it, but I wasn't complaining. So I know it will work, but only if you have no opiates in your system and low or zero tolerance. And again, everyone is different...


ZK

[Narkotikon]

I think if I can do more milligram wise, sublingually works better. If I have to conserve, I usually crush it up into a fine power and snort bumps of it. It works better, and I can use less and get the same effect. I do think it hits me faster when I snort it, and I do get a more energetic feeling from it that way. The only complaint is that my nose ALWAYS gets fucking stopped up after a few days. I guess my nasal passages aren't large, and it just feels stuffed up. I'll usually go to the bathroom and put my finger under the faucet and snort drops of water afterwards. That seems to help. Kind of like people do with coke.

[The_Highwayman]

I get "high" so to speak from ny suboxone under the tongue, just a sense of well-being, nothing like a full on opiate high, but enough to know it got in there....

[limitless_euphoria]

You know, despite citing the answer in my own thread here, it actually took a lot of talking to myself to convince myself that wanting to use other ROAs was just something in my head and I needed to get over it. So now, alas, I dose sublingually although I hate it! Suboxone is DISGUSTING and Subutex isn't the greatest but I can tolerate it.

The idea of shooting/IMing it is just too risky for my liking although I've done both before. Plugging is nice and all but it's just not worth my time. I'm only sticking an oral syringe up my ass if I'm getting a nice headchange out of the deal. Intranasal use of subs on a regular basis tears my nose apart and I get these nasty-ass boogers. And lastly since you can't smoke 'em, I'm fresh out of ideas for what else I could do. It has been so long since I've done it under-the-tounge I forgot that it's actually really not all that bad (minus the taste).

What about you guys? Have you just finally settled on the fact that breaking the rules holds little if any benefit so you might as well just take 'em as directed?