Oxycodone tragedy

[satori]

Four years ago after one of the car accidents i had been in, i was perscriped percocet. A month later i went back to my doctor to get more. He gave me the 7.5's (30) and i was happy! I used to like taking them just befor bed and laying there then falling asleep. Well one night i took it, then had a hard time falling asleep. I tried to calm myself down by counting slowly and relaxing my muscles then i drifted off. But i didnt fall asleep, i lost control of all my muscles and my body went into some type of ... cold shock feeling. I KNEW - KNEW i was dying, i could feel myself slipping away little bit by little bit, my heart was pounding so hard i could feel it in my fingers and feet. I knew i was dying but kept trying to fight to stay alive, i couldnt move then finnaly i could get up and i fell out of bed, i could barely get to my door then i ran upstairs. I was 16 at the time and didnt know ANYTHING about opiates. I figured it was an overdose (i took 1 and a half pills, sense it said to take 1 i guessed the 1/2 could do it :( ). I had always taken 10mg and figured it would be the same but in my moment of freaking out it didnt matter because i knew it had to be that, what else could it even be? My mom brought down a heart monitor (what are they called?) and took my BP (electronic). The readings were 240 over 120, and 113. My arms were going numb and i could barely stay concious. After that i stopped taking pain meds for a year and i only took them at night (an hour befor bed) after a surgery. It was the scariest experience in my life (except one i wont get into). I now know it was most likely sleep paralasis (sp) brought on by opiates + me trying to relax but wow was it scary.... I have never experienced anything like it again. I have come to terms with death (for the most part) so now i would just fall asleep. I will always remember how much it felt like, what i asumed death would be like. Like i could feel what made me... me falling away further down, deeper, it was just like droppign something down a hole. However it was not a lucid dream, i could not hear or see anything and only felt my heart pounding (mainly once i was starting to come out of it).

I still take things during the day's sometimes. Still try to walk that line of taking some then stopping (when back gets bad or i crave them). Whats weird is the craving is almost exactly like the craving for food but 1000x stronger. I had taken pain meds for a year or two straight but did take small breaks, a week or two in that time frame so i guess maybe not intirely straight for two years but that one event has made sure i never took it close to sleeping or morning which has most likely saved me a lot of problems (like taking it more often then i probably should).

[candy]

I may be confused, but did you not post a few days back regarding a decision to use Heroin. I may be wrong...but if your dealing with cravings with the type of opiates you are using now, believe me Heroin will only intensify your cravings even more for opiates.

Not sure if you did do the heroin you had or were getting, but if your struggling with opiates in a pill form, Heroin is only going to make things much worse.

I believe that you said you were looking for recreational use of H.....I don't know many who have been able to control that recreational use.

I am not getting on you or judging you in anyway. Quite the opposite! Trying to let you know that what your dealing with is difficult yes, but a heroin habit will only be that much worse!

Just trying to help you out!

[satori]

Yea i know, but i also have a lot of O (cooked Opium). So far pill forms have been the only thing i have had a problem with in the past. I dont even feel the urge to take any of the O or poppy pods its only been hydrocodone and oxycodone.

[satori]

Im by no means saying i cant become addicted to it. However, even at the hight of my oxycodone addiction i was taking 30mg of oxycodone a day (even though i had much more). I have always been able to walk the line but have wobbled over on to the sides from time to time. Heroin remains one thing i have always been curious about because it gets so much attention (neggative) and after reading about it i figured i would try it. Its hard to explain.... i think it go's back to when i had my wisdom teeth out. I was in sever pain and misserable. I didnt know what to do and didnt think the "pain meds" they gave me would do anything other then take a little bit of pain away. WELL boy was i SHOCKED! 15 minutes after managing to swallow 2 endocet i felt AMAZING, i was walking around the house mumbling (i feel good) but it sounded more like (imeel uud). Ever sense then i have had no desire to take anything other then pills, i LOVE the feeling of O and poppy tea but i have never CRAVED them. I would even say it feels about thes ame or little better then endocet but for some reason that craving feeling has always been directly related to the pill itself.

I wanted to hear some input on this experience though.... if any one had any idea what it could have been about or what caused it?

[RThompson]

I wanted to hear some input on this experience though.... if any one had any idea what it could have been about or what caused it?

Could've been a panic attack. You expected the drug to do one thing and suddenly it didn't; you'd taken more than normal; you panicked, seemingly, without realizing it. Maybe. You think? Look, seriously too, I'd dodge the heroin for a while. Trust me: I understand maintaining an addiction & not "overdoing" it... but that's the thing with H: you cannot tell for certain what you have, how much you're doing, the dose, et cetera, but from the effect, and that takes a few times to know within itself. THAT's why people OD (to death), usually, and if not, then it's most often a bad polydrug mix. If 30mg of oxy does you well (& 15mg of hydro can get you off, decently...), stick with them. Least until they stop having the same powerful effect. Work your way up. There's no race...

[shaunclo]

If 30mg of oxy does you well (& 15mg of hydro can get you off, decently...), stick with them. Least until they stop having the same powerful effect. Work your way up. There's no race...

Very Very Very well said, Thank you Thompson

[satori]

Could've been a panic attack. You expected the drug to do one thing and suddenly it didn't; you'd taken more than normal; you panicked, seemingly, without realizing it. Maybe. You think? Look, seriously too, I'd dodge the heroin for a while. Trust me: I understand maintaining an addiction & not "overdoing" it... but that's the thing with H: you cannot tell for certain what you have, how much you're doing, the dose, et cetera, but from the effect, and that takes a few times to know within itself. THAT's why people OD (to death), usually, and if not, then it's most often a bad polydrug mix. If 30mg of oxy does you well (& 15mg of hydro can get you off, decently...), stick with them. Least until they stop having the same powerful effect. Work your way up. There's no race...


It was more then a panic attack, i have had anxiety and panic attacks, the meds actualy qorked quiet well for a while and i couldnt sleep becuase i was just laying there. Im not saying its not possible because something obviously happend but this was quiet some time ago i just thought about it earlier and wrote it down.

About H, i can find it with a single phone call and nothing else. stopped taking opiates for a few weeks now (was on codeine and hydrocodone (30mg hydrocodone a day) but stopped. I have never exceeded a pre-set amount befor. THere have been times i took the amount for the day all at once but never exceeded (atleast that i can remember). I want the opiate feeling but all i have is H (got it for 10$). I have been thinking aobut taking a TINY TINY amount, like... a few grains of salt almost.... about that size to see what affect it has. Im not trying to work my way up to anything, im super curious as to how it feels and got it for relatively cheap.

[RThompson]

It was more then a panic attack, i have had anxiety and panic attacks, the meds actualy qorked quiet well for a while and i couldnt sleep becuase i was just laying there. Im not saying its not possible because something obviously happend but this was quiet some time ago i just thought about it earlier and wrote it down.

About H, i can find it with a single phone call and nothing else. stopped taking opiates for a few weeks now (was on codeine and hydrocodone (30mg hydrocodone a day) but stopped. I have never exceeded a pre-set amount befor. THere have been times i took the amount for the day all at once but never exceeded (atleast that i can remember). I want the opiate feeling but all i have is H (got it for 10$). I have been thinking aobut taking a TINY TINY amount, like... a few grains of salt almost.... about that size to see what affect it has. Im not trying to work my way up to anything, im super curious as to how it feels and got it for relatively cheap.

First, you say you want it, but there is no "the opiate feeling": everything is different, and there's a lot of space between hydrocodone and heroin.

Granted, if whatever happened to you back then was more than a panic attack and was a definite drug reaction of some kind, you've made the point of why so many are cautious in advising you on a move to heroin so quickly, or any other truly strong opiate for that matter. I'm sure you're curious as hell as to what H is like, and I'm sure you can get heroin really easily, and I'm sure many here can also, but not everyone here that can get H is a regular user of H. This comes from many things--availability, cost, et cetera--but there's also the factor that a lot of people make their way up to heroin eventually, and then realize one HAS to somewhat "settle" into a certain "area of preference" when it comes to their drug use or it will become something that is the antithesis of the real goal in most drug use anyway: a slightly better control over our own lives, individual illnesses, respective environments and everyday tedium.

And man, if you can hang on to enjoying 30mg of hydro, or fifty, or 100mg, and still enjoy it, then do it. Go to oxys for a while; try an OC20; try a MSContin60... something. Try something else. Enjoy these things and figure out which you like the best. If I knew you had 100mg of hydro in front of you right now & you were curious as to what it'd feel like to swallow them, I'd say, "Do it, and let me know..." But that $10 of whatever is in front of you now--though I'm pretty sure it won't kill you, heroin or not...--is just that, an illegal form of a drug that, minus a lab to test it in, is OBVIOUSLY not-any-percent-anything-certain, and I wouldn't want to say, "Fuck it, snort it!" But it seems like you'll do it anyway, either all at once or by eating grains at a time all day... if you're curious enough. And if H is available so easily, then why not find someone that you know that uses and is trustworty on info and talk to them. All I know is that you have something that's apparently grainy that you paid $10 for, and I don't wanna tell you to do anything with it.

Do what thou wilt...

...and good luck--I hope you find what you're looking for--if you do.

[satori]

It was a one time reaction, never happend again. Sense that i have taken.... Propoxy, tramadol, codeine, dihydrocodeine(SP), hydrocodone, and oxycodone. This was a VERY old story, atleast 4 years.

[RThompson]

It was a one time reaction, never happend again. Sense that i have taken.... Propoxy, tramadol, codeine, dihydrocodeine(SP), hydrocodone, and oxycodone. This was a VERY old story, atleast 4 years.

I understand. It just seemed to worry you.

Please don't get me wrong. But the strongest opiate you've done since is... what you were doing then: oxycodone.

Either way, I went back and reread this thread and realized that you never really brought up the "on-the-verge-of-trying-heroin"-bit yourself; I accidently made something of a discussion about this decision of yours.

I stand by what I said, but you never asked to hear it.

I apologize for doing so.

[albert7]

It was a one time reaction, never happend again. Sense that i have taken.... Propoxy, tramadol, codeine, dihydrocodeine(SP), hydrocodone, and oxycodone. This was a VERY old story, atleast 4 years. hey santori i had almost the exact experience when i was about 21 i acurered a habit of taking to many darvocets ,well any way i guess during the day that this strange thing that happened to me i was over doing it i guess i had took maybe 20 all during the day, when i went to bed that night i was haveing a hard time breathing so i layed down and the same exact thing happened to me it started slowly but very fast all of a sudden i could not move at all i strugled to move but no luck finally i seemed to see a very bright light that seemed to be drawing me towards it like a magnet i tryed to resist but it or whatever was drawing me closer to the brightest light i have ever sean at this point i new i was dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as i slowly came closer to the bright light a large door was opening and the light was coming from this huge door like the kind in a catholic church it was drawing me closer and closer at this point it seemed i was given a choice come into the light or go back with all my streanth i decidied i wanted to go back to my life i was given a choice i will never forget that day it will stay with me also im not afraid of death like i was before the time this happened , your the first person i have heard that this has happened to them and its been29 years. thank you i though i was seeing and feeling things that didnot exsist do do do do. later dude.

[satori]

I understand. It just seemed to worry you.

Please don't get me wrong. But the strongest opiate you've done since is... what you were doing then: oxycodone.

Either way, I went back and reread this thread and realized that you never really brought up the "on-the-verge-of-trying-heroin"-bit yourself; I accidently made something of a discussion about this decision of yours.

I stand by what I said, but you never asked to hear it.

I apologize for doing so.


No problem you have your openion and you have every right to express it. No problem.

[satori]

hey santori i had almost the exact experience when i was about 21 i acurered a habit of taking to many darvocets ,well any way i guess during the day that this strange thing that happened to me i was over doing it i guess i had took maybe 20 all during the day, when i went to bed that night i was haveing a hard time breathing so i layed down and the same exact thing happened to me it started slowly but very fast all of a sudden i could not move at all i strugled to move but no luck finally i seemed to see a very bright light that seemed to be drawing me towards it like a magnet i tryed to resist but it or whatever was drawing me closer to the brightest light i have ever sean at this point i new i was dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as i slowly came closer to the bright light a large door was opening and the light was coming from this huge door like the kind in a catholic church it was drawing me closer and closer at this point it seemed i was given a choice come into the light or go back with all my streanth i decidied i wanted to go back to my life i was given a choice i will never forget that day it will stay with me also im not afraid of death like i was before the time this happened , your the first person i have heard that this has happened to them and its been29 years. thank you i though i was seeing and feeling things that didnot exsist do do do do. later dude.

YEA!!!! OMG fantastic. Not that you went through that lol but that some one else has experienced it. My breathing slowed WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY down, it seemed like 10 times a minute but i dont know. The crazy thing is i had only taken 4 perc. the whole day.... its almost like.... the act of sleeping or TRYING to induce sleep while an opiate receptor is active can cause some type of... i dont know! i just know i was sinking into death, and i could feel it, not in my body but in my "mind". I was 100% lucid and i was aware of my body but could not feel it. I knew i had feet but could not feel them, i knew my heart was beating and i could barely feel that because it was so fast...... I had to fight like hell to get out of it. its hard to expalin to ANYBODY. I have had severe panick attacks, and severe anxiety attacks but they are NOOOTHING compared to this. It was actualy like dying, i have had sleep problem for the past 3-4 years sense then. Everynight i go to sleep feeling i will die so now sometimes i take clonopin> except i have worked past much of that and came to terms with mortatality. But..... yea a magnetic type feeling, or gravity... pulling me away (or down). I didnt think of god or church, it was actualy about my family and how sad it would be for them. I went to call it a neart death experience..... and i said "well i wasnt near death" but with the way i couldnt breath and my heart rate at god knows what rate (befor i tested) who knows how close it could have actualy been. It took a long time for me to stop shaking, and numbness to go away. It was also like i did die that night and i was a different person. Even people at school noticed and i just said i had an allergic reaction to med's. But... who i was befor and who i was directly after were different. However who you are a minute ago and who you are a inute form now are different people... but still.... very profound affect.