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JayTrizzle
12-12-2008, 09:47 AM
Can a nurse straight up lie to your face about why you're giving a urine sample? She said it was to test for bacteria, and when I got my discharge stuff, my chart was with it and it said they ordered a five panel. I was pissed pissed. Oh well, probably just another way the medical field fucks you over.

chemiKalz
12-12-2008, 03:41 PM
It's your word against hers, but that sounds illegal to me, lying about the reason for a test.

Poppylvr
12-12-2008, 06:33 PM
Can a nurse straight up lie to your face about why you're giving a urine sample? She said it was to test for bacteria, and when I got my discharge stuff, my chart was with it and it said they ordered a five panel. I was pissed pissed. Oh well, probably just another way the medical field fucks you over.
OY, JT, I'm sorry you ran into a lying nurse.
As a nurse myself, I hate it when one of us does something chickenshit and or boneheaded. This was both.
You absolutely are not supposed to lie to a patient about what a test is for. Do some nurses lie? Yes.
I can understand why a nurse would not want the hassle of telling you the truth, expecting an argument or worse. To that person, lying seems reasonable.
My approach is to tell my patient I need a urine sample and when they ask why, I say we need to know what drugs you have on board so we can treat you correctly. We need to have all the information so we can help and not harm you. The hospital is not using the drug screen for legal purposes - ie, they won't call the cops when you're positive, but if you don't explain that to the patient, then the patient will understandably be upset.
If the law needs your pee, the hospital is obliged to tell you and in many jurisdictions, a member of the police force collects your sample.
Again, I'm sorry you had a liar for a nurse, and sadly I'm not surprised.
Jay, I'm at work, so I hafta log off. Tomorrow I will contact you on your profile page.
I hope today is better than the last few have been.

candy
12-12-2008, 07:29 PM
OY, JT, I'm sorry you ran into a lying nurse.
As a nurse myself, I hate it when one of us does something chickenshit and or boneheaded. This was both.
You absolutely are not supposed to lie to a patient about what a test is for. Do some nurses lie? Yes.
I can understand why a nurse would not want the hassle of telling you the truth, expecting an argument or worse. To that person, lying seems reasonable.
My approach is to tell my patient I need a urine sample and when they ask why, I say we need to know what drugs you have on board so we can treat you correctly. We need to have all the information so we can help and not harm you. The hospital is not using the drug screen for legal purposes - ie, they won't call the cops when you're positive, but if you don't explain that to the patient, then the patient will understandably be upset.
If the law needs your pee, the hospital is obliged to tell you and in many jurisdictions, a member of the police force collects your sample.
Again, I'm sorry you had a liar for a nurse, and sadly I'm not surprised.
Jay, I'm at work, so I hafta log off. Tomorrow I will contact you on your profile page.
I hope today is better than the last few have been.


As a previous Emergency RN, NO, they cannot lie to you about the test they are taking. All they really need to do if it is a lab test is either have you sign a consent for some special test or a test for HIV.

I am with poppylvr her and sorry some nurse lied to you.
Makes us all look bad!
I would report it to the hospital and have the nurse reprimanded.
Even if the doc asked he to lie, she is out of line!

SHELLEY
12-12-2008, 07:43 PM
not if you're having a baby or are pregnant
they can run drug tests on you randomly w/o your permission
and if you test positive they can contact dcf (dept of children and families)
but thats florida tho

blutuesday
12-13-2008, 07:10 PM
As we talked before....I know in my state in most conditions, they need a consent before doing that ESPECIALLY in a dr. office setting. (I have worked more offices than hospitals)

Contemporarium
02-25-2009, 12:40 AM
Yeah it's probably different state to state.

Raz
02-25-2009, 04:30 AM
As we talked before....I know in my state in most conditions, they need a consent before doing that ESPECIALLY in a dr. office setting. (I have worked more offices than hospitals)


But ya didnt mention workin da big time scams....:rolleyes:

southernbelle
02-25-2009, 07:49 AM
You're so naughty!