Ecstasy!

[blutuesday]

God, what the fuck is it about kicking that makes me want to do Ecstasy *so* bad??

It isnt right away, it's just after a while. I am still having w/d yet I want to do other shit that doesnt help my kick per se. It's almost like I crave OTHER shit more than dope. For example, I have been wanting to get my drunk on bad, and go to the club and eat Ecstasy, yet I can barely leave the house or get out of bed to do the most simple tasks?

Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[poonwhalla]

I hear ya on the E thing. I have had a craving for it for a while but find it hard to leave the house outside of the good peeps who have a little benzo or opi to hook me up with. Getting the drunk on well its hard for me to leave that booze always brings me home. Maybe the E thing is that point you get to that you are one with everything and it is good. I get that way with most drugs, you know that point when you are just high. With E it feels soo good but for the next week I feel so depleated of seratonin. i gots no answers for ya but just a same boat thing. been about 2 years since I tasted E

[Raz]

i wonder what E would do to you while clucking......??

[poonwhalla]

For me it just delays the clucking

[blutuesday]

i wonder what E would do to you while clucking......??

I assume it would depend what it was based with. If its a pressed pill ya kno? Speed based prob not so great, but opiate based, eh, prob feel pretty decent.

Funny thing is, I am total heroin addict but I always liked the speedy ones the best.

I still have my tester kit! :D

Maybe going to the set doesnt sound so bad on that tip....cheap too.

[Raisin]

About a year and a half ago my then gf got ahold of a bunch of x and I had one hell of a weekend but I was rather inexperienced with it and didn't realize the hell that follows with the serotonin depletion. I'd rather go through dope withdrawals any day. The sex was great but I don't know if it was worth it. I wasn't right for almost two weeks.

Now that I think about it I remember bombing the hill that we lived at the bottom of on a skateboard (One that I wouldn't ride down sober) barefoot and the rush almost made it worth it.

[Raz]

can you buy e tester kits?.....Online i presume......I tell ya E an Amal (poppers) gave me the best buzz i ever had and some of the best sex.....

But i do know some peeps big in the Rave scene and too much E fucked them up, they had to take about 8 pills to get the same effect/get off..Took em quite a while to get back to normal, guess it has something to do with serotonin levels?

[chopstix]

i wonder what E would do to you while clucking......??

Yuck, probably a really good way to wind up really depressed for awhile, and probably risk serotonin syndrome..

I never get a let down after x, usually get a lift for a few days, but I don't take it that much and what I have taken is really good quality. It seems to help to take some 5HTP before you dose if the magic is starting to fade. Amazing drug though, too good to take too often imo..

[jonny-5]

ill do some with u, if youre willing to be patient for a couple weeks...

[ZodiacKiller]

Maybe going to the set doesnt sound so bad on that tip....cheap too.


What is this language you speak? God, I feel old.....:confused:

Anyway, the olden-day E was fucking fantastic, but all the crap I had in the 90s was like crappy acid, mixed with speed--didn't like it, but maybe I just got crappy stuff.

ZK

[poonwhalla]

What is this language you speak? God, I feel old.....:confused:

Anyway, the olden-day E was fucking fantastic, but all the crap I had in the 90s was like crappy acid, mixed with speed--didn't like it, but maybe I just got crappy stuff.

ZK

Nothing like the pure thing. All the other shit I'll do if you put it in front of m but don't blame me when I pick it apart ya know

[blutuesday]

can you buy e tester kits?.....Online i presume......I tell ya E an Amal (poppers) gave me the best buzz i ever had and some of the best sex.....

But i do know some peeps big in the Rave scene and too much E fucked them up, they had to take about 8 pills to get the same effect/get off..Took em quite a while to get back to normal, guess it has something to do with serotonin levels?


Yup online, for 40 bux!



ill do some with u, if youre willing to be patient for a couple weeks...

Fa sho!


What is this language you speak? God, I feel old.....:confused:

Anyway, the olden-day E was fucking fantastic, but all the crap I had in the 90s was like crappy acid, mixed with speed--didn't like it, but maybe I just got crappy stuff.

ZK

You know I'm crazy. Im surprised you STILL cant understand me...as long as we have been friends! You know I'm a cultural mutt...that language is Mutt-anese.

[cracksinthepavement]

Ecstacy is the one drug I cannot find a good solid source for. When the time is right, I fucking love that stuff - it's the most beautiful experience you can have while coherent (which is to say, opies can make you feel just as good - but your not gonna be very chatty. less your newer to the game i suppose). I used to be able to get the really good e, but it was from a crackhead who - like any crackhead - eventually screwed me. This was a black guy who always carried a gun - AND who I saw on the news about a month later, he had been stopped by the police when he ran and begain shooting at the cops (fucking crackheads). He is in the pin for a while. Attempted murder of a police officer - judge doesn't fuck around with that.

I saw it as karma. Ripped me off for many hundreds of dollars. Fuckin crackhead.

[Chipper]

God, what the fuck is it about kicking that makes me want to do Ecstasy *so* bad??

When I was on methadone I didn't feel like using E at all but re-discovered it after a slow taper about 8 years ago.

Now I look forward to club nights and allow at least 2 weeks between sessions.

I still enjoy the way it makes me interact with good music. I love the stuff as much as the opi's.

I don't recommend using E during w/d's - all it did was make me feel weird/hyper but you may react differently.

[ZodiacKiller]

You know I'm crazy. Im surprised you STILL cant understand me...as long as we have been friends! You know I'm a cultural mutt...that language is Mutt-anese.

I do understand ya, hun--I was just making a funny ;). And yeah, you be crazy fo shizzle....


ZK

[Larry]

Now a days its so tough in my case probably impossible to find some good quality E. About 6 months ago I was wd off oxy and just like yourself was looking for ANYTHING that would make me feel better just for afew hours. I ended up buying a pill, Shit cost me $20 bucks and the pill was absolute garbage ( Most likely it was like 25% meth bomb with some ephedrine and maybe some dxm in it ) That was my first and most likely last experience with extacy unless someone was to offer some pure molly.


Hey Blue, Its great to see you back on here, I hope things are going pretty good with ya... Take it easy - Larry

[Pantopon Pete]

Now a days its so tough in my case probably impossible to find some good quality E. About 6 months ago I was wd off oxy and just like yourself was looking for ANYTHING that would make me feel better just for afew hours. I ended up buying a pill, Shit cost me $20 bucks and the pill was absolute garbage ( Most likely it was like 25% meth bomb with some ephedrine and maybe some dxm in it ) That was my first and most likely last experience with extacy unless someone was to offer some pure molly.


Hey Blue, Its great to see you back on here, I hope things are going pretty good with ya... Take it easy - Larry

The pure molly is a mixed bag- it feels amazing but you rush, peak, and come down hard within like an hour. I prefer a real good pressy for that 8 hour joy fest anyday.

[NV12]

Amazing drug though, too good to take too often imo..

Especially if taken before spending lots of hours on top of a mountain, on a bridge, or by a river.

[God_Albino]

my friend used to get a jar every few months and the whole house would roll for days, there was always a god-awful vibe generated but everyone else was too high to feel it.

the bad vibrations entered my skull when it was opened on acid and never left. their house is haunted now as a result. one person tried to off themself after that session, another crashed their car, too good to be true.

[EleusisII]

I don't know man... Souds to me like a bad idea to combine the depresion from WDs, with the crash you get the next day from El when your seretonin has been depleted...

[Narkotikon]

I don't trust E now. Haven't done it in years, and never really did like the stuff all that much. I'd think today's pills would be cut to hell with crap, probably meth.

[Tea Time]

God, what the fuck is it about kicking that makes me want to do Ecstasy *so* bad??

It isnt right away, it's just after a while. I am still having w/d yet I want to do other shit that doesnt help my kick per se. It's almost like I crave OTHER shit more than dope. For example, I have been wanting to get my drunk on bad, and go to the club and eat Ecstasy, yet I can barely leave the house or get out of bed to do the most simple tasks?

Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

I can completely relate. It is not always that I crave ecstacy, but it is usually just a craving for an "altered" mindstate of some type. Sometimes I really do want to roll though...so I can definitely understand your desire to eat tab after tab when you're in WD's!

As for what X feels like when you are in WD's, for some people it is extremely enjoyable and it allows them to forget about their WD's for a little while. For others it exacerbates the horrible Restless Leg Syndrome and general restlessness making you feel terrible. It can definitely vary from person to person and even from experience to experience within the same person. I have had tabs while in WD's and one time it made the RLS terrible and I really regretted taking it. On one of the other times I hippy-flipped and it was great - it allowed me to forget about the WD's for quite a while.

You mentioned drinking while in WD's. That is something that I personally would AVOID!!! I have made the mistake of trying to drink to alleviate WD symptoms more than once and I have *ALWAYS* regretted it. Not only did it make me feel worse while I was drunk, but the day after was twice as bad as it would have been had I not been drinking.

I know that some people drink to deal with WD's, but not me. I would definitely suggest avoiding alcohol if you are in WD's...


I assume it would depend what it was based with. If its a pressed pill ya kno? Speed based prob not so great, but opiate based, eh, prob feel pretty decent.

Funny thing is, I am total heroin addict but I always liked the speedy ones the best.

Not trying to be a douche at all, but the whole "opiate-based" tabs and "speed-based" tabs isn't actually true. People started calling them "opiate-based" and "speed-based" to describe the effects of a particular type (brand) of MDMA. But good ecstacy should be pure MDMA with nothing else included. Adding Heroin (or other opiates) to tabs would actually cost significantly more money which would hurt the dealers profit...that is the absolute last thing that the majority of dealers want to do.

It is possible that a person could add Heroin or opiates to an ecstacy tab because they enjoy the combination, but it is extremely unlikely that anyone would do this on any mass scale because it would cost too much money. Taking X with opiates separately is actually a good experience though. I have done that on many occasions. The only negative thing is that it causes me to get overheated.

With all that being said, it is pretty likely that you will come across tabs that have speed in them; this is very common. Speed is much, much cheaper than MDMA and people will add speed to a tab in order to increase their profits. Tabs have also been found to have ketamine, DXM, MDA, PCP, and various research chemicals included to mimic true MDMA, but these are added because they are cheaper than "actual" ecstacy would be.

Like I said, not trying to be an asshole at all...Just trying to dispel rumors so they don't continue getting passed on. Take care,

TT

[Narkotikon]

Yeah, I remember that, with the whole "smacky" rolls and "speedy" rolls thing. I think what they were really referring to was MDA v. MDMA. MDA is just mellower than MDMA, hence the smacky roll thing. It's not because it has any heroin in it. I mean, think of it this way. Heroin is a lot more expensive than E. They're not going to use something that's expensive as a cut. That would be silly. They're going to use something cheap, like speed, or DXM, or something like that. A good pill should just be MDMA or I guess MDA if you enjoy that. I personally wouldn't want a pill cut with other active ingredients, but I'm sure I have before when I was younger. Each pill was different feeling, unless I bought a couple of the same pills. But, anyway, yeah, there's not heroin in E.

[rockbottom]

ive only had powder mdma from years ago----shit was so good we'd shoot it-----i guess i didn't know what seretonin shit meant----because if we had it we did it if we were out you were just really tired not suicidially depressed-----ive been trying to get the pills for years---but cant get a hook up---i really cant believe these youngsters think -im- a narc------bastards;)

[underide]

I actually remember taking ecstasy in (moderate) opiate withdrawal once
As far as i remember, it actually brought me straight out of withdrawal (well, to some extent - it was more like the pills i took overpowered the mental and physical discomfort).
Well, for about 7-8 hours or so. Also i think i got lucky with the pills that time. And obviously they bropught me out of WD's not in the opiate kind of way, (for obvious reasons) but they just made me feel great and made me forget about my withdrawal, at least temporarily

I think i ate about 6-7pills that time, being one of those folks that has been a very regular X eater for about 2 years, before getting into heroin, and i think all that E has messed up my head for a long while and my tolerance to MDMA for good.
A the peak of my Ecstasy eating escapades i would be doing anything between 10-15 E's per night, depending on quality. I even knew folks who would eat up to 20 E's per night and still be able to keep it together,(well somewhat at least :rolleyes:)

Well anyway, that time i was in Opiate WD's and ate those pills, i think it did bring me a much needed 6-8 hours or so releif, where i was just feeling good. But then ofcourse the pills wore off, leaving me where i left off and feeling pretty shitty alright. But probably not all too bad, i think it was just the opiate withdrawal rearing it's ugly head when the pills wore off, plus maybe a bit of that dreaded E comedown syndrome.
But i have noticed that if you haven't done pills in a while (months to a year), even if you were a 'chronic' user in the past, the comedowns are not as bad as they used to be (unless you continue to do E regularly again, ofcourse)


Also, about 2 months ago i got my hands on some KILLER pills over here, brand -'Diamonds', and being on 'done and benzo's, i still had a WONDERFUL time with those pills. Haven't felt THAT good in quite a while
My guess is those pills were loaded with MDMA, but i think there was also something else in them (maybe a little K) that made them extremely enjoyable for me that night.

About a month after that, i decided to repeat the experience and got some more 'diamonds' but from a different source, and those diamonds were probably a different batch to the ones i got the previous time
I ate 8 of them and the experience was far from the one i had with the original 'diamonds' . Come to think of it, i think they even looked different to the ones i bought from my trusted source.

Or maybe it just wasn't my night
Yeah, it's hard to explain, but sometimes (in my case at least), even if you eat the same pills after a while, you can still have a totally different experience, and not always a good one.
Set and setting are also important for a good E experience, i find

In my opinion, taking extasy on opiates, detracts from your overall MDMA experience (if it was MDMA in the pills to start with, ofcourse)
Opiates make the MDMA experience a little duller and definitely not as intense.

I don't do pills very often anymore at all, but sometimes i also crave a little ECSTASY, and think back to the days where i had some unforgettable times on this wonderful drug
But like someone else has mentioned here, it is a drug that is best taken in moderation, as it can lose it's majic pretty quick if you overdo it over a lengthy period of time

To bluetuesday - i say go for it, if you can get your hands on it
The worse that can happen is you will feel pretty shitty for a few hours coming down, but benzo's and alcohol (in moderation) can make the landing a little softer

[blutuesday]

When I was on methadone I didn't feel like using E at all but re-discovered it after a slow taper about 8 years ago.

Now I look forward to club nights and allow at least 2 weeks between sessions.

I still enjoy the way it makes me interact with good music. I love the stuff as much as the opi's.

I don't recommend using E during w/d's - all it did was make me feel weird/hyper but you may react differently.

Ok..well maybe Ill wait a bit...but u are so right about all the shit u said about the music. Its like u feel that shit in ur veins. Appreciate it too.


I do understand ya, hun--I was just making a funny ;). And yeah, you be crazy fo shizzle....


ZK

Hahaha. I do be crazy huh

[Hiram]

I haven't rolled since Halloween in Vegas 2006. L will always be my fav, but I've been wanting to roll again here recently. Prlly roll one night and trip the other 2 at the phish shows coming up in March. It's hard to say though, could be straight up Fear and Loathing in Hampton based on my own historical data. Ain't no way there's any decent chemicals round these parts, unless you're into meth. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that Missouri is indian for shit drugs. These kids around here can the speed all to themselves as far as I'm concerned. Maybe I need to get a cook to put some good ol MDMA in his mix every once in awhile.

[limitless_euphoria]

God, what the fuck is it about kicking that makes me want to do Ecstasy *so* bad??

It isnt right away, it's just after a while. I am still having w/d yet I want to do other shit that doesnt help my kick per se. It's almost like I crave OTHER shit more than dope. For example, I have been wanting to get my drunk on bad, and go to the club and eat Ecstasy, yet I can barely leave the house or get out of bed to do the most simple tasks?

Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Shit Tuesday, I haven't rolled my face off in at least six years. I could sure go for one now that you bring it up. You know what I *really, really* wanna do..,.HYPOTHETICALLY (if any LEOs should be reading) is drop a few hits of blotter of do a couple gel tabs. Back almost exactly three years ago *SOMEONE I KNOW* did like 8 hits of blotter and tripped 14 hours. The person *ahem* was too scared to eat food because it wouldn't stop moving. A lot better than DeehMerz (DXM) if you axe moi. xD

Alas, I have nothing cool in my hot little hands. I remember months after I hadn't rolled I found 2 E pills that had fallen through my jacket lining. I was rolling my teeth out that night and my wife couldn't get over how nice I was being to her. Little did she know...shhhhhhhhhhhh :D

[blutuesday]

Shit Tuesday, I haven't rolled my face off in at least six years. I could sure go for one now that you bring it up. You know what I *really, really* wanna do..,.HYPOTHETICALLY (if any LEOs should be reading) is drop a few hits of blotter of do a couple gel tabs. Back almost exactly three years ago *SOMEONE I KNOW* did like 8 hits of blotter and tripped 14 hours. The person *ahem* was too scared to eat food because it wouldn't stop moving. A lot better than DeehMerz (DXM) if you axe moi. xD

Alas, I have nothing cool in my hot little hands. I remember months after I hadn't rolled I found 2 E pills that had fallen through my jacket lining. I was rolling my teeth out that night and my wife couldn't get over how nice I was being to her. Little did she know...shhhhhhhhhhhh :D


HAHAHA! I could never roll secretly. I am SO obvious. I have light blue eyes and when I roll they turn to these huge black dots where there is no blue at all.

I look alien like.

[nycjrt]

if i could get some real MDMA i would love to test it vs. wds - although the depression from coming down off of both (i always get mad depressed coming off opiates- subs don't help much) might be too much to bear- 5-htp could help, but if it didn't.... alas, real pills are extremely hard to come by in my area these days- to get an idea, check out the listings at pillreports.com tons of speed-based, bzp and even lsd laced pills but very few real MDA/MDMA pills- even mollies are sketchy. unfortunately, test kits cannot distinguish between mda/mdma, a few years back when there was a flood of MDA pills, i took plenty, but never enjoy them as much as pure mdma - nothing terrible, it just hits me in a different way, and i am always disappointed because i'm expecting the mdMa experience... even the pills with mdma have a very low amount compared to the ones in the early 90s - back then in NYC you'd pay $20-30 a pill, and one was enough for a great night out (maybe another half around 6am to top off) - when people overdid it and took 3-4 they were complete messes, unable to function at all. lol now kids are buying pills for $4-6, but they are so weak they have to take 5 or 6 at a time...the last good clean pills i had were in ibiza - i was able to party like i was 19 again, and remembered what a wonderful wonderful drug MDMA is...i did take plenty of 5-htp at bedtime and i avoided any depression- the few mdma pills i've come across here in the states were pretty weak, and definitely contain lots of extra speed- 5htp helped out each time, i swear by it! i've only rolled on subs, i wonder how a dope/pill combo would be?

[underide]

if i could get some real MDMA i would love to test it vs. wds - although the depression from coming down off of both (i always get mad depressed coming off opiates- subs don't help much) might be too much to bear- 5-htp could help, but if it didn't.... alas, real pills are extremely hard to come by in my area these days- to get an idea, check out the listings at pillreports.com tons of speed-based, bzp and even lsd laced pills but very few real MDA/MDMA pills- even mollies are sketchy. unfortunately, test kits cannot distinguish between mda/mdma, a few years back when there was a flood of MDA pills, i took plenty, but never enjoy them as much as pure mdma - nothing terrible, it just hits me in a different way, and i am always disappointed because i'm expecting the mdMa experience... even the pills with mdma have a very low amount compared to the ones in the early 90s - back then in NYC you'd pay $20-30 a pill, and one was enough for a great night out (maybe another half around 6am to top off) - when people overdid it and took 3-4 they were complete messes, unable to function at all. lol now kids are buying pills for $4-6, but they are so weak they have to take 5 or 6 at a time...the last good clean pills i had were in ibiza - i was able to party like i was 19 again, and remembered what a wonderful wonderful drug MDMA is...i did take plenty of 5-htp at bedtime and i avoided any depression- the few mdma pills i've come across here in the states were pretty weak, and definitely contain lots of extra speed- 5htp helped out each time, i swear by it! i've only rolled on subs, i wonder how a dope/pill combo would be?

I like MDA
Not as much as MDMA, but i definitely think it's second best (for me, at least ) to MDMA
MDA was/is the original 'hug drug' right? Originating back in late 60's in the US, i think, WAY before Ecstasy became known to the general public, and a lot of hippies and even bikers used it quite often back then. Or at least that's what i was told by the person who got me this drug

I had experienced pure MDA (powder) twice, years ago, and enjoyed the experience quite a lot from what i remember.
In my opinion, MDA is actually pretty close to MDMA, only that MDA is more psychedellic/hallucinogenic than MDMA and has a little more bodyload compared to the latter.
Plus it doesn't last quite as long (although i have heard people say the contrary, that it if you take a substantial dose all at once it can last up to about 8-9 hours, with a mild trippy comedown/aftereffects.
MDA although pretty close to MDMA, is unique in its' effects and personally i would love to do it again, but apart from getting it in ecstasy/pill form here and there, it (MDA) is actually very rare over here, in its' pure form, like i got those times with my experience.

slightly OT to this post:
but i also agree wit TeaTime and others who say that opiate/heroin laced ecstasy is pure myth
Apart from being utterly non economical, the amounts of opiates or heroin in those pills would have fuck-all added effect on you, since heroin has a really TERRIBLE oral bioavailibility, so it would make very little sense in manufacturing heroin/opiate laced E pills on a large scale