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oxy kid
12-01-2008, 10:26 PM
Is it better to break them down and snort them, or sublingualy? or just swallow them.

What is the best? I feel like they go away pretty fast when I snort them and I know its not the best for me because they are not water soluble. This is just a once in a blue moon thing pretty much, but I just want to know the best route of administration.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

I know I havnt been around for a couple weeks, just been busy with school and what not. Missed you guys!

marshalldylan1
12-01-2008, 10:31 PM
Just swallow em, greater bioavailability.

When I snort em, it's like you said, they go away really fast. It usually gives me a quick rush of fucked upness, but quickly fades, and I know by snorting em I'm not really absorbing much. I just stick to swallowing, you get more bang for ya buck.

Groggy
12-01-2008, 10:36 PM
it depends. are you looking for the ROA that will hit the quickest? personally I always just swallow them. from what I understand IV xanax is pretty pointless in that it's not water soluble.

insufflation is probably the fastest followed by sublingual and finally swallowing them being the slowest with probably the longest duration of effect.

sopark4000
12-01-2008, 10:37 PM
Just break them in half and swallow them if you sniff them all that happens is they will go down your throat in your saliva the same as if you had ate them no extra rush and letting them dissolve under your tongue in my opinion also doesn't work any faster and tastes like shit so like I said just eat them they begin to take effect within 15-20 minutes anyway.

oxy kid
12-01-2008, 11:10 PM
I'm just a HUGE snorting fan. I figure I'll be going to bed before midnight here anyway ( which is in about an hour) so I snorted 2mgs, and sublingily 1mg....

pretty ZOOLOOED at the moment but loving it. So relaxed. I wish some one was sitting over here splitting them!


might throw a little sub in there as well.

Somebody told me about a month ago that the chemical make up of xanax and bupe relates a lot to H. It sure doesnt feel that way, but has anybody ever heard that?

xanaxxxxxx....love it.

RELAXATIOn



I havn't been this barred in a gooooood while. Gotta love it.

I have finals all week, so I'm trying to have an enjoyble night tonight, what do you guys suggest? I have a few perk 5s , some 1mg xanax, suboxone, and a couple addies....(but I really need those to study all week)

What do you guys think?

marshalldylan1
12-02-2008, 02:56 AM
Hey man, I randomly ran into a guy selling lots of xanax tonight.

I'm barred out too! Didn't snort any though, but I'm thinking about it hmmmm...

Bout to go smoke a bowl, peaceeeeeee

oxy kid
12-03-2008, 10:38 PM
Gotta love the benzos.

Does anybody like the "hangover" type benzo feeling when you wake up in the mornings? I'm not too fond of it.

EleusisII
12-04-2008, 04:33 AM
If you want faster onset, just take it sublingually, keep it under your tongue. Snorting is a bad choice with bioavailability.

bigfootlives
12-04-2008, 05:16 AM
Does anybody like the "hangover" type benzo feeling when you wake up in the mornings? I'm not too fond of it.

Only with long-lasting benzos like clonazepam I find. Boy does this thread make me wish I had the opportunity to try xanax one day. I've heard so much great shit about it.

EleusisII
12-04-2008, 05:27 AM
I've had better benzos honestly. I mean it's pretty good, but I actually prefer Valium or Nitrazepam.

It's not like it's hard to get though, is it?
I don't know how strict they are in BC, but whenever I'm in Toronto, I just go to walkin clinic, tell them I'm travelling and need something for the flight, and it always nets me 15-30 xanax.

For best results, I recommend developing a long term relationship with a doc, even a walkin clinic doc.
With time I went from the doc absolutely refusing to write percocets or xanax to that point where they ask "What do you want?"

Deadfiend
12-18-2008, 10:33 PM
EAt EaT EaT....nose way is a big waste, i.v. is a waste too unless you know what your doing then you don't even get a rush so just eat em. If you want them to kick in better take 1 or 2 the drink a few beers or a few glasses of wine, but keep it at only a few or you might blackout and might find yourself in jail the next day.:mad:

Narkotikon
12-18-2008, 11:12 PM
Like everyone else has said, just swallow the pills. Alprazolam has a GREAT oral bioavailability. You can also do them sublingually, but I found out yesterday that's not the best way to do it, because it does wear off a lot quicker, which is partly why I did that extra fourth milligram yesterday. Xanax does have a short half-life though. I'd say 6-8 hours. So, in comparison to say Klonopin, it will of course not last as long. But, taking one every 6-8 hours is what I've been doing. It's working wonders. My only concern is that I don't want to become dependent on these, and I don't want to go through any w/d symptoms. I'm only going to be taking it for 12-18 days though, and I have zero benzo tolerance, so I'm not that worried. Now, if I were taking them for a month or more, I would be. Plus, I don't know what your dose is, but I think I read on Wikipedia that people who take more than 4mg a day are more likely to become dependent / develop a tolerance more quickly. Good luck. Snorting does work, but I think it has to do more with the fact that it drips back down your throat and you'll eventually absorb it orally. I mean, yes it is somewhat water-soluble, but nowhere near what a true snorting drug like coke would be. And, as others have said, snorting it will just make it wear off faster. If this is for w/d, I'd HIGHLY recommend you take them orally. That way each one will last a little longer and you won't have to waste as much by redosing.

chopstix
12-18-2008, 11:24 PM
I realize this thread is kinda dead but, the best roa for most benzos is to just chew them up, wait a few minutes and then have a drink.

You can't (safely or efficiently) shoot, snort, put drugs under your tongue, or in your butt (the latter three all being mucous membranes and effectively the same roa) if they're not water soluble.

There are a few exceptions to this rule, but you're better off just chewing or swallowing the pills.

EDIT: "Alprazolam is a white crystalline powder, which is soluble in methanol or ethanol but which has no appreciable solubility in water at physiological pH"

From: http://www.rxlist.com/xanax-drug.htm

Deadfiend
12-18-2008, 11:25 PM
Like everyone else has said, just swallow the pills. Alprazolam has a GREAT oral bioavailability. You can also do them sublingually, but I found out yesterday that's not the best way to do it, because it does wear off a lot quicker, which is partly why I did that extra fourth milligram yesterday. Xanax does have a short half-life though. I'd say 6-8 hours.

Try 2-4hr.'s for each dose

Narkotikon
12-18-2008, 11:31 PM
Try 2-4hr.'s for each dose


Well, yeah, it varies. That was just my experience. This is the first time I've had Xanax since Oct. 2006, so--like I said--I have no tolerance, which is a good thing in my book, because I've read so many horror stories of benzo w/d. I just don't want that on top of the opiate addiction I have. It's lasting longer for me probably because I have no tolerance, and I hope to keep it that way.

lib.sOCialist
12-19-2008, 11:26 AM
Ill always have some Benzo's around before i do any stims. like coke or dex-amph.

rockbottom
12-19-2008, 02:36 PM
now i always sublingual them---when i was drinking i would chew them up followed by my ETOH---never snorted one so no comment

blutuesday
12-19-2008, 02:40 PM
Is it better to break them down and snort them, or sublingualy? or just swallow them.

What is the best? I feel like they go away pretty fast when I snort them and I know its not the best for me because they are not water soluble. This is just a once in a blue moon thing pretty much, but I just want to know the best route of administration.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

I know I havnt been around for a couple weeks, just been busy with school and what not. Missed you guys!

We talked about this, no?

Dont trust my answer. Well, Ill tell u again. SWALLOW the fucking things.

:) K? Love T(ony) HAR HAR HAR

Narkotikon
12-19-2008, 02:42 PM
T(ony). God, you're not OxyC in guise are you? J/K :D

BigLou
12-27-2008, 06:38 AM
i always took valium, ativan, and klonopin sublingually but the taste of xanax was bitter, but lately i have been taking my xanax sublingually and it does hit me faster i just noticed (and from what i hear) it doesnt last as long

limitless_euphoria
12-27-2008, 07:54 AM
If you want faster onset, just take it sublingually, keep it under your tongue. Snorting is a bad choice with bioavailability.

Unlike ativan or k-pins, I always though xanax was meant strictly for oral consumption. Whenever I've snorted any kind of benzo that wasn't intended for sublingual use it's been MURDER on my nose/sinuses. :( Icky. Fixing them is dangerous to my understanding. When they did the studies on subs they found in France a few cases where people mixed subs with xannies, shot the mixture and subsequently died. Just some food for thought in case any of you who have the jammie fever were thinking about fixing one.

mmnyc9
12-27-2008, 08:17 AM
I think I remember hearing a Coroner say he could tell from doing a Autopsi that the person had snorted or ived benzos. It stays in your lungs, something like that. Ask Dr Baden on HBO was it, I think.

oxy kid
12-30-2008, 12:04 AM
I think I remember hearing a Coroner say he could tell from doing a Autopsi that the person had snorted or ived benzos. It stays in your lungs, something like that. Ask Dr Baden on HBO was it, I think.

I have heard that before as well. It's not water soluble, so I guess it has to stay somewhere. I'm not sure how long it takes your body to break it down.

bigfootlives
12-30-2008, 01:40 AM
I think I remember hearing a Coroner say he could tell from doing a Autopsi that the person had snorted or ived benzos. It stays in your lungs, something like that. Ask Dr Baden on HBO was it, I think.

I thought any pills can stay in your lungs if you inject them long enough and not use a micron filter.

mmnyc9
12-30-2008, 07:49 AM
It seems there is something with Xanix, Valium maybe because they don't break down in H2O. It's long term

underide
12-30-2008, 08:14 AM
Hate to break it to you lads, but Xanax IS quite Effective via snorting ROA

And i did recently try that (with the generic 2mg xanax bars GG 2 4 9)
by the way - the above bars are not bitter at all, (like the 'upjohn' brand tabs which are quite bitter, which even sting a little when snorted)

the effect is quite potent and almost immediate
there is no way it can be attributed to the 'drip' like some of you 'non-belivers' might claim, since the effects are apparent even before the drip has a chance to start sliding down your throat

You don't have to take my word for it, but there are some very credible (in my opinion) and longstanding opiophiles like WarmCyanide and Johnny5, Ndoftaworld, among others, who can confirm the exact same thing - you can snort water-insoluble Xanax and achieve quite rapid and rather potent effects
the drawback is - snorting xanax doesn't last quite as long as taking them orally, but it appears to be a more potent ROA

Furthermore, like i stated bfore - there are folks over here (Ireland) who snort Heroin Base (water insoluble) achieving effects very close to smoking the same heroin base and even OD on it, via the snorting Route

Myself, i have snorted Heroin base twice, and as far as i can remember it was as effective as smoking it on the foil, maybe even more so
The 'drip' theory doesn't even apply here, since heroin's oral bioavailability is EXTREMELY poor (especially if we're talking about street heroin)

The thing is, it has been proven, that for a substance to be effective via snorting ROA, it doesn't have to be water soluble
And while it is true that water insoluble substances cannot be injected (unless it is Heroin base and you add citric acid), there is quite a different biochemical/pharmacological 'mechanics' at play when you snort the water-insoluble substances

Maybe Rescorcinol (who does agree with me on that, as far as i remember) can explain this better than me, although there was an even more intriguing paper/study explaining just why it is that it is possible to snort water-insoluble substances and get proper effects from it, albeit just a tiny bit not as effective as snorting water soluble substances, but still efficient enough to be properly effective

I'll try look for that paper/study now - it explains close to laymen terms how the mucous membrane plays a significant role in making the water-insoluble compounds/drugs cross the Blood-brain barrier

All that is on top of peronal experience which is affirmative (at least to me, that you can snort any benzo and get full (or close to full ) effects from doing so, albeit trading the potency/onset for the duration of action

With all of that said, my still preffered method for benzo consumption is just taking them orally

wesley90
01-01-2009, 08:16 PM
I tried snorting, sublingually, and oral consumption today and I have to say that swallowing them is the best ROA for me anyways...

litetite420
01-01-2009, 08:23 PM
EAt EaT EaT....nose way is a big waste, i.v. is a waste too unless you know what your doing then you don't even get a rush so just eat em. If you want them to kick in better take 1 or 2 the drink a few beers or a few glasses of wine, but keep it at only a few or you might blackout and might find yourself in jail the next day.:mad:
i have totoally wokin up in jail twice frm takin xanax fucking sucks wakin up not knowing how u got there and shit fuck that shit

ndoftaworld
06-26-2011, 08:01 PM
Hate to break it to you lads, but Xanax IS quite Effective via snorting ROA

And i did recently try that (with the generic 2mg xanax bars GG 2 4 9)
by the way - the above bars are not bitter at all, (like the 'upjohn' brand tabs which are quite bitter, which even sting a little when snorted)

the effect is quite potent and almost immediate
there is no way it can be attributed to the 'drip' like some of you 'non-belivers' might claim, since the effects are apparent even before the drip has a chance to start sliding down your throat

You don't have to take my word for it, but there are some very credible (in my opinion) and longstanding opiophiles like WarmCyanide and Johnny5, Ndoftaworld, among others, who can confirm the exact same thing - you can snort water-insoluble Xanax and achieve quite rapid and rather potent effects
the drawback is - snorting xanax doesn't last quite as long as taking them orally, but it appears to be a more potent ROA

Furthermore, like i stated bfore - there are folks over here (Ireland) who snort Heroin Base (water insoluble) achieving effects very close to smoking the same heroin base and even OD on it, via the snorting Route

Myself, i have snorted Heroin base twice, and as far as i can remember it was as effective as smoking it on the foil, maybe even more so
The 'drip' theory doesn't even apply here, since heroin's oral bioavailability is EXTREMELY poor (especially if we're talking about street heroin)

The thing is, it has been proven, that for a substance to be effective via snorting ROA, it doesn't have to be water soluble
And while it is true that water insoluble substances cannot be injected (unless it is Heroin base and you add citric acid), there is quite a different biochemical/pharmacological 'mechanics' at play when you snort the water-insoluble substances

Maybe Rescorcinol (who does agree with me on that, as far as i remember) can explain this better than me, although there was an even more intriguing paper/study explaining just why it is that it is possible to snort water-insoluble substances and get proper effects from it, albeit just a tiny bit not as effective as snorting water soluble substances, but still efficient enough to be properly effective

I'll try look for that paper/study now - it explains close to laymen terms how the mucous membrane plays a significant role in making the water-insoluble compounds/drugs cross the Blood-brain barrier

All that is on top of peronal experience which is affirmative (at least to me, that you can snort any benzo and get full (or close to full ) effects from doing so, albeit trading the potency/onset for the duration of action

With all of that said, my still preffered method for benzo consumption is just taking them orally

Woohoo a shout-out!! :D

Anyway, sorry for resurrecting this old mummy of a thread, just wanted to say I finally got ahold of some xannies after awhile and re-reading up on all the wonderful ROA's/experiences/etc.

Now, my favorite ROA is to snort one for that quick pick me up, then parachute the rest (or a sizeable amount) for legs, seems to keep both the twitchy-side AND the impatient 'I'm not feeling this anymore... blah!' sides happy!

Tried to fix and shoot a couple times, but really not worth all the effort IMO.

Nd

Der Alte Krieger
06-26-2011, 10:01 PM
I havnt snorted anything in years and I just got bored enough to snort a fucking xanax. I don't believe myself sometimes.

Dutch
06-26-2011, 10:26 PM
I love snorting Xanies! Only the .5 and 1mg tho, I find the 'Barz have a waxy quality that sticks to my sinuses and makes me sneeze and dry swallow. It's really uncomfortable. I'll usually snort 1mg and chew another 1mg and just keep doing .5 piles slowly over the course of the night.

chopstix
06-26-2011, 10:31 PM
The reason it "works" is that they're slightly lipid (fat) soluble, most of the pill will wind up in your gut though - overall snorting is a slower ROA than just swallowing if you count absorbing the *entire* dose..

I just chew 'em enough to break them up a bit, helps break them down faster in yer gut..

squareone
06-26-2011, 10:39 PM
Am I being trolled into actually trying this?

Der Alte Krieger
06-26-2011, 11:00 PM
Am I being trolled into actually trying this?

I think I was. It was real subtle but now I feel like the last kid around the campfire to "get" the "Ah whata goo siam", except my nose burns .
And I seem to feel no effect whatsoever after 20 minutes or so. Maybe I should have potentiated it by smoking some banana skins.

Dutch
06-27-2011, 12:31 AM
I can say i've been fuuuuuuucked up from no other ROA than snorting Xanax. It definitely works. I like smashing down like 2 to 4 1mg pills and just doing tiny lines while watching a TV show or something. Then falling right to sleep, sometimes ill wake up in the middle of the night to the lights still on and a pile still on the plate...

Spork
06-27-2011, 01:44 AM
Gimme Twenty Zane Ax an imma start droppin em

oxy kid
06-29-2011, 02:44 AM
Wow, resurrecting one of my REALLY old threads.

Up, can't sleep. Been having trouble with it lately, going to try and discuss with a doc tomorrow that I have a personal relationship with about the potential for a shorter acting benzo to help with my panic attacks/getting to sleep on nights I have trouble.

I'm currently on 1mg of kpin, twice a day, and it's great, I'd love to be bumped up to the 2mg, but for now, 1mg is fine. But tonight for instance, I've had a lot going on with work, life, relationships, etc....and I just started breathing heavy, and here came the panic attack. I took my Kpin, but didn't get the relief I used to get from Xanax when I had a script for it.

Do you think if my doc is compassionate enough he might write me a small xanax script in addition to my kpin script. The kpin works wonders for my anxiety, but just doesn't do the trick for the rare times that I actually do have a panic attack. And it would be nice to have right now to get to sleep.

borohydride
06-29-2011, 04:51 AM
Benzos can readily be injected but most people find the effects overwhelming. Virtually all benzos have very, very poor water-solubility but all are readily soluble in propylene glycol which is, suspiciously to me, sold on the net in small bottles. Medical injectable benzos are often in propylene glycol...

PiLL CLiNToN
07-16-2011, 08:10 AM
If you want faster onset, just take it sublingually, keep it under your tongue. Snorting is a bad choice with bioavailability.
Yea, under the tongue is the best thing to do ESP. with the "xanny pies" if you ever do get them....they aint bars but they do work damn well though and dissolve pretty much within less than half a minute of putting that little piece of heaven in ur mouth....i must say got some bars they had 1 and 1 written on them they SUCKED.....always got sandoz untill these mylan pies which arent that bad IMO ...... guess ive tried every kinda brand and these melt the fastest

an it is weird, alot of my friends who take xannies dont get into alot of trouble they're more chill like a good weed high they ain't all crazy and wanting to drink and continue to use nd im talking about the klonopins here they are no good and always get ya in trouble if you arent that new to them and dont know the effects.....they could really put you in the drunk tank and ya black out easier ive found out on pins than any other medication....includng opiates...fucking felony pills....thats why love my pies!

PiLL CLiNToN
07-16-2011, 08:19 AM
Benzos can readily be injected but most people find the effects overwhelming. Virtually all benzos have very, very poor water-solubility but all are readily soluble in propylene glycol which is, suspiciously to me, sold on the net in small bottles. Medical injectable benzos are often in propylene glycol...

I had a buddy all over me he was into ivin... Temazepams, imo they were horrible switched so quick......so hes over and told him to fuck off he almost was in tears begging, finally tho. out of nowhere the 7.5vico'fens came out and i smiled....it was happy campin for him and me.

PiLL CLiNToN
07-16-2011, 08:24 AM
Oops! Got alittle twisted up there....

blame to the pies.....they work very well with codeine and acouple dillys....mmmm