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poppypyro
04-19-2006, 08:45 PM
Hi I'm 20 and have been using mostly oxycontin but also morphine and any other opiates I can get my hands on since I was 16. After ruining me financially I tried quitting, got 0.3 mg clonidine, would stay clean a couple of months and do it over. Well now I've been clean about 7 months and still don't feel right, probably the hepatitis c.
So what are the rules about getting on methadone or buprenorphine?
Do you have to have hardcore track marks or be older?
What should I say to a doctor to get prescribed?

Canis aureus
04-20-2006, 12:53 PM
I don't know,

depends where you live; I'm going in induction tomorrow morning... have been without bupe 35 hours now and it's not nice...

I have been using 20 years, not hardcore all the time but there has been those moments... using just all the time.... It should depend on your addiction; if you are hopelessly addicted, yes; if you aren't, no.

It's not just for having some fun...

candy
04-20-2006, 02:30 PM
poppypro

Why do you want to go on Methadone after being clean for 7 months. It may be your Hep C getting you down or maybe depression. What is it that your experiencing? Many who do go off opiates complain of a general lack of motivation and feeling blue. Have you considered maybe antidepressants instead of Methadone.

While Methadone is great for someone who is currently using Heroin or other opiates and is looking to stop those, it really isn't a good choice for someone already clean off of opiates. Not to mention that I doubt any clinic in the U.S. or elsewhere is going to put you on Methadone.

I believe that you need to be currently using opiates to be on Methadone. It would be difficult to lie as they usually do a urine test for opiates, including methadone.

Are you getting treatment for your Hep C? I would look at other options to treat whatever your going through. If it is physical, then seeing your doc would be a good start and if your going through some emotional changes, then see your doc as well and discuss some type of treatment; antidepressants may be a good start as well.

Our bodies go through some physical/emotional changes after we stop using opiates and I think most would agree depression and lack of motivation is a big one.

For myself, boredom was an issue and it usually took me back to using.

Just some suggestions. I would encourage you to see a doc or your doc about the Hep C if you have not done so already.

Be well

superman
04-21-2006, 04:15 AM
good questions that i'd also like to know. if it was as easy as asking my doc to give me methadone tablets so i can forget about slamming oxy, i would do it. but somehow i suspect it's going to be a much bigger pain in the ass than it should be

EDIT: Words of wisdom from candy. poppypyro, in the last2 months i have had opiates on only 2 occasions;3 days on morphine about a month ago, and 2 days on oxy yesterday and today. these 5 days are the only days int he last 2 months that i have had any motivation to do anything. except for a few days when i was taking 500mg 2x daily of gabapentin. complete alleviation of depressive symptoms. yesterday i got 27 grams so now i'll see if this amazing effect is sustainable at a reasonable dosage.

anyways my point is that there are drugs out there that will make you feel normal/happy/energetic without putting a monkey on your back. personally i hate SSRIs. however the noradrenaline reuptake inhibitor modafinil was profoundly effective in relieveing depression. and as an added bonus it was often as stimulating as dextroamphetamine. during my first visit to a new doctor i asked for modafinil and said i was depressed and that modafinil's parent compound, adrafinil had worked in the past. he had no problems writing me a script for a 9 month supply.

devilsdrug
04-21-2006, 07:54 AM
dude stay off that shit for as long as possible your way tooo young to take that step in my opinion, for most of and more reasons than listed above

poppypyro
04-21-2006, 09:20 AM
I kinda left out the part about recently borrowing some hydros, and percocets from the house I've been working at and then paying a visit to the oxyman a few times. Made me remember how much I love opiates, it was amazing to be feeling under the weather for what feels like eternity then in a matter of seconds to feel like I'm God.
Everyone talks about how much happier they are when they quit opiates that they hated the dependance, well the dependance never really bothered me, just the fact that it was hard to keep up a supply, I was a very happy person the entire time I was using.
I'm treating the hep c with max. milk thistle, colloidal silver and l-tyrosine for energy and 5-htp for depression.

I never want to go back to buying shit off the street, but if I can grow my own poppies, get prescribed an opiate, or make my own via chemistry than hell yeah!

Zonker
04-21-2006, 09:49 AM
I kinda left out the part about recently borrowing some hydros, and percocets from the house I've been working at and then paying a visit to the oxyman a few times. Made me remember how much I love opiates, it was amazing to be feeling under the weather for what feels like eternity then in a matter of seconds to feel like I'm God.
Everyone talks about how much happier they are when they quit opiates that they hated the dependance, well the dependance never really bothered me, just the fact that it was hard to keep up a supply, I was a very happy person the entire time I was using.
I'm treating the hep c with max. milk thistle, colloidal silver and l-tyrosine for energy and 5-htp for depression.
I never want to go back to buying shit off the street, but if I can grow my own poppies, get prescribed an opiate, or make my own via chemistry than hell yeah!
To the best of my knowlege, they give the methadone and bupes for Physical addiction; this sounds more like psychological addiction. Tried alcohol and benzo's? I know that when I crave one drug, I can usually 'get by' with another for a day. (Or would that wreak havoc on a Hep liver? beats me.)
Unfortunatly, I think that this leads to.. wanting to do everything at once. Then you end up with the "I like to take a kolonopin and drink before I speedball, and then smoke my pot" IMO, this ends up meaning my habit becomes too expensive, and I never feel like I've quite had enough, even if I'm puking in the sink with a needle in my hand.

Boy, does writing that make me crave a nice, thick speedball.....;)