DMT experience

[antigonemuse]

it has been about ten years since I have used DMT. I have a friend who knows a fella who makes it. She brought me over some, just enough for a nice roll.

this drug amazes me. how intense the trip is. It is like 20 minutes of complete surrealism. i was sitting down, i knew i was sitting, but i had no idea where my legs were past my knees. i felt like i was levitating from my torso up... detached from the rest of my body. i couldnt talk, or move much more then my head. i just floated above my chair, looking for my legs below me. i had no dimension to my vision. it was all flat like a picture - in 2d, no prespective.

the dmt goes right into a peak, that lasts the whole trip, then you comme right down all at once. its so wild. Im glade i was able to do it again when i was older, cause i was able to apperciate the experience from a ritualistic / mind inhancing point of view. much like when i use shrooms. when i was younger i treated it like another acid trip....

over the years i began to understand ,"turn off, tune in and drop out" bull shit leary fed his generation.... as quoted below

"“'Turn on' meant go within to activate your neural and genetic equipment. Become sensitive to the many and various levels of consciousness and the specific triggers that engage them. Drugs were one way to accomplish this end. 'Tune in' meant interact harmoniously with the world around you - externalize, materialize, express your new internal perspectives. Drop out suggested an elective, selective, graceful process of detachment from involuntary or unconscious commitments. 'Drop Out' meant self-reliance, a discovery of one's singularity, a commitment to mobility, choice, and change. Unhappily my explanations of this sequence of personal development were often misinterpreted to mean 'Get stoned and abandon all constructive activity "


anyhow... sooner or later we figure out too much of anything is bad


But I wanted to share my recent DMT experience. it is nice to enjoy these drugs in moderation. Im telling ya, dack in the day, my nervous system was all kinds of fuckered up from acid.

id like to hear some of your experiences with DMT, i know its hard to come by and very expensive.... but i know a few of ya have done it

[Hoss]

Thanks for sharing this Antigon, I have always wanted to try DMT and still plan on it someday, my main reason of not experiencing it thus far is a simple lack of availability to my knowledge within my geographical area.

Anyways, enough of my babble - glad you had a good experience, sounds awesome. I too experienced strange happenings after a heavy dosing LSD summer over 10 years ago, but that's a different story, hehe. Interesting times.

Do you know if it was 5-MeO-DMT or N/N-DMT? I know they are cousins as both are psychedelic tryptamines.

[rockbottom]

been looking fot DMT for decades----sounds like you had a good trip--happy trails;)

[smack man]

shit yea i've always wanted to try DMT. the only psychedelic i can get is acid from a friend of min, and of course i can go and pick some shrooms cause i live in florida, but i have been interested in trhing DMT ever since i read about it years ago. so how did you take it? i heard you can smoke it, is that the most popular? how much does that stuff go for anyway? i dont' really know much about the stuff so whatever info you can provide would be appreciated.

[antigonemuse]

all i know is that it was freshly processed from the bark of Virola calophylla, which would be 5-MeO-DMT.... i think...

[antigonemuse]

i have always been to scared to inject it... so i always smoke it.... i just do not trust home chemists to make something that im gonna throw in my veins (heroin excluded - fucked up huh)

[KoDeInaaaae]

n n dmt is supposed to give the most visuals since that is the one that is synthysised in ur brain when u dream in your pineal gland....joe roegan talks about it on youtube look it up very interesting

[timothy.s.c]

swim was able to pick up some DMT from a very reputable source and is having trouble breaking through. I am quite sure its the method that i am using. trying to smoke if out of a lightbulb because he has heard that you cannot put it too direct flame. He has a nice bong that he hasn't tried yet because of this flame thing. But, the lightbulb isnt working as well as he think it should and he thinks its because he cant get the crystal to vaporize quickly enough to take a solid hit or two. also, he thinks the lightbulb is too small to hold enough smoke to take a good hit.
what are u smoking it out of?
Any suggestions? other than "the Machine" which looks like too much work.

[30_Units]

of all the devices I've tried to smoke deemsters out of, a silver surfer vaporizer worked the best. Didn't ever burn the crystals, just basically pulled enough hot air past them for a phase change, keeps the vapor cool, and doesn't have that awful plasticy taste one can get when they burn, actually burn the dmt.

i love the stuff and couldn't right enough about it, suffice it to say, you guys need to get you some of it if you enjoy tripping.

For all of you desiring it-it's really easy to extract. If you can follow a kitchen recipe, you can have your very own, crystalline purity n,n-dmt. Just look up 'straight to base' extractions, with a freeze precipitation, and you'll get all the info you need

[Opiyum]

n n dmt is supposed to give the most visuals since that is the one that is synthysised in ur brain when u dream in your pineal gland....joe roegan talks about it on youtube look it up very interesting

I don't mean to call you out so don't take this personally because this kind of stuff is all over the web partially because of that moron Joe Rogan and I hate to see misinformation on the web. Some kid in rehab was regurgitating this stuff too and I had to stop him.
All this stuff is purely theory. None of it has been proven but just like other things, when it comes to drugs and making them look good, people just run with it without really knowing.

The book that all of this comes from is from Stassman's DMT The spirit molecule. They don't even know that the Pineal gland produces it nor do they know if it has anything to do with dreams or death or spiritual experiences or anything else.
What they do know is that the gland forms at 49 days at roughly the same time that sex is determined and they know that it contains the precursors needed to produce dmt. They also have isolated DMT from human blood (in the 30's or so) and that it can be found in the brainn naturally and in the lungs. To what purpose they don't know.
They don't even know why it would be produced and excreted at death. Some people automatically say it has to do with people seeing angels and the white light as being some kind of ferry to another worlds and all that but if you really think more about it from a survival perspective it could happen to induce a state of fear making the person want to live because while recreationally DMT can be quite fun it can also been god damn scary. Throw a near death experience and someone who has hever tripped before on top of that and fear is bound to be their first instinct.


Lastly just think of how difficult it would be to scientifically test whether someone is tripping on endogenous DMT during a spritual experience or an slian abduction or during a near death experience. It's just something you can't recreate in a lab and too random to test in the real world. Also You can't take blood to test for level of DMT in the forearm. This does not give accurate results.

For all of you desiring it-it's really easy to extract. If you can follow a kitchen recipe, you can have your very own, crystalline purity n,n-dmt. Just look up 'straight to base' extractions, with a freeze precipitation, and you'll get all the info you needif you really ar4e interested just go to the DMT nexus forums. Erowid and some other places have horrible teks and bad information. THe nexus is like this place to opiates. If this place contained easy mass production teks for fentynal.

[Opiyum]

To everyone else the best method to smoke is from "the machine" but one can break through using a simple Meth or oil pipe. A butane lighter would be preferable and the absolute largest hit you can tolerate held in as long as possible is what you need to really get a good trip. To break through one needs to take a second hit immediately following the first. If you wait any length of time first of all you'll already be to wasted to take another and second you develop a tolerance to DMT so quickly that second and thrid hit will have no effect.
Any time when using dmt one should wait at least an hour before trying to trip again.
It is a good idea to "load" the pipe first. MEaninf take the desired amount of crystals and place them in teh pipe. Then using your lighrer very gently heat them until they melt. Allow it to sit for a little while (minute or two...hours even) then smoke it.
Dont start inhaling right as soon as you put heat to it or even when you start to see some smoke. Wait it it starts vaporing rapidly before you start to hit it and don't hit it hard. Inhale slowly and smoothly. And don't ever smoke it with something in which the flame will touch it. Your just going to burn it that way.

The DMT you had , ANTI, if properly extracted,, was actually a combination of N,N DMT, 5-OH DMT (similar to Bufotine from the colerado river toad)and 5- MeO DMT. Virola resin contains all three but mostly the MeO stuff.

This is all stuff I have learned over the last year from The DMT nexus and from Strassman's, Dr. Steven Szara and Mckenna's works.


There really are only two ways to take DMT freebase. Smoking it and eating with an MAOI like they do in South America. The only other way is to convert it into an ACid with HCl, Sulphuric or Fumaric acid and then in this form you can snort or inject it. The latter being the only one approved for use in humans by the FDA.
It's best to be kept in it's freebase form anyhow because it lasts much longer.

[poonwhalla]

man Opiy said about it all as far as the knowledge. I have had better luck and breakthrough doses smoking the shit outta normal glass spoon style pipes. More so then outta bulbs or meth pipes. Its just a matter of vaporizing the shit and not singing the shit outta it.

First time I tried DMT my buddy had the shit dosed out for me folded in a backwoods blunt leaf. He told me to burn it slow like I was smoking rock or somethin. OK I can do that but the first hit I hit slow and long. Got a good feeling outta it almost like peaking on acid or something. My friend was like OK now take another. So I got all headstrong and took a big ass hit with an inderect flame of cource but fucking big as if I had something to proove. Well before I partook he told me to just breath. After I took the hit I remember dropping the lighter and my boy took the bowl outta my hand.

From there I entered the DMT world, unlike any drug I have ever done. It was like a nod that Tripzilla gave me. I didn't see any fucking aliens or god or angels or any entities for that matter. I did see some cool paterns in my head and then nothing, nothing at all but black then I remembered that I had to breath. To me its like digital crack. I wanted another hit right away and my boy was like no lets chill for a while its not gunna work like that again right away but wait till I leave and you can do more. Well now yous got ma first story on this shit. It is crazy and lots of bullshit misinformation out ther but the Dmt nexus is a good place to learn about it and this is such an old thread I should just be posting my first experience on the nexus.

[robothanded]

Glad you had a good time in hyperspace.

There's nothing like a DMT breakthrough. Complete ego dissolution, feels so peaceful once you're there, like you're meant to be there. I've even found lower doses to be enjoyable lately.

been looking fot DMT for decades----sounds like you had a good trip--happy trails;)

Honestly, you most likely wont find it on the street. The extraction process is ridiculously easy, however.

[Oakleyskier]

i remember thinking an hour or more had gone by, only to find it had been like 12 minutes or something, all i remember is colors washing down my face, and everything was completely black, like my eyes were closed and colors were so intense there are no words for it. my eyes were not closed tho, who knows it was more intense than anything i could have imagined, but what do i know, i've only done shrooms, dmt, and ecstasy.

it seemed almost near impossible to freak out on (it seemed to me) my hippy buddy told me, "wherever you go, just enjoy it. be in the moment and live it" ahaha so i thought i was gonna be like floating on clouds over looking a mountain vista or something (which it wasn't)

[robothanded]

It seems hard to freak out on DMT. I've always had a pretty clear head while on it. No thought loops like I've had with mushrooms, or LSD at times. Even with all the shit that's going on during the fast come-up, I can sit there and analyze what's going on.

[imalgen]

Ive seen multiple freakouts from DMT.
People asking others in the room "how are you so calm while doing this?" as the person under the influence had thought we were alien scientists and that we were controlling the visions he was seeing. BUT, he was in a bad place going in. If you are 'ready' then there will be no problems. If there are issues, the issues will be displayed to you - and that can be frightening. Just remember to give in and let go completely and you will be very glad ya did.


And yeah, why even look on the street? Extraction is beyond easy and cheap. If one is scared of chemistry, then search for the FASA tek - which utilizes food grade chemicals ;) Nexus is the first and last place you will need to go for DMT information. For starters, sign up at the nexus and dl the Handbook - youll have teks and information to last for the rest of you and your childrens childrens lives. :D

Edit: Once you start looking, you will notice than even just looking out your window while having lunch you can spot a few DMT containing plants. Its quite surprising the availability of that chemical in the plant world :)

[robothanded]

STB Tek and pictorial posted at the shroomery(I think it was originally posted at nexus). Simple and decent yields. That's if you want to go the naptha/base water route.

I've heard using natural solvents don't yield as much product. Besides, the chemistry required to perform this tek(s), I hate to say it, a 2nd grader could do it. To each their own.

[MoreNowAgain]

I know this is an old thread, but I happened to read a great article in "Spirituality and Health" over the weekend that really renewed my interest in vision quests.
One of the artists featured in the article is Robert Venosa. You can see some of his work here:
http://beinart.org/artists/robert-venosa/

I haven't had the opportunity to take dmt or ayahuasca, but have been interested in doing shamanic training that utilyzes these substances.

One of the brilliant quotes from the article that I wrote down was, "The gift of entheogens is the difference between saying 'my religion teaches that God is love and we are all one' and saying 'I know that God is love are we are all one because I've esperienced it myself and confirm that it is true", Martin Ball
His website is http://www.martinball.net/
I've had experiences on E that gave me the precise feeling that he describes. These experiences (as well as some I've had in meditation) were profoundly important in the way I see the world.