Cockney Clucking....

[Raz]

Most of you guys call it cold turkey,jonesin or whatever,us cockneys call it CLUCKING......And right now i am ckucking my fuckin nuts off!!!
I got some juice in the fridge, but i want off these liquid handcuffs...And the juice i got left has gotta last me an the missus untill monday.And we both been on this shit way too long...And i aint had no chase for a fuckin week now and its 4.30 am here in windy rainy spain....

I just hope my methadone kick aint as bad as the last time i did it...Shit ,last time my missus wanted to lock me up in the fuckin basement, coz i was goin fuckin insane and my pupils were literally just fuckin big black holes...You couldnt see no eye color and i was experienceing clucking sooo baaadd that i was havin some kinda DT;s.....Sleeping for a couple a minutes and then wakin up not knowing where the fuck i was and confused man.....

That time i gave in and found gear in a strange town, foriegn country and couldnt speak ze lingo...But i found it and got well.....
This time i speak the lingo got a million connects, but got more fuckin willpower and a strong desire to get off dis fuckin shit.....So here i am at 4,30 am spanish time and typing these ramblings....

Any other mutherfucker in ze same boat?......Payin the piper....

[robojunkie]

How much are you comin' off? Didn't realize you was on the done raz, that sucks. I feel for ya man, that shit is the worst, not that ya need to hear that from me. I guess it don't really matter how much it seems to suck ass no matter what. I guess it shouldn't be too bad since ya can look to monday though right? Hang in there man, just think its gotta beat wandsworth right? Ya ever hearda ronnie biggs, didn't he escape from there?

[Hoss]

I hope the best for ya man, and I mean it - for both of ya. Been there, know the MD CT road - sucks. However, any one of us can get through it, it is just obviously easier said than done. Hang in there man, and let us know how it is going. You are not alone.

[Raz]

How much are you comin' off? Didn't realize you was on the done raz, that sucks. I feel for ya man, that shit is the worst, not that ya need to hear that from me. I guess it don't really matter how much it seems to suck ass no matter what. I guess it shouldn't be too bad since ya can look to monday though right? Hang in there man, just think its gotta beat wandsworth right? Ya ever hearda ronnie biggs, didn't he escape from there?


Yeah ol ronnie biggs was one of the great train robbers who escaped from there and went on the run...

I knew a few of the train robbers, google charlie wilson, great train robber and you'll read about a good man..Also Bruce reynolds who was the brains behind it all.....Sadly some cunt danny roff shot charlie dead over here, but some other swims got revenge on that fucker roff and he got his. straight to the head....charlie was well liked and respected.....

Also google Freddy Foreman, my wifes cousin is married to his eldest son....And guy ritchie,madonna just bought their pub in London.....I could go on and on bro's...Anything ya wanna know about real london just give me a shout and ask away....

Oh yeah me and he missus use about 1,000 ml per week between us...I take more than her coz i am a greedy fucker and she;s stronger than me...I seen her cluck out a real bad methadone habit b4...she got clean in 10 fuckin days of hell...But the girls a soldier and strong,belive me....

[clinton]

youve gotten over one hump and now youre making headway with this.......
So your not cutting your dose down gradually? Just stopping when you run out? I ask you how many Mgs you take daily but I don't think we ever got that figured out...
hang in there, keep us up to date with your quitting,


Edit I wrote this before you posted your last message
1000mls , got it

[Raz]

youve gotten over one hump and now youre making headway with this.......
So your not cutting your dose down gradually? Just stopping when you run out? I ask you how many Mgs you take daily but I don't think we ever got that figured out...
hang in there, keep us up to date with your quitting,


Edit I wrote this before you posted your last message
1000mls , got it

We take about 1,000 miles between us...Me more than her, but this week i deliberately added more water than normal, i get methadone in super concentrated form....So iam suffering, but not in full blown cold turkey......Getting some sleep, not a lot and the fizzy washing machine stomach.....So i am cutting down slowly, i cant suffer too much coz i gotta function, school run an all that shit....But trust me ,i am suffering....And wondering how long i am gonna suffer for???

[jonny-5]

yo raz, i was tryna kick this week, but it ended up not happening...but i will be trying again soon. hang in there man i know you can do it. stay strong brotha.

[Duckfeet]

Hang in there, Raz: I'm not out of the woods my own damn self, but just wanted to wish you luck...methadone can be got thru, it just takes a bit of time: I'm pushing into day 3, and w/methadone, no matter *how* low you get before jumping, that shit just seems to want to kick a little bit, and throw some chills and shit our way: but fuck that: you have a lot to live for, and it gets better...I'm not giving up, and it's no worse than I thought it would be: old time junkies know: heroin is worse, methadone takes longer...

[rockbottom]

i wish u good luck on a bad trip---ur strong hang tough

[blutuesday]

Good luck. You arent alone.

[Duckfeet]

Don't got t.v., but get dvd's: just saw "Bank Job" last nite, and thought of you Raz...especially when they were shooting at that lowlife hero, and he pulled a brick out of the wall and beat the fuck out of the toff...very cool....and the bad guys *win* one for a change, rather than the moralistic "crime doesn't pay" bullshit...sometimes it *does* pay, or the Kennedys and Bushs of this world wouldn't have so much money...they only want *poor* people to get religion and avoid crime...haha

[nick]

1.Raz amigo,I hope your pain passes quickly and jesus bro,we're getting old,the kids all call wd "doing their rattle," now days.

DF bro,re the Bush's and kennedys of this world.It's the old golden rule....he who has the gold makes the rules.

[george123]

Clucking huh....in California (maybe elsewhere in the us too), clucking is when yer fiending for crack and keep looking at the ground for lil bits of it like a chicken does for feed...cluck cluck'

[blutuesday]

Clucking huh....in California (maybe elsewhere in the us too), clucking is when yer fiending for crack and keep looking at the ground for lil bits of it like a chicken does for feed...cluck cluck'


HAHAHAHA. I fell out when I read that shit. That is what it here too.(Hence the term "Clucker." But that is funny as fuck that you said that.

[Pandora]

HAHAHAHA. I fell out when I read that shit. That is what it here too.(Hence the term "Clucker." But that is funny as fuck that you said that.

I've never heard that before, but that's fucking hilarious! Here we just call it carpet surfing. Haha.

Raz, I wish you the best of luck! I have my last pill sitting in front of me presently about to go to the dome, and after that it is going to be hell, so you're not alone. Stay strong, man.

[clinton]

Carpet surfing? Where I'm from that means something completely different.....

[Raz]

Thanks for the heads up peeps...I got the ol in laws over, they have a place here too, and i didnt really wannna be suffering in front of them, sooo ol Raz went and saw gypsy grandma, spent €25 and got me an the missus well....

I'm out the door inna minute school run an dat stuff and ol gypsy grandma ia gonna get an early morning call......Get myself sorted and then go and buy my methadone.....BUT what is gonna happen is i'm gonna treat this methadone with a lot more respect/reverence......No more just going to the fridge if i dont feel right......I'm gonna get off dis shit if it kills me!!......Ha ha...Lets hope it dont huh.....Fuckin cluckin i hate it, especially when €25 sorts you right out.....:rolleyes:

[Seedy]

^^Man good luck. Crazy situation you're in - like you've got it to easy, which is the problem. Hard, impossible even to find a comprimise, like making the habit work for you instead of working for the habit. I bet heaps of us dream to be in your shoes but in reality I know it's not that easy. Can't have your cake and eat the fucker too.

[jonny-5]

raz man whats up with the sattelite thing? u ever get that biz runnin?

[george123]

Carpet surfing? Where I'm from that means something completely different.....

surfing or munching?

[Seedy]

^^ aah tharsv whar i was thinking about!

[Duckfeet]

I had to do that, Raz, as you know: just get on a good stable dose of methadone, get life in some kind of order--like, get out of 'junky' mode, and more into regular guy...if I can, *anybody* can... make sure everything else is o.k., then slowly detox all the way down to zero--or close--and then u don't hardly notice the transition as much...best wishes, tho, whatever u do...

Main problem w/methadone, IMO, is that when we first get on it, and get "well", we do get kind of a really nice lift, but when that lift starts to fade--if yer like me--that's when we make the 1st error, which is to start going *up* in dose, trying to get that "buzz" again...and it never happened, for me, but I damn sure had a lot further ways to go, when I finally started my taper...for me, no matter how strung out I am, 50mg is about best, w/80mg being tops...



Thanks for the heads up peeps...I got the ol in laws over, they have a place here too, and i didnt really wannna be suffering in front of them, sooo ol Raz went and saw gypsy grandma, spent €25 and got me an the missus well....

I'm out the door inna minute school run an dat stuff and ol gypsy grandma ia gonna get an early morning call......Get myself sorted and then go and buy my methadone.....BUT what is gonna happen is i'm gonna treat this methadone with a lot more respect/reverence......No more just going to the fridge if i dont feel right......I'm gonna get off dis shit if it kills me!!......Ha ha...Lets hope it dont huh.....Fuckin cluckin i hate it, especially when €25 sorts you right out.....:rolleyes:

[southernbelle]

Thanks for the heads up peeps...I got the ol in laws over, they have a place here too, and i didnt really wannna be suffering in front of them, sooo ol Raz went and saw gypsy grandma, spent €25 and got me an the missus well....

I'm out the door inna minute school run an dat stuff and ol gypsy grandma ia gonna get an early morning call......Get myself sorted and then go and buy my methadone.....BUT what is gonna happen is i'm gonna treat this methadone with a lot more respect/reverence......No more just going to the fridge if i dont feel right......I'm gonna get off dis shit if it kills me!!......Ha ha...Lets hope it dont huh.....Fuckin cluckin i hate it, especially when €25 sorts you right out.....:rolleyes:

Good luck with the in-laws Raz. Don't let 'em get you down.