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shaunclo
04-13-2006, 09:10 AM
So, anybody here have any suggestions as to whether this stuff is any good, I might be wrong but think it is hydromorphone?? anyone.........anyone.........bueller.........buel ler

jacky
04-13-2006, 09:20 AM
I think it is a compound with mixed agonist antagonist effects.

I dont think it is hydromorphone

antony
04-13-2006, 09:24 AM
NUBAIN (nalbuphine hydrochloride) is a synthetic opioid agonist-antagonist analgesic of the phenanthrene series. It is chemically related to both the widely used opioid antagonist, naloxone, and the potent opioid analgesic, oxymorphone.


sounds like fun tho...key words in the quote: POTENT, OPIOID, OXYMORPHONE

oc80tn
04-13-2006, 12:07 PM
From what I know about Nubain, it is a synthetic opioid agonist/antagonist, but I am pretty sure it is not a scheduled narcotic under the CSA. If it is, I don't think it would be any higher than a C-IV. On a few occasions, an ER doctor has given me IM injection of this for migraines and back pain. If you are simply looking for pain relief, this medicine works pretty well. On the other hand, if you are looking for a high, don't bother with Nubain. The most this stuff will do is make you a little dizzy and make you drowsy. The only enjoyment I got out of it was deliverance from pain.
Since it is a partial antagonist, emergency room physicians like to give ambulatory patients this drug when they present with moderate pain. You'd get sick from the antagonistic effects before you could achieve any type of significant high. Additionally, when you get a shot of Nubain, they usually give you an additional shot of something like Phenergan or Vistaril for any potential nausea and to potentiate the Nubain. I am pretty sure this stuff is only available by injection and not by a pill or syrup.
IMO, Nubain and another similar drug, Stadol, are great medications for flare-ups of chronic pain or
short-term acute pain, but they aren't going to make you high like oxycodone or hydrocodone.

Dr.Poop
04-13-2006, 03:07 PM
Yeah, what he said ^^^. It's not worth it.

superman
04-13-2006, 08:48 PM
pretty much everything oc80tn thinks is right is right IIRC. this stuff used to be popular among body builders for some reason of which i don't remember. only works when injected. if you're an addict, expect it to give you instant withdrawals.

Zoop
04-14-2006, 01:46 AM
Quote: (from oc80tn)

From what I know about Nubain, it is a synthetic opioid agonist/antagonist, but I am pretty sure it is not a scheduled narcotic under the CSA. If it is, I don't think it would be any higher than a C-IV. On a few occasions, an ER doctor has given me IM injection of this for migraines and back pain. If you are simply looking for pain relief, this medicine works pretty well. On the other hand, if you are looking for a high, don't bother with Nubain. The most this stuff will do is make you a little dizzy and make you drowsy. The only enjoyment I got out of it was deliverance from pain.
Since it is a partial antagonist, emergency room physicians like to give ambulatory patients this drug when they present with moderate pain. You'd get sick from the antagonistic effects before you could achieve any type of significant high. Additionally, when you get a shot of Nubain, they usually give you an additional shot of something like Phenergan or Vistaril for any potential nausea and to potentiate the Nubain. I am pretty sure this stuff is only available by injection and not by a pill or syrup.
IMO, Nubain and another similar drug, Stadol, are great medications for flare-ups of chronic pain or
short-term acute pain, but they aren't going to make you high like oxycodone or hydrocodone.16 Hours Ago 11:24 AM

who are you so wise in the ways of science? Everything ma main man done sed is right on. If you got a habit, don't take none of this stuff you'll be SORRY (instant w/d).

It's actually very very popular in labor and delivery (you know, birthin' babies and stuff) for some reason. I shot some a couple of times, when I did a brief stint working in a hospital pharmacy, and it don't do much, just a slight opiate feeling was all I got. One observation I will share, that maybe some people will find interesting, is that if you mix nalbuphine injection solution in a (large) syringe with ketamine injection (this was "ketalar" brand by Parke-Davis), it forms an insoluble precipitate which will clog up the needle. I tried to do a "cocktail" once of ketamine and nalbuphine, but it wouldn't come out da needle, I had to pull all the shit out and start over.

Dr.Poop
04-14-2006, 09:10 AM
The reason it's popular in childbirth is because it has much different effects on women than on men, for some odd reason. Men reported withdrawal-like symptoms at low doses, and not a single woman did, only pain relief.

oc80tn
04-14-2006, 01:03 PM
I got out the old PDR last night and did a little more investigating on Nubain. It is, indeed, not a controlled substance, so it does not come with the tight restrictions of other opioids, but it is still in the same class as them. It is chemically related to oxymorphone (Numorphan), but since it is an opioid agonist/antagonist, doses above 30 milligrams can cause withdrawal symptoms. This is especially true if you are taking other narcotics like Oxy, Hydro, Morphine, etc. So it's going to be similar to taking a dose of naloxone if you take Nubain and another opioid at the same time, especially if you take a dose of Nubain over 30milligrams. And finally, it is available only by injection.
So there you go.

candy
04-14-2006, 03:12 PM
Hey Shaunclo,
I wouldn't take it if your taking any other opiates. It does act as an antagonist. It is also called nalbuphine hydrochloride.

It is used for moderate to severe pain and is sometimes used as an adjunct to balanced anesthesia.

Looks like you got some great info on it already.

exitwound
04-14-2006, 07:03 PM
During childbirth my wife took one injection of Nubain into her IV and said aside from a little wooziness, she felt no pain relief. Her labor was so fast they never got around to offering her a second injection, which may have worked.

superman
04-20-2006, 12:23 AM
hey zoop do you IV or IM the ketamine? i always thought that when IVing a 'hole' dose it would put ya under before you could pull the rig and relax. but a friend told me a while back that he knows people that IV it. anyways, ketamine stole my heart and mind for about a year and I would love to hear from someone who can vouch for the safety of IV ket. i think K is about the only thing that can send me on a crazy vacation to the scariest fucking place in the multiverse for an eternity, only to return me to this bland dimension feeling as if i have just lived for a billion lifetimes.

ketamine the seductress...

ValiumSoup
04-23-2006, 09:05 PM
hey zoop do you IV or IM the ketamine? i always thought that when IVing a 'hole' dose it would put ya under before you could pull the rig and relax. but a friend told me a while back that he knows people that IV it. anyways, ketamine stole my heart and mind for about a year and I would love to hear from someone who can vouch for the safety of IV ket. i think K is about the only thing that can send me on a crazy vacation to the scariest fucking place in the multiverse for an eternity, only to return me to this bland dimension feeling as if i have just lived for a billion lifetimes.

ketamine the seductress...

Its good, as long as you make sure you get the 20mg 1 ml version, use a 3cc 25g and mainline it, then open another amp and IM half or whole thing...Warm and nice.

You have any to sell? I am moving in 5 days and I am out.

Caution, If you are are on any other opiates at them time, the antagonist will toss you right in instant WD's.

Also once you score your Nubain Buzz its a once trick pony, the antagonist keeps you from keeping the buzz going you have to let it wear off, its a short half life forget off head, then start over other wise yer wasting it.

Hope this Helped.

-VS

Surplusjack
04-24-2006, 12:57 PM
Nubain feels like liquid Vicodin(Hydrocodone) just not as strong. If you have a big tolerance get something else.......Unless you are sick! then a 20mg I/V will be,like a handfull of vikes.

P.S. You will not go into W/D if you have already taken another opiate. (personal experiance)

reddragon3668
04-24-2006, 03:52 PM
It's actually very very popular in labor and delivery (you know, birthin' babies and stuff) for some reason.
Yeah, the only time I have run accross it is when my former wife had our son. They gave her Nubaine several times during labor and several times after, if I recall. She claimed that it made her sick to her stomach and also thought it was too strong. Of course, this is coming from a woman who gets high on Tylenol... :rolleyes:

candy
04-25-2006, 10:22 AM
My Mom is the same way...Gets sleepy from Ibuprofen. Doc gave her Nubain and she was out for a whole day after taking 2 six hours apart. She was so loopy, she couldn't walk without swaying form side to side.

It's been a long, long time since I felt anything similiar!

Curio
04-25-2006, 11:00 AM
I was on prescription OCs and the Nubain put me into w/d pretty quickly....

used up a lot of my pills trying to pull outta the tailspin that night...

Nubain seemed like a good idea at the time...course everything SEEMS like a good idea AT THE TIME,
or we would never do stupid shit...ya know?

ValiumSoup
04-26-2006, 02:52 PM
I was on prescription OCs and the Nubain put me into w/d pretty quickly....

used up a lot of my pills trying to pull outta the tailspin that night...

Nubain seemed like a good idea at the time...course everything SEEMS like a good idea AT THE TIME,
or we would never do stupid shit...ya know?

What kind of dose CC wise are you guys talking about 1 CC? 3CC?

Curious, I think if on opiates its effects little to non, and yes if you have opiates in your system the antagonist in Nubain can and will bring on near Instand WD's with some opiates...

-VS

candy
04-26-2006, 02:59 PM
My Mom is the same way...Gets sleepy from Ibuprofen. Doc gave her Nubain and she was out for a whole day after taking 2 six hours apart. She was so loopy, she couldn't walk without swaying form side to side.

It's been a long, long time since I felt anything similiar!


I was actually thinking of something else...Even I screw up sometimes!