A&E Intervention In Depth: Prescription Addiction

[marshalldylan1]

Did anyone catch it? The rerun is coming on in about 10 minutes here on A&E. To anyone who has seen it how was it? Did you like it? Was it like the In Depth: Heroin one where it was kind of overly dramatic?

I'm about to watch it right now, but I'll comment on it when I'm done seeing, although I'm nodding off a lot(damn k-pins are awesome at potentiating)

Well, try and watch the show if you haven't, I'm sure it will be on youtube after it's aired.

[oxymoronluvr]

i thought it was great. i personally know someone that lives in tampa and he tries to combat rx addiction anyway he can. he does protests in front of quack doctors offices and everything. it mainly focused in florida the pinellas and tampa area on young people being addicted to opiates and other drugs. i thought it was good. the country needs to know whats up with the situation here in america.

[RobotJones]

i haven't seen that episode or special or whatever. but i have seen the regular show before, and i still have mixed feelings about interventions. i just don't know if an intervention is the best answer to certain situations. i think it's just as much about the family and friends as it is about the addict. most people aren't going to quit until they're ready, and having loved ones gang up on you creates more guilt and shame than anything else. and we all know that feelings of guilt and shame are often what drives us to get high in the first place. if family and friends are fed up with the way an addict negatively affects their lives, then maybe they should remove that person from their lives, rather than try to get that person to change into what they want him/her to be.

but on the other hand, i know it's hard to just get rid of someone who you love, and so trying to force them into getting clean seems to be the best way to keep them in your life. but is it the best way? i don't know.

what do you all think of interventions? are they kosher?

[alowishus]

i thought it was great. i personally know someone that lives in tampa and he tries to combat rx addiction anyway he can. he does protests in front of quack doctors offices and everything. it mainly focused in florida the pinellas and tampa area on young people being addicted to opiates and other drugs. i thought it was good. the country needs to know whats up with the situation here in america.


That was your friend in front of my office!!!Fucker I'll get you all, you hear me.....:D:D

HA HA got ya. I do know you are're talking about though, that guys got nuts, he should be a lot more careful about how he makes his way home. I'm sure there are lots of peepe that are making lots of $$$ and he's fucking w/ their income....can't be a very good daddy if he a dead dad. No sence being a martyr over somethinglike this aint saying he aint doing a good deed but, aw hell you know what I'm saying just tell him to be careful.

[limitless_euphoria]

Yeah, Florida is a great place to go if you're looking to be a deadbeat dad, hide from a criminal charge or score prescription narcotics under the guise of legitimate medicine. If people don't know by now that narcotics are addictive with all the sensationalizing in the media then what the hell are they out to lunch or something?

It's understood that legally it's a safer route to go through a doctor versus a street level dealer but the faker patients are really ruining it for those people who desperately need relief from crippling chronic pain. That's why I've really only gone to the hospital because I've been in withdrawal a couple of times trying to score but at this point I would never do that because I DO NOT want to jeopordize my ability to get pain medication if I truly needed it. That's just something to think about guys. I know you're going to do what you do anyway.

If you're a pillhead I guess Florida is the place to be. I think due to the large amount of elderly people who retire to there obviously there will be no shortage of pain patients it makes sense.

Oh well, the episode was alright. At least they didn't camp it up or overdramatize it like a lot of shows regarding prescription drug abuse do.

[alowishus]

I've seen the show a couple times, not the one your'all talking about though, and yeah it's a joke; "We're making a movie about drug abuse, would you mind if we followed you around for s couple days filming you get high, and all the stuff you do....?" "
Oh yeah please go right ahead, oh and thanks for the money you paid me up front for me part in the film. Now if you could give me a ride to XXXXXXXXX so I can get some H frommy mate XXXXXX, have I'll ask him if he wants to be in your film to...."



To day in a suburb of Dallas a A&E film crew and serval others were gunned down when a drug deal they were filmed went bad, details are still comingn in now..........

[gameface]

I thought this was a terrible episode of Intervention. Didnt offer any new info, no cool junky business, nothing to really hold my attention. The mom in the "Tim & Terri" portion was way out there tho. She is a nurse, that is supporting her sons OC habit financially, and logistically (drove him to score) but is trying to get the court to order him into rehab. Weird co-dependency situation. Maybe she was getting high too, and he was scoring for her but she didnt want to look like she was still using. She had recently quit six months ago. I dunno, just struck me as odd. Otherwise it was standard run of the mill "I hurt my back now Im addicted to the hydro's my doc scripted me. That son of a bitch tricked me into being an addict"

Nothing new, as the show is always kinda fakish, or done for the camera, but this one especially sucked.

[jab]

I agree, it pretty much sucked.. No new info, nothing to offer, just fluff.

[marshalldylan1]

Wow, so I pretty much nodded off hardcore during that episode and missed it all. I opened my eyes to see Jose Canseco. Gonna look and see if its on youtube.

[dotparker]

The mom Terri, was on Methadone. You are right though about the codependence. What a strange set up that is....dotparker

[bigNasty]

The mom Terri, was on Methadone. You are right though about the codependence. What a strange set up that is....dotparker
Yeah the dumb ass mom gave him his first oxy when he was 18 or so. She should've known he'd get addicted if she was already addicted. I think she WANTED him to get addicted so they could become closer/have something in common.

I liked the good family man part cause it shows everybody watching that it can happen to anybody

[Narkotikon]

I watched it last night on A&E. I liked it in that it talked about drugs, but it wasn't really well done, and it didn't provide anything new.

I was just about three or four people in the Tampa area.

The thing I did NOT like about was that stupid mother and her son. Her son said that she gave him like half of an OC and that's how he started using; the mother said that he stole them from her in the beginning, but yes she did give them to him later on. I mean, I kind of believed the kid, because why would he lie about that? Plus, the mother was a former addict, a nurse who had back-pain and got a script for OC legally, and I guess six months ago or so she got off of them and onto methadone at a clinic. Anyway, she used to give her son some of her pills when she had them, but since she's been on methadone, she's been financing his habit, by using her money and pawning stuff too. Plus, grannie is helping out. She said she's helping him by financing his OC habit so he won't go through w/d, and she wants to do that to help him because she knows what it's like. But, I think the reason she's doing that is because she feels guilty for giving him the pills in the first place. Then, she went on and on about how much it's costing her and her family, which I'm sure it is, but she was saying how she doesn't know of any other way, and that she wants the judge to court order him to rehab so it will be free. Okay, first of all, rehab isn't going to make a difference if he doesn't want to stop, and second of all, take him to the methadone clinic you're at. I'm sure it's a lot cheaper than spending all that money on the OC. She said she was just paying for his OC until 1.) the judge either ordered him to rehab, or 2.) she saved up enough money to send him. Well, how in the hell are you saving any money if you're saying that you're in debt up your ass for paying for his OC? I just thought that was kind of stupid. I mean, she's in a methadone clinic, send him there too. I would be a lot cheaper. I just thought that was kind of stupid.

The guy who stole the script pad, I felt sorry for him because he wasn't trafficking, he was just using for himself. But he only wrote for hydro and oxy. If I had had a script pad like that. I'd be getting better stuff than that.

The kid whose older brother died, and he was basically doing the same thing, I felt sorry for.

[oxymoronluvr]

That was your friend in front of my office!!!Fucker I'll get you all, you hear me.....:D:D

HA HA got ya. I do know you are're talking about though, that guys got nuts, he should be a lot more careful about how he makes his way home. I'm sure there are lots of peepe that are making lots of $$$ and he's fucking w/ their income....can't be a very good daddy if he a dead dad. No sence being a martyr over somethinglike this aint saying he aint doing a good deed but, aw hell you know what I'm saying just tell him to be careful.


lol you made me laugh. yea there are a few people who protest in front of the quacks office there. my friend has had doctor's lawyers threaten lawsuits on him. he does a radio show there not only on opiate addiction but general rx bullshit like how they push and push anti depressants and adhd meds. he is not just focused on opiate abuse. he is focused on all the realms of what the pharmacy industry is doing to America and how a 8 minute consolidation can justify a script of vyvanse to a 9 year old boy that has trouble focusing in class.

as far as this intervention it was not really an intervention. it was more like a look inside what Rx addiction is about. they mainly focused on opiates and over the counter meds like triple C's.

the guy i was talking about has big names behind him on everything he does. the protests in front of the quacks office where arranged by the people at oxyabusekills dot com, and another pharmacy abuse org.

i think the opiate situation should be more exposed. but thats just me. there are allot of people that cannot get their meds cause of the quack doctors in the areas that lack Rx monitoring that charge 400 bucks for anything you want. thats crap, there needs to be something done cause people have to jump through hoops to get medicated these days.

my friend had someone watch several quack offices and he said he has seen people walk out jumping up and down and showing their friends in the car cheering like they just won the lottery. also he says that the quacks are becoming a tourist attraction. people from all surrounding states(prob states with a monitoring thing) come there to get scripts. he watches healthy 20 year old people go in there and walk out with scripts, and thats sad when people with legitimate conditions can't even do that and they are not gonna use them to get high, they are going to use then to live pain free.

[earthenone]

I don't understand how the guys back got magickly better after he quit it showed him playing with the children and stuff, I guarentee if he had my back hed be in tears begging for something not running around playing with the kids. And real back injuries never get any better only worse. People like him cause people like me to get treated like second class citizens at PM clinics everywhere.

[Narkotikon]

I don't understand how the guys back got magickly better after he quit it showed him playing with the children and stuff, I guarentee if he had my back hed be in tears begging for something not running around playing with the kids. And real back injuries never get any better only worse. People like him cause people like me to get treated like second class citizens at PM clinics everywhere.

I didn't even think of that. You're right. He did say he was prescribed Norco or Vicodin originally for back pain, wasn't he? Then he somehow got into oxy. And you're right, it magically was all better. That's horrible and funny at the same time.

[oxymoronluvr]

maybe his back pain wasn't as bad as people think. people do fake. and sometimes when they come off opiates and reverse the opiate induced hypoglashia that can do wonders for the pain receptors and the pain just lessens.

[rockbottom]

sometimes i like the show--if its a cool junky---then i make bets--like hes not gonna make it--yeah she'll make it---i think the show is stacked and they only mostly show people who make it---or the prescreening of family gives them a good idea if a person will make it or not----they have a high success rate and i'm just suspiciuis........

[OxyContinuously]

i thought it was great. i personally know someone that lives in tampa and he tries to combat rx addiction anyway he can. he does protests in front of quack doctors offices and everything. it mainly focused in florida the pinellas and tampa area on young people being addicted to opiates and other drugs. i thought it was good. the country needs to know whats up with the situation here in america.

maybe he should get off the soapbox---be a little less selfish---and not fuck up things for everyone else; protesting in front of quack doctors? get real and come down off the high horse, hahaha:rolleyes:

[Larry]

maybe he should get off the soapbox---be a little less selfish---and not fuck up things for everyone else; protesting in front of quack doctors? get real and come down off the high horse, hahaha:rolleyes:

I agree 110% percent, Im sure your friend doesnt have anything medically wrong with him, I pitty him if he ever does and needs painkillers. Whats up with AE? Intervention, These Drug Specials, The Cleaner they are really trying to cash in on all this drug shit. I wish that show the cleaner would just go off the air already its horrible. That guy who protests in front of Docs office, No offense but it sounds like he needs to get a life

[Narkotikon]

maybe he should get off the soapbox---be a little less selfish---and not fuck up things for everyone else; protesting in front of quack doctors? get real and come down off the high horse, hahaha:rolleyes:

I sort of agree. I more often than not think people who are really gung ho about stuff like this have somehow been affected by it. Like, they grew up with a parent that was an addict, or one of their siblings is an addict, or something like that. So, rather than dealing with their own issues, they try to get revenge by protesting and becoming drug counselors and other things to persecute drug addicts. I mean, go to fucking therapy already.

I just don't like people like that. If YOU don't believe in prescription drugs or prescription abuse, then don't YOU do that. If YOU don't believe in abortion, then don't YOU have an abortion. If YOU don't like gay marriage, then don't YOU fucking have same sex relations and get married. Simple as that. In the end it's about control, and I hate control freaks.

[Larry]

I sort of agree. I more often than not think people who are really gung ho about stuff like this have somehow been affected by it. Like, they grew up with a parent that was an addict, or one of their siblings is an addict, or something like that. So, rather than dealing with their own issues, they try to get revenge by protesting and becoming drug counselors and other things to persecute drug addicts. I mean, go to fucking therapy already.

I just don't like people like that. If YOU don't believe in prescription drugs or prescription abuse, then don't YOU do that. If YOU don't believe in abortion, then don't YOU have an abortion. If YOU don't like gay marriage, then don't YOU fucking have same sex relations and get married. Simple as that. In the end it's about control, and I hate control freaks.

+1

[rockbottom]

i'd like to see him protesting at a dope spot--that would be really funny:)

[I-Nod]

maybe he should get off the soapbox---be a little less selfish---and not fuck up things for everyone else; protesting in front of quack doctors? get real and come down off the high horse, hahaha:rolleyes:

Yeah, I hate when someone thinks the rest of the world should learn from their personal mistake... lemme make my own mistakes and be the judge if it was a mistake or not. I'm sure he used those quacks at one time... so why fuck it up for others? There's no excuse for douche-baggery. :cool:

[Consumed.]

Does anyone know if they pay the junky on the show? If they do, do they give them any money during the show so the person can get wrecked and they can film it? It seems as though a lot of them wouldnt have the money to keep up their habits. Or else they have to film an awful lot of days and take the few where they scored enough to make a good clip.

On a side note: did anyone see Dr fuckin Drew and his tag team last night? I sat through it even though it was seriously like half commercials, I wont be able to watch it again just for that fact. The only one of them that truly had a serious problem was G N Rs ex-drummer. He was using his neck to shoot dope and you could just tell he was burned the fuck out! Then there was a chick with a supposed hard opiate addiction and was like this is suboxone its like heroin you dont want to fuck with it. They had Rodney King on there and Gary Busey who wanted to be part of the counseling team. He was fuckin funny said he had 13 years clean but looked kinda blitz and was def manic as hell!

[Narkotikon]

I always wondered how they compensated the people too. I thought that maybe they chose each family / addict on who deserved it or needed it the most, then they shot the episode, and as payment, they would pay for the rehab, but I don't know if that's true. I just assumed it's the case, but the all the rehabs they use are like a network. They use the same ones over and over. I always assumed the show had some kind of deal worked out with the rehab centers, maybe like a discount or something.

But yeah, most people don't have a lot of money by the time they "need" interventions, so it is odd how they'd get enough dope or whatever to get real fucked up. That's why I always thought part of it was fake. I mean, some of it's got to be staged. Otherwise some of those people are just idiots. Like the guy who shot dope using toilet water. I mean, I wasn't so much shocked that he shot it using toilet water. I was shocked that he chose to use toilet water when there was a fucking sink not one foot away from him. I wondered if he either did that to look "bad" ass, or if the show's producers told him "hey, you know what would really be good, is if you shot your dop with the toilet water instead of the sink." I mean, come on, how low can you go.

Yeah, Dr. Drew annoys me too. He's so serious about it, but you know he's only doing it to increase his own image. Such a wannabe celebrity, like those doctors on Dr. 90210. I watched the first season of Celebrity Rehab, and I thought some of it was pretty funny, other parts not so much. I thought that one guy (don't remember his name, wait, it was Jeff or something) was pretty bad off, but the other ones were sort of bad off / sort of just plain stupid. I felt like it was their attempt at a last ditch effort to resurrect their careers. If they really wanted a show, they should mix the celebrities with real world / regular addicts, and compare the differences. I'm willing to bet most real addicts would be worse off than the "celebs."

[Larry]

I watched a little bit of Celebrity Rehab last night, pretty fuckin stupid if you ask me. If I had someone giving me advice about drugs, I would prefer they had first hand experience Dr. Drew goes by what he reads in books and shit. I remember last season, they had some girl (she was the young daughter on family matters) who was in rehab for smoking weed, I remember Dr. Drew making a huge deal about it and telling her if she didnt get clean she was gonna die and all this shit. Consumed, Yeah I saw that that clip last night with the model and her pill case with her adderal, dexedrine and all that other shit. She said she was using for 16 years straight but yeah she said "the subuxone was really hardcore shit pretty much identical to heroin, & Im sure Dr. Drew told her that was the case". I feel like Dr. Drew is exploiting the fuck out of the people he "treats" I mean how can those people expect to get clean with all those cameras and shit around. The people from last season, Hell I dont think any of them even got clean. Jeff Conaway (the guy from grease and taxi) I feel hes in really bad shape, I remember him saying before he got in there he blew through $1000 bucks worth of oxy and xanax in 1 night, When he got to rehab he had a seizure and was delusional so they took him to the ER and I remember DR. Drew telling the docs and nurses not to give him any benzo or opiate WHAT-SO-EVER because he was an addict, I think they should of tried to wean him off the meds instead of going cold turkey like that, as we all know its def not safe. Anyways sorry for the big rant I just hate Dr. Drew, If you could even call him a doctor

[Narkotikon]

Yeah, I pretty much agree about that opiate / benzo thing. I mean, I can understand not giving someone opiates when they're in opiate w/d, because it's not generallly life threatening. But, when a person is having seizures and stuff from it (opiate w/d) or because they're also addicted to benzos and going through benzo w/d, I do think it's medically necessary and responsible to ween them off using a benzo taper. I mean, seizures are really bad, and to have a doctor say no to benzos when a person is having a seizure right there is just stupid, drug addict or no drug addict.

[Consumed.]

'yeah I forgot about the guy from Grease, how did he fuck his back up that bad where he looks like an 80 yo hunchback? He def did have a bad habit with coke and opiates thats for sure and when you got a guy like that he's ALWAYS going to have the back excuse to fall back on. He made some sort of comment about when hes better hes going to make a comeback bigger and better than before. Yeah, right he could barely walk. These washed up actors and musicians will always feel sorry for themselves that they didnt keep up their careers and wallow in their sorrows. And the model, please... fuckin beautiful girl with a vicodin and uppers habit. Well I guess shell actually get some help. For me if Gary Busey wasnt on there i could drop but he is so wacked its insane. He cant be sober

[EleusisII]

maybe he should get off the soapbox---be a little less selfish---and not fuck up things for everyone else; protesting in front of quack doctors? get real and come down off the high horse, hahaha:rolleyes:

Yup... That protesting friend sounds like an utter douchebag. If there's an opio-god up there, one of these days, he'll get a beating with a pair of crutches...

Complaining about drugseekers messing it up for people in real pain is ridiculous. It's like complaining that because a kid goes to a private school, your neighbourhood school sucks..
It's not like there's a set, finite amount of opiates out there. The oxy's some quack writes for in Florida doesn't come out of the crippled hand of an 80 year ol grandma in Michigan.

And hey, if it's so hard to get treated for pain, and quacks are so plentiful, why not go see one, if you need narcotics?

Sorry for the rant... Blame it on the douche with the soapbox!

[EleusisII]

I'm willing to bet most real addicts would be worse off than the "celebs."

Damn right! And that's because of prohibition, and the insane prices that drug dealers can charge for their products.
If drugs weren't criminalized (or all addicts were millionaires!) you wouldn't see ruined lofes, and ol' junkies with no teeth left...

[bigNasty]

When he got to rehab he had a seizure and was delusional so they took him to the ER and I remember DR. Drew telling the docs and nurses not to give him any benzo or opiate WHAT-SO-EVER because he was an addict, I think they should of tried to wean him off the meds instead of going cold turkey like that, as we all know its def not safe. Anyways sorry for the big rant I just hate Dr. Drew, If you could even call him a doctor
I can almost guarantee you that the ER dr. gave jeff a benzo to stop the seizures. The REAL doctors and nurses probably didn't give a fuck what the douchebag with a camera crew following him around said. He doesn't work at that hospital or anything, he's just some guy with the things around his neck that you listen to folk's hearts with(forget the name) and a camera crew

[losangeleslifer]

A little of topic, but about Intervention.

Did anyone check out the chick who was huffing like 10-12 cans of computer duster a day?

Holy shit, that chick must have mega deathed her brain cells.

[marshalldylan1]

I can almost guarantee you that the ER dr. gave jeff a benzo to stop the seizures. The REAL doctors and nurses probably didn't give a fuck what the douchebag with a camera crew following him around said. He doesn't work at that hospital or anything, he's just some guy with the things around his neck that you listen to folk's hearts with(forget the name) and a camera crew


Yeah, I find it hilarious that he ALWAYS has a stethascope(sp) around his neck.

[bigNasty]

Yeah, I find it hilarious that he ALWAYS has a stethascope(sp) around his neck.
There we go, a stethoscope!! He looks like an idiot always wearing that thing. I've never seen a dr. IRL wearing one and i've been in many ER's(not trying to score, serious medical shit)

[runormal]

A little of topic, but about Intervention.

Did anyone check out the chick who was huffing like 10-12 cans of computer duster a day?

Holy shit, that chick must have mega deathed her brain cells.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufOFzKT5v1Q) here is a link to computer duster specialist alison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufOFzKT5v1Q) ... wait for 00:15 and 00:25 for a taste ... walking on sunshine...

[bigNasty]

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufOFzKT5v1Q)here is a link to computer duster specialist alison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufOFzKT5v1Q) ... wait for 00:15 and 00:25 for a taste ... walking on sunshine...
LMFAO she's a fucking idiot.

I also like 3:10 into it, she acts like she's going on a real drug run

[bigNasty]

I also thought it was funny on Celebrity Rehab where Tawny Kitaen says "I'd buy 18 grams of cocaine so i didn't have to drive around too much". You know her dealer loved the fact that he was selling her an 18 gram ounce for full price. I mean, how else do you buy 18 grams unless you think an ounce is 18 grams?

[Indy]

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufOFzKT5v1Q) here is a link to computer duster specialist alison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufOFzKT5v1Q) ... wait for 00:15 and 00:25 for a taste ... walking on sunshine...

When i heard her say "it's like walking on sunshine" or whatever i HONESTLY thought the video was a parody of intervention. Wow, that's just....i don't even know what to say.