jacky
10-20-2008, 01:28 PM
recently I recieved a package from Peru that I was not expecting.
no note was found inside, but I expected that it was a forwarded package from a contact in brazil that I do some shipping for.
inside was some copal incense, a very nice smelling Inka incense cone, which looks like bran cereal mixed with opium, what it really is, is a nice mellow smelling incense cone, or shaped more like a pillar, that has a vanilla, cereal, copal scent to it.
there was some small little andean dolls glued to a stick pin for a brooch or decorative fair....
but most of the package was filled with strange sticks, that are 4 inches long, with a little knob whittled at one end, and a smooth decrease in size toward the other end.
they are wrapped with corn or some type of similiar leaf, and tied with what looks like reed twine and twisted reed lanyards. each string has two such packages on it.
I pulled out the stick from its sheath, and noticed a clear, non stick gel looking laquer, with small bits of plant material in them.
I couldnt tell where the smell was coming from, but these things seemed like incense to me.....I slightly put my toungue tip to the clear material. but no taste.
luckily. I could have been in for a suprise.
my wife told me not to taste that stick.
when I emailed my contact in Brazil, he affirmed that it was from a contact of his, and that the package should have been sent along some where else.
the sticks were not incense.
the are Kambo sticks.
which are "medicinal" sticks that contain a mixure of glue, and the secretions of Phyllomedusa bicolor.
natives burn a very small pin prick on their skin, and let a little saliva mix with the glue on the stick. its swirled around, and the saliva/frog secretion is put on the burned flesh.
the result is a full frontal attack on ones nervous system.
potent opioid compounds like dermophin and similiar compounds or analogs create a gut wrenching, heart pounding rush, that will disable most people.
but soon this rush gives way to increased vigor, stimulation, keening of vision, sometimes euphoria, and relief from pain and other symptoms of different diseases/conditions.
the effect can lest noticeably as a glow for several days.
the secretion is potent when swallowed, but not nearly as when introduced IV by dermal absorption.
some groups in the Amazon use the secretion as a snuff with tobacco, orally with a type of herbal/vegatable soup, which is meant as a purgative till you are puking bile, and possibly other ways that havnt been reported yet.
dermorphin might not be the only vigoruosly active compound, some opiophiles have obtained pure isolated dermorphin and not experienced the gut wrenching inital ordeal...so perhaps some cardio active steroid or other type of similiar acting compound is at work here.
as well, it could be that the mixture of secreted compounds contains an enzyme inhibitor, as usually peptides are destroyed/disabled in the body quickly. scientists have created dermorphin analogs that last longer than the short acting peptides.
but that is just my conjecture.
I am a vegetarian.
and I dont know if I want to see kambo reaching a world market, but its interesting to know that across south america and now leeching out into the larger world kambo is being used mostly in a medicinal fashion.
compare it too bee stinging groups or other toxin ingesting subcultures.
(hell, compare it to shooting botulism in your face for mere cosmetic reasons)
some reports state the some frogs are killed after harvest.
but other reports state that groups (indigenous societys) revere the animal and after tying and wiping the skin of the frog and collecting secretion, they are let go.
the frogs are large, and there are some very powerful photos of natives collecting the large green strange shaped frogs secretions online.
I will leave the rest of the descriptions to you readers to research on your own.
I will be sending the Kambo sticks on to the intended owner.
but may ask to buy a couple for my natural medicines collection/voucher collection "library"
I am lucky I didnt get a rise in blood pressure from the taste test I did.
now my wife is looking at me like "I told you so!"
ha ha.
I hope the frogs are being harvested nicely and let go...but I bet if profit prevails that the skins are taken as well.
I dont know if the peptide companies that have been selling the isolates from synthetic production, or frog harvesting, but I would rather support the indigenous communitys production for trade than some chemical company.
plus, ingesting these compounds is/can be very dangerous. overdose is imminent when used carelessly.
the payoff for the junkie I think could be a sort of "cure"
peptides have proven to relieve withdrawl, but more like a replacement therapy....peptides could have other endocrine activity, so there could be other consequences on areas of pharmacology other than the opioid/opiate consideration.
no one to my knowledge has looked into kambo for drug withdrawl treatment, but it is being used by larger and larger populations for pain and disease treatment (traditional!!)
I think within the natural world, all living humans should have right to natural products except children without supervision of course or maybe the incarcerated, if a tribe wants to sell kambo to the larger world, and isnt destroying frog populations, I say they should have the right.
I am sure this will catch some attention with certian customs agencys, kambo sticks are already being marketed by a few ethnobotanical companies, so I am sure some reaction will ensue.
alltogether though, a very fascinating opiophillic subject.
no note was found inside, but I expected that it was a forwarded package from a contact in brazil that I do some shipping for.
inside was some copal incense, a very nice smelling Inka incense cone, which looks like bran cereal mixed with opium, what it really is, is a nice mellow smelling incense cone, or shaped more like a pillar, that has a vanilla, cereal, copal scent to it.
there was some small little andean dolls glued to a stick pin for a brooch or decorative fair....
but most of the package was filled with strange sticks, that are 4 inches long, with a little knob whittled at one end, and a smooth decrease in size toward the other end.
they are wrapped with corn or some type of similiar leaf, and tied with what looks like reed twine and twisted reed lanyards. each string has two such packages on it.
I pulled out the stick from its sheath, and noticed a clear, non stick gel looking laquer, with small bits of plant material in them.
I couldnt tell where the smell was coming from, but these things seemed like incense to me.....I slightly put my toungue tip to the clear material. but no taste.
luckily. I could have been in for a suprise.
my wife told me not to taste that stick.
when I emailed my contact in Brazil, he affirmed that it was from a contact of his, and that the package should have been sent along some where else.
the sticks were not incense.
the are Kambo sticks.
which are "medicinal" sticks that contain a mixure of glue, and the secretions of Phyllomedusa bicolor.
natives burn a very small pin prick on their skin, and let a little saliva mix with the glue on the stick. its swirled around, and the saliva/frog secretion is put on the burned flesh.
the result is a full frontal attack on ones nervous system.
potent opioid compounds like dermophin and similiar compounds or analogs create a gut wrenching, heart pounding rush, that will disable most people.
but soon this rush gives way to increased vigor, stimulation, keening of vision, sometimes euphoria, and relief from pain and other symptoms of different diseases/conditions.
the effect can lest noticeably as a glow for several days.
the secretion is potent when swallowed, but not nearly as when introduced IV by dermal absorption.
some groups in the Amazon use the secretion as a snuff with tobacco, orally with a type of herbal/vegatable soup, which is meant as a purgative till you are puking bile, and possibly other ways that havnt been reported yet.
dermorphin might not be the only vigoruosly active compound, some opiophiles have obtained pure isolated dermorphin and not experienced the gut wrenching inital ordeal...so perhaps some cardio active steroid or other type of similiar acting compound is at work here.
as well, it could be that the mixture of secreted compounds contains an enzyme inhibitor, as usually peptides are destroyed/disabled in the body quickly. scientists have created dermorphin analogs that last longer than the short acting peptides.
but that is just my conjecture.
I am a vegetarian.
and I dont know if I want to see kambo reaching a world market, but its interesting to know that across south america and now leeching out into the larger world kambo is being used mostly in a medicinal fashion.
compare it too bee stinging groups or other toxin ingesting subcultures.
(hell, compare it to shooting botulism in your face for mere cosmetic reasons)
some reports state the some frogs are killed after harvest.
but other reports state that groups (indigenous societys) revere the animal and after tying and wiping the skin of the frog and collecting secretion, they are let go.
the frogs are large, and there are some very powerful photos of natives collecting the large green strange shaped frogs secretions online.
I will leave the rest of the descriptions to you readers to research on your own.
I will be sending the Kambo sticks on to the intended owner.
but may ask to buy a couple for my natural medicines collection/voucher collection "library"
I am lucky I didnt get a rise in blood pressure from the taste test I did.
now my wife is looking at me like "I told you so!"
ha ha.
I hope the frogs are being harvested nicely and let go...but I bet if profit prevails that the skins are taken as well.
I dont know if the peptide companies that have been selling the isolates from synthetic production, or frog harvesting, but I would rather support the indigenous communitys production for trade than some chemical company.
plus, ingesting these compounds is/can be very dangerous. overdose is imminent when used carelessly.
the payoff for the junkie I think could be a sort of "cure"
peptides have proven to relieve withdrawl, but more like a replacement therapy....peptides could have other endocrine activity, so there could be other consequences on areas of pharmacology other than the opioid/opiate consideration.
no one to my knowledge has looked into kambo for drug withdrawl treatment, but it is being used by larger and larger populations for pain and disease treatment (traditional!!)
I think within the natural world, all living humans should have right to natural products except children without supervision of course or maybe the incarcerated, if a tribe wants to sell kambo to the larger world, and isnt destroying frog populations, I say they should have the right.
I am sure this will catch some attention with certian customs agencys, kambo sticks are already being marketed by a few ethnobotanical companies, so I am sure some reaction will ensue.
alltogether though, a very fascinating opiophillic subject.