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darkstar
10-19-2008, 05:44 PM
So today I bought heroin in chicago for the first time. I'm familiar with NYC dope and tar from Cali. Haven't used in quite some time and don't plan on starting a habit just wanted to have a little around. I went to the west side. Talked to this guy, got a number, and bought a jab (12 bags - it's like a bundle). NOt bad. He made me do some in front of him so I knew it was legit. When I got home I saw it was pink. I cooked up a small amount (no heat) and it was totally pink. It's not the strongest stuff ever, but not bad. I'm kinda weirded out by the fact that it's pink. Can anyone shed some light on this subject?

SeVeN
10-19-2008, 05:50 PM
benadryl maybe?

EleusisII
10-19-2008, 05:53 PM
Thye blood from the innocent afghani children, that are killed because your heroin-habit provides funding for Al Qaeda?

JonnyMohawk
10-19-2008, 05:58 PM
Thye blood from the innocent afghani children, that are killed because your heroin-habit provides funding for Al Qaeda?


Yep, just like how your pills are green from the money the big pharmaceutical corporations have raped from our pockets.

Narkotikon
10-19-2008, 05:58 PM
Just think of it like pink champagne. Full of bubbles, sparkle, and fun :-)

Seriously, I don't know why it's pink. Maybe the cut, or maybe the heroin-making process was contaminated somehow with something pink. It could be anything. At least it's real H. Whenever I've gotten odd looking stuff, it was bunk. At least it's not bunk H.

darkstar
10-19-2008, 06:10 PM
Thye blood from the innocent afghani children, that are killed because your heroin-habit provides funding for Al Qaeda?

Oh, why didn't I think of that? :)

Yep, just like how your pills are green from the money the big pharmaceutical corporations have raped from our pockets.:rolleyes:

Yeah Nark, I would've thought it was bunk if I hadn't tried first, looked later.

bodymore
10-19-2008, 06:16 PM
It is the cut. Dormin

dieselbaby
10-19-2008, 06:22 PM
Well I am reporting back with my adventures from the west side of Chicago, which is truly "the wild wild west" as one would say. I'm pretty sure that one of the "jabs" (called bundles where I'm from) that I have is either something inert or heroin that was properly cut with fentanyl. I remember people mentioning that fentanyl/heroin admixtures cook up with a pinkish/purple hue. This wasn't bits of dormin/sleepinol pills from cut in the dope. The dope is a very fine white powder, with no real strong particular dope smell, and when water is added and it's cooked up the cotton left behind is seriously pinkish/lavender in color. There is also a really really miniscule amount (like a few tiny specks) of some same colored substance on the bottom of the spoon that certainly weren't present in the dope before it was cooked, and other than it cooked up clean and was very good. I also got some stuff that came in half gram quantity, supposed raw which was also very good and especially nice to mix with the previously described stuff.

Seems to be a Chicago thing. The same thing happened to me, it had a nice rush but no legs really - especially compared with the tar that I've been getting from Columbus OH (...and that shit has legs like a fucking Brazilian supermodel).

darkstar
10-19-2008, 06:24 PM
It is the cut. Dormin

dormin? An antihistamine right, like benedryl. Well maybe won't scratch so much then.

clinton
10-19-2008, 09:05 PM
what are some of the more dangerous things that dope is cut with?
has anyone personally ran into dope cut with anything harmful?

JonnyMohawk
10-19-2008, 09:07 PM
what are some of the more dangerous things that dope is cut with?
has anyone personally ran into dope cut with anything harmful?

I think its rare because the whole idea of selling dope is to have repeat customers... dead ones don't really buy much these days.

clinton
10-19-2008, 09:17 PM
i would hope you are correct
what are the more things dope is cut with?
do dealers cut only to add volume or do some cut their heroin with known potentiators?

SynthMorph
10-19-2008, 09:23 PM
I thought pink dope means there's some fentanyl in there.

Narkotikon
10-19-2008, 09:24 PM
I think benadryl is commonly used. That would definitely potentiate it. In fact, there's something called Cheese that a lot of high school kids are using. I think it's basically mostly benadryl and a little bit of H.

Usually I thought they try to use innocuous things, like powdered milk and stuff. I don't think they'd want to use anything too harmful, because then they wouldn't get repeat business.

The only time I can see them giving you something lethal is either them not knowing / by accident, or them purposefully giving you a hot shot because you screwed them over somehow.

bodymore
10-19-2008, 09:37 PM
Now that I think about it I have heard some where if the dope turns purple when it touches the water it is cut with fent. I do not know how true this is tho since I sniff

dieselbaby
10-19-2008, 09:56 PM
Like I said, I'm pretty certain that it's fentanyl. Wouldn't surprise me as it's pretty common on the west side in Chicago. It's even possible that we got the dope from the same spot by some coincidence. I'm familiar with fentanyl and the high was very similar to pharmaceutical fentanyl that I have experience with.

By the way, dope is cut with tons of different stuff. The stuff that I had was properly cut with fentanyl. Sometimes idiots will take inert powder (cut) and then put fentanyl in it. This can be very dangerous because fentanyl is measured in micrograms, a tiny ass amount smaller than a pinhead is literally the difference between life and death, hence the reason you hear about people dropping like flies whenever there's a batch of laced shit going around. You also can get it mixed up, with people selling actual heroin (usually weak shit) that's cut with a small amount of fentanyl (usually done properly if done this way) that will make it seem like it's good dope to people who don't know the difference or don't care.

I know that I've seen heroin being cut before and put into stamp bags, the people I know that did it used mannitol, quinine, thiamine and inositol. Other common cuts are lactose, vitamins, benadryl/anti-histamines and caffeine. It's usually just inert, especially people who are running a legit spot or legit dealers because they want the return business so it's not going to be too harmful (in relative terms). Of course on the occasion you hear about dope cut with Xanax, cocaine (I've had this before, yuck) or horse tranquilizers but these are isolated incidents and should be viewed as such. The cheese that you're talking about, Narkotikon, is prevalent in the south mostly (started out as a purely Dallas, TX phenomenon). It consists of tar that is mixed with water and cut up tylenol PM to turn it into a beige colored powder. It was a way of marketing heroin to kids in middle and high school and is disgusting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_heroin - Cheese samples contained only between 2-8% heroin...nasty, imagine shooting that shit :speechles

JonnyMohawk
10-19-2008, 10:23 PM
Im not sure what about it being pink leads you to believe its fent.


Do you have any sources other then personal experience?

Im not trying to be an ass but it seems like people are just guessing and then adding "Im pretty sure" or "Im almost certain".


I still <3 you guys.

jonny-5
10-19-2008, 11:22 PM
Im not sure what about it being pink leads you to believe its fent.


Do you have any sources other then personal experience?

Im not trying to be an ass but it seems like people are just guessing and then adding "Im pretty sure" or "Im almost certain".


I still <3 you guys.

i remember reading in the DEA microgram bulletin thing about pinkish or purpleish dope being cut with fent and causing all kinds of ods.



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back in the day when i used to get vials of ketamine and evaporate the shit in the oven, i didnt clean out the glass baking pan that i cooked it in one time and put more k in there to evaporate. it came out pink, and was some of the best ketamine any of us had ever had. we called it "pink rocket." another time it ended up green. those were good times.

darkstar
10-20-2008, 12:13 AM
Now that I've done a couple I wouldn't be surprised if it was fent. The dope seemed to be lacking in that over the top euphoria which make heroin so appealing. Definately got me high and I've never experienced fent, but from what I hear of it, it's not that euphoric. Weak heroin cut with fent. You might be right, diesel. I'll be careful with this batch.

bodymore
10-20-2008, 06:46 AM
Was the high shorter than normal?

OxyContinuously
10-20-2008, 07:41 AM
fent will turn purple upon addition of water (usually)

This sounds like Dormicon(sp?) or any Benedryl containing otc tablet

Cherry's Jubilee
10-20-2008, 08:10 AM
Like I said, I'm pretty certain that it's fentanyl. Wouldn't surprise me as it's pretty common on the west side in Chicago. It's even possible that we got the dope from the same spot by some coincidence. I'm familiar with fentanyl and the high was very similar to pharmaceutical fentanyl that I have experience with.

By the way, dope is cut with tons of different stuff. The stuff that I had was properly cut with fentanyl. Sometimes idiots will take inert powder (cut) and then put fentanyl in it. This can be very dangerous because fentanyl is measured in micrograms, a tiny ass amount smaller than a pinhead is literally the difference between life and death, hence the reason you hear about people dropping like flies whenever there's a batch of laced shit going around. You also can get it mixed up, with people selling actual heroin (usually weak shit) that's cut with a small amount of fentanyl (usually done properly if done this way) that will make it seem like it's good dope to people who don't know the difference or don't care.

I know that I've seen heroin being cut before and put into stamp bags, the people I know that did it used mannitol, quinine, thiamine and inositol. Other common cuts are lactose, vitamins, benadryl/anti-histamines and caffeine. It's usually just inert, especially people who are running a legit spot or legit dealers because they want the return business so it's not going to be too harmful (in relative terms). Of course on the occasion you hear about dope cut with Xanax, cocaine (I've had this before, yuck) or horse tranquilizers but these are isolated incidents and should be viewed as such. The cheese that you're talking about, Narkotikon, is prevalent in the south mostly (started out as a purely Dallas, TX phenomenon). It consists of tar that is mixed with water and cut up tylenol PM to turn it into a beige colored powder. It was a way of marketing heroin to kids in middle and high school and is disgusting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_heroin - Cheese samples contained only between 2-8% heroin...nasty, imagine shooting that shit :speechles

God couldn't they possibly come up with a less fucking stupid name? Seriously, read this paragraph from the article. How could you take this shit seriously?!

"Over the summer vacation months of 2007, the push against cheese continued. Parents and police organized a June 30 March, Sen. John Cornyn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cornyn) visited the area as part of an anti-cheese campaign in early July, the director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy gave a press conference from Dallas ISD headquarters in August praising the district's efforts, and local stores pulled Tylenol PM and similar drugs from the shelves to make them less accessible to cheese-makers."

WTF

bigNasty
10-20-2008, 10:45 AM
God couldn't they possibly come up with a less fucking stupid name? Seriously, read this paragraph from the article. How could you take this shit seriously?!

"Over the summer vacation months of 2007, the push against cheese continued. Parents and police organized a June 30 March, Sen. John Cornyn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cornyn) visited the area as part of an anti-cheese campaign in early July, the director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy gave a press conference from Dallas ISD headquarters in August praising the district's efforts, and local stores pulled Tylenol PM and similar drugs from the shelves to make them less accessible to cheese-makers."

WTF
LOL "anti-cheese campaign" cracked me the fuck up

poonwhalla
10-20-2008, 11:25 AM
LOL "anti-cheese campaign" cracked me the fuck up

Must be a group of lactose intolerant cops

darkstar
10-20-2008, 01:40 PM
Was the high shorter than normal?


Yes. A little while ago my buddy sent over some NYC dope with the stamp heineken. That was the best and it kept me noddin' for hours with a giant smile on my face. This stuff doesn't even compare. When I did a bag I felt more like I just wanted to lay down and kinda pass out for a bit. But then when I snap out of it, it's just like business as usual opiate high and I want to do more. It's really lacking in euphoria... no pleasant nodding.

bodymore
10-20-2008, 01:58 PM
Yes. A little while ago my buddy sent over some NYC dope with the stamp heineken. That was the best and it kept me noddin' for hours with a giant smile on my face. This stuff doesn't even compare. When I did a bag I felt more like I just wanted to lay down and kinda pass out for a bit. But then when I snap out of it, it's just like business as usual opiate high and I want to do more. It's really lacking in euphoria... no pleasant nodding.

Sounds like dorms to me

darkstar
10-20-2008, 02:17 PM
Yeah, I think you're right bodymore. It's dissapointing though cause I've heard such great things about Chicago dope. Oh well, at least it's not bunk or dangerous.

pharmboy
10-21-2008, 12:41 PM
Years and years ago the crank ( meth) use to be pink. I think because

thet didn't take the red off of the psudophedrin pills.

Papa Verine
10-21-2008, 10:52 PM
I'll tell you exactly what to expect on the West side of Chicago, buying H on the street. Most of them use a brown dope. It's a light brown dry powder-very strong. But they cut it TO SHIT with Dormin capsules. Almost everybody... the capsules are hot pink colored. They contain Diphenhydramine, a white powder. Tiny broken pieces of capsule end up in the dope / which is mostly Diphenhydramine. When you cook it up the water turns "pink" because Diphenhydramine dissolves perfectly clear. IF there was a considerable amount of H in that dope the water would be brown, you wouldn't be able to see the pink color at all. You'd have a brown liquid... You can find better dope in Chicago. You have to shop around!