DIY iv port: possibility or disaster?

[God_Albino]

ok i got a shitload of dillys and syringes sitting around, but i just cant hit a vein AT ALL anymore. its driving me crazy letting the fuckers go to waste eating them, so... are iv ports available outside of a hospital setting, much less installable for someone who cant hit with a insulin needle?

[dieselbaby]

Theoretically it's definitely possible, however if you're having that much trouble hitting a vein with insulin needles you may have trouble with the port. If you're able to get lucky and find a spot that works it would work. Your best bet at acquiring one of these though is unfortunately most likely by stealing it from a medical setting, I'm sure you can find one online but I'm not sure how readily available they are.

Back a couple of years ago I knew some people who worked in a hospice setting and one of them was a registered nurse. As a present, for $200 they hooked me up to a morphine drip via an IV port and would come over and push IV dilaudid and benzos (I think it was midazolam and diazepam) through the port every few hours. That shit was fun :)

[roxi*stardust]

I'de realy like to have Candy or Poppylver chime in on since both on them probably have more experience that I do. I know more about the equipment you need and I can tell you that you won't be able to get the proper stuff to care for it; ports need to be flushed with Hep-Lock Flush (low strength Heparin) and/or Sodium chloride. You maybe able to get Sosdium Chloride flush but the Hep-lock would be really hard to get ahold of. I don't think it's worth a blood clot.

BTW: to the above poster, a morphine drip through an IV port? Who mixed up the IV bag and what type of IV fluids did they use did they use?:magicshit

[dieselbaby]

BTW: to the above poster, a morphine drip through an IV port? Morphine given through a port=IVP. Who mixed up the IV bag and what type of IV fluids did they use did they use?:magicshit

It was one of those big ass fluid bags they give you in the hospital (like the ones they give you when you're dehydrated) with a bunch of morphine amps mixed in the bag. I don't think that it was evenly distributed throughout the bag because sometimes I'd be way too fucked up to take anything on top of it and other times I wasn't really fucked up at all. It was nice to sit down and see the little drips come out of the bag though.

[irish]

You can set up a port yourself. The setup kits are available online, but unless you really know what you are doing, and are lucky, you are at real risk for a major infection. I would avoid it.

[superman]

i would use one on the rare occasion that i go on a coke bender...

one time on such occasion my veins were fucked, like nearly impossible to hit, so the hits got bigger, lol

well ended up going psychotic and into the hospital and they got that inlet into my hand first try!!

noticed some of the compatible syringes on the shelf, and some ampoules of some odd anaesthetic.... so ya, after i got out of the hospital bathroom i don't remember much other than feeling like i was 4 years old again...... what a trip.....


so yea, definately feasible, extremely easy to use, and i will likely order a few of these kits of the net for future use :)

[Poppylvr]

I'de realy like to have Candy or Poppylver chime in on since both on them probably have more experience that I do. I know more about the equipment you need and I can tell you that you won't be able to get the proper stuff to care for it; ports need to be flushed with Hep-Lock Flush (low strength Heparin) and/or Sodium chloride. You maybe able to get Sosdium Chloride flush but the Hep-lock would be really hard to get ahold of. I don't think it's worth a blood clot.

BTW: to the above poster, a morphine drip through an IV port? Who mixed up the IV bag and what type of IV fluids did they use did they use?:magicshit
I'm not sure how you would get the equipment you need to do a long term port outside of a hospital setting. There are heparin or saline locks that are your basic peripheral IV - the soft plastic tube or catheter that is inside the vein is about an inch or so long; that would be useable for at best 3 days if you babied it and were careful.
Then there's the PICC line - Peripherally Inserted Central Catheter - looks like a heparin lock on the outside, but the part that stays in the vein is very long and ideally ends up in your vena cava - BIG VEIN - big flow. Now your risk for life threatening infection climbs because PICC lines are intended to stay in for a long time - a month or two. Unless you used scrupulous sterile technique AND sterile dope you would rapidly be in trouble.
Finally, there's the surgically implantable IV ports - you have to have these put in by a surgeon; they are intended for long term or very toxic IV solutions, ie chemotherapy. Again, because they are in central, large veins, the risk for death from infection is high.
My thought is unless you have one placed by a nurse or doc for a legit reason it would be very difficult to obtain one of these ports. They are very handy, though. I had a patient back when I worked on maternity who used her PICC line to shoot dope. We found out because the tar she shot clogged the PICC line up but good. After we learned about that, she was barred from going outside, and her visitors had to be observed so we could keep the new IV line safe for medical use. She actually had bacterial endocarditis from shooting dope and had to get IV antibiotics for 2 months.
I also knew of a fellow nurse addict who would place a hep lock way up on her arm where no one could see it, and she could shoot merrily away.....

[SurfRat]

I'm not sure how you would get the equipment you need to do a long term port outside of a hospital setting. There are heparin or saline locks that are your basic peripheral IV - the soft plastic tube or catheter that is inside the vein is about an inch or so long; that would be useable for at best 3 days if you babied it and were careful......


That's the thing it would only be good for a short time even if everything went well.

You tried your feet, ankles, legs etc?



Anybody got a hot tip on finding a vein?
I am sure he's still got a couple somewhere.

[Indy]

That's the thing it would only be good for a short time even if everything went well.

You tried your feet, ankles, legs etc?



Anybody got a hot tip on finding a vein?
I am sure he's still got a couple somewhere.

back of the knees i've heard has great veins, though you might need to stretch or use a mirror. no personal experience on this though.

[jonny-5]

my friend was telling me just the other day about this guy he met in rehab whos been a street junky for 30+ years, he said this guy one time managed to keep his iv port in when he left the hospital, and he wore that shit for 6 MONTHS! finally a doctor friend of his convinced him to take it out, but could you imagine? hes lucky he didnt get really sick or die.

[pharmboy]

You would be just asking for a systemic infection, plus you would need

a shit load of Heparin, and that shit is tricky to use plus you would need

a teflon needle and a Heparin lock. MIGHT be doable but VERY dangerous.

IM those suckers I'v IM'ed a couple hundred so far and no abscesses

yet. Keep it sterile, rinse everything in alcohol. Use sterile cotton.

1.5mg of dillie IM = 7.5mg orally. Good Luck. .:jumping-s

[God_Albino]

i had a doctor offer to leave mine in once (before i ever shot up) because i have holes in the crook of my arm from an old procedure, i guess he was trying to be a nice guy.

thinking about that is what got me started on this, but learning better shooting techniques sounds like a better idea at this point. thanks for the input.

[bigNasty]

You would be just asking for a systemic infection, plus you would need

a shit load of Heparin, and that shit is tricky to use plus you would need

a teflon needle and a Heparin lock. MIGHT be doable but VERY dangerous.

IM those suckers I'v IM'ed a couple hundred so far and no abscesses

yet. Keep it sterile, rinse everything in alcohol. Use sterile cotton.

1.5mg of dillie IM = 7.5mg orally. Good Luck. .:jumping-s

how are dillies when IM'd? How long does it take to feel them? I have a friend that can't ever find a vein AND his dumb ass fixed his shot in a 20 gauge needle. told him i'd ask how safe and effective it was to IM them

[rockbottom]

i remember i had a port in my left hand that i used for a couple of days after i left the hospital for some reason they left it and i used it---but i got scared after a couple days and took it out------i always would have a friend hit me after i had fucked up my easy access veins but finally i discovered my ankle veins and i met a junky in prison who had tracks all across his chest you have veins everywhere you can probably find an alternate location happy hunting:)