Need Advice, Important!

[dr0ckl0ck]

Hey guys, been long time since I've posted anything, but I kinda hit a snag last week and figured everyone here would be able to give me some advice. Okay get this...prior to 06 I was into H real bad, probably for a few years, and around the end of 06 I od'ed and got clean, was dead for few minutes and all that before they brought me back...sooo i decided to get clean and I have been ever since. That is I still burn the occasional joint and eat an occasional percocet or oxy or whatever. Well my arms have been fucked up from carpal tunnel and lots of labor work. I do pallet repair on pallets that are 13' and weigh 250 lbs...i repair sometimes 400 a day, thats a lot of lifting. Anyways, I worked especially hard one week and did 400 pallets every day instead of the average 200. Well my arms started acting up so I had just gotten my health insurance after my probationary period at work, so I decide to goto the E.R. to try to get something for my arms being fucked up. See I havent really talked to anyone I used to back in the day when I was doing stuff and hunting it down every payday.
Fuckin doctor at the E.R ended up giving me ONE 5mg vicodin after a 7 hour wait in the er waiting room, total bullshit. How ironic though, when I acutally need something in my life I cant get it but years ago I could get piles of pills...anyways...next few days after I start calling up people and trying to find something since the docs wouldnt help. Well I texted this kid and he didnt get a hold of me for a few hours, he finally did saying he knew a buddy that had 40's and 80's for 20 and 40 respectively....so I was like cool I'll get three 80's, so he puts his "buddy" on the phone and he gives me some story bout how hes an old guy and has back problems etc and has a script of them and is in a hard way and just trying to take a trip up a few hours to see family etc so he needs gas $ and food $ etc, so he says he'll sell me the last 20 80's he has for all the money i have on me, which is 120 bucks. I know you all will say I'm a retard but I've heard of shit like that happening, specially with old dudes that really dont sell thier shit but only do when they really need money. I gotta admit 6$ a pill sounded too good to be true.
So anyways he tells me where to meet and I go there. I've never met this guy so he calls and says hes in a black grand prix and will pull up and i'll get in car and we go for ride....so I wait out in front of a store and he pulls up and I get in. Right away it seemed funny but I just kinda let it happen I guess, felt kinda numb about it. Anyway he pulls 20 80s out of his pill bottle (had labels and shit on it) and they were already in a baggie, i look at em and give him the money and put them in my pocket. He says cool hes gotta get going up the road so is it cool to let you off here? and i say sure seeya...I goto get out and all of a sudden I got cops all over me undercover and shit with guns on me throwing me on the ground. They didnt read my rites at all and I asked multiple times if he was a cop (not that it matters anymore they can lie)....they never took me to station to process me, only had me write a statement about what happened (which i did) on yellow legal pad, very unprofessional and wierd whole way through. Anyway dude says he wants to kno who is buying/selling and where all the shit is etc etc. I keep saying I really dont know (which is the truth) and shit....but he keeps pushing so I say yah I can TRY to help them out (i aint no snitch) so he says im cooperating and working for them etc, they un handcuff me and just let me go and says we'll be in touch. he put his name and number in my phone and hes called me few times already and each time i just say I'm workin on it but it'll take time. I havent told them though that really I dont know anybody and its been years since I've been into shit.
I was really just lookin for somethin for my arms at the time for pain since the doc wouldnt help me out. They think i must know everyone and theier mother when it comes to drugs. So my rites werent read and I never got processed at station. They dont even have my address and dont know where I live...I'm sure they could find out if I just stopped answering my phone or something and tried to get away, but I'm not like that. I'm just wondering what all you people think about this situation, any adivce would be apprecaited. apparantly this dude says I'm facing "criminal intent" which is a felony he said and thats all he would say about it. HELP with advice. I'll check back for replies frequently, thanks again.

[EleusisII]

Shit, that's pretty bad...
Cooperating with the pigs. You know what snitches get, right?
I'm not saying you're a snitch, but they damn well want you to be one.
Get out as fast as possible, they'll try to suck you in deeper and deeper.
Right now you're just talking to them, but in a couple of months you'll be making controlled buys for them. I'll bet you a hundred bucks, that the guy who set you up, started out like you...
The only advice I got is get out now, before the bastards can really pull you in. And spread the word around about the prick who put you there.

BTW: We all know cops lie to make you do what they want. And legally, since you weren\t arrested or charged, I doubt they can put you in jail. Sure as hell not for a felony and for years.
That doesn't mean they can't make your life miserable.

[Boxcar]

wow thats a trip. i never heard of any shit like that. id just tell them the truth next time they call. but shit this sounds like one of things where they can really make yer life hell. did you ask the guy that hooked you two up about who he was. i mean it looks to me that the guy you talked to that hooked it up is in on the sting. i dunno. wierd shit if you ask me

[dr0ckl0ck]

Yeah I kno what your saying, and I sure as hell dont want any stitches thats for sure hah. I just wanted it to seem like I'm tyring the best I can to help but nothing I'm trying is turning over anything. In the meantime I'm paranoid that my phone is hot and that everyones phone that I talk to are hot too, dunno if they can just tap phones like crazy but its through the air I dont see why not. He calls every 3 or 4 days, called me twice so I've dragged it out about week n a half. Next time he calls I'm just going to say nothing is working out for me and its been years since I've been in the scene and cant really find anything, why else would I be so stupid to try hooking up with someone I dont even know. Know where I'm goin with this? Last thing I want is to end up a snitch. I aint no rat, I hate em. But in the meantime.....god help the dude that said "hey my buddy has 40's and 80's" if i ever run into his ass...

[dr0ckl0ck]

did you ask the guy that hooked you two up about who he was. i mean it looks to me that the guy you talked to that hooked it up is in on the sting. i dunno. wierd shit if you ask me
yeah man i did ask, and he said it was just one of his "buddies" as he always says when hes talkin bout ppl he can get shit from. this kid was takin trips to baltimore a lot for h, so i'm thinkin he hit a snag somewhere and is trying to get his bacon outta the pan. he was definetly in on it. after he said he had a buddy with them he said "here wanna talk to him?" and i was like "no man as long as they are what they say they are and how much they say they are i dont wanna talk to noone but you bout it" and he just handed the phone off. so im thinkin he wsa in cuffs same as what happened to me, cop tryin to get me to hold phone to my ear to talk to ppl. bullshit. i called some bs number and talked outta my ass to make it look like i was trying to get somethin, hah.

[RobotJones]

shit, dude. that sucks. i would say that if something seems too good to be true then it probably is, but i know that doesn't help at all after the fact. i don't know exactly what advice to give. i hope someone else on here will have some good advice. but it might be a good idea to talk to a lawyer about it. i'm not sure though.

a similar situation happened to me before. a friend and i got pulled over in a known drug neighborhood and the cops found our works. we told them we hadn't hooked up yet, so they said they'd let us go. one of the cops gave us his cell phone number and told us to go hook up and get high, and then call him and tell him the name of the person we got it from, what they were wearing, where we hooked up at, and where they kept the dope (in their mouth, side of a building, etc...)

we drove around for a while to make sure we weren't followed by the cops. we hooked up and got high, and i told my friend i wasn't going to call the cop, but i didn't want them to hunt me down either. so he called the cop and gave a bunch of bullshit info. as far as i know that was the end of it. but then later, i found out that my "friend" (which was just some kid i was getting high with for a couple weeks, not a real friend) had set up a dealer friend of mine like a week later for a bunch of rolls (ecstacy). apparently, this kid had cooperated with the cops in the past, so when the cops who pulled us over ran our licenses they must have found out that he had narked before and figured he'd do it again. the call he made with the false info might have been just a show for me so that i thought he was cool, but then later decided to set up my friend.

point is, you can't trust cops or people who you don't really know that well. i know that my story doesn't help you much, but i thought i'd tell it anyway. i hope your situation works itself out. good luck, bro.

[dr0ckl0ck]

BTW: We all know cops lie to make you do what they want. And legally, since you weren\t arrested or charged, I doubt they can put you in jail. Sure as hell not for a felony and for years.
That doesn't mean they can't make your life miserable.

he only asked once where i wanted the charges sent to and I told him i didnt want to send it to my house cuz my roomies finding out bout it, and i didnt want nothin sent to my parents house, so i said id get back to him bout my address to send charges to, think i should just keep puttin that off and never give him address? its half tempting to just have my phone disconnected, but I dont wanna make my life hell over something i can get out of ya know?

[EleusisII]

Get a lawyer... Think thats the best advice.

[Boxcar]

Get a lawyer... Think thats the best advice.
i second that..... at least talk to one, tell them the situation and see whats best to do. i thot you said you werent arrested, what do you mean when you say they want to know where to send the charges?

[dr0ckl0ck]

i thot you said you werent arrested, what do you mean when you say they want to know where to send the charges?
when they first threw me on the ground and cuffed me and shit they said "your under arrest!" but thats all that was said about it, i was never processed or anything, never even saw the barracks. went from getting bum rushed and cuffed to being back in the car on the way home within 30 minutes. whole thing is wierd. never read me my rights, never took me in, just let me go and said "we'll be in touch". maybe hes just threatening charges to make me fold?

[OxyContinuously]

there are no charges; none will be filed, you weren't arrested; next time the cop calls, tell him to "fuck himself" and that's that.

i'm serious

[Boxcar]

there are no charges; none will be filed, you weren't arrested; next time the cop calls, tell him to "fuck himself" and that's that.

i'm serious
i think i agree, but you risk the chance of them makin yer life a living hell. i go kickin some ass of the dude that set you up tho.

[EleusisII]

I'd outsource it... Let a few select people, preferably in the business, know...
Chances are, poor fucker got set up like you did.

[bigNasty]

Shit, that's pretty bad...
Cooperating with the pigs. You know what snitches get, right?
I'm not saying you're a snitch, but they damn well want you to be one.
Get out as fast as possible, they'll try to suck you in deeper and deeper.
Right now you're just talking to them, but in a couple of months you'll be making controlled buys for them. I'll bet you a hundred bucks, that the guy who set you up, started out like you...
The only advice I got is get out now, before the bastards can really pull you in. And spread the word around about the prick who put you there.

BTW: We all know cops lie to make you do what they want. And legally, since you weren\t arrested or charged, I doubt they can put you in jail. Sure as hell not for a felony and for years.
That doesn't mean they can't make your life miserable.
+1!!!! Eleusis is exactly right. Please don't snitch on anyone!!! I've heard about snitches just talking to the cops to give a little info and then it turns into pretty much working for the narcs, then they ask you to do something you're not comfortable with and they'll turn it over to a grand jury and get you indicted and not tell the judge you cooperated for a while. Then you'll get gang raped and killed in prison when they find out you were a snitch

TALK TO A LAWYER NOW!!!

[dr0ckl0ck]

Thanks for all the input, yeah I think I'm going to just talk to a lawyer and see what he says. Id love to do what continu said, but im too afraid that they'll just fuck with me non-stop. Whether or not I kno anything bout anything I'm just trying to make it look like I'm helping as much as I can when really Id rather tell them to go fuck themselves. Basically I'm trying to get off the hook and not snitch, because that ain't my thing and I'll go down before I take anyone with me. I know the ethics of it all very well, no fuckin way am i gonna narc. I just want them to think I'm trying. Guess i'm hopin they will think I'm a dead end and go away, hah.

[bigNasty]

have you ever been arrested before? if so, for what? If you have no felonies i say you do like OxyC said and tell him to fuck himself. If he somehow gets charges against you, a grand jury might not indict you. And if they do, your lawyer can get it dropped or plead to a misdemeanor. They won't convict you of intent to sell unless you said "Hell yeah man i'm gonna sell these for a dollar a mg" to the guy you bought em from and he was wearing a wire. I'd rather spend money on a lawyer and get a little probation(@ worst) than be a god damn snitch and risk getting killed over that kinda shit and losing all your friends. FUCK A SNITCH!!

[dr0ckl0ck]

have you ever been arrested before? if so, for what?
yeah i got charged once before for small amount of maryj, got one month probation and liscense suspention for 6 months. thats all thats on my record. misdemeanor

[bigNasty]

yeah i got charged once before for small amount of maryj, got one month probation and liscense suspention for 6 months. thats all thats on my record. misdemeanor
well damn it sounds like you're in a strict state if they give you anything more than a fine for weed. how long ago was that?

[SHELLEY]

i am going on house arrest but was facing jail time
only reason i got out of jail time was because i had kinda done a 180 before the warrant came out
and i was pregnant and now have a new baby

why bring this up here?
because i got stomped for that same kinda thing... exact fucking same
i got grabbed up for heroin possession by police
(i wasn't set up like you, just illegally searched randomly on the street)
they asked where i got it from, said they'd let me go if i "cooperated"
i made a phone call to an answering machine, to a friend of mine who i knew was in jail
told the police that "my guy doesn't answer until 8pm" which of course was bullshit
so they gave me a cellphone number and told me to call at 8pm
so that i could call my guy and "make a buy" for this undercover narc guy (not who arrested me)
then they let me go, actually gave me a ride back to the city limits in an unmarked
but of course i didn't call back at 8pm... or at all

it took them over 6months to put a warrant out, but they finally did it
THEY WILL FUCK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!!!!
don't think it's gonna be forgiven and forgotten
your options here are either flip or do time
as for the statement, who cares if it's "unprofessional"- if you signed it, it's GOOD in court
your gonna have to make a difficult decision here...

me, i'm doing the time (as house arrest, but still)

[Boxcar]

scary, what a shitty situation....you know how evryone will treat ya if you rat. no one likes a snitch. we get ourselves in these messes, its up to us to take the consequences.

[bigNasty]

your options here are either flip or do time
)
I couldn't disagree more with this ^^^^. Its a POSSESSION charge, they can't PROVE you intended to sell them if you are telling the truth about needing them for pain and thats why you were getting them. Thats why there are defense attorneys out there(think OJ) He killed two people and everybody in the world except 12 jurors knew it and he was free to go wherever he wanted until recently. If everybody here can come up with money for their dope habit, why won't everybody come up with the $$$ for their freedom? I promise its worth it

[Boxcar]

If everybody here can come up with money for their dope habit, why won't everybody come up for the $$$ for their freedom?


quite a quote.....

[bigNasty]

quite a quote.....
thanks!!! I swear its the truth. I hear alot of people on here just treating their freedom like a game of roulette. A lawyer is just like a doctor in that if you dress and look nice and say you have a good job they'll help you out and let you set up a payment plan if you don't have the money right then and there. A defense lawyer hates the drug laws just as much as us and does blow and drinks and sometimes drives drunk. I've tried to give you rep points today but it tells me i gotta spread it around which is bullshit cuz i only agree with certain folks so its hard to spread around.

[Boxcar]

thanks!!! I swear its the truth. I hear alot of people on here just treating their freedom like a game of roulette. A lawyer is just like a doctor in that if you dress and look nice and say you have a good job they'll help you out and let you set up a payment plan if you don't have the money right then and there. A defense lawyer hates the drug laws just as much as us and does blow and drinks and sometimes drives drunk. I've tried to give you rep points today but it tells me i gotta spread it around which is bullshit cuz i only agree with certain folks so its hard to spread around.


ahhhh dont even sweat it.... i gave em because i liked what you said, not to get any back

[oxy kid]

I'm with nasty on this. Get a lawyer...talk to him about the process of what is going to happen, and work on getting this stuff over with. It looks like they are just fishing with you trying to round up some stuff and make something bigger out of it. What they have right now is nothing compared to what they think they can get from you.

Talk to a lawyer, let him handle things, and NO DOUBT keep a straight road for a while. You don't want to attract any other attention to you.

[dr0ckl0ck]

yeah big, im in a commonwealth, bastards. the paraphenlia charge is 6 months probation minimum. i think im def going to talk to a lawyer, and soon at that. im def not gonna run, because i know like someone said they will not just forgive and forget, they want as much as they can, and they think everyone they catch is some big shit and can get all kinds of shit on people, not me. im very against snitching just as much for the reason of what happens to snitches as also the principal of it, i fucked up, its my problem and i gotta deal with it, the reason i got fucked was cuz some kid did the crime and dont wanna pay the time so he tries to rat everyone. through the vine ive heard hes gotten piles of his "friends" set up too. that town is gonna be empty by the time its said and done. ridiculous.
as far as the truth about me being in pain and needing to find something....thats very true, but as anyone who has been on dirt knows...that monkey is a heavy motherfucker and he beats on my back every so often n i gotta feed him a lil somethin just to make him stop...but other than the occasional oxy or ir or vic etc....i dont do shit. havent done dirt in years, sure i could find it, but who couldnt really? anyways i digress...gotta make appointment to see lawyer tommorow so maybe i can get in to whoever before the week is out. just when ya think your life is shit god tosses ya a handful of turbo-lax just to wake ya up.

[pharmboy]

Tell them you only know one drug ring and the head hauncho is a cop,

drives a black Grand Prix.

Yea It's pretty POLICE STATE out there any more, don't need to read rights,

can lie there asses off, Any thing goes. I guess your just lucky you didn't

" DISAPPEAR ". OH buy the way they know where you live and the whole

nine yards,and your phone is probably tapped.

[SHELLEY]

I couldn't disagree more with this ^^^^. Its a POSSESSION charge, they can't PROVE you intended to sell them if you are telling the truth about needing them for pain and thats why you were getting them. Thats why there are defense attorneys out there(think OJ) He killed two people and everybody in the world except 12 jurors knew it and he was free to go wherever he wanted until recently. If everybody here can come up with money for their dope habit, why won't everybody come up with the $$$ for their freedom? I promise its worth it

i guess, if ya have the time and $$ and confidence in your case to go to trial
problem is if ya go to trial and lose... hello maximum sentence!!
plus, i don't know what box you've been living in
but you don't hafta be a dealer to do time for possession
my charge was simple possession and i am still facin time

[oxy kid]

it all depends on your specific situation. you could be in one place and get popped and get probation or possibly a large fine...and then in another area for the same exact thing you could wind up getting 5 years...it all depends on how you deal with it and the people that are dealing with you.

you dont want to piss them off because they hold your near future in their hands.

[dr0ckl0ck]

you dont want to piss them off because they hold your near future in their hands.

right there is my key concern right now, keep em happy, give em nothin, get a lawyer in the meantime and hope for the best...

as far as phone being tapped, most likely....but i still use it, just sucks watchin every damn word i say and who i call. hell ive stopped answering 70% of the ppl on my contact list for fear of em bringin up somethin. just today some kid called me up and said "sup man wanna come over fix my computer for me? i'll get ya really fuckin STONED"....i just said my service was goin n hung up. get my anxiety levels up, sheesh

[oxy kid]

our legal system will take you for a ride if you dont please them, even though that sounds sick and twisted; but thats what we have to deal with.

man i wish you the best with everything...but a lawyer will definetly be the smartest move you could make. you never even know what they have you with until they try to back you in a corner and make you make a decision you wouldn't normally make. its hard to give you the perfect advice, but a lawyer will know all the legal ins and outs and can help out.

[red26]

Somehow it got out that you were touched and no one will go near you anymore. You dont know what to do because you want to help, but everybody you know told everybody they know and its getting dangerous now. If you do get in touch with someone chances are you got in touch with them because someone wants you dead now thanks to them. Your life is ruined again , thanks to them. Maybe if they were alittle more low key about pinching you there would be a chance you could hook something up but at this point the only way you can do anything is if your packin a heater cuz they've caused so much static around you.

Because of what they did(not that they'll care) your life could be in danger now. If its "do 6 years or rat and everything dissapears" Id find some P.O.S. that did you wrong B-4 and let them take the fall. If its a nothing sentence like 6 months and some probation I'd take the 6months, but talk to at least 3!!! attourneys man. at least so you get a ballpark figure on what you could be looking at. Just remember those crim. defense Att.always low-ball you with what you could be looking at. Tey're about as greasy as they come and are terrific salesmen.

[Boxcar]

too bad it cant somehow be turned around onto the guy that set you up. tell them hes the main guy, hes yer goto guy fer everything. bring it on heavy to him. his rat ass got you into a whole heapa shit. i mean we really ultimately have ourselves to blame. but FUCK DECRIMINALIZE the fuckin dope already so this bullshit dont exist!!!! this story pisses me the fuck off. you gotta turn it onto the dude that ratted you somehow someway....

[bigNasty]

i guess, if ya have the time and $$ and confidence in your case to go to trial
problem is if ya go to trial and lose... hello maximum sentence!!
plus, i don't know what box you've been living in
but you don't hafta be a dealer to do time for possession
my charge was simple possession and i am still facin time
PLEASE read post 16 of this thread. I CLEARLY stated that if a grand jury indicts you, a good lawyer can get it reduced to a misdemeanor or get you to go to rehab for a few months, pass a few UA's then get it dropped, etc.....

I don't know what kinda box you've been living in but lawyers can and will get you out of charges for money. I've been there, done that. I know alot of lawyers, judges, prosecutors, DA's, etc....

BTW YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT.............well you're always right-wing but not always correct.

PS I'm not always right either but i don't claim to be like you do. Peace

[upstate_007]

I was in a somewhat similar situation years ago. I got popped for possession and paraphernalia. They gave me the option to snitch and get everything dropped. I tried to string them along hoping that they would see I was "trying" and just forget about it. Nope. I got charged with all the original charges when I was deemed uncooperative.

I did get a lawyer and ended up with just paying fines and some community service.

[bigNasty]

I was in a somewhat similar situation years ago. I got popped for possession and paraphernalia. They gave me the option to snitch and get everything dropped. I tried to string them along hoping that they would see I was "trying" and just forget about it. Nope. I got charged with all the original charges when I was deemed uncooperative.

I did get a lawyer and ended up with just paying fines and some community service.
Thats what usually happens for a possession charge unless you are a serious repeat offender. Most everybody these days, including judges and prosecutors, know someone thats had a problem with drugs or alcohol and they don't wanna lock you up until you do something really bad like robbery or you are a repeat offender and prove you can't get your act together. I mean the judge will think "Hell, Rush Limbaugh and Brett Favre and Cindy McCain had the same troubles with pain pills and they're still free and have their lives back on track"

To the OP, google your state's name and "prison overcrowding or prison overpopulated". Alot of judges and prosecutors would rather give you probation or community service or fines or house arrest, etc.. cause most states are trying to cut down on non violent prisoners because of over-crowding.

[OxyContinuously]

i mean if it's possession, based on the circumstances you have told us, that's simple possession, ie. possession in the "seventh degree" as they call it..

it's a class A misdemeanor--- no biggie at least in NY (here for an offense like that, you'll be arrested and be given what's called a "D.A.T."-- desk appearance ticket which has ur charge on it, and a date and time to appear in criminal court)

misdemeanors are considered "criminal offenses," but they are not really that bad...if this is ur 1st offense, forget about jail time.

get a good attorney and ur looking at either a fine, or disorderly conduct, or a complete dismissal if the police fucked up the lab report b/c in all drug cases, they must sebnd the dope to the state lab to be analyzed...many times, shit is so backed up

and when i got arrested i was charged w/ possession; the pigs lied to me and told me if i dont cooperate they would up it to a felony, this that and the third...he's like so are u gonna tell us who ur connect is? i go, what's a connect? he says have it your way, i said "eat shit you stupid (n-word)" and make a long story short, i got the case dismissed...

dont let the cops scare you: a good rule of thumb is that if they had what they claim to, they don't waste time telling you /threatening you about it; they simply do it and it's up to you to prove ur innocence...most if not alltheir tactics are based on lies and fear...

[Pointy]

Is the OP an nice clean white guy without a serious record? if he is then the courts wont want to send him to jail. But if you got a record or are brown or black you are going to get fucked.

The folks who keep saying "get an attorney" are spot on. Once they know you have an representation they gotta deal with the lawyer. Which will take some stress off you. but like Mr. Nasty says you got to pay for your freedom. it aint free.

[SHELLEY]

BTW YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT.............well you're always right-wing but not always correct.

PS I'm not always right either but i don't claim to be like you do. Peace

i never claimed to be always right... hell, i'm USUALLY wrong! :o
i'm just sharing my experience since i am currently involved in a *very* similar legal situation
i got me a good lawyer too so i hve no probation or real jail time
but a good lawyer only goes so far if you don't have
the time/energy/CONFIDENCE IN YOUR CASE (that's the big one!) to go to **trial**
going to trial and losing sucks!
if you and your attorney aren't super confident that you will win the trial
(or possibly your case is so good that the DA won't want to go to trial, that's even better)
then you gotta settle, plea out, etc
of course a good attorney can get you less time/treatment/house arrest/etc... no shit!
but... but... well... ummmmmmm...

...what were we arguing about again? :)
i'm guessing it was something silly and/or pointless-
can we shake hands and make nice instead of continuing it? PEACE???

[bigNasty]

i never claimed to be always right... hell, i'm USUALLY wrong! :o
i'm just sharing my experience since i am currently involved in a *very* similar legal situation
i got me a good lawyer too so i hve no probation or real jail time
but a good lawyer only goes so far if you don't have
the time/energy/CONFIDENCE IN YOUR CASE (that's the big one!) to go to **trial**
going to trial and losing sucks!
if you and your attorney aren't super confident that you will win the trial
(or possibly your case is so good that the DA won't want to go to trial, that's even better)
then you gotta settle, plea out, etc
of course a good attorney can get you less time/treatment/house arrest/etc... no shit!
but... but... well... ummmmmmm...

...what were we arguing about again? :)
i'm guessing it was something silly and/or pointless-
can we shake hands and make nice instead of continuing it? PEACE???
Yeah we cool. But I get what you're saying about if it goes to trial and you get convicted you get super fucked like it pisses judges and prosecutors off to have to go thru a trial when the constitution tells us we all have the right to a fair and speedy trial. Thats bullshit IMO cuz they always want you to plead down so it DOESN'T go to trial. Fucked up system we have, huh?

[jonny-5]

honestly it almost sounds like an elaborate hoax set up to get your 120 bux. i assume they never gave that back. are you sure they were cops?

they didnt do anything that would hold up in court, they didnt file any charges or anything. they think they can bully you, they think youre dumb and cant figure out your rights here. the best advice here yet was "next time they call tell them to go fuck themselves."

thats what you do. and if they try to bring you up on charges, you get a lawyer, hell even a public defender would have no problem with this one, this is a no brainer.

[roxi*stardust]

Here's some advice for you. Do not answer their calls. Get in the yellowpages and call a lawyer ASAP. If you can't hire one, you need to call your local Legal Aide, it will be in the Human resource section in you phonebook. I believe with a lawyer, you'll be able to get off. Especially since they did not read you your rights, nor did they file a police report. Sounds like a few cops trying to collar a big guy and they are using people like you to do it. I have seen them run ops like this before, they bust one guy tell him they'll let him off if he will set up a bigger fish. This guy sets up the bigger fish, then they give him the same choice go to jail or set someone up. They work their way up the chain in hopes of catching a big bust. So stop talking to them right now, call a lawyer!!!!

[LorTabitha]

^^^

+1

Also, if they are tapping your phone, they might also be monitoring your internet usage. Be Careful!

[losangeleslifer]

Damn the cops must have plenty of time and resources to fuck with you like that. In LA, that shit would not happen. A few fucking oxy's? I know guys getting popped with more than that. Lawyer time.

[dr0ckl0ck]

Hey guys, been a few days since I've been online, thanks for all the replies. I took some advice and yesterday I changed my phone number and had it marked as private, so I guess I'll see how this goes. Hopefully they'll leave me alone now. Cop called me on a tuesday and said he wanted to "do something this week" and I said I'd have to get back to him because I didn't know the ppl I used to, he didn't bring up me giving him an address to send charges to, so i didn't say anything other than I was going to try to get a P.O. box to have it sent to. I waited about 10 days after he called and he never got a hold of me again so I said fuck it and changed my #, hopefully that'll deter them, n hopefully it won't piss them off. I've stopped using my phone for my arrands and what not. Basically I've removed myself from ppl I kno etc. time to lay low for a while. For my job I have an address thats out of the state, and I changed my cell # to a # outside the state also. I stay at someone's house as much as I can who lives out of state too, so really I'm only in the state for work everyday. Anyways I'll keep ya guys posted and in the meantime try to talk to a lawyer sometime, I've been putting it off but I gotta stop and just talk to one. Anyways thanks again guys. Just ran into some mallie ir 30's, so thats helpin my arms/head/mood out thank the lord! Peace y'all