chewing or bucal 3 day worn patch ?...

[lubin]

if one was to chew/buccally use a patch worn for 3 days, would it be better to squeeze the remaining liquid out, then chew or leave it in there then chew? i do not want to delve into the smoking thing being new to fent and all, but these 50's + b/t meds (4x15mg roxis) are still leaving me in almost intolerable amount of pain throughout the day. the past week and a half since starting the patch has been one of the longest and most painful weeks i can remember. the week and half have seemed like a month, since i am rarely getting any sleep b/c of pain. day 3 of patch=i dont get out of bed or move from couch much, as the pain and frustration of little to no relief is so bad...i'm talking having me in tears bad and i am not usually a crier when it comes to pain. i am just looking for a little more pain relief until i can get back to the doc early next week and discuss moving to 75ug or whatever decision we come to. thinking about being in this much pain another 3-4 days makes me want to jump off a tall structure ;) :(

hard to say where my tolerance level is, but the 50's + b/t meds are barely doing anything for me except for keeping me out of bad wd's. i can take at least 60mg of methadone (was on prior to fent). so i have a pretty high tolerance to opies and have been taking them steadily for about 7 years w/ most of that time spent on hydro... (still dont want to smoke fent yet, but would like to be able to get some extra b/t relief) as i am suffering horribly about 20hrs each day

thanx

[bored in sofl]

stick your finger in da gel then pick your nose j/k. becarefull with that gel start real small

[LorTabitha]

if one was to chew/buccally use a patch worn for 3 days, would it be better to squeeze the remaining liquid out, then chew or leave it in there then chew?

Sorry to hear about your pain. :( I have had luck squeezing the gel out in SMALL amounts and using it buccally. After all the gel has been squeezed out and used, I then chewed the patches.

Good luck at the dr's and keep us updated.

[lubin]

Sorry to hear about your pain. :( I have had luck squeezing the gel out in SMALL amounts and using it buccally. After all the gel has been squeezed out and used, I then chewed the patches.

Good luck at the dr's and keep us updated.


to LT or anyone else who might know: when you you squeezed the gel out of the patch was it one that you had already worn? and how did you apply it buccaly? is there something you put the gel onto first, or just the actual wet gel itself? i would like to know if there is something you can put the gel on that would absorb it and then use said item to place b/t cheek and gums?

like i said previously i do not want to smoke as i plan to use as directed, just wanting to know how to get all i can from the patch after use for extra b/t med pain relief until i can get back to dr...i could use feeling good after suffering so much for the past week and half.

[LorTabitha]

to LT or anyone else who might know: when you you squeezed the gel out of the patch was it one that you had already worn? and how did you apply it buccaly? is there something you put the gel onto first, or just the actual wet gel itself? i would like to know if there is something you can put the gel on that would absorb it and then use said item to place b/t cheek and gums?

I wore the patches for 3 days. I then cut them open at one end, and put the patch on a piece of foil or something similar. I squeezed a small amount out onto the foil, picked it up using a credit card-type thingie and put the gel blob directly on my gums or under my tongue. After all the gel was used up, I chewed the patch a few times, until it didn't seem to have an effect.

I don't know about putting the gel into something else, maybe some other opi has some tips?

[ndoftaworld]

If ya smoke, dab some gel on foil and roll a cig around in it. Wait for it to dry, then smoke. Good, quick, buzz... but doesn't last too long.

I just got on the gel patches too, and am smoking them already... if u ever dive into that end of the pool, be cautious, 'one more hit...' turns into 'one more patch...' VERY quick.

Nd

[insaneike]

Yeap, fent is the crack of opiates! It's the best and shortest. The best hardest rush I've ever had was from IV fent. Hell smoked fent puts IV morph/oxy to shame!
The only way I can get any breakthrough relief now is by smoking fent. I'm also on the 5mg patches(in combo with five of the 1.2mg ones/month with 'done n roxis). The roxi 30s don't do a thing for me no more. Even on top of the fentanyl and m'done. Taking hits of fent is the only thing I have found that works when m pain gets to where I'm about ready to go to the ER ya know. It fucking sucks, esp cause I run out so quick when I have a lot of bad days that month, and the cold season coming on the pain is just getting worse and more frequent.
When I tried fent transmucosaly I just squeezed out lil blobs and held under my tongue till it seemed like ti was gone, then every 5-8min added another blob till I was 'good'.
never chew up my empty patches. I save em till I got 5-10 empties and soak in alcohol, then put a piece of foil on a plate n let evap on the foil, the fold up n smoke away. Wouldn't believe how much is left in the 'empties' either when you save up a couple..

later

[KiloByte]

I tried the alcohol thing with a patch once and when I tried smoking the dried "product" I just ended up gettng really sick with no high. What the fuck am I doing wrong?

[ndoftaworld]

Yeap, fent is the crack of opiates! ... Hell smoked fent puts IV morph/oxy to shame...

Amen! Lighten up right now! Nice and fried before bed :D Down to 3 patches left, and 17 days till refills tho :(

Ah, fuck it. I DO save my empties, even still had some mylan's from the first month's rx saved in a ziplock baggy. So, even when the gel is 'gone' plenty of fent left to last a few days longer.

EDIT: Oh! Forgot about the morphine and sharps coming in the mail this week! Wowee, with some soma's thrown in too! Damn good weekend it's gonna be! :cool:
Nd

[God_Albino]

ive said this i dont know how many times before, but taking tiny measured risks of smoked gel is a hell of a lot safer that stuffing your face with an unknown, potentially lethal dose. but...

squeeze the gel out onto foil or somewhere safe, cut the patch into two pieces and chew slowly. even with a tolerance, half an empty 100 chewed works better than a couple oxy or dones for pain.

[JimboGianto]

Put a *small* amount of gel in your mouth and swish it around in your mouth for about 20 to 30 minutes, it should kick in by then, but no longer than an hour though I wouldn't want to swish my own spit around for an hour lol, and then see if it does anything until you figure out your personal dose because those things are really hard to gauge. All I can say is be EXTREMELY careful even if it is a used patch because it is potent shit and very easy to OD even with a used patch I would assume.

[lubin]

quick update...last week dr moved me to the 75 patches and my pain has been much better, still hurting quite a bit, but much better than the weeks before.

thanx to all those who helped and offered kind words

[Princess]

If ya smoke, dab some gel on foil and roll a cig around in it. Wait for it to dry, then smoke. Good, quick, buzz... but doesn't last too long.

I just got on the gel patches too, and am smoking them already... if u ever dive into that end of the pool, be cautious, 'one more hit...' turns into 'one more patch...' VERY quick.

Nd

Good for a "quick" fix.

Yeap, fent is the crack of opiates! It's the best and shortest. The best hardest rush I've ever had was from IV fent. Hell smoked fent puts IV morph/oxy to shame!

never chew up my empty patches. I save em till I got 5-10 empties and soak in alcohol, then put a piece of foil on a plate n let evap on the foil, the fold up n smoke away. Wouldn't believe how much is left in the 'empties' either when you save up a couple..

later

I second both of insaneike's above comments...;)

I tried the alcohol thing with a patch once and when I tried smoking the dried "product" I just ended up gettng really sick with no high. What the fuck am I doing wrong?

Smoking the empties soaked in alcohol isn't going to be enough to keep well if you "need" fentanyl. This alone isn't enough to keep me well. It's fun to do and a nice added buzz, but not enough. It sucks once you bust that bubble and tolerance goes through the fucking roof.

OH and Lubin- I'm so sorry about the pain. It really sucks to be in pain and not getting the relief needed. I'm sorry :(

[ndoftaworld]

quick update...last week dr moved me to the 75 patches and my pain has been much better, still hurting quite a bit, but much better than the weeks before.

thanx to all those who helped and offered kind words

*mummble* lucky mofo...

j/k, just I can't get 75's prescribed no matter what. You'd think after being on patches for 4 months, I could get stronger doses or MORE to last through the month... nope.

Side note: I'm seeing my OLD PCP (back from '04, used to be the family doc) on Wednesday. Hopefully, knowing his rx writing practices, should be taken care of ;) (My dad's on an 'unlimited' script for Darvocet for his back, one call and he's got a refill waiting for him...)

Here's hoping....

Nd

[lubin]

some of the patches (the first 3 that i wore, so about month old) that have been worn for 3 days are now all dried up...as in the remaining gel has dried inside the patch. outside of smoking, what is the next best thing to get more use out of them? i assume the gel just dried on the interior reservoir, and didnt evap. out of the patch.? they are the 50's. i also have some used 25 mylans.

is it safe to cut them up and use them buccally now? i am needing some extra b/t help, also would not mind some warm fuzzy feeling too :D as i could sure use it.

thanx

[clinton]

plug it..............:D

[ndoftaworld]

...are now all dried up...as in the remaining gel has dried inside the patch. outside of smoking...

You can smoke them after they're all dried up?? I can see the fent in it, but didn't think about smoking that... just buccally or the alcohol procedure to get another couple patches (maybe) worth of hits.

Hmm... *grabs ziplock of used patches*

Nd

[ndoftaworld]

^^ Yeah u can!!

Scraped the inside of the resevoir w/ a razor onto foil... took a bit to light, but WOW! what a hit!

Hehe, what a nice little surprise on this otherwise opie-less day :D

Nd

[KiloByte]

^^ Yeah u can!!

Scraped the inside of the resevoir w/ a razor onto foil... took a bit to light, but WOW! what a hit!

Hehe, what a nice little surprise on this otherwise opie-less day :D

Nd

Ever try chewing them?

[ndoftaworld]

Ever try chewing them?

...just buccally or the alcohol

Yep, just doesn't do much pain-wise, w/d's (tho mine TG aren't severe), or even a buzz. Smokin' gives all the goodies (tho rather quickly, I know), so if I can... I'ma gonna :D

Nd

[KiloByte]

Yep, just doesn't do much pain-wise, w/d's (tho mine TG aren't severe), or even a buzz. Smokin' gives all the goodies (tho rather quickly, I know), so if I can... I'ma gonna :D

Nd

Lulz, take care ndoftaworld. It's so nice to be able to enjoy this wonderful shit huh?

[ndoftaworld]

Lulz, take care ndoftaworld. It's so nice to be able to enjoy this wonderful shit huh?

Ahh, so wonderful... but so deadly. Truly one of the best things on earth ;)

Nd

[samsong]

How many empties did you scrape and how may hits did you get?

I usually just chew the empties at nighttime to help sleep along with my opana ir's. The empties are great for wd's as well but make me tired, no euphoria.

Thanks

[ndoftaworld]

How many empties did you scrape and how may hits did you get?

I usually just chew the empties at nighttime to help sleep along with my opana ir's. The empties are great for wd's as well but make me tired, no euphoria.

Thanks

Actually, just one to test. (A squeezed, but not worn one). Opened it, scraped it onto foil, and then scraped a gel-like 'film' onto the foil. It sizzles and burns just as gel... even get that nice fent taste. 4 or 5 hits I'd say, 1 patch had me feeling pretty good last night.

haven't tried with the ones I've worn yet... don't know if those'll work the same or not.

GL,

Nd

[lubin]

for anyone that chews their worn gel empties and doesnt smoke...do you usually cut them before chewing? i wanted to know for safety reasons, as i know that the left over gel after a 2 to 3 day wear (currently i am on 75s every 2 days) has now dried inside the older patches, so is it safe to cut and chew or just chew/cheek the whole patch.

hopefully ok to cut, as the 75s are big mothers. i need some extra b/t relief and would like to know as soon as anyone can reply. i really need to know.

thanx in advance

[StaffWriter]

I was against smoking a patch because I was scared of overdosing, but once I tried it, placing a matchead sized blob of fent goo on top of foil, with an empty pen tube, placing that tube about half-inch from the foil over the blob and placing a lighter underneath the blob. While it sizzles, inhale through the tube (or straw) until the blob of fent turns brown. It didn't knock me on my ass, probably because I'd been wearing the patch for 2-3 days and I have a high tolerance. It's fun to have something left over after three days of being high and get somewhat of a rush. I usually smoke half and then place a dab under my tongue and then place some goo on my finger and rub it along my gumline.

[ndoftaworld]

I was against smoking a patch because I was scared of overdosing, but once I tried it, placing a matchead sized blob of fent goo on top of foil, with an empty pen tube, placing that tube about half-inch from the foil over the blob and placing a lighter underneath the blob. While it sizzles, inhale through the tube (or straw) until the blob of fent turns brown. It didn't knock me on my ass, probably because I'd been wearing the patch for 2-3 days and I have a high tolerance. It's fun to have something left over after three days of being high and get somewhat of a rush. I usually smoke half and then place a dab under my tongue and then place some goo on my finger and rub it along my gumline.


*Sigh*... I miss my patches :( Oh well, sounds like a good nite for perc's and benzo's!! (blah!)

Nd

[samsong]

When the fent gel is sizzling, that is actually the alcohol burning off, not the fent. To get the whole hit of fent, you have keep inhaling while it turns black and then disappears--once the foil is clear again, then you know you have gotten the whole hit. Depending on the size of the blob of gel, it may take several lights and seperate inhales to get the whole thing. If you are discarding the foil while it is still black, you are throwing away the best part of the hit.

[ndoftaworld]

Ur making my skin crawl!! Maybe I should unsubscribe from the Fent forums for now... @ least until I'm back on it, or another suitable opie...

Keep reading about smoking that divine tasting gel... yum! Damn it! Ain't even got dilles nemore to keep me up (or down?). Nothing but 5 fucking perc 5's left :( Yep, a whopping total of 25mg oxy w/ a little over 1500mg of that WONDERFUL apap :rolleyes:... AND, I gotta TRY to make em last till Monday, ha! Yeah, right. :(

Jebus, may the opie-fairy visit this bad little boy tonight :)

Hope y'all aren't just talking about it, and actually able to light up some fent right now... the thought of someone catching that sweet buzz is better than nothing I guess...

Peace all, and take care...

Nd

[lister40]

The best way is to remove the gel and smoke it because a little is left.. but if you want to use it, take the gel out and rub it against the front of your teeth and don't swallow for a while. Also, do not chew? that wastes so much, cut the patch in half and put one on each side of your mouth.