Prescription Forgery

[antony]

This girl I know is thinking about forging a script for a ciii drug that she normally gets prescribed on a monthly basis. She only goes to 2 of the same pharms, so they know her and know what she gets, so she thinks if she goes in with it, they won't doubt her. She is obviously very nervous, and has never done it before. I've seen the template she has and it looks very good. she has also done her research and knows the latin symbols that need to be used, the only problem she says, shes afraid they keep old scripts on file, and is afraid her writing won't match, and then she's fucked.
I want to hear if anyone knows of anyone succeding with this, and I don't want to hear how its dangerous or how she could lose the doc. She already knows the dangers.

[jab]

There's been advice and experience of this sort offered here before.. you can find some by searching. But the overall opinions are "don't do it". You may get away with it once, or twice, who knows. But sooner or later the person will get busted. The pharmacists many times know the doctors handwriting (special where they've seen it plenty of times, like this situation), the risks definately outweigh the gains, and it's really just plain bad.

I hope the best for you and your friend, but this is a bad idea. Do you think your the first people to think of this, or the first time the pharmacist has had this pulled on him??

All the best.

[DaOxyMan]

ok...i have tried this and i must say i agree it is a bad idea but if you must try it or the girl or whatever take the following precautions...make sure you have EVERYTHING NECESSARYY on the script..for instance, you need to have like PR which means "by mouth" and maybe QID which means "4 times daily" or whatever the script calls for..you gotta know correct and exact doctor lingo ya know...also, on the fake script, this is where i messed up and almost got busted....MAKE SURE YOU PUT A DEA #!!! Search the internet, there is info on how to forge a DEA #, there is a formula that the numbers must match up and such, it is a pattern so to speak...you will be able to make your own DEA # with ease within a few minutes of searching..no CIII or CII drugs will be prescribed w/out a DEA# and thats why the pharmacy didn't fill my script for my 90 eighty mg OCs...Bastards...also it would probly be best if she didn't use her insurance obviously

[antony]

She says she wrote down his dea # last time she saw him, and she gets Vic ES's and 120 of them. She gets them every month, so it won't be out of the ordinary for her. She says it's her first and LAST time if she goes through with it. I'm trying to warn her and just go through the w/ds like normal, but she is just one of those people who likes the excitment of danger then go into hiding for a while. if that makes sense. She knows how to write the script, and the DEA# but the only thing is she is worried about is the paper shell print out and the handwriting, otherwise I think shes got a decent chance.

Jab, she knows shes not the first to think of it, shes a bit weird but shes definatly not stupid

[candy]

Oooh, first off, PR means-"by rectum", so I wouldn't use that!!!!!!

And often times the pharmacist will call the docs, especially when it involves opiates. If she gets this drug monthly and she goes in early with a script, more than likely the pharmacist is going to call the doc.

Just a bad idea all around!

[antony]

She says it was a month and a half since the last time she went to the pharmacy that she says she'll use.
I think she's just depressed that she's nearly out of her supply and is thinking of the next 2 weeks without them. I think we've all gotten like that.

[dissident]

swim has only done this with real security prescription pads and it worked untill he started calling them in..

deffinatly dont forget the dea # and dont forget anything that they would have to call the doc about. other than that there are security script pads here in cali that have stuff on them that cant be forged, and that is what the pharmacists check, so dont fuck up. maybe she should try scripting herself tramadol so they wont be so worried about the security script paper

[antony]

Being that she's honestly never done this, and if she gets caught, the consequences might not be that severe. But I don't know for sure. And she says the paper the doc uses usually is normal paper, no water mark, no triplicate pads, no numbering system. If that was the case, I don't think she'd go through with it. Illinois doesn't have laws pertaining to that. And the doc she sees is far from the pharmacy and Im 99.9% sure shes the only one in her part of the woods that sees him. So I don't think they know the doc at the pharmacy except through her. She alternates the 2 pharms every month so neither one thinks of anything when they see her. (at least it doesn't seem like shes waiting in line every month to get her script, just gets it when she needs it). I appreciate the feed back and please keep it coming PM or otherwise.

[oc80tn]

In our local newspaper, there are at least two to three stories a week about someone getting arrested for calling in or forging a script for C-III or C-IV drug. I don't know what the laws are like in your neck of the woods, but in this state there are pretty harsh penalties for attempting to obtain a controlled substance by fraud or forgery.
If your friend gets caught, I about guarantee she will spend at least a night or two in the city jail. And depending on the size of the town, she may be shamed by having a story written about her in the newspaper or even on TV/radio. And to top it off, even if she ended up not serving any time, she would probably still get some type of probation and probably have a very hard time ever getting a doctor to write anything other than penicillin ever again!
I have been going to the same pharmacy to get my meds refilled for almost three years and they still call the office to confirm the legitimacy of the prescription. Granted, it is a C-II for oxycodone products, but with the overblown press coverage of the prescription drug problem in America AND the DEA henchmen scaring every doctor from Maine to Hawaii from writing narcotics, she better be absolutely sure she knows what she is doing, right down to the crossing of the i's and the dotting of the t's! ( I know...reverse that)
My advice would be to just endure the withdrawals or find someone who has some to sell. That can be a risky proposition, in some cases, but a damn whole lot less than walking into a pharmacy with a fake script for a schedule three controlled substance! I'd just hate to see someone get pinched for something like that. It's not worth the risk.

[DaOxyMan]

ok when i tried this i stole script pads from my Docs office (They almost always have them layin in some drawer)..but if she like xeroxed or scanned them, ABSOLUTELY DO NOT try this as they will most likely recognize it as a fake..its to stupid and risky...also, if you don't want them to call the doc, simply do what i did to avoid this disaster- go to a 24 hour pharmacy...try and have them filled at like 9 at night, at a time when the doc's office is obviously closed so they can't call..i mean honestly this made sense in my head when i was 16 but i failed and didn't get my script so don't take my advice too seriously haha

[antony]

We both go to the same doc, and hes a fucking cool guy. And she goes through the w/ds every month, so I think its just a pill dream. She knows hes too cool of a doc to ruin the trust shes got with him, and maybe everyone else for that matter. Who knows what could transpire if she gets busted, he could get royally fucked if he got found out (maybe not, he only writes for vic es's, nothing higher) but either way, we both fuck ourselves everytime by saying "I'll only take 4-6 a day, so I'll have them all month" what fuckin crock of shit.

Either way, she's just gonna have to suck on the w/ds like always.

[devilsdrug]

here is the jist of it , if you can talk her into it they probably wont find its forged till later , just make sure you keep the pills in case she gets grabbed by the script police , can you tell i use to be a wwway low life JUNKY at one point in time ,of course this is nothing

[THEPAINTER1960]

This girl I know is thinking about forging a script for a ciii drug that she normally gets prescribed on a monthly basis. She only goes to 2 of the same pharms, so they know her and know what she gets, so she thinks if she goes in with it, they won't doubt her. She is obviously very nervous, and has never done it before. I've seen the template she has and it looks very good. she has also done her research and knows the latin symbols that need to be used, the only problem she says, shes afraid they keep old scripts on file, and is afraid her writing won't match, and then she's fucked.
I want to hear if anyone knows of anyone succeding with this, and I don't want to hear how its dangerous or how she could lose the doc. She already knows the dangers. If you were in New York or Florida you would not need a written prescription. Just pick up the phone and call it in and know what you are doing. You can only do that for class 111 . No class 2 drugs. see ya.

[antony]

quote from Forrest Gump that was cut out:

"Devilsdrug always had a way of explaining things so I could understand."

Does anyone know why they cut it out?

Didn't think so.

Youre the best devil:D

PS: New York is for chumps and I shouldn't have to say anything about florida. In chicago, they want you to test the law, thats why we cant call it in. Daley says "Fuck you, try me" in EVERY press conference since he got elected in '89. His dad taught him to beat the piss out of people, but he knows he can't do it anymore.

[dissident]

here is the jist of it , if you can talk her into it they probably wont find its forged till later , just make sure you keep the pills in case she gets grabbed by the script police , can you tell i use to be a wwway low life JUNKY at one point in time ,of course this is nothing

sometimes here they will ask you for ID when you pick up controlled drugs... swim stupidly did it a couple times with no problem (with a forged script) but one time something didnt seem right so he said he forgot it and would be back lo and behold next day the pharmacist (different one) said the doc canceled the script which tells me this bitch pharmy called to check what was goin on...

[ZodiacKiller]

We have 2 docs (one for opiate detox/suboxone and our regular primary care doc) and every time we are scripted ANYTHING from them, it's on script pads with the DEA number pre-printed on 'em. The fuckin' number was on there for a script for Singulair, fer chrissakes. There also seems to be a watermark and it's on weird filmy paper (from both docs). I'm thinking if I was good enough to forge those, I'd be good enough to forge 100 dollar bills.

I know you said you didn't wanna hear how it's a bad idea, but you also said your doc was way cool. Well, I consider that a rarity---I'm on my third doc in a year, and she's only kinda cool---the other two were complete cocks. I dunno if I'd wanna risk losing a doc like that. Just my opinion.

ZodiacKiller

[antony]

I didn't want responses that only say "thats risky/dangerous/ et al." I like hearing of past experiences and whether its worth a try. Just once.

I used "et al."

[blackdog]

hey ant,i don't see no problem with any writing comparisons,cause most all my drs have different nurses fillling out the pads and signing the docs name when he aint around.only thing to worrie about is a phone call to verify some info and then it'll be like what scrip dum dum dum dum ....:rolleyes:

[paperrabbit]

that advice to wait until night time is not necessarily the best. Pharmacists and techs KNOW this is when people with fake scripts try to pass them off (trust me) and during this time scripts for controlled meds are under MORE scrutiny than during the daily rush.
It really is up to the pharmacists and techs discretion... some pharmacists are pretty lax with stuff and others are VERY rigid. One pharmacist I know would call the doctors for every controlled script he got...

[Saira Bee]

Attempting and/or obtaining a prescription by fraud is a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison. It's not worth the risk.

[antony]

It never happened

[Zoop]

here is the jist of it , if you can talk her into it they probably wont find its forged till later , just make sure you keep the pills in case she gets grabbed by the script police , can you tell i use to be a wwway low life JUNKY at one point in time ,of course this is nothing

WTF????

Anyways, I have been on both sides of this here issue. (sorry to hear that it never happened, bTW, Antony) I used to be a pharmacist (notneemore, b/c I am a junky and got busted twice in a five year period - new career now for the last five years) so I seen lots of fakes. Worked in retail pharmacy for about six years, both as a tech, and then a few years as a licensed pharmacist. I'd only call the doc for a controlled substance script if something was suspicious. Only if something was suspicious. That is in the daytime rush, and what paperrabitt said is right on. If'n you go to a 24-hour drugstore and try to fill a script for vicodin ES at 2 o'clock in the morning (why not write for something like NORco-10's if you're gonna forge a script? vicodin sucks big time) lookin all junky-like (and believe me they can tell, especially if the pharmacist is a junky like me - and for some reason, sometimes the junky pharmacists are the ones who are going to bust your balls more - something like a self-loathing problem), they are going to know what's up. It's better to try and do it during the lunchtime rush - like when the doc's offices are closed for LUNCH (between 12 and 2 usually) - that's whe scripts are phoned in, usually.

Best deal, by far, however, is the PHONE IN THE PRESCRIPTION (like during lunch hour). I have done this a couple times, and the main thing to remember is to rehearse it, preferably with someone role-playing the pharmacist on the other end of the line - sounds dumb but it WORKS. and dont' forget the DEA number. Have it written down in big letters and numbers so you can rattle it off real fast, just like it's been your DEA number for years and years and you know it by heart. That is the single biggest clue to the people in the drugstore that you are full of shit - when you don't even know your own DEA #!

I like to put on a real stuffy sounding voice, like a deep male voice (try to sound intimidating) and sort of talk down to the pharmacist, like you don't have time to call in these stupid prescriptions. Try to have a sort of bored tone to your voice, like it's taking too long or something - you got lots of other stuff to tend to, as you're a busy physician.

After you're done phoning in the script, call the drugstore after a few minutes and say (in a different-sounding voice), "hey is my prescription ready, my doctor ____ said he'd call it in pretty soon" and if they say yes, come and get it, 99% chance you're cool.

OH, and always do that code that blocks caller ID (I think it's *67, but I could be wrong). A lot of pharmacies have caller ID these days, just like most people have in their homes. So, you don't want your number to come up when it's supposed to be the doctor's office!

Say sometihing like "my patient ___ needs Norco-10/325. dispense 30 tablets please, instructions should read take one tablet P O, every 4 hours P R N pain - no refills"

Yeah, oh, BTW DaOxyMan, "PR' means "per rectum" - UP THE BUTT, in other words. "PO" is what you meant - abbreviation for "per os" meaning "by mouth" in Latin.

[saint john]

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[saint john]

Attempting and/or obtaining a prescription by fraud is a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison. It's not worth the risk.


a felony? up to 5 years in prison? mercy me! land sakes alive! i had no idea! why didn't someone tell me that in 1982 before the honorable judge william bontrager gave me a 4 year sentence in an indiana prison? tee hee.

:D

[Saira Bee]

a felony? up to 5 years in prison? mercy me! land sakes alive! i had no idea! why didn't someone tell me that in 1982 before the honorable judge william bontrager gave me a 4 year sentence in an indiana prison? tee hee.

:D
Hey, no one told me, buddy. :angry-smi

Some people are a$$holes.

[caesee]

many years ago swim was dating a girl that worked as a nurse. After a while he convined her to call in a script for 90 7.5 hydro with 3 refills...when he went to pick them up he was a little scared, but had no problem being as he used a phamracy he had never, and paid cash for the script. After the refills she called again, but she did not call the same pharmacy, and this pharm called the doctor to varify a refill...she did not answer and the nurse said that there was no pantient bye that name and the script was not liget...she found out the next day and let him know, he never went back to try to get the refill fear he would be arrested (he saw this one cops, lol) but there was never any reprocusions for this he avioded that pharmacy chain and still does...she was fired a couple months later for supposedly "stealing" a shit load of samples that were left my rep.

[saint john]

Some people are a$$holes.[/quote]

goodness gracious! what strong language! ;)

[antony]

WTF????

Anyways, I have been on both sides of this here issue. (sorry to hear that it never happened, bTW, Antony) I used to be a pharmacist (notneemore, b/c I am a junky and got busted twice in a five year period - new career now for the last five years) so I seen lots of fakes. Worked in retail pharmacy for about six years, both as a tech, and then a few years as a licensed pharmacist. I'd only call the doc for a controlled substance script if something was suspicious. Only if something was suspicious. That is in the daytime rush, and what paperrabitt said is right on. If'n you go to a 24-hour drugstore and try to fill a script for vicodin ES at 2 o'clock in the morning (why not write for something like NORco-10's if you're gonna forge a script? vicodin sucks big time) lookin all junky-like (and believe me they can tell, especially if the pharmacist is a junky like me - and for some reason, sometimes the junky pharmacists are the ones who are going to bust your balls more - something like a self-loathing problem), they are going to know what's up. It's better to try and do it during the lunchtime rush - like when the doc's offices are closed for LUNCH (between 12 and 2 usually) - that's whe scripts are phoned in, usually.

Best deal, by far, however, is the PHONE IN THE PRESCRIPTION (like during lunch hour). I have done this a couple times, and the main thing to remember is to rehearse it, preferably with someone role-playing the pharmacist on the other end of the line - sounds dumb but it WORKS. and dont' forget the DEA number. Have it written down in big letters and numbers so you can rattle it off real fast, just like it's been your DEA number for years and years and you know it by heart. That is the single biggest clue to the people in the drugstore that you are full of shit - when you don't even know your own DEA #!

I like to put on a real stuffy sounding voice, like a deep male voice (try to sound intimidating) and sort of talk down to the pharmacist, like you don't have time to call in these stupid prescriptions. Try to have a sort of bored tone to your voice, like it's taking too long or something - you got lots of other stuff to tend to, as you're a busy physician.

After you're done phoning in the script, call the drugstore after a few minutes and say (in a different-sounding voice), "hey is my prescription ready, my doctor ____ said he'd call it in pretty soon" and if they say yes, come and get it, 99% chance you're cool.

OH, and always do that code that blocks caller ID (I think it's *67, but I could be wrong). A lot of pharmacies have caller ID these days, just like most people have in their homes. So, you don't want your number to come up when it's supposed to be the doctor's office!

Say sometihing like "my patient ___ needs Norco-10/325. dispense 30 tablets please, instructions should read take one tablet P O, every 4 hours P R N pain - no refills"

Yeah, oh, BTW DaOxyMan, "PR' means "per rectum" - UP THE BUTT, in other words. "PO" is what you meant - abbreviation for "per os" meaning "by mouth" in Latin.




ZOOP WTF? Where were you when I needed you? this fucking thread finally pops off now, after she's given up, and the w/ds are better.

I say "never happend" and this place comes alive like you guys are dissapointed, and wanted to hear what happened, "hey ant, so which ones the mark?"

anyways tho, thats the advice I was looking for Zoop, and thats the best. In my history, I've done some stupid shit that can land me in deeper trouble than 5 years, but knock on wood I always do it smart.

I'm also EXTREMELY handsome, like if George Clooney wass to fake scripts, no one would doubt him. I'm also very charming.

Advice def. worth saving.
Thanks

[shaunclo]

I'm also EXTREMELY handsome, like if George Clooney wass to fake scripts, no one would doubt him. I'm also very charming
Thanks

you too, huh??

[antony]

you too, huh??

Yes.

I shouldn't have said "George Clooney" though. I look nothing like him.


I get compared (at least 10-15 times a day) as a love child of Leo DiCaprio, and Ricky Martin without the homosexual overtones.


So to answer your question shaunclo, I am EXTREMELY HANDSOME.

Just Like you, if not, more so.

Thanks for asking.

[Saira Bee]

Yes.

I shouldn't have said "George Clooney" though. I look nothing like him.


I get compared (at least 10-15 times a day) as a love child of Leo DiCaprio, and Ricky Martin without the homosexual overtones.


So to answer your question shaunclo, I am EXTREMELY HANDSOME.

Just Like you, if not, more so.

Thanks for asking.

Pictures, please? :o

[shaunclo]

Pictures, please? :o

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:3IhKDppGNFcJ:www.gossipnews.it/fotovip/images/george_clooney5.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gossipnews.it/fotovip/images/george_clooney5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gossipnews.it/cgi-bin/gallery/gallery.cgi%3Fn%3D5%26name%3Dgeorge_clooney&h=600&w=438&sz=30&tbnid=3IhKDppGNFcJ:&tbnh=133&tbnw=97&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgeorge%2Bclooney%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D&start=2&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=2)http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:A7KXi0aqoqwJ:www.gossipnews.it/fotovip/images/george_clooney7.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gossipnews.it/fotovip/images/george_clooney7.jpg&imgrefurl=http://genio.virgilio.it/genio/cgi/risposte.cgi%3Fidcan%3D27%26idquest%3D61077&h=401&w=282&sz=23&tbnid=A7KXi0aqoqwJ:&tbnh=119&tbnw=84&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgeorge%2Bclooney%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D&start=3&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=3)

These are recent pics of me, see how closely George Clooney and I look alike

The one on the left is of George, and the one on the right is of me:D

[antony]

Pictures, please? :o
I got a couple sets. First off, are you over 18? Because then it becomes a legality issue.
I've seen shaunclo on numerous occasions, and I know he's coming on hard putting pics of himself without request; thats how he rolls; but on his worst day, thats the guy in the pic.
:D

Heres me when I told a funny joke and I laughed because it was funny. dont ask me the joke cuz i can't remember it
http://www.jaehakim.com/gallery/ed.jpg

[Saira Bee]

I got a couple sets. First off, are you over 18? Because then it becomes a legality issue


Heres me when I told a funny joke and I laughed because it was funny. dont ask me the joke cuz i can't remember it
http://www.jaehakim.com/gallery/ed.jpg
You look sadistic. But handsome, yes. And I like sadistic. :D

And btw, I'm 28. ;)

[Saira Bee]

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:3IhKDppGNFcJ:www.gossipnews.it/fotovip/images/george_clooney5.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gossipnews.it/fotovip/images/george_clooney5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gossipnews.it/cgi-bin/gallery/gallery.cgi%3Fn%3D5%26name%3Dgeorge_clooney&h=600&w=438&sz=30&tbnid=3IhKDppGNFcJ:&tbnh=133&tbnw=97&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgeorge%2Bclooney%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D&start=2&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=2)http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:A7KXi0aqoqwJ:www.gossipnews.it/fotovip/images/george_clooney7.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gossipnews.it/fotovip/images/george_clooney7.jpg&imgrefurl=http://genio.virgilio.it/genio/cgi/risposte.cgi%3Fidcan%3D27%26idquest%3D61077&h=401&w=282&sz=23&tbnid=A7KXi0aqoqwJ:&tbnh=119&tbnw=84&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgeorge%2Bclooney%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D&start=3&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=3)

These are recent pics of me, see how closely George Clooney and I look alike

The one on the left is of George, and the one on the right is of me:D

Hehe, I have a cat named George Clooney. :D

[candyshop]

ooooh-cute cute junkies -i love it!!!

[antony]

ooooh-cute cute junkies -i love it!!!

It's awsome right? Turns me on to look at myself.

oohh antony, yea.;)

[blackdog]

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it's tuff being me!!!!
here some graduation pic's of the blackdog......

[antony]

Looks like a mighty fine day for the dog family. did the runt get to make it?


graduation day....:D


fuck blackdog, make me laugh everytime.

[antony]

btw, does anyone know Ed O'Brien?

[bronyraur]

Speaking from experience it isn't worth it. I used to work for an eye doctor and I swiped half of his Rx pad (in pennsylvania optometrists can write C-III thru C-V opiate scripts). I got away with writing scripts for 30 Vicoprofen at a time, getting them filled at the same pharmacy, until I wrote ONE single thing differently (i wrote "Disp: 30" instead of "#30", like I had been doing) and the pharmacist nailed me on the spot, and called my boss (the doctor). I didn't get arrested, but I lost my job and didn't get any Rx's for controlled substances prescribed to me for at least 2 years.

[Neo]

SWIM due to his job he often goes into homes that have just been foreclosed on. People leave all kinds of shit; he picked up from this one home a radar detector, 50% of a little razor motocycle, a bow, tools, dartboard, skateboard rail... u get the idea. Also a bottle of T3 and Codiclear with a refill. Then called the pharmacy and said he would be there shortly to pick it up (avoiding time for the pharma to research). Waited a week and picked it up no problem, paid cash, and it's a hour away. No problems. It depends on the pharmacy and the pharmacist, how busy are they? They are many variables,,, I don't believe the risk would ever be worth reward. But then, 3 xanies bars down then "FUCK IT".