A moment of terror....

[DrAtomic]

SWIM and his buddy were smoking a little Fent off of the foil (at work of all places) and SWIM's buddy who is much less experienced than SWIM did a hit that was a little too big. Next thing SWIM knows is that his friends lips are blue and his friend no longer has a pulse. Sheer terror gripped SWIM by the balls. All of the first aid stuff SWIM learned in Boy Scouts and life gaurd training cam rushing back. SWIM performed CPR until the short acting Fent wore off enough for his buddy to come around. It only took a minute or two, but it felt like an hour had passed. SWIM was about 10 seconds away from calling 911 when his friend started to cough and come to. SWIM has nobody to vent to about this so SWIM is venting to the forum. If you're new to Fent and you read the stuff people say about being careful...........TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!! This is one of the most dangerous drugs out there. The line between fun and dead is RAZOR thin. Thanks for listening everyone. And thanks to whoever is upstairs for looking out for SWIM and his friend.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

SWIM and his buddy were smoking a little Fent off of the foil (at work of all places) and SWIM's buddy who is much less experienced than SWIM did a hit that was a little too big. Next thing SWIM knows is that his friends lips are blue and his friend no longer has a pulse. Sheer terror gripped SWIM by the balls. All of the first aid stuff SWIM learned in Boy Scouts and life gaurd training cam rushing back. SWIM performed CPR until the short acting Fent wore off enough for his buddy to come around. It only took a minute or two, but it felt like an hour had passed. SWIM was about 10 seconds away from calling 911 when his friend started to cough and come to. SWIM has nobody to vent to about this so SWIM is venting to the forum. If you're new to Fent and you read the stuff people say about being careful...........TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!! This is one of the most dangerous drugs out there. The line between fun and dead is RAZOR thin. Thanks for listening everyone. And thanks to whoever is upstairs for looking out for SWIM and his friend.

Wow, I've always wanted to try fent, I have access. But it's shit like this that scares me. Hell I get off on 50mg of oxy or 60mg of Vicodin, I wouldn't know where to start with fent. Some say a pen drop some so more... Glad SWIM's OK man! Thank God for your training!

[Poppylvr]

SWIM and his buddy were smoking a little Fent off of the foil (at work of all places) and SWIM's buddy who is much less experienced than SWIM did a hit that was a little too big. Next thing SWIM knows is that his friends lips are blue and his friend no longer has a pulse. Sheer terror gripped SWIM by the balls. All of the first aid stuff SWIM learned in Boy Scouts and life gaurd training cam rushing back. SWIM performed CPR until the short acting Fent wore off enough for his buddy to come around. It only took a minute or two, but it felt like an hour had passed. SWIM was about 10 seconds away from calling 911 when his friend started to cough and come to. SWIM has nobody to vent to about this so SWIM is venting to the forum. If you're new to Fent and you read the stuff people say about being careful...........TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!! This is one of the most dangerous drugs out there. The line between fun and dead is RAZOR thin. Thanks for listening everyone. And thanks to whoever is upstairs for looking out for SWIM and his friend.
Holy Fucking Shit!
Thank God for your training...
Excellent reminder for folks about how dangerous Fentanyl can be Be careful out there....

[SeVeN]

Wow, I've always wanted to try fent, I have access. But it's shit like this that scares me. Hell I get off on 50mg of oxy or 60mg of Vicodin, I wouldn't know where to start with fent. Some say a pen drop some so more... Glad SWIM's OK man! Thank God for your training!


Fent is just a whole different game thats all. Always be smart. And yes perhaps staying away is the best choice.

[SHELLEY]

i smoked fent once in my life, one christmas with total strangers
i just finished dinner at a family friends houses
and was outside smoking a cig when 2 HOTT guys walked up
asked me do i want to party? i said whatcha got?
they said we are smoking fentanyl patches, i said never tried it but lets go
did 2 chases (i wasn't using h at the time) and got FUCKED up
then had threesome with the two gorgeous guys and smoked fent laced blunt
good times, good times... :D

[samsong]

I have been smoking fent for about 18 months now--had a similar exerience like your friend more than once. I go through 15 patches in about 7-10 days, in fact I just finished my last one for the month a few minutes ago--20 days until refill. But even after using it for this long, I will each month at least once come very close to the edge, like last night for example. Got really stupid with it.

Was a crackhead before and the short action of the fent and the using behaviors are identical--the problem with smoking fent gel though is that even though the intense euphoria wears off relatively quickly after each hit, there is still plenty of the drug in your system, or so it seems or maybe it just a tolerance issue, but it easy to get fooled into beleiving that you can keep doing monster hit after monster hit with no repurcussions.

This drug has very different effects on different people, don't know why, some of it may be tolerance related but there is probably other more scientific reasons as well. But best bet is to not be using other opiates and defenitely not any benzos, when you are using fent--i think it is too unpredictable just using alone, plus other opiates don't really enhance the euphoria for me and take away some of the euphoria of the fent. Oh, and I do fent all the time at work, very easy to conceal and their is no smell at all. Glad to hear that everyone was fine following this ordeal--humbling experience, isn't it.

Be safe.

[clinton]

what was your coworkers reaction when he came to?
did anyone get suspicious as to what was going on?

[jonny-5]

good job man, u prolly saved your friends life. or swim did i mean. tell swim hes a good dude. i once had to perform rescue breathing on this girl in a park bathroom for 35 minutes, per her request (it was my third time doing heroin, i was smoking she was shooting, told me it was a big shot and if she fell out to do rescue breathing) and it was the scariest shit ever. she had a pulse but her lips were blue and she wasnt breathing...so i breathed for her for over a half an hour and eventually she came to. it was such a fucked up experience but man props to you for doing the right thing.

[OxyContinuously]

i am glad u were able to save ur buddy...man, that is some scary shit, i couldn't even imagine!

also a question: i smoked fent gel once, but i didn;t do it right...long story short, i ended up wasting it with minimal effects.. but my question is, when u do it right, how long does it last? i heard it was pretty short, but are we talking like a half hour? or a few minutes? and after u come down, do u want more more more?

thanks

[KiloByte]

and after u come down, do u want more more more?

No when you come down off Fent you feel completely satisifed with opiates for life. Seriously, what kind of answer are you expecting?

[OxyContinuously]

No when you come down off Fent you feel completely satisifed with opiates for life. Seriously, what kind of answer are you expecting?

dude shut the fuck up, u know what i meant...my point was: is it compulsive like do you crave more right away?

you know what compulsive means, right?

[upstate_007]

dude shut the fuck up, u know what i meant...my point was: is it compulsive like do you crave more right away?

you know what compulsive means, right?

I got you bro. I have never smoked fent myself, but from what others say.......it's the crack of the opi world. I know how the crack jones works with me, so I stay away.

[Boxcar]

man ive been on fent fer years, ive smoked my share, as has my wife. ive had a scare like that before. IT AINT FUCKIN WORTH IT, im not tryin to tell anyone how to live their life. just get the mylans, eliminate the danger, even chewin the mylan peices is a bit dangerous, ive seen friends get sick off a tiny peice, ive had a friend go blue from one of my ACTIQ pops, 800. ITS DANGEROUS SHIT, YOUR LIFE CAN BE GONE IN AN INSTANT. im glad you were able to bring yer friend back. but after my scare, it was no more gel ever.

[KiloByte]

dude shut the fuck up, u know what i meant...my point was: is it compulsive like do you crave more right away?

you know what compulsive means, right?

You've been a member here long enough, do your own research.

You know what research means, right?

[SynthMorph]

The thing that intrigues me with fent is how 1mg of it is equal to 80 mg of morphine. A half kilo could supply a good habit for the rest of your life. Other than that the rush is not really that great when IV'd, almost non existent and very little euphoria in comparison to morphine. Would be neat to have when you don't have anything else or to make some morphine or heroin go further. I heard the WDs are really bad for it too.

[renton]

I remember smoking fent, it's dangerous cause the euphoria is less than other opiates so you don't feel like your taking much, then you suddenly notice it's getting hard to breath:o I was on the fent patch a few weeks and it's pretty bad withdrawals, but pod tea is still worse.

[resorcinol]

I've overdosed on fent. It happened when I went on my fent smoking binge a few months ago.

I don't know how I'm alive. I can't say for sure, but this time I'm talking about (it was a combination overdose), I took around 15 mg lorazepam, drank a mixture of beer and alcopop drinks; around 5 total, and smoked a whole 75 ug/h patch within a few hours, crack style, taking hits every 10 to 20 minutes. Right around when I finished the patch I passed out and didn't wake up until it was dark.... maybe 4 to 6 hours later. NOBODY had checked on me even though I'm sure people were suspicious, so you can't count on that. I was alone in a room by myself. I'm not a big guy either; I'm only 140 lbs.

Fent is less euphoric than the phenanthrene-core opiates (I'd prefer roxicodone pills over an equivalent amount of fent products), but thats offsetted when fent is smoked; it hits the brain and your opiate receptors so quickly that you feel a nice rush and high. Less euphoric is relative - fent is still very euphoric. The high wears off so fast when fent is smoked though... cheeking the mylans (i'm sure you could cheek the gels too if you wanted to) is a more long lasting high, and sustainable addiction.

I'd recommend avoiding fent smoking, but fent isn't really any more serious than other narcotics if sublingual/buccal roas are used. Pod tea withdrawal is just as bad, in my experience.

[soulman]

I like to squeeze the gel out of a little hole I cut in the corner of the patch, and put it all under my tongue, directly into the bloodstream that way!!! Then I open the patch all the way up and roll cigarettes in the remains of the gel still on the patch, every time you have a smoke the next few hours it brings ya back up!!!:D

[Tbird921]

The thing that intrigues me with fent is how 1mg of it is equal to 80 mg of morphine. A half kilo could supply a good habit for the rest of your life. Other than that the rush is not really that great when IV'd, almost non existent and very little euphoria in comparison to morphine. Would be neat to have when you don't have anything else or to make some morphine or heroin go further. I heard the WDs are really bad for it too.
Yea, smoking fent should not be done unless you have a decent tolearnce it's just too strong and hard to measure doseage. I smoked two hits once and after each hit layed on my bed and nodded out for a few mins, it's really powerfull but it's kinda a empty high if that makes sense, it doesn't have the normal warmth and eurphoria of most opies and W/D's are horrible they don't last that long but for the time they do. you feel very shitty/

[Boxcar]

W/D's are horrible they don't last that long but for the time they do. you feel very shitty/

one day is long enuff, but i disagree ive been on fent fer quite sometime, and most ppl on fent are on other BT meds, so withdrawl, at least for me, can be equally as long, the thing with fent tho, is when you run out, there aint nuthin that compares. so you can be takin a buncha percs or norcs but you never feel 100% cuz it just cant touch the fent

[resorcinol]

The thing that intrigues me with fent is how 1mg of it is equal to 80 mg of morphine. A half kilo could supply a good habit for the rest of your life. Other than that the rush is not really that great when IV'd, almost non existent and very little euphoria in comparison to morphine. Would be neat to have when you don't have anything else or to make some morphine or heroin go further. I heard the WDs are really bad for it too.

Fent is an incredibly strong opiate (although we know there are ones that are even phenonminally stonger than fent... fent analogs like carfentanil, sufentanil, etc, bently opioids like etorphine and dihydroetorphine, some esters of oxymorphone).

A competent chemist who was sure of his ability to synthesize fentanyl without making nasty, potentially toxic and/or super strong byproducts or having a lab accident would be able to make enough to supply a lifelong habit easily. They'd also have to be willing to take the risk of facing extremely severe criminal charges if caught; the police would certainly add intent to distribute to the charges of manufacture and possession even if the chemist was truly only making a lifelong personal stash. This is especially true due to the add on as many charges as possible no matter how much it's splitting at haris attitude that's pretty prevalent among LE agents. It's a really corrupt attitude - makes me sick.

It'd make more sense for a chemist to synth something like 14-cinnamyl-3-acetyl-oxymorphone, fentanyl, 3-methylfentanyl, or other opiates in that 50 to 1000x the potency of morphine range.

Anything weaker requires greater qty of precursor reagents and makes the synthesis process more cumbersome because of the amount of material being used. Synths like heroin that are easily done from poppy extract are an exception because most of the work is already done for you by nature.

Anything stronger would be just downright dangerous to work with both during the synthesis and when dosing. The synthesis would actually be more dangerous though; dosing can be done very accurately by dissolution of a known measurable qty in water, and then measuring out a very small qty of the solution. During the synthesis though, if application of heat is required at any time, some of the super opiate could evaporate into the air - or you could spill super opiate solution on your hands. Either of these accidents could cause fatal overdose.

I wouldn't take the risk of synthesizing any opiates.

[SynthMorph]

Oxymorphone is relatively easy to make if you have a good hydrogenation apparatus. I wouldn't mind making some acetyloxymorphone 25x stronger than morphine and I bet just as euphoric or even more so than heroin.

[jonny-5]

Oxymorphone is relatively easy to make if you have a good hydrogenation apparatus. I wouldn't mind making some acetyloxymorphone 25x stronger than morphine and I bet just as euphoric or even more so than heroin.

im on my way to your house with my apparatus.

[SynthMorph]

im on my way to your house with my apparatus.

Those things are expenisve, remember to bring the tank of hydrogen gas as well.

[DrAtomic]

Thanks for all of the replies. SWIMs buddy is OK and doing fine. I would like to say he learned his lesson, but who knows right? Sorry for nor posting back real quick, but I have been up in Indy for the Moto GP bike race this past weekend. Thanks again for all of the good thoughts. Stay safe everybody.

Dr. A

[jonny-5]

Those things are expenisve, remember to bring the tank of hydrogen gas as well.


i keep one in my trunk at all times.

[born2lose]

wow, glad to hear swims friend is OK. similar thing happened to my boy right in front of me, i'm trained in CPR but fortunately he was revived with some light smacking of the face and ice packs. shit is scary - be careful

[ndoftaworld]

I don't think I did it right... I placed the blob (pretty good sized too) on the foil, and lit it, didn't see or taste anything, but the foil turned black and when I exhaled I had a pleasant taste in my mouth. Didn't do shit for a buzz tho... hmm, wonder what I did wrong?

Ah, fuck it. I went through 3 patches in 2 days (wearing one), and I'm not jonesing to smoke more. I might get bored and try again sometime, but shit they're actually sticking and staying put for me. Must be a sign to just wear them :rolleyes:

Nd

[allover]

I saw this posted in a bluelight thread once and thought it was the funnies thing ever.

"Oxygen, airway control, and Narcan are what will save the person's life.
Shaking them, freaking out,stealing their dope, leaving them under a garbage can, or crying alot, will NOT help them"

Glad your friend made it, I've got nothing else....

[ndoftaworld]

I saw this posted in a bluelight thread once and thought it was the funnies thing ever.

"Oxygen, airway control, and Narcan are what will save the person's life.
Shaking them, freaking out,stealing their dope, leaving them under a garbage can, or crying alot, will NOT help them"

Glad your friend made it, I've got nothing else....

Fuck narcan, I'll tale CPR from a 20 year H vet, not knowing their needle usage history (share or not too share), before I let the fucking quacks @ a hospital IV me that shit. No fuckin' THANK YOU!

Nd

[RobotJones]

Fuck narcan, I'll tale CPR from a 20 year H vet, not knowing their needle usage history (share or not too share), before I let the fucking quacks @ a hospital IV me that shit. No fuckin' THANK YOU!

Nd
Hear! Hear!
my biggest fear in life, however irrational, is waking up to narcan even one more time. i know most of you think i'm a nutcase for thinking this way, (the proof is in an old thread, UTSE) but i haven't been able to think of a bigger fear.

[KiloByte]

Hear! Hear!
my biggest fear in life, however irrational, is waking up to narcan even one more time. i know most of you think i'm a nutcase for thinking this way, (the proof is in an old thread, UTSE) but i haven't been able to think of a bigger fear.

What about not waking up to narcan?

[ndoftaworld]

I've seriously thought about. And if, not by being stupid, but because I was completley trying to kill the pain, and had an 'accident' I told a trusted family to let me go. The final option for my condition is another surgery, and I can't handle the thought of being even MORE fucked up.

EDIT: Sry, for the edits. Connection kinda fucked up on me.

Nd

[jonny-5]

Fuck narcan, I'll talk CPR from a 20 year H vet, not knowing their needle usage history (share or not too share), before I let the fucking quacks @ a hospital IV me that shit. No fuckin' THANK YOU!

Nd


as long as there is a pulse all that is required is rescue breathing until the person comes to. i have saved a girls life this way and have friends that have done the same. i personally wouldnt call 911 unless there was no pulse but its a judgment call you have to make. if you dont call 911 and the person dies that shit is on your conscience for ever.

but like i say if they have a pulse you can breathe for them until they can do so themselves and everything will be cool.

[ndoftaworld]

as long as there is a pulse all that is required is rescue breathing until the person comes to. i have saved a girls life this way and have friends that have done the same. i personally wouldnt call 911 unless there was no pulse but its a judgment call you have to make. if you dont call 911 and the person dies that shit is on your conscience for ever.

but like i say if they have a pulse you can breathe for them until they can do so themselves and everything will be cool.

The person I was living with freaked out when she couldn't shake my foot awake and called EMS. That's the only fucking reason I was given it. I fucking hate that 'flushed' feeling you get... instant W/D's.

Nd

[poonwhalla]

as long as there is a pulse all that is required is rescue breathing until the person comes to. i have saved a girls life this way and have friends that have done the same. i personally wouldnt call 911 unless there was no pulse but its a judgment call you have to make. if you dont call 911 and the person dies that shit is on your conscience for ever.

but like i say if they have a pulse you can breathe for them until they can do so themselves and everything will be cool.

If you are with the person and they are not breathing and you know CPR then this could work. I have seen this happen a few times when it has worked. On the other hand if you don't know how to administer rescue breathing then call the paramedics and get rid of the shit.

If you walk into someone and they are blue I would recommend calling 911 because you don't know the circumstances. Take me for example, my lungs were 70% filled with vomit I breathed in from nodding out off of creeper tar. Now I could have been revived and I probably would have went to sleep and taken the foreva dirt nap.

The moral of the story is learn some CPR, and when in doubt call the paramedics people. You don't have to say anything about any dope or whatever but tell them your friend is not breathing and do your best to get them back to life and get anything illegal out of sight!

[jonny-5]

^^ right what i said assumes that the person knows rescue breathing and was there during the incident.

[More Feen]

The thing that intrigues me with fent is how 1mg of it is equal to 80 mg of morphine. A half kilo could supply a good habit for the rest of your life. Other than that the rush is not really that great when IV'd, almost non existent and very little euphoria in comparison to morphine. Would be neat to have when you don't have anything else or to make some morphine or heroin go further. I heard the WDs are really bad for it too.

I've said this before, I'll say it again:

Fentanyl is so powerful that it seems to blot-out its own euphoria.

This could trick someone into taking more of it in their next hit.

It is dangerous as hell, and not really worth the risk.

If you're in pain, it will help aleviate that pain. If you're simply playing around with it, have someone with you who knows how to rescue breathe.

MF

[Tbird921]

man ive been on fent fer years, ive smoked my share, as has my wife. ive had a scare like that before. IT AINT FUCKIN WORTH IT, im not tryin to tell anyone how to live their life. just get the mylans, eliminate the danger, even chewin the mylan peices is a bit dangerous, ive seen friends get sick off a tiny peice, ive had a friend go blue from one of my ACTIQ pops, 800. ITS DANGEROUS SHIT, YOUR LIFE CAN BE GONE IN AN INSTANT. im glad you were able to bring yer friend back. but after my scare, it was no more gel ever.



Yea fent can be scary, I've only smoked it once had a good enough tolerance at the time so it didn't matter, but I've came really close to going out on just chewing the mylan patches, struggling to breath, vomitting repeatly, blurred vision, scary stuff.

[nogoslo]

Great. I think its time to inhale some instos.