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clinton
09-09-2008, 06:58 AM
im surprised that this is sold so openly at grocers/markets
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Flower City gets strange whiff
Thursday August 28 2008
By VICKY DHILLON
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Email this article Brampton is known as the Flower City. But we cannot afford poppy flowers, which would prove too heady an opiate.
Most people are aware that morphine is a controlled substance, and that in in its common form of opium it is an illegal drug. Most people are also aware that opium is derived from a variety of the poppy flower.

The powder of the poppy flower has for several years now been proving very popular in the City Of Brampton. Poppy flower powder is available in a number of meat shops and flea markets. Various outlets are openly selling poppy flowers to our children, at an eminently affordable price of $10 for 10 grams- and just two tablespoons of this powder, swallowed with a glass of water, is enough to make a person super hyper.

Poppy powder contains codeine and morphine. It has been popular with drivers, but is now spreading to our children.

I quote here from respected local news channels: "Especially taxi drivers and truck drivers are addicted to this legal drug, but now this drug is spreading into local high schools. Children involved in this not only miss out on their education, but are also vulnerable to drug addiction. The issue of 'poppy flower powder' is a serious problem."

Says Dr. Steven Black of Malton Medical Group: "The symptoms are the same as opium and, if you took what these guys are taking, you will probably die. It's very difficult to get off."

Our federal, provincial and municipal governments as well as our by-law enforcement agencies are very well aware that poppy powder contains opium, and that it is legal to sell it on the streets of Brampton.

Canadian law currently bans unlicensed use of opium and marijuana, so the overwhelming question remains: Why should the sale poppy powder- which contains morphine and codeine- be legal?

Users of poppy flower powder after extended use will find themselves becoming a burden on Canada's health care system. I have discovered that local meat shops in Brampton are also mixing some additional chemicals into the poppy powder to make it even stronger and more potent.

Even as we speak, out taxpayer's money is now going towards users' drug rehabilitation. Why would taxpayers knowingly want to pay for the health care of people who are deliberately harming themselves? Health Canada is potentially in for a rude awakening, when in time it finds it is spending millions of dollars on a new epidemic.

I also do not understand why our local meat shops are selling poppy flower powder- the City of Brampton licenses them to sell meat products, not flower products. Some meat shops are even believed to have set up heavy-duty grinders to grind the dried poppy flowers.

In these circumstances, would it not be reasonable to empower our Region of Peel inspectors to assist our community in monitoring and deterring these local shops from producing, selling and poisoning our children?

The challenge facing us now is to raise more awareness, help our community and support our children in making the healthy choices.

- Vicky Dhillon is City Councillor, Wards 9&10, Brampton


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upstate_007
09-09-2008, 07:59 AM
There were a lot of stupid remarks in there about morphine, opium, poppy, etc...

But fuck all that right now. Where the hell is this town and how do I get there??

pharmboy
09-09-2008, 10:03 AM
Meat shops,? Hyper,? Taxi drivers ? What the fuck is this BITCH on ?

rockbottom
09-09-2008, 10:10 AM
fucking Canada-too bad i have a :rolleyes: felony

Boxcar
09-09-2008, 10:36 AM
that article was so fulla bullshit, i doubt it to be true. she doesnt have the slightest clue of what shes talkin about. id like someone from up there to check it out and report back. would that be legal for shops to sell here? i mean pod vendors, could they sell grounds. i guess not, since it is all for "floral arangements and arts n crafts".

red26
09-09-2008, 11:10 AM
Meat shops,? Hyper,? Taxi drivers ? What the fuck is this BITCH on ? HAH! My thought exactly. HYPER???? ummm if the symptom of this really is hyper activity they're putting in something else in a big way. Reguardless its bad press/publicity.

nick
09-09-2008, 04:02 PM
Worrying,there's been more than one story about pod powder in Canada.This is how media witch hunts start.

norseman
09-09-2008, 09:51 PM
I live a close to Brampton and I never realized this was going on till about a month ago when a local news channel did a report on it. I am pretty sure most of the shops selling the powder are East Indian grocers and from what I gather it is just ground up pods. I wonder what this "other" chemical is that they are putting into it?

Its good to know that if I need it, it is there for me :-) Not to make any of my friends from the south jelous.

But it being sold openly like this up here isn't good for anyone, too much attention, and now that "kids" are getting there hands on it, I am sure there are going to be more media reports.

sad day in poppyland :-(

Narkotikon
09-10-2008, 12:16 AM
I'm pissed from reading this, but not for the same reasons. It was because I was thinking they started selling poppy powder in stores in the states. Then I realized this was in Canada. Fucking Canada. It's just not fair.

But, other than that, who else thought this lady was some disgruntled soccer mom whose mission is to save the youth of Canada? She sounded like a little old lady sitting around a quilting circle gossiping. How the hell does she know some meat stores bought industrial grinders just for pods? Wouldn't it be more likely that they bought the grinders to grind meat for sausage or something? Idiots. The world has too many of them and I hate having to live with them.

Anyway, the other main question I have is why would meat stores / butchers sell this stuff? Are they marketing it as a meat tenderizer? I knew that Indian grocers in Canada were selling it as dodda or whatever it's called, because there was a thread on here a few weeks ago about that. I'm assuming it's the same thing, but meat stores? And what's this bitch got to worry about? It sounds to me like it's re-election time, and she's just trying to appear righteous for votes. I'd be more worried about kids doing E or meth before I'd be worried about them doing pods.

clinton
09-10-2008, 01:22 AM
ive been doing some research looking into old ny times, globes etc on poppy and poppy tea..
im surprised to see that there was quite a problem in the 1st decade of the 1900s with mothers and midwives giving children poppy pod and poppy seed tea as a means to sedate them.............................................. .................................................. ........................

Drank Poppy Seed Tea and Died
John Keane, seventeen months old died yesterday afternoon at 213 E. 40th street
under peculiar circumstances. The child was taken ill yesterday morning and his mother sent for Mrs. Berker a midwife of 514 E. 17th street. Mrs. Berker recommended that a tea be prepared of poppy seed.Mrs. Keane says that immediately after taking the tea the child's condition became worse and he died soon afterward.An investigation will be made by the Coroner.Mrs. Berger is under arrest.

NY TIMES April 4th, 1897

Papa Verine
09-10-2008, 11:25 AM
I have a friend from Poland who's about 45 years old. He said it was very common for mothers to give their crying babies a fresh poppy pod to chew on, to calm them down.

I used to buy all my poppy seeds at a Polish deli. Once a very old woman walked in just as I was buying several pounds of poppy seed and she made a comment to the cashier in Polish. I asked the cashier what she said and the old woman apparently knew exactly what I was doing with all those seeds.

I think this has been going on for a long, long time in some places.

chopstix
09-10-2008, 02:59 PM
I think this has been going on for a long, long time in some places.

Yeah, like 10-12,000 years.