mexico..

[caesee]

So how last night after drinking for a couple hours, I ended up in TJ with some freinds. TJ has changed since the last time I have been there...Before you cross you are carded, and there is very heavy military presence at the id checkpoint (before you go into Mexico, not the way back)...down Revulotion there is burger king, wendys, they are tryng to sell beers for 4$ what happen to 1$ a beer..Went to my favorite pharmacy to see what was around...no vals,xaxies,...soma same price I ususally pay $150 for 1000 watson brand, oxys 40mg $30 each, 80mg $60 each, ms-conitn 30mg 10 tabs..100$..I asked hin why the prices were rasied so high and he replied "we know the prices now, you guys (americans) cannt rip us off aymore"..Now who the fuck told him?!? We we crossed at 5am this morning at boarder patrol was busy fucking some drunk girls, so they waved u right threw...which really pissed me off cause we didnt bring any pills back , but we did we meat some girls from san diego thats a anotuher long story, but it had a happy ending..;)

[antony]

I've never seen oxys on the street, but I know how much they go for...you can thank the media for the info. Plus, probably some dumb kid walked in saw 80mg oxys for whatever price they were in the pharm, and went "holy shit, I have to pay $50 on a good day." Thats how.

[caesee]

I've never seen oxys on the street, but I know how much they go for...you can thank the media for the info. Plus, probably some dumb kid walked in saw 80mg oxys for whatever price they were in the pharm, and went "holy shit, I have to pay $50 on a good day." Thats how.

yeah properly what happened..when i was younger I would grap a couple when down there..the 40s were 10 each and the 80s were 17$ each..memories

[ontario_opiophile]

I'm not American, and I don't hate Mexicans, but....I watch the American news and it really pissed me off to see a bunch of undocumented and documented Mexicans out in the streets of America waving around Mexican flags like it was their own fucking country. That really pisses me off. Why the fuck can't they just get into the country like a Chinese person or a Japanese person or a person from South Africa or Ukraine? It's not fair to let all these people in. It's illegal and wrong and you guys should just give the ones who are here amnesty unless they are criminals and you should just send the criminals back and just close the southern border and stop letting these damn people in!!!! It's time for other people to have a chance too, not just mexican people. I say just give the 12 million illegals Amnesty and treat those who try to come in like shit and make them not want to ever come back again. More border guards and security. electric fences would be good too.. Immigration is a good thing, but it's not a good thing when they start taking over America and waving Mexican shit flags in your streets. They are so uncivilized and obviously have no respect for the laws of America. I understand people are suffering, but people suffer in other countries too and they wait years to get into America the proper way. Maybe the American government should tell Mexico to stop letting its citizens and central american citizens into America. The Mexican leader Vincente Fox doesn't even think he should have to stop his citizens from crossing into America. He thinks it's a good thing and they should be permitted to do it. YET, HE USES TONS OF RESOURCES AND POLICE/MILITARY TO GUARD THE SOUTHERN PART OF MEXICO THAT BORDERS THE CENTRAL AMERICAN COUNTRIES LIKE HONDURAS, NICARAGUA, GUATEMALA etc.

So basically Mexico doesn't want people from Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, Panama and South America coming up through Mexico's border. But It's okay for Mexico's citizens to infiltrate the United States border? Uhhh Does anyone else see anything wrong with that. That's so ridiculous.

There are already 12 million illegal aliens in America, Most of them are Mexican or Central American. I think it's time that someone does something. I'm not racist and I don't care if anyone thinks I am but I just see something wrong with the fact that Americans are taugh spanish and waste so much money trying to make life easier for hispanic people who are in America. I wouldn't want to pay for these people. These illegal hispanic immigrants say ohhh look we do jobs and pay taxes. Guess how much tax money is made by these 12 million illegal aliens in total.....SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS!!! NOw GUESS HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO HAVE THEM IN AMERICA EVERY YEAR!!! TWO HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!! The 7 billion they pay in tax and little things like that does not offset the 200 billion dollars they cost you. I find that to be just so dumb. I welcome people to my country if they go through legal channels. I welcome black white brown yellow, purple, pink whatever. Multiculturalism is what makes nations strong. I'm all for it, but I think the amount of people who come in need to be controlled so you don't end up living in a country with a minority of true Americans and a majority of hispanic immigrants controlling everything.

Most of these so called "hispanics" aren't even descended from spain. So i don't even know why I call them that. They aren't true bonafide spaniards. They are mixed with native american cultures. A minority of the people in Mexico are actually descendants of spanish people. Their whole identity is b.s. Mexico was a country of native people that got taken over by real spanish people and they were all converted to Catholism and forced to learn spanish. Mexicans and Central Americans alike are not even mostly spanish. Anyways, I'm done with my rant. It just drives me nuts. How would you feel if 12-13 million Chinese people came over on boats in a huge flood and then marched through the streets with communist china's flag and tried to show the original citizens of this country that they were taking over and that they were in control. NO ONE would stand for that kind of behaviour. I'm surprised Americans havent revolted and done something major to get rid of at least some of these people. If the government deported the ones that were criminals and kept the ones who worked hard and paid taxes and take care of their family I would be overjoyed and welcome them with open arms but it's certainly not that way right now. No matter what they say, the tiny amount they inject into the economy doesn't make up for 200billion they suck out. The Mexican government needs to stop their people from running away to america. They need to provide more jobs and raise wages and start giving out more social welfare. Instead of this war in Iraq, the United States and it's allies should have invested that money in Border Patrol guards and techonology to protect the border from smuggler/alien/freeloaders. And they should have invested some money into bettering the standard of living in mexico, like giving out money to families or somethign to stop them from coming up to us. Or creating factories and paying wages that are on par with american wages. There is alot of things the U.S and Canada and Mexico could do to make life better for these people in their own countries. Oh well thats my rant. Night everyone sorry for the novel. I'll probably get a bunch of flak for this but it just really upset me when I saw droves of illegals/legals waving Mexican flags all over American cities. Illegal immigration is a slap in the face to anyone who is trying to get here legally and honestly. It's a punch in the gut to all the families who are trying to immigrate to the United States right now, and i'll guarantee you they are just as or more deserving than these illegals. What about some poor Afghan family who suffered for their entire lives in a country that makes Mexico look like Paradise? They probably put in their applications and get denied over and over or are told to wait years before being reconsidered and some f-ing jerk "hispanic" is jumpin over the fence and running into america and then dumping his garbage on the side of the highway and hitching a ride with the smuggler into a city near you. Fuck this pisses me off. I need a valium. The only decent thing they bring into the country is their shitty tar wannabe Heroin which is probably 6mam 99% of the time. God i'm angry. I hope you all dont hate me now.

[poonwhalla]

I think you need to see where you great great grandparents came from or deeper than that. So a line in the border makes us americans canadians or mexicans?? Get pissed off but don't blame others. arn't you guy's on queen's land? No hate but it is all in the same spectrum whatever H you get in Canada are you pissed at them for blah blah whoof whoof? All I am saying is its easy to point the finger and how many guards are on that north border??? hmmm I guess we all look the same too.

[Paregoric Kid]

don't go to the tourist cities for drugs in Mexico.

[Opiyum]

I havent been down for a while and I dont know if this is still true or not but are all the Oc's that come from Mexico still stamped with EX instead of OC. Why do they stamp them differently?

I would think they dont have the facilities to manufacture their own so is that the US labs stamping them with the EX for the intended purpose of those ones to go to Americas Ballsack.

Good advice Paregoric...if you want the good stuff go to where it looks the shadiest....same holds true for stampers in the ghettos.

[devilsdrug]

EX for export , ? fuk i dont really know

[caesee]

yes before the Purdue wharehouse got robbed (in mexico) they where stamped with ex...once the wharehouse was hit they stopped stamping them different, and stopped exporting to mexico....the ones they have now are stamped with OC cause they are imported from us now


( The drug's manufacturer, Purdue Pharma, said it stopped producing OxyContin in Mexico in 2001 after a large warehouse full of pills was robbed. )

[caesee]

The potential for OxyContin shipped to Mexico to be diverted to illicit markets in the United States, prompted Purdue Pharma L.P. to restrict shipments of certain dosage strengths, and change the indicium on tablets destined for the Mexican market. Now tablets have an “EX” stamped on one side instead of the traditional “OC.” The indicium was changed to help identify tablets seized in the United States that are diverted from Mexico. In December 2001, Purdue Pharma L.P. suspended all shipments of OxyContin to Mexico indefinitely after a large amount was stolen from a Mexican wholesaler.




http://police.byu.edu/community%20education/drugalert/pills.jpg

[exitwound]

WTF....no 80's in Mexico? sigh.

[Opiyum]

The potential for OxyContin shipped to Mexico to be diverted to illicit markets in the United States, prompted Purdue Pharma L.P. to restrict shipments of certain dosage strengths, and change the indicium on tablets destined for the Mexican market. Now tablets have an “EX” stamped on one side instead of the traditional “OC.” The indicium was changed to help identify tablets seized in the United States that are diverted from Mexico. In December 2001, Purdue Pharma L.P. suspended all shipments of OxyContin to Mexico indefinitely after a large amount was stolen from a Mexican wholesaler.


This got me to wondering whether or not our friends north of the border in Canada have ever seen OC'S with the EX stamped on them instead of the OC. I dont know if that would be suprising or not but it seems like a lot of work crossing two borders and all. So to all our Canadian 'philes how aboot it eh? Have you seen the the stamp EX on your pills before cause if so know that they traveled along way to get there.

Oooh even more farfetched how about over sea's. Northern Ireland? Chad? Germany?

To all you Canadian's Trailer Park Boys is awesome. Is that show still running?

[ontario_opiophile]

I've never seen an Oxycontin wtih EX on it. I haven't seen any extended release Oxy's in general. Mostly instant. But i know they are out there.

[dissident]

i was buying probably an average of 4 or 5 80's a day off the street in california from 2002-2004, and i never saw one stamped with EX. in the summer of 2004 i started to see alot of the football shaped ones tho

[caesee]

i was buying probably an average of 4 or 5 80's a day off the street in california from 2002-2004, and i never saw one stamped with EX. in the summer of 2004 i started to see alot of the football shaped ones tho

they stopped stamping them with ex in 2001, and there are no 80's stamped with ex, being as they are not avablie in that strenght in mexico..I have only seen 20's stamped with ex

[caesee]

ending up back in tj tongiht, some how. I got ARRESTED IN MEXICO...I had to bribe the fucken cop $100..urrrrr 3:45am...stupid fucken bullshit..:mad:

[skeletontea]

How the hell do you get arrested in Mexico? Granted I haven't been there in over a decade. I'm glad you were able to bribe the cop (at least some things never change).

Do you feel like sharing the details? Because I'm curious.

[devilsdrug]

sorry to ask this ? twice but was the arrest related to procuring the compounds mentioned on other thread

[caesee]

no devil not do with opaites, those were eaten before we crossed the boarder;)

Went down there for a buddys birthday, with around 15-20 people. Went bar hopping, lots and lots of drinks, One club we were there happened to be some ganger ass idiots. They decided to try to fuck with me thinking I was alone, and I guess it had to be the tattos and shaved head might of had a little bit to do with it. (I have full double sleeves inked) After about 30 minutes of them talking shit I went outside and one of them took a drunkin shot at me, so I started to beat the shit out of him and his freind. A couple of my boys came out and we were stomping the shit out of them on Revolution. The federales came just as the rest of the group came out, and they didnt know they were cops, so they got pushed to groud and got hit 1 time. Then about 30-40 cops came and cuffed as all, and pounded the shit out of our kidneys and they beat the shit out of my boy whom hit one of them. The put us in a wagon and stopped (at least one person understood of we would have been fucked) jail or cash, they asked. We each gave them $100, so they ened up with about $1500-2k, evryone was arrested even the 5 or so people that was with us but watched. So they took us to the boarder, walked us to the front of the line and said "your not welocome in mexico"...So we almost eneded up in a mexican jail which will would have been a living hell! we were lucky the federales did not rob us then take us to jail...no more mexico triips for a very long time, or at least never to tj

[Opiyum]

I wouldnt be suprised if ole' el diablo in blue and white had a good story that takes place in a mexican jail... ... Turkish?

[devilsdrug]

that is all fukked up but a great story anyway , ive only been to mexico once, dont live close enough, but i have been escorted to the border before that was of a county in ohio , long story some other time.

[finch]

OK, so what's the verdict lately.
Can Swim or whoever still get OC's, or MS Conitn in Mexico border towns excluding TJ? What about Juarez?ANy one???? What is the usual or latest prices you have seen??


Thanks!
Might be passing through that area soon!

F:rolleyes:

[skeletontea]

Wow caesee, that's completely insane. I was told that I wasn't welcome back in a Fred Meyer grocery store when I was 14, but they eventually forgot. And since Fred Meyer's is basically run like a third world country (i.e. Mexico), you should be fine. ;) You and your pals at least ok healthwise? It sounds like things got pretty serious.

My only story is at the age of 10 at the beginning of the 90's my mom's VW needed new seat covers, so down to mexico we went. Men offered me free batman candy from the 70's with adam west on it, one gentileman tried to sell my mother nunchaku, and I saw my first dead guy(?), unbreathing, his head hanging in the gutter.

[caesee]

OK, so what's the verdict lately.
Can Swim or whoever still get OC's, or MS Conitn in Mexico border towns excluding TJ? What about Juarez?ANy one???? What is the usual or latest prices you have seen??


Thanks!
Might be passing through that area soon!

F:rolleyes:

yo finch you still fucking stifflers mom?:D :D ;)

read my first post on this thread.... you can if you want to pay for them, 60$ for 80mg oc. As pk said dont go to boarder towns to buy drugs....go deeper into mexico.

[finch]

Ok, I got that part. "go deeper into to Mexico". Well I used to live in the Geographic center of Mexico (San Miguel). How deep are we talking? So as you go further in with your experience, how did you see the prices drop? Or are you basing your assumption that if they are expensive at the Border town (tj), then therefore they MUST be cheaper further in? Or.....do you aactually have experience of going in deeper to buy. And When I talk about Mexico, I don't mean that Baja expat area.

Thanks for all the tips guys!

F:)

[caesee]

Ok, I got that part. "go deeper into to Mexico". Well I used to live in the Geographic center of Mexico (San Miguel). How deep are we talking? So as you go further in with your experience, how did you see the prices drop? Or are you basing your assumption that if they are expensive at the Border town (tj), then therefore they MUST be cheaper further in? Or.....do you aactually have experience of going in deeper to buy. And When I talk about Mexico, I don't mean that Baja expat area.

Thanks for all the tips guys!

F:)


not boarder towns, tj, nogales, ect...you are going to pay "toursit" prices, the go ol'mark up. Yes I have been into mexico many, many times and away from the boarder towns the prices are allot cheaper depending on the phram, and what you are buying. One pharm I know that is about 40mins from tj sells 40mg oxy for 25$ each, if you buy 100 pills they are 10$ each...and you can haggle for better prices or go from pharm to pharm. The boarder @ the tj crossing is a bitch, secutriy is very very tight..so be careful what you take with you...

[caesee]

Wow caesee, that's completely insane. I was told that I wasn't welcome back in a Fred Meyer grocery store when I was 14, but they eventually forgot. And since Fred Meyer's is basically run like a third world country (i.e. Mexico), you should be fine. ;) You and your pals at least ok healthwise? It sounds like things got pretty serious.

My only story is at the age of 10 at the beginning of the 90's my mom's VW needed new seat covers, so down to mexico we went. Men offered me free batman candy from the 70's with adam west on it, one gentileman tried to sell my mother nunchaku, and I saw my first dead guy(?), unbreathing, his head hanging in the gutter.

i was pissing blood the next day i took about 7-8 fists or foots in the kindys...my boy whom hit the federale was pretty bruised up..they worked his face good. But the guys i orgainly was fighting one of them seemed knocked out when we were taken away..i got a couple nice kicks to the head on him..:rolleyes: