Shooting THC.

[nick]

Surreal man!!

http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2008/08/mainlining_the_activ.html

[SurfRat]

Does that mean the Cannabidiol doesn't get you high at all?

I think I need extra Cannabidiol.


I hadn't thought of shooting it. Seems like it'd be hard to filter..

[nick]

Does that mean the Cannabidiol doesn't get you high at all?

I think I need extra Cannabidiol.


I hadn't thought of shooting it. Seems like it'd be hard to filter..


I'll swap you my cannabidiol for your THC.

[SurfRat]

I'll swap you my cannabidiol for your THC.

OH JESUS!!

Not here man are you crazy!!!

[nick]

OH JESUS!!

Not here man are you crazy!!!

Very,it's all the THC.

[jonny-5]

wow thats a pretty cool article. from now on when i buy weed im gonna ask the dealer about cannabidiol content.

[bored in sofl]

I've thought of shooting it but it just sounds like a bad Ideal. but if you could how would you do it

[HMMM...]

I know what it means about the paranoid psycosis part of smoking kush. I used to be the
biggest pot head in highschool. Had the $500 bong, bought only kush and shit like that.
Nowadays I can't smoke a bowl without being all paranoid and sitting in my room thinking
all night. Weird how bud affects me differently now. I wish I could sit back and smoke a
bowl and relax but it just aint happenin.

[clinton]

happened to me as well, for two years i smoke daily, at least a quarter..
paranoia eventually took over, i still cant smoke w/o getting paranoid....eh....

[SeVeN]

LoL I saw this the other day. Good shit. And like HMMM said it is so wierd how I went from smoking tons to where now I can hardly tolerate it. I have bud coming tommorow but Im going to do it in the right setting and Im going to eat a very small amount. I've found that that has worked better for me recently.

[marshalldylan1]

My mom tells me her first husband use to shoot up "THC"

At least that's what he told her. She's pretty naive when it comes to drugs, so I'm willing to bet it was heroin or coke and he just told her that.

[SHELLEY]

wow thats a pretty cool article. from now on when i buy weed im gonna ask the dealer about cannabidiol content.

fifty bux says he looks at you weird and says some cuss word
before selling you the same bag for the same price :)

[Indy]

That's if your 'man' is a stand-up joe. If not, he'll say "what? huh? uh....i mean....OH yeah you wanted the stuff with the high canadabol[sic]! yeah, i got that right here! [reaches into the same pocket he got the other shit from] yeah here you go. it's twice as much"

[SHELLEY]

That's if your 'man' is a stand-up joe. If not, he'll say "what? huh? uh....i mean....OH yeah you wanted the stuff with the high canadabol[sic]! yeah, i got that right here! [reaches into the same pocket he got the other shit from] yeah here you go. it's twice as much"


hah! i stand corrected!:)
that's more likely what would happen

[Nate]

I want THC ampoules!

Ill stick to smoking, and if I want a realy trip Ill make some pot butter.

Interesting article.

[robojunkie]

You're all wacked on PCP, tetrahydrocannibinol is an OIL, completely water insoluble, and it is NOT an alkaloid so you can not make a salt out of it. I suppose were one that driven to be a 69th degree psychonaut it could be banged "neat" with a big drawback and push, but why bother? Just fucking smoke the shite!!! Or vaporize it!!!

BTW you can all have both, pot hasn't been a good friend to me in 15 years!

PARANOIA!!!

[Chicago]

that was some funny shit......& it would happen like that if u were buying off the streets & did not no them.

Dayumm that is how it would go down.:D



That's if your 'man' is a stand-up joe. If not, he'll say "what? huh? uh....i mean....OH yeah you wanted the stuff with the high canadabol[sic]! yeah, i got that right here! [reaches into the same pocket he got the other shit from] yeah here you go. it's twice as much"

[Mayo]

You're all wacked on PCP, tetrahydrocannibinol is an OIL, completely water insoluble, and it is NOT an alkaloid so you can not make a salt out of it. I suppose were one that driven to be a 69th degree psychonaut it could be banged "neat" with a big drawback and push, but why bother? Just fucking smoke the shite!!! Or vaporize it!!!

BTW you can all have both, pot hasn't been a good friend to me in 15 years!

PARANOIA!!!

Same here, can't smoke it now.
As a chemist, I'm sure you know it can be emulsified and highly diluted so it doesn't separate -- precip out and embolise like a solid.
(a polysorbate may be good?) No way in hell would I shoot it straight (neat).

The vid was funny as hell, the laughing part reminded me of my first few times.

[bigNasty]

The vid was funny as hell, the laughing part reminded me of my first few times.
That video is funny, I don't smoke pot anymore but i wanna smoke a bowl after watching her giggle for no reason whatsoever

[monkeyphunk]

That's if your 'man' is a stand-up joe. If not, he'll say "what? huh? uh....i mean....OH yeah you wanted the stuff with the high canadabol[sic]! yeah, i got that right here! [reaches into the same pocket he got the other shit from] yeah here you go. it's twice as much"
i think you guys mean cannanaboids which are some of the other chemicals that occur naturally in marijuana its actuallt the chemical in weed that makes yuo tired as thc is an upper

[Indy]

i think you guys mean cannanaboids which are some of the other chemicals that occur naturally in marijuana its actuallt the chemical in weed that makes yuo tired as thc is an upper


That was intentional, thus the [sic] tag, as in, that's what the dealer would call it.

[Pantopon Pete]

I dared my buddy to shoot some really good kif once. It didn't really cook up right. So he did a line instead.


Boy did I feel sorry for that dare after I saw his face. I got the distinct impression that it burned. A lot.

[buc]

In the 70's there was a powdered form of THC. A highly prized drug at the time. It was a white powder that was snorted. On the street in was called "Neb". I don't know if it could be injected. It was best to buy it from reliable sourses because sometimes Angel Dust would be sold as Neb. A Neb high was like a very strong weed buzz..........A dust high was like 3-4 hours of hell.

[Paregoric Kid]

there is an analog called THC-O-phosphate that can be injected. there is also a complex way of making an emulsion of THC with polysorbate 80 that can be injected. what is the point though? THC reaches the brain faster when smoked/vaporized than if it could be injected.
the CBD and CBN slow the metabolism of THC so right there is one way in which it boosts the high over taking just THC alone.

[mikey5string]

oh man, i was cracking up when she started laughing. ive been there, where its really inappropriate to laugh and you cant help it. the harder you try, they more you laugh.
ahhhh, the good old days...

[More Feen]

I have to agree with some of the earlier posts:

Back in highschool, smoking MJ was fun, tingly, and almost always a great time.

Now-a-days, it leads to paranoia, and general not much fun. Occassionally I can still get "glimpses" of the old days, but generally, not much fun at all. Using MJ concurrent with an anxiolytic like valium/clonazepam does help with the negative aspects of MJ.

MORE FEEN's Hypotheses (why weed ain't no fun no more):

# 1: Back in highschool, dumb-ass More Feen wasn't paying no bills, had little to no responsibility, things he was worrying about then (girls, clothes, cars, parties, etc...), so smoking MJ had little to be paranoid about. I mean, at 15, heavy things like death seemed far, far away. These days, ol' More Feen is still a dumb-ass, but he's had a few decades to figure this life thing out, and the reality of it isn't all that great. Smoking MJ now causes worries about bills, loans, work, (girls are still included), health, death, etc.... In short, there's so much more to be paranoid about these days.

# 2: The MJ More Feen was smoking back in highschool was lower quality, maybe lower THC but higher cannabidiol (or whatever the good, giggly stuff is). The MJ More Feen smoked in recent years is higher in THC and lower in cannabidiol (sp?). Ergo, the modern stuff is more "paranoia-genic."

# 3: Prolly a combo of #1 & #2.

M F

[duck]

I, of course, have had the same exact experience as all of you. I went from smoking a shit ton every day for years to not being able to smoke ONE hit without getting super ripped and super anxious and super paranoid.

What is the reason for this?!?!??Not fair.

[oxyjon]

My boss was telling me today that they used to have this shit called thc back in the day. He said it was a white rock they would crumble on joints. He said it was 50 times as potent as mj and it would make you trip. I just laughed and thought they could of been smoking crack and were misinformed. I didn't give it any thought untill I read about the neb powder.

And I'm the same way. I cant smoke shit compared to when I was younger. My wife is younger than me and she is always bitching about wanting to smoke these fat ass joints and I want to save it. Then after smoking these hooters I pass out. When I was younger I was like her and would smoke all night long.

[OxiContinKing]

I'm dumb enough to shoot up this shit they try to pass down here as dope, so fuck it, why not...

[buc]

My boss was telling me today that they used to have this shit called thc back in the day. He said it was a white rock they would crumble on joints. He said it was 50 times as potent as mj and it would make you trip. I just laughed and thought they could of been smoking crack and were misinformed. I didn't give it any thought untill I read about the neb powder.

And I'm the same way. I cant smoke shit compared to when I was younger. My wife is younger than me and she is always bitching about wanting to smoke these fat ass joints and I want to save it. Then after smoking these hooters I pass out. When I was younger I was like her and would smoke all night long.
Neb was street slang for cannabinol. It was passed off as thc. Mid 70's So. Cal...........Does anyone else remember the stuff.

[alowishus]

Insomuch as weed and paranoia, it's a side effect of long term weed smokin'!!
Of course I have felt it, but I have also a level head went fucked up (30 bad acid trips can help you w/ that) and really it's just a matter of mind over paranoia.
You were fine before you smoked the weed, and you'll be fine after the high is gone; so why now are you freaking out? Once you start to think bad shit it starts a run away train of bad shit, you just have to condition yourself to come out of it, and that can be used in any situation.
It takes time to learn but it works.
Just like saying; there's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home........

Another thing is to find your safe/happy spot; it's a place and a way of sitting that you are comfy with when you are feeling bad (in your head), you can go there and know you are safe and be happy and come out of it.
You just have to know it will work, & it does.

[duck]

Insomuch as weed and paranoia, it's a side effect of long term weed smokin'!!
Of course I have felt it, but I have also a level head went fucked up (30 bad acid trips can help you w/ that) and really it's just a matter of mind over paranoia.
You were fine before you smoked the weed, and you'll be fine after the high is gone; so why now are you freaking out? Once you start to think bad shit it starts a run away train of bad shit, you just have to condition yourself to come out of it, and that can be used in any situation.
It takes time to learn but it works.
Just like saying; there's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home........

Another thing is to find your safe/happy spot; it's a place and a way of sitting that you are comfy with when you are feeling bad (in your head), you can go there and know you are safe and be happy and come out of it.
You just have to know it will work, & it does.

For me, it's not even really paranoia. It'd be better described as anxiousness. My heart starts racing and I just cannot relax. I'm not like worried about shit, I'm just anxious as fuck.

[MrCharlesIV]

I've always said that if there were a way to IV herb I'd do it... I really don't like smoking. You can't be very secretive and smoke herb at the same time [smell]. For now I'll stick to my opies.

[jacky]

shooting THC.
interesting.

I see the point of administering pure THC and comparing to a mixture of cannabidiol..but....they left out a step.
they didnt shoot up pure cannabidiol alone.

this "cutting edge" research doesnt really show us anything we didnt already know. pure THC alone sucks compared to a fuller spectrum blend of the cannabanoids

cannabis is an amazing plant, that probably could extracted, and isolated into a variety of bioactive compounds, with their own uses perhaps.

one night when I stopped by a freind of mine, who happened to be a dealer too, she offered me some "irie" milk.
a milk concoction cooked up with all her stems, and some unknown amount of bud shake.
she had been cooking for some time. the whole house smelled of the stuff.
she brought out a coffee mug of the condensed, sweetened milk product.
I asked how potent the stuff would be.
she didnt really seem to know.
I shouldve thought about this move, as I would seriously regret it later.
even though I could taste, the bitter oily cannabis extract in there, I drank the whole cup.
I figured, cannabis in milk, I shouldnt even start to feel this by the time I make it home and probably pass out.
I shouldve known...that nasty intense taste. I have eaten cannabis before on a variety of occasions. I know that taste. I shouldve taken the warning.

by the time I got home I felt like I was on the deck of a ship going down.
it looked as if my house was tilted inside about a 12 on 12 if you know roofing talk...
it was unnerving.
also, my mental chaos looming on the horizon was already externalizing into my reality.
I normally come home after a long day to a haven, of wife, cats, books, herbs, comfort.
but not this night.
it was near christmas, and my wife had decorated our small tree, with these hideous little doll head lights...each doll head was like an excorcists nightmare.
I was immediately cranky with the whole situation.
the dolls heads and the christmas lights were threatening, I was annoyed with my wife.
the house seemed like a large white trash bag that needed to be flushed with me included. a peice of shit loser.
I had to get in the bathroom and take urgent bowel movement. this is not a normal late night activity for me.

I sat on the couch, confused, dizzy, and now, scared...I realized what my mistake had been.
consuming an unknown amount of cannabis extract from a pot dealer that holds cannabis to be cheaper than food.
shit.
I told my wife what was up, and that I was probably not going to have a good night.
the room spun, and then the contractions started.

I felt the fear, and a strange, annoying feeling that I could feel everything electric in the house burning me from the inside out.
pain in every joint.
and I found my stomach cramping.

I felt as if I knew what was happening now.
complimentary dopamine release.
my stomach tightened to the point where I could not stand up, I had to sit down in a hunched over position...my chest almost touching my knees.
I had to keep this position for the next 5-6 hours of utter hell.

my heart rate was counted to about a steady 120 beats per minute for hours.
not an insane heart rate...but one that is not comfortable for me.
shooting cocaine all night is one thing.
this whas quite another.

soon I slipped into a delerious state.
I needed to purge.
but absolutely could not.
I was becoming weak, feeble.
if any idiot in the history of mankind was going to overdose from weed, it was going to be me.

what had this person cooked up?
pure breakdown products of the cannabanoid type.
I realized, with a slurring mind, that she boiled that stuff all day....adding more and more.
the bitch poisoned me I felt. she seemed like more of a witch than a freind.
my rational mind tried to compete, that this was just an effect of the drug, and that I didnt really hate her.
but at the moment, hate was a pretty good word.

I was scared.
my mother has long told me the story of a family freind who did the hash smuggling thing in the 70's.
in the middle east, they swallowed multiple balls of hash covered in dipped wax.
but it was beeswax.
the guy digested the beeswax enough, or it simply melted off, and he went into a fucking coma on the plane.
he didnt wake up for 3 weeks. but when he did, it was in a hospital.
he was busted, had to go to prison, and from what his freinds and family say, had long lasting mental problems and initially couldnt take care of himself.

was I on the road to an overdose?

really, by that point, I was too feeble to go to the emergency room.
I was keeping together mainly in that I couldnt really do anything for myself.

I have had many experiences when I felt in so much pain, or sickness, that I might need medical attention.
most times I really didnt...and I have a pretty good record of sucking up the pain and suffering and talking myself into an at least stable position.

at this point you can only tell oneself that suffering is transient...that you will cycle out of this too.
over and over.

I could compare the mental effects of the delerium, as similiar to a high dose,DXM experience.
but with my stomach twisted into a knot, sweaty, and with a pounding heart rate.
for hours I sat in this state...to paranoid and fucked up to sleep, to fucked up to deal.
everytime I closed my eyes I was immersed in a meaningless slush of crap. mental, physical, emotional washing machine of a mess.

as 6 am rolled along...then 8 am...I was finally coming down. at least 7-8 hours of hell.
with an hour an each end of that of being uncomfortable.

by 10 am I could sort of sleep. which I did for about an hour and a half.
at this point in time, 5 hours sleep a night was a good nights sleep for me. 7 hours being the absolutely longest I could stay asleep.
so an hour and a half did wonders for me.
by 11.30 I took a few hits off of a pipe.
nice.

I was absolutely wrecked the entire day.
it was similiar to the devestating effects of taking a 100 grams of outer peruvian sand pedro flesh...the very ring of potent material that contains some 90% of the alkaloid content, and doing it in two large, syrupy, enema bottles.
the high took 6 hours to progress into a hellish night of some of the worst pain of my life.
burning, burning heartburn.
all I had ate was watermelon, water, and not eaten any of the san pedro.
so the heartburn was confusing.
looking back, it was probably some stimulation of my acids, out of control, being released by some unknown reaction.
the pain was so damn bad. I was puking...all sorts of stuff I dont recognize...it was like evil possessed puke. black shit as I remember right.
psychic vampires whispered everywhere around me. souls.
at 6am I as finally collapsed in the back yard, cold, feeble, laying in the cool grass.
I was clutching a peice of jade that seemed my only relief. the jade I found on stinson beach in CA.
as the sun came up over the desert foothills....and the sun hit my face...almost 90% of the pain and suffering washed out of me within a few seconds.
a huge relief.
I was messed up the whole next day. and completely wore out on the third day.

and this experience with the Irie milk was much the same. I was wrecked that entire day. and felt like a broken up pile of shit the next day.

I dont know if there was much THC in that overcooked batch of halahala poison milk...it was probably all converted, degraded cannabanoids.

the seeming dopamine stimulation, the high heart rate, and the cramped stomach was the hardest part.
the feeling of having mush for a mind was not that bad,...as mush doesnt suffer much being mush.
its the body that was fucked.

it really made me think twice about the seeming low toxicity of cannabis.

[More Feen]

I think DUCK hit the description on the head.

I clearly remember in highschool the AWESOMENESS of weed: the tingly skin, the relaxation, it was great.

These days, its not a bad trip, but its edgy, and a mix of feeling stupid, and minor anxiety. I do agree with ALOWISHUS that being in the right setting, and in the right frame of mind help a lot. Much like prepping for an acid/shroom trip.

I would still consider having some xanax, or opiate on board to help even-out my keel as it were when smoking.

Good thread!

M F