Where to get pain meds??

[satori]

Im going to a spine specialist about a month from now. My doctor (family doctor) said she doesnt feel comfortable writting hydrocodone or other pain meds more then 5x a year, because there are so many pain management doctors in my area. I COULD do that, but i dont need the meds all the time because some days are really good but others are REALLLLY bad. I need to find a site or some way to buy hydrocodone or codeine, something around there. Even tramadol or propoxyphene would help A LITTLE but hydro or codeine would be best and i know stronger are to hard to find. I know its not like the good old days where u could submit an order to a NROP and get it 3 days later but does any one have ANY links they trust? even 10mg codeine, perferably 30-60. But i wont complain! PM so this forum doesnt get to reconized, dont want to many seing the link, because somtimes there not all civilians... u know. Yea you get it. I just got my credit card working again too! Fantastic.

Any site that sells codeine, hydrocodone (anything stronger if at all possible), propoxyphene, or tramadol.

[caesee]

Im going to a spine specialist about a month from now. My doctor (family doctor) said she doesnt feel comfortable writting hydrocodone or other pain meds more then 5x a year, because there are so many pain management doctors in my area. I COULD do that, but i dont need the meds all the time because some days are really good but others are REALLLLY bad. I need to find a site or some way to buy hydrocodone or codeine, something around there. Even tramadol or propoxyphene would help A LITTLE but hydro or codeine would be best and i know stronger are to hard to find. I know its not like the good old days where u could submit an order to a NROP and get it 3 days later but does any one have ANY links they trust? even 10mg codeine, perferably 30-60. But i wont complain! PM so this forunot m doesnt get to reconized, dont want to many seing the link, because somtimes there not all civilians... u know. Yea you get it. I just got my credit card working again too! Fantastic.

Any site that sells codeine, hydrocodone (anything stronger if at all possible), propoxyphene, or tramadol.

have you tried a ROP, just get copies of your records and fax them. I used to use norcoworldwide.com, $120 for the conuslt with is up to 2 differnt meds (of course both cannt be pain meds). It is around $102 for 120 count lorcet with 2 refills...when the refills are up you have to start over and pay for the consult again.

[Mokelly]

Just go to a pain specialists, and if you have medical records with x-rays and MRI's to back up your condition you should just tell him you are in quite a lot of pain and that hydrocodone doesn't work, and you would like to discuss something you could receive to et rid of the pain so you can live your life again. Then you should be in-line to get what ever you want, Morphine, methadone, oxycontin, fentanyl, hydromorphone, oxymorphone...

[satori]

I will probably get that when i see them but that is not for a month and i have nothing now.

[satori]

Im also trying to find the name of some one who would specialise in back treatment. there is one place i have gone too but i did not like it AT ALL. They were.. very rude. I had said i took oxycodone befor for my back and the doctor nearly went off and started speaking down to me and loud about how he only gives that to cancer patients. Im trying to find a new place but dont know what to look for. Would a pain specialist be able to figure out whats wrong ? Get an MRI and such?

[exitwound]

First I would try to find a decent local doc to help you. At the very least, you'll get some fresh records proving your condition out of the bargain.

Then, depending on what you get from your local doc once you find one you can live with, you can take your records and get extra hydrocodone (usually 90, sometimes 120 10/500's per month is typical....you pay for a "consult" and then you get three fills, usually 25 days apart, after that before you have to have another phone "consult" to go on for another three months) from a ROP.

[satori]

I have a regular doctor i go to, but she said i have been taking a lot of pain meds over the past year (about 50 - 60 a month) so she didnt want to perscribe any more. She said, if i lived in a smaller area, a town in the middle of "nowhere" then she wouldnt have a problem writting the scripts, but sense there were so many pain management doctors around if i wanted to go down that route i should see one of them. The thing is im not sure if i want to see a pain specialist. Pain meds help, but i also want to find out if there is anything "wrong" with my back. I want to make sure there isnt something i need to do. Plus, i dont always need pain meds, maybe 4 out of 7 days, but what i have found out recently is, when i have them and my back stops hurting i stilllll feel the need to take them (so i went off of them all together).

[exitwound]

I have a regular doctor i go to, but she said i have been taking a lot of pain meds over the past year (about 50 - 60 a month) so she didnt want to perscribe any more. She said, if i lived in a smaller area, a town in the middle of "nowhere" then she wouldnt have a problem writting the scripts, but sense there were so many pain management doctors around if i wanted to go down that route i should see one of them. The thing is im not sure if i want to see a pain specialist. Pain meds help, but i also want to find out if there is anything "wrong" with my back. I want to make sure there isnt something i need to do. Plus, i dont always need pain meds, maybe 4 out of 7 days, but what i have found out recently is, when i have them and my back stops hurting i stilllll feel the need to take them (so i went off of them all together).

Pain specialists can be great, if you find the right one. I would give it a try, there's nothing to say you can't continue to see a regular doc or an orthopedic specialist for your underlying condition.

[satori]

My teeth were starting to REALLy hurt me, so i called my dentists emergancy line. Im going in tomarrow to see whats wrong but i think i just figured it out (my ear hurts SUPER SUPER BAD) so i think i have an infection ear or sinus's and its putting pressure on the teeth area. So im going to go to doctor, im not going to try and get anything because i have somewhat burned those bridges lol but i want to make sure its not REALLY infected and if so, anti biotics. But i took some soma and a 7.5 and it is deff. helping with back pain. The back + teeth was just to much to handle.

[exitwound]

i have had bad sinus infections create massive upper tooth pain. that is probably what is happening, and docs will be somewhat hesitant to prescribe the proper amount of pain meds. the focus will be on powerful antibiotics.

[opiapleez]

I have alot of problems myself, the worst is chronic kidney stones, like a few every MONTH!
its EXCRUCIATING!! I went to a ROP called Your Pain Mnagement and was presribed 4 scripts for 100 each 10/325 hydrocodone, its okay but I have ahigh high tolerance and would kill or die for some immediate release morphine.
But try YPM I had my consult the same day i faxed my records and script the next day.

[Curio]

If you have records, I think it's better to use rxscriptonline, or youronlinedoctor because they use pharmacies that can compound hydrocodone with less apap in the capsules...

[satori]

My doctor refered me to a orthapedic surgeon (one who also used methods not involving surgery like physical therapy AND pain management). Im going to ask for time release med's because i always take a normal dose (5-10mg) then an half hour or so later my back hurts again. Im actualy TRYING to stay away from things stronger then oxy, even oxy itself because i do start to make it a habit. If this surgeon doesnt give me anything that works i will probably go with ROP, by the way what records can i send? At the end of the visit i get a yellow carbon copy that has all these things on it, numbers for conditons. It also says diagnoses - (some back problem). Would this actualy work? OR do i need something more detailed?

[satori]

i have had bad sinus infections create massive upper tooth pain. that is probably what is happening, and docs will be somewhat hesitant to prescribe the proper amount of pain meds. the focus will be on powerful antibiotics.


THAT IS WHAT HAPPEND! It was a bad sinus problem that was pushing on the "root" part of my teeth. My dentist was going out of town and just gave me 6 7.5 hydrocodones (at 9:30 at night). I felt bad calling her late at night but it was deff. worth it.

[satori]

If you have records, I think it's better to use rxscriptonline, or youronlinedoctor because they use pharmacies that can compound hydrocodone with less apap in the capsules...

What do u mean? They can take say 2 grams of hydrocodone (norco) and split that exact amount into capsules that dont have APAP?

[exitwound]

THAT IS WHAT HAPPEND! It was a bad sinus problem that was pushing on the "root" part of my teeth. My dentist was going out of town and just gave me 6 7.5 hydrocodones (at 9:30 at night). I felt bad calling her late at night but it was deff. worth it.

6, or 60?

Anyway, a combination of antibiotics and mucus-moving/thinning (expectorant) medications should alleviate the pain. Pseudoephedrine may help relieve the pressure, at least.

[satori]

YEa i have been taking both, i have been cursed this week, so many different things all hitting at one time. The perfect storm lol.

[Saira Bee]

Nevermind, I'm an idiot. :-o

[shaunclo]

If anyone knows a reputable place to get hydros, I'd be at their mercy for life. Money isn't an issue.

If you go to the beginning of this thread, there are atleast 3 different places people have already named. Please try and read the whole post. There are right and wrong ways of asking for things here, you asked the wrong way. There are rules here that we ALL have to follow, please try to do your best and follow them.

Yes I am an asshole, get over it.........

[Saira Bee]

If you go to the beginning of this thread, there are atleast 3 different places people have already named. Please try and read the whole post. There are right and wrong ways of asking for things here, you asked the wrong way. There are rules here that we ALL have to follow, please try to do your best and follow them.

Yes I am an asshole, get over it.........

I'm over it. :o

[devilsdrug]

atta boy shauncio you were on a roll this day and on other threads

[shaunclo]

Man I just re-read my post and had no idea how pissy I have been lately.

Sorry Devil, I wasnt trying to take over your job here. You are still the MAN!!

[Saira Bee]

Please excuse my wonkiness. I think I left my brain in the loo... :confused:

[Saira Bee]

Bah! I'm trying to set up a consultation at one of the ROP, and for some reason none of them deliver to my state! :confused- I don't know what to do. I'll keep looking, but WTF. *screams obscenities*

[satori]

Apointment is wednesday. My back has gotten worse and worse so im glad to be going there and not just ordering off the net. Long drive though :(

[antony]

Apointment is wednesday. My back has gotten worse and worse so im glad to be going there and not just ordering off the net. Long drive though :(

always is. but it makes for a fun ride home tho, don't it. that brand spanking new pill smell? mmmm... 3 cigs in your mouth, doing 75 down the e-way, a new favorite song on the radio, pick up some lunch, and straight home. wish my appt was wed. too

[paperrabbit]

some OPs even will give you an 'emergency fill' if you can't get your records in right away. I've used norco worldwide and they did this.

good luck, pain is no fun.:mad:

[satori]

Ok i went to surgeon today. Xrays etc. Turns out one of my disks has this .... looks like a swellin gon the side. He said sometimes peoples discs form a little different and they can cause a lot of pain when you lift etc. and when you injure it, it can make it much worse. So he was going on saying how bad it can be, that its not something i would want worked on (surgery) which i agree with then he just leaves. I asked his nurse if he could write a perscription for pain meds but turns out he ONLY does that if he operates. i was amazed to say the least.

[Saira Bee]

We must have the same doctor.

[devilsdrug]

take your records and go elsewhere as in pain doc, what a prick, and they are everywhere archaic motherfukkers

[antony]

Ok i went to surgeon today. Xrays etc. Turns out one of my disks has this .... looks like a swellin gon the side. He said sometimes peoples discs form a little different and they can cause a lot of pain when you lift etc. and when you injure it, it can make it much worse. So he was going on saying how bad it can be, that its not something i would want worked on (surgery) which i agree with then he just leaves. I asked his nurse if he could write a perscription for pain meds but turns out he ONLY does that if he operates. i was amazed to say the least.

Everytime I hear a story like that from a friend or fam member, I'd like to go to that doctor with a dull pencil and place it firmly between vertabraes and not let go. And proceed to ask the fucker if hed want to walk around like that all day.

Its not even like youre bullshittin man, he cant get in trouble if hes got fucking xrays to prove it.

[shaunclo]

Yeah it sounds like you are getting fucked over with some shitty docs. Oh well, live and learn. Atleast you know of 1 more doc in your area that you will never be going back to.

Finding a doc that sincerely cares is a rough job. I dont even try cause I have no pain problems and use just for the effects. I feel like if I go into a doctors office and compain about pain I dont have, then Karma will take care of me and give me some pain to complain about. So I dont even fuck around, cause it always does come back to you.

So everyone with the A+ in bullshitting docs about pain you dont have, beware, karma is a bitch. There are plenty of places to find all kinds of narcotics. Leave the docs to the people with REAL pain. Dont burn all your bridges before you need to cross them.

[antony]

It's def nice to have a doc that doesn't care either way. Just pay the money and shut the fuck up.

"our little secret right?"

Thats what I'd imagine itd be like.;)

[HistoryofMadness]

I feel like if I go into a doctors office and compain about pain I dont have, then Karma will take care of me and give me some pain to complain about.

So everyone with the A+ in bullshitting docs about pain you dont have, beware, karma is a bitch. Leave the docs to the people with REAL pain.

Shaunclo, I respectfully offer a solution to your dilemma: don't believe in karma. I know, I know, but hear me out: karma is Sanskrit for "enter whateverthefuckhere" and its key in Buddihism, Hinduism, and Jainism. You are not any of these I assume?

If you are 'western' most likely you have it easy: just be sorry and repent :-) (not that I condone these acts!)

Besides, the concept of karma is VERY misunderstood in our culture... it has nothing to do with 'people getting what they deserve'. It is all about taking personal responsibility for one's actions and being aware of the direct consequences.

I'd be more inclined to go along with you IF doctors actually helped with pain patients. . . But, they usually don't, so I say fair game.

And screw karma.

And ... (hey, whattha... *drunk driver crashes through living room and takes out new t.v.*)

-H

[shaunclo]

Shaunclo, I respectfully offer a solution to your dilemma: don't believe in karma. I know, I know, but hear me out: karma is Sanskrit for "enter whateverthefuckhere" and its key in Buddihism, Hinduism, and Jainism. You are not any of these I assume?

If you are 'western' most likely you have it easy: just be sorry and repent :-) (not that I condone these acts!)

Besides, the concept of karma is VERY misunderstood in our culture... it has nothing to do with 'people getting what they deserve'. It is all about taking personal responsibility for one's actions and being aware of the direct consequences.

I'd be more inclined to go along with you IF doctors actually helped with pain patients. . . But, they usually don't, so I say fair game.

And screw karma.

And ... (hey, whattha... *drunk driver crashes through living room and takes out new t.v.*)

-H

I hear ya madness, everything is free game. The reason that people with real pain have such a hard time aquiring the meds they really need is because so many people try to bullshit their way into a handful of meds they dont need for pain, but want for recreational value. If this wasnt the case, then people with real legit pain wouldnt have such a hard time getting what they really need. In my opinion the black market is for people like me, the ones that do it for their own pleasure and fun. I can live without opiates and still get everythign I need done. But I prefer to live with opiates because it makes me feel better and live a more pleasurable life. What I am not going to do is try to con my way into a bottle full of oxys when I know that I am just making it harder for people that need that bottle just to be able to walk. This is just something I cant do because I have so many family members who cant even get outta bed without taking a pain med to be able to walk.

Dont get me wrong though, I know by posting that last post isnt going to stop anyone reading it from doing what they wanna do, shit, I do what I want when I want, regardless of what anybody else has to say about it. So I am not surprised that others do the same. I was just putting out there the reason why I think it is getting harder for people with real pain to get what they really need. It wasnt always like this, there was a time when you could get whatever it was you needed (I wish I lived i that time) but I think people who doc shop just dont undertand how bad people with real pain have it. And if they did, I think they would look at it differently. Please dont think I am trying to condemn anyone who does it, I am not a saint myself. I just know that I wouldnt get away with it. The day I start doc shopping is the day my arm falls off and I start pissing kideny stones. I do believe in karma, and no I am not a bhuddist or catholic or christian. Its just something I believe in because I have seen crazy shit ahppen to me when I knew better.

[Kallie]

I agree with Shaunclo. I've seen people, including myself, live with the direct consequences of their actions/inactions.... I would feel safe wagering Paris Hilton will spend her next life, if there is one, avoiding the sticky side of a D-Con Roach Trap and skittering away from the bright lights.

Some docs are great, but the weasel docs that ignore legit pain and cha-ching up office visits (and offer no referral to a pain doc, if they are just scared to rx) will most likely end up needing some help one day and that's when they will understand, truly understand, what needing but not getting (or even worse, just being ignored) is really like.

And Satori, I truly feel for you and wish you the best.

[HistoryofMadness]

Yeah, I agree about the doc shopping (but not on karmic grounds) but its a chicken or egg situation. I would venture to guess a lot of opiophiles have had pain or depression (which is a form of pain) issues in the past. I also think that opiates have potential for anti-depressants (some people can't get SSRI's or MAOI's to work to save their life, but opiates are fantastic for them).

I for one HAD pain issues, and was prescribed pain meds, and didn't know and was never counselled on their addictive nature... I was only 15... and was dependant on them for several years 'legitimately'.

Later when I found out why I liked them so much I was a little angry that I wasn't warned sooner. This led me to believe that docs weren't much better than the people who shop them. Of course, me chasing them afterwards was all my fault, and I don't blame anyone else for that.

Anyway, I think that the behavior that results from black market activities (including drugs) is really what gives many drug addicts a bad name, and doc shopping isn't much better, so what to do? The dilemma continues.

And is it really that hard to believe that bad things just happen? I read a study recently that showed people who believe in karma were more likely to blame victims of random bad luck and random violence. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, its just hard for me to believe that there's some sort of cosmic beancounter keeping track of actions and responding in turn.

[Kallie]

Agreed on the "cosmic bean counter...," I just think consequences have a way of happening in direct or indirect response to certain choices made (obviously, by sheer definition of the word). Not that everything immediately occurs, but to me personally, it seems things have a way of sorting themselves out... good or bad. And yes, I believe lots of times "shit just happens," too. Like tornados, hurricanes, getting down-sized, having termites, stepping in dog doo, etc. But if someone's a real asshole, their life usually sucks sooner or later. And if someone's pretty nice, their life may be hard and full of crap, but overall they feel pretty positive. So, I try to focus on the positive. And not whine too much or blame anyone for whatever.

To each his own, as long as it doesn't hurt innocent bystanders.:confused:

Personally speaking, I don't care why someone uses opiates. Personally, I think depression is "real" pain. Personally, I should shut up now.

[HistoryofMadness]

I agree wholeheartdly. Depression is real pain. I don't know what cheers body up more than 'euphoria' right? And they gave me wellbutrin... (which is nice, and maybe slowly starting to work, but it certainly doesn't cause euphoria...)

Hey Satori, I certainly didn't mean to participate in the hijacking of your thread... I do hope you have found some relief! Regardless of the 'debatable' uses of opiates, they are definitely necessary for you and others suffering pain.

[THEPAINTER1960]

I just came down with an excrutiating headache can anyone help out an old alter boy!!!!!!!Thanks

[satori]

Action and re-action. Its not different then gravity. You move a cup two feet away from you, it moves two feet closer to the wall (causation). The other day i was late putting money into my bank acount i kept putting it off and i ended up being charged 40$ for an over draft, thats karma. It isnt some mystical invisible thing you cant see, its life.

However, to the person that said leave the docs to people with real pain? I would like to kindly say fuck you. And im saying this in the nicest way possible i just feel its a needed statement. I have been in car accidents, fractured ribs, from biking accident, torn cartlidge from getting beat up (that really sucked), seirously hurt my back over 20 times from skateboarding, have had a slipped disc and have a non-normal curvature of my spine. ANd like the specialist said, one of the discs in my back has grown a little bit more on the left then the right and can cause pain to be more severe then it normaly would be when i say pull a muscle. I can get illicit opiates and i have thus far not done that (until tonight) because i wanted to do it the right way, i have wanted to go about it legaly, i have been to physical therapy for months, message therapist, and chiropractors. I have spent countless years trying to get better. Therefor, the fuck you.

[satori]

And is it really that hard to believe that bad things just happen? I read a study recently that showed people who believe in karma were more likely to blame victims of random bad luck and random violence. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, its just hard for me to believe that there's some sort of cosmic beancounter keeping track of actions and responding in turn.


Thats ONE virsion of karma, however hinduism and buddhism have different views on this, and withen buddhism the theories vary quite drasticly, not to mention the crazy things western countries (mainly america) have made karma to be. Zen Buddhists and Tibet buddhists are much different in there guesses, and a buddhist will be the first to say it is just that, a guess. However karma is not somebody hitting one person then turning around to get hit by some one bigger, thats silly. However i dislike discususing religious / philosophical views on the internet so i will stop.

[HistoryofMadness]

Action and re-action. Its not different then gravity. You move a cup two feet away from you, it moves two feet closer to the wall (causation). The other day i was late putting money into my bank acount i kept putting it off and i ended up being charged 40$ for an over draft, thats karma. It isnt some mystical invisible thing you cant see, its life.


If this is the case, then we are simply having a misunderstanding over semantics. I use the english word 'consequences' where people use a sanskrit word, karma. No biggie. I have almost always heard it used when someone is avoiding a behavior, not because its wrong, but because of karma. That to me is kind of a long way to a simple point: if you think its wrong don't do it.

I am with you... enough about religion and philosophy... maybe it doesn't go well here.

[satori]

I have no arguemwnt with you historyofmadness. No disagreements here at all. Different words same thing. ALso some people act like arguing or convincing people of one thing changes reality. Reguardless of what we think or argue whatever true is true unless reality is truely subjective even on a fundamental level. Either way, i like what you say :).

[Able Danger]

I got a tooth pulled today, and the doctor didnt give me a fuckin prescription. Ruined my fuckin week, I was looking forward to getting my teeth pulled strictly for the opiates.:mad:

[devilsdrug]

shit even in my worst junkie days sucked up bad i got vico, cod , and even percs once for losing a tooth, hell i even got cod for five days 4x a day in a major penitentiary once , those drs. out there are gettin tight ass

[superman]

i got percs from the dentist for a sinus infection(I thought it was a wisdom tooth).
Been to two docs that wouldn't give me shit for back pain that doesn't show on x-ray. A third gave tramadol, 100 percs and 10x10mg oxy but would give nothing more for fear of addiction.

It's my impressoin that docs are predominantly a bunch of assholes that care too much about themselves to treat thier patients properly.

[chemboy7]

i got percs from the dentist for a sinus infection(I thought it was a wisdom tooth).
Been to two docs that wouldn't give me shit for back pain that doesn't show on x-ray. A third gave tramadol, 100 percs and 10x10mg oxy but would give nothing more for fear of addiction.

It's my impressoin that docs are predominantly a bunch of assholes that care too much about themselves to treat thier patients properly.

Well and true but they have to answer for all the schedualed drugs that they prescribe and they don't want to get fucked by those narcoswine bastards anymore than we do.