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RobW2
08-07-2008, 12:34 AM
I use mylan patches occasionally by putting them between my gum and cheek. I had heard that rubbing the inside of my cheek with rubbing alcohol will cause the fentanyl to come out much quicker. Is this true and with out the alcohol how long does a fent patch last this way.
Thanks
ROb
Tbird921
08-07-2008, 12:51 AM
Mylan patches are kinda shitty, I find there a few ways to use/abuse them, first you can cut them in strips and suck/lightly chew on them, second you can put some baking soda on your gums then put the peices of patches in there(kinda the same idea of fentora) make sure to chew them after you have them in your gums to get all the precious fent. or third and I'm not sure how safe this is but take a chunk just the patch not the plastic thing it's on and make a small indent in some foil and let the peice soak in rubbing alch and then let the alch evap, make sure it's ALL evaported you don't want to be breathing in burning rubbing alch fumes, but once you are SURE all the alch is gone remove the peice, there should be a light residue/strange color on the foil, take a straw and light that spot with a lighter and inhale and prepare for one hell of a ride, carefull smoking that shit will knock you down and OUT if your not carefull, start with a small peice and move up and take a hit and wait a few mins to let it fully kick in. Hope this helps.
Mallinckrodt
08-07-2008, 04:38 PM
Be sure to try and swallow as little as possible if you cheek it like that. Fent really is shitty if it has to go through the gut and get metabolised. . .much better bioavailability with the buccal route.
Other than that, I'm sure if you use the search engine here you'll find plenty of threads on the many frustrations of Mylans, and some tested methods of getting the most bang for your buck out of that matrix.
halfalien_s4
08-07-2008, 05:11 PM
i agree w/ the buccal route or transmuscocal route. thats actually how my actiq lollipops work also. they absorb thru my cheeks, gums, ect.
Mallinckrodt
08-07-2008, 08:47 PM
i agree w/ the buccal route or transmuscocal route. thats actually how my actiq lollipops work also. they absorb thru my cheeks, gums, ect.
Exactly.
RobW2
08-08-2008, 02:43 AM
My parents refuse to get the duragesic patches because they are afraid they will go through their 15 day supply in 2-3 days so I am stuck with mylan. Typically i keep it on my gums for like 4 hours and then usually throw them out, no chewing them. They seem to wear off by then so I just toss em. Am i wasting the fent or is there a way to get more out of it? BTW, it is definately possible to catch a good buzz of the mylans but the duragesic just knocks my on my ass too quick. Another question. If you take a mylan that has been worn for 60-70 hours can you still get off on it by puitting it in your mouth or is the fent pretty much gone by then?
Thanks
Rob
Dan Steely
08-08-2008, 08:15 AM
Alright for prob the tenth and last(I promise)time and my 1000th post.
JUST WEAR THE FUCK'N THING!!!
Just my opinion of course but aside from some tedious extraction process the way to get the most fent out of those things is to wear them.
No it won't rock your world but you will get the most value that way. Does every opiate experience have to be noddy or the brink of an od to be enjoyable?
Unless you have a pretty heavy habit wearing one of those things is gonna make for 2 or 3 really good days. You wake up not in wd and pain free with a great attitude ready to really enjoy life and or god forbid actually accomplish something. It's really a nice change of pace.
Trying to force a heavy buzz out of a mylan is wasteful and kind of futile. Why fight it. Just go with it and appreciate it for what it has to offer.
If you do have a habit what a blessing it is to have one if you run out of your usual doc. A lot of people could even get by on half a 100. Thats 6 days of not being in wd or chasing.
They also work great as a taper by cutting them into progressively smaller pieces.
Again just my opinion but as you can prob tell it irritates me that people wastefully butcher these things when they have so much value used as intended.
And Rob this rant really isn't directed at you specificly. It's just a rant and bottom line it's your patch and you can do whatever the hell you want with it.
1000 posts! that looks cool.
Another question. If you take a mylan that has been worn for 60-70 hours can you still get off on it by puitting it in your mouth or is the fent pretty much gone by then?
Thanks
Rob
You can definately still get fent out of a patch that has been worn for 72 hours. Do th math theere is something like 10.62mgs (or 1062mcg) of fent in a 100mcg mylan. 72 hours at 100mcg = 7200 total mcg's used. That leaves 3862 mcg. There may be a little less as I have found that when the weather is hotter my patches are usually wearing off after about 50hrs. That is because the heat speeds up the rate of transfer. Even when I can feel them wear out I can still tell there is some left when the used patch is chewed. You will want to be sure to hold on to the used ones, even if you have to wait until you got 2 of them to feel it. Hell, I'd probably be going through all my old trash looking for the disposed of old ones if I'd just found that out. I usually will place them (new or used) between my cheek and gum for about 1 hour without swallowing, then chew them once and a while (to make it easier to not swallow) for the next hour, then for another hour or two after that just chew like a piece of gum just to make sure. It is my opinion that the chewing kinda smears the adhesive (where the fent is stored) around so you have a fresh area to absorb bucally. Hope that helps. As the other OP said, the best part about the mylans is that you can cut them down if you need to taper. That is how I deal with the end of the month if I had too much fun and am coming up a couple short. A smaller dose is obviously much better than w/d's.
Inspektahdek
08-08-2008, 02:46 PM
Alright for prob the tenth and last(I promise)time and my 1000th post.
JUST WEAR THE FUCK'N THING!!!
Just my opinion of course but aside from some tedious extraction process the way to get the most fent out of those things is to wear them.
No it won't rock your world but you will get the most value that way. Does every opiate experience have to be noddy or the brink of an od to be enjoyable?
Unless you have a pretty heavy habit wearing one of those things is gonna make for 2 or 3 really good days. You wake up not in wd and pain free with a great attitude ready to really enjoy life and or god forbid actually accomplish something. It's really a nice change of pace.
Trying to force a heavy buzz out of a mylan is wasteful and kind of futile. Why fight it. Just go with it and appreciate it for what it has to offer.
If you do have a habit what a blessing it is to have one if you run out of your usual doc. A lot of people could even get by on half a 100. Thats 6 days of not being in wd or chasing.
They also work great as a taper by cutting them into progressively smaller pieces.
Again just my opinion but as you can prob tell it irritates me that people wastefully butcher these things when they have so much value used as intended.
And Rob this rant really isn't directed at you specificly. It's just a rant and bottom line it's your patch and you can do whatever the hell you want with it.
1000 posts! that looks cool.
very true, however, EVERYONE WANTS THAT RUSH RUSH RUSH!!!!! And we all know this is true, I myself am a perfect example, I was a master fent abuser, I could easily smoke 5-6 100mcg fent patches a day, and still be ready the next day for work, etc. with no problem and not OD'ing, etc.
I now prefer more medium, sedating like fent, yet not as strong, but still a happy contentness that was missing from suboxone, but methadone is the suboxone with an actual buzz, not a rush like an initial morning shot of H or a strong smoke of a HUGE FENT GLOB BLOB, lol, once it starts burning efficiently, ooonh, I miss it, yet I'm willing to sacrifice and take the long road that doesn't have wasteful w/ds for days which turns into binge drinking which turns into feeling shittier, etc. etc.
If I were stuck with MYLANs that were not like the Deuro-gesics that I used to get, I would probably just wear them, I hear they have some additional fentanyl in them so it would actually stretch out and work longer for you. But if I had a choice, I would always have to go with GEL, because I'm an addict, good thing they don't even have Mylans here. Also a good thing I stopped smoking FENT, that's huge for me.
ndoftaworld
08-09-2008, 08:40 PM
My 25mcg Mylans containt 2.55mg of fent total.
Wearing them I do notice like Dan said, if I just wear it, I feel fine. I can go about my daily activities w/ out thinking about pain.
Oh the other hand... with the mylans (mine are low dose remember) I wear them 48hrs, then suck/chew on them, and then slip a new patch on right then
Anyway, you get a rush of euporia that actually lasts awhile. Sux when you only get 10 a month two... but these things would be perfect for 48hr application, but shit no.
Side note: My next refill, I have a special order of Watson's coming in just for me. AND the doc submitted the info, I get 3 months of name brand DURAGESIC's free!!!!! Yippe!!
Nd
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