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HandsOnMyFaceOverbearing
08-05-2008, 07:19 PM
hey all whats going on. I have a small question that i couldnt find anywhere else. i quit using for a significant amount of time but then started again... now this may seem like somewhat of a cheesy question but im all about being safe. in the past year the most mg of hydro i have taken is around 28mg's. i know how much acetomenophen is bad and can kill. about 4 grams and thats about 8 5mg500 hydro pills. so ive had 28mgs today but throughout the day. my last dose was around 2. i wanna take another 7.5mg. does that seem safe... thats 36.25mgs. more than ive ever had. a single dose shouldnt effect how much hydrocodone in my system. however i am aware it will affect the amount of acetomenophen in m system. but ill just be reaching around 2700 mgs of acetomenophen, and am willing to take that risk. any feedback at all would be appreciated. just wanna be safe..ish. thanks
irish
08-05-2008, 07:55 PM
You should be fine. The worry is generally about taking large amounts of apap over a long period of time. One very large dose could kill you, but it's unlikely that you are going to have problems as long as you stay below about 6g. The best thing to do would be a cwe to remove the apap almost completely.
jonny-5
08-05-2008, 07:57 PM
4 grams wont kill you, its just that above that causes damage to the liver over time. i used to take 30-40 hydros a day, sometimes norco, sometimes 7.5/750, sometimes lorcet or lortab, any kind of hydro, and i did this for over 2 years straight. you do the math.
Suboxstitute
08-05-2008, 08:44 PM
^^^ me too just like jonny - at times I took over 30 10/325s in a day and didn't always extract the tylenol. I'm fortunate, my liver enzymes are just. Every day for at least a year at the beginning when hydro stilk worked 8-10
It's good that you're careful but dont sweat this one time.
and if this is going to be a habit again - do the CWE (cold water extraction).
Sue
Consumed.
08-05-2008, 08:58 PM
4 grams wont kill you, its just that above that causes damage to the liver over time. i used to take 30-40 hydros a day, sometimes norco, sometimes 7.5/750, sometimes lorcet or lortab, any kind of hydro, and i did this for over 2 years straight. you do the math.
^^^ me too just like jonny - at times I took over 30 10/325s in a day and didn't always extract the tylenol. I'm fortunate, my liver enzymes are just. Every day for at least a year at the beginning when hydro stilk worked 8-10
It's good that you're careful but dont sweat this one time.
and if this is going to be a habit again - do the CWE (cold water extraction).
Sue
Yeah Im with both of you... I used to get those bottles of 500 vicodin ES and on plenty of days in a row was taking 30-40. Supposedly the LD 50 for hydro is 7-8 grams but it cant be true as all of our statements testify.
Oh and you are one lucky dude to get high off 30 or so mg of hydro and only have to worry about 3 grams of tylenol! Now that's better safe than sorry, a rarity on this board.
More power to ya. Shit I couldnt get hight off that when i started opies....
dharma bum
08-06-2008, 11:13 AM
Yeah this IS great to see someone being so careful. Enjoy the hydro. And it's not cheesy at all. This is a harm reduction site.
At the dose you're taking you're fine but if you get concerned about the apap in there do, like Irish mentioned, a cold water extraction.
cactus31
08-08-2008, 11:45 AM
Don't worry about 2700 mg of acetaminophen!
And as far as the narcotic goes, you'd be throwing those pills back up long before you'll overdose on hydrocodone.
I know a lot of people will tell you to extract with any amount of acetaminophen over 4 grams (in a 24 hour period)...and that's all well and good but if you ever do go over, the chances of actually hurting yourself are slim.
The liver is incredibly tough.
It typically takes an acute overdose of more than 10,000-15,000 mg of acetaminophen to prove toxic. Acute meaning not within 24 hours, but taken at once.
Most (on average, according to Merck) fatalities occur at around 21,000-24,000 mg...
...that's 42 hydrocodone 5-500's, or 64 percocet 5-325's !!!
I'm not condoning taking an excessive amount of Tylenol, but due to a miscalculation once, I consumed 11,300 or so mg of acetaminophen ( in an 18 hour period) with no ill effects.
Sources:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/557074
http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec24/ch297/ch297b.html
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/apap_od.htm
Obviously, anything else taken at the same time that is metabolised by the liver, ie; alcohol, should be avoided if your taking acetaminophen.
SurfRat
08-08-2008, 02:01 PM
It's important to remember that a person's liver will develop tolerance to the APAP as dosage increases, so after a period of time (weeks , months, years...), a person may take much larger,potentially lethal one time dosage amount of APAP without a problem.
HandMeSomeOpiates
08-09-2008, 01:32 AM
It's important to remember that a person's liver will develop tolerance to the APAP as dosage increases, so after a period of time (weeks , months, years...), a person may take much larger,potentially lethal one time dosage amount of APAP without a problem.
this is correct
pharmboy
08-09-2008, 06:19 PM
Remember also that Alcohol and Acetominophen together is twice as
toxic as Tylenol alone.
marshalldylan1
08-09-2008, 10:40 PM
Do a cold water extraction bro, I did one tonight, and it's all the good feelings with none of the ill feelings of too much acetominophen(headache, nausea)
oxymoronluvr
08-09-2008, 11:09 PM
gosh i remember those days of the feelings of hydro when i first started. enjoy it. they go fast!
HandsOnMyFaceOverbearing
08-13-2008, 02:01 AM
hey all thanks for the feeback. Im always just paranoid usually. But again, much appreciated. Makes me feel at ease. much love.
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