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SeVeN
07-28-2008, 12:16 PM
Oh fuck. Did a small shot saturday in deacatur. It was my test shot. Did the same amount and next thing I know Im coming too in little five points.

Thank God I was with a freind who I really consider to my little bro. He was smart enough to call the police when I know there are lots of people who wouldnt have. He also gave me chest rubs and tried CPR till the paramedics came.

The fire Dept people thought I was dead and were gonna bag me but the paramedic noticed otherwise and gave me a cc of narcan.

When I came too it was like coming out of a dream and up through a body of water to take a deep breath.

I still remember coming from blackness with some sound around me to having tons of police and Emt's and rubber neckers looking at me.

I had no problems telling the police that I did heroin, since lying about it then would really have been the dumbest thing.

Since I was honest and responsive the cop told me he wasn't going to charge me with anything. He was really cool. He kinda hinted that something similiar had happened to him or someone he knows. I left it at that and wasnt going to pry. He told me the dope he usually sees is shitty as hell and I got some "good stuff" as if I didn't learn that. He also told me about when he got 80 OC's from an operation.

Any ways. I never thought it couldn't happen to me. Just that it wouldn't:rolleyes:. So theres my story from this weekend.

nick
07-28-2008, 12:32 PM
Please be careful because anyone can od and no high is worth the big sleep.

Glad you're still with us man.

SeVeN
07-28-2008, 12:42 PM
Yup. Like I said I've truly understood that people think it wont or cant happen to them, but that really wasnt me.

I even did a test shot. But yet still I did almost take the big dirt nap. And thanks for your care. Its fuckin great to be alive.

rockbottom
07-28-2008, 01:12 PM
happens to the best of us-- i reached the point where i always let someone else go first on a new batch-- i've saved 3 lives calling 911 immidiatly---lost a good friend trying homemade remedies--back in the day when no one knew cpr---any way good luck and good friend was with u ~Peace~ Rock:cool:

Chicago
07-28-2008, 01:24 PM
4 all to no. U CAN NOT GET IN ANY TROUBLE FOR AN OD. FACT. Unless you have drugs around you or on you. I mean if u od , you can not be in any trouble.

Allways tell the emt whats ur buddy did, they are just doing there job. They do not care it will just make things alot easier. ON EVERYONE.

WHENEVER SOMEONE OD'S AROUND & I CALL 911, I SAY I GOT A MALE/FEMALE OPIATE OVERDOSE. & BAMM EMT COMES PREPARED, BUT TILL THEY COME GET RIDD OF ALL & EVERYTHING ILLEAGAL.....

SeVeN
07-28-2008, 01:28 PM
Yeh my buddy took everything out of my pockets and ditched it.

Thanks for the support guys. And Im sure if the cop wanted to they could give me some BS charge. But I think the main thing was that I didnt have the rig or dope on me and I copped to what I did as soon as he asked.

PrincessOfPills
07-28-2008, 04:03 PM
glad your ok dude! be careful out there!

i really dont think the shit in the bluff is good enough to od on, so im pretty sure im safe

sidman
07-28-2008, 04:16 PM
I've O.D.'d more than a few times and it was always a small amount that did me in. I was very lucky to have been in the presence of people who give a shit enough not to let me remain purple and die.
I was amazed at the quickness with which the H would drop me to the floor, most of the time the needle still in my arm.
Alot of people I once knew are now dead through similar occurences.
Some dealers purposely put out "Hot" dope so they can drum up business for their "Label" and the crazy shit is that when I would hear about people dying on some strong shit I would want to know the name and then go searching for it too! I know I'm not alone either !!
Crazy shit addicts do to keep the wheels turning..........
The cop you had was cool but most of them could care less if an addict dies or not. Alot of cops are addicts but it's alright because they are "fuctioning" and all that red-tape horseshit.....

jimmyfingers
07-28-2008, 04:38 PM
its good that your buddy did the right thing. i live down in atlanta. were there a bunch of people around you when you woke up? i know how busy little 5 can be. you must have a good connect to OD. most shit ive done down here, I dont think you could even OD off of it.
i OD at a movie theatre and woke up in an ambulance in Manhatten with cops going through my pockets. Lucky I had nothing on me.

SeVeN
07-28-2008, 05:27 PM
its good that your buddy did the right thing. i live down in atlanta. were there a bunch of people around you when you woke up? i know how busy little 5 can be. you must have a good connect to OD. most shit ive done down here, I dont think you could even OD off of it.
i OD at a movie theatre and woke up in an ambulance in Manhatten with cops going through my pockets. Lucky I had nothing on me.


Yeh TONS of people were around me when I came to. The dope is the best I can find. But with that said, man I only did a pretty small bit. I did the used cotton when I got home a little bit ago. and got pretty decent off that. I still feel really fucking weird truthfully. The narcan is a crazy drug. I was still pretty high when I was in the hospital and had fuckin pin point pupils after the naloxone.

GOLD N DIEMONDS
07-28-2008, 05:33 PM
FENT/DOPE ??? I'm glad you're ok. Why didn't the test shot work for you do think?

Larry
07-28-2008, 06:37 PM
Damn man, Im really happy your alright, sounds almost exactly what happen to me with my fentanyl OD, Just the blackness, and you couldnt of worded it any better "dream and up through a body of water to take a deep breath" , Becareful bro and take it easy - Larry

bronyraur
07-28-2008, 06:47 PM
Glad to hear you're OK.

Your friend definitely is a good person.

jonny-5
07-28-2008, 06:54 PM
glad youre ok bro. the thread title reminds me of a nofx song.

Scribbler
07-28-2008, 07:30 PM
Glad you got a sound cop and are feeling OK now! The joys of illegal drug use eh? ;)

glad youre ok bro. the thread title reminds me of a nofx song.

Whoops I od'd, shortness of breath, call ambulance, tell my wife I ...

Mayo
07-28-2008, 07:41 PM
damn. glad you're here to tell the tale.

Naomi
07-29-2008, 08:21 AM
crikey, glad you are ok, also. i 'died a little death' in april. so embarrasing, woke up with clothes cut off and a weird machine and 3 paramedics. i still had £40 of drugs in my house but luckily, as i got taken to hospital, my then boyf came with me, and later the police knocked! obviously, we werent there, lucky because he was a noob and just left it on the side, even when the paramedics came! they were really nice to me, calling me 'poppet' and saying it was 'ok' every time i apologised for wasting their time. well, i wasn't, i had respitory failure!

the next morning, the guys coming round to check you before discharge, made my hear rate machine beep like crazy and nurses came running. why? because the same doctor was coming round that had treated me a week before! i was mortified as he said "i would prefer not to see you here ever again if you can help it, be careful,". darn, i felt foolish. :rolleyes:

Poppylvr
07-29-2008, 08:31 AM
Oh fuck. .

Any ways. I never thought it couldn't happen to me. Just that it wouldn't:rolleyes:. So theres my story from this weekend.

Oh man, SeVeN, I'm glad you lived. That is one good friend to call the police for you.
One of the kids I took care of in our street teen clinic wasn't so lucky. His "Friends" let him die, and then they dumped his body in a ravine so they wouldn't get caught:(. This happened just after I left that clinic. Made me sick that kids I know would be that stupid/selfish. The nurse that followed me arranged a lcass on how to do rescue breathing & don't worry about calling 911 for od's. Hope it saves the next kid's life.
SeVeN, please be careful:confused:

SeVeN
07-29-2008, 09:15 AM
FENT/DOPE ??? I'm glad you're ok. Why didn't the test shot work for you do think?

I don't know. I guesse it did I should have stopped after the test shot. It wasnt a huge feeling or anything so thats why I figured it was ok to do the same amount later.

glad youre ok bro. the thread title reminds me of a nofx song.

Yeh thanks. The thread title is from the NoFx song as it keeps running through my head.

crikey, glad you are ok, also. i 'died a little death' in april. so embarrasing, woke up with clothes cut off and a weird machine and 3 paramedics. i still had £40 of drugs in my house but luckily, as i got taken to hospital, my then boyf came with me, and later the police knocked! obviously, we werent there, lucky because he was a noob and just left it on the side, even when the paramedics came! they were really nice to me, calling me 'poppet' and saying it was 'ok' every time i apologised for wasting their time. well, i wasn't, i had respitory failure!

:rolleyes:

Yeh I kept telling the emt's I knew they would rather be helping other people but thanks for saving my life. Everyone was real nice though.

xxanxx
07-29-2008, 11:27 PM
glad youre ok bro. the thread title reminds me of a nofx song.

Yeah, shortness of breath.....glad you're ok.

goagirl23
07-30-2008, 12:32 AM
FYI you can keep someone alive during an od by breathing for them until the paramedics come. Here's some info on how to do it:
The basic premise of rescue breathing is simple enough.

The air we breathe in is about 21 percent oxygen and the air we breathe out is about 16 percent oxygen. That means there's more than enough oxygen left over to keep someone else alive in an emergency. Rescue breathing is the technique that gets it to them.

If you discover in the primary survey that a person is not breathing and requires life support, start by rolling the victim onto his/her back, if necessary.

Make sure the airway is open and check for and remove any obvious obstructions in the mouth (gum, dentures, vomitus, or other fluids).

Position your ear over the person's nose and mouth, and check for breathing for 3-5 seconds. If there's no breath, pinch the nostrils shut.

Then take a deep breath, open your mouth wide, and form a seal with your lips around the person's mouth.

Exhale for 1-1.5 seconds, which should be enough to make the person's chest rise. Pause between rescue breaths to inhale.

Then look, listen, and feel for chest movements or the sound of escaping air.

If you don't detect breathing, re-check the carotid pulse for 5-10 seconds.

If the victim still isn't breathing, but does have a pulse, resume rescue breathing.

If there is no pulse, begin CPR.
Special Problems Although rescue breathing is a fairly simple technique, you need to be careful not to force air into the person's stomach.

Air in the stomach can cause vomiting, which raises the risk of a different type of potentially-lethal problem -- aspiration of vomit fluids into the lungs.
To avoid breathing air into the stomach, the Red Cross recommends the following safeguards:

Make sure the person's head is tilted all the way back.

Don't force too much air into the victim's lungs. Breathe in only enough to make the chest rise.
Pause to let the victim's lungs empty between breaths.

Another special problem that can arise during rescue breathing is vomiting.

If this happens, quickly tilt the person's head and body to the side. Afterwards, wipe away any vomited material, and resume rescue breathing, if necessary.

You can find more info if you google rescue breathing too....

oxymoronluvr
07-30-2008, 01:01 AM
new mexico has a bill or a law by now saying that the cops can't chage you with anything for oding, and they can't harass your friends eather. i guess a rash of od's caused some smart political person to think of this. it is really saving lives now cause people are no longer paranoid to call 911. i think the whole nation should be like this.

antigonemuse
07-30-2008, 01:02 AM
i had to bring one person back before. it was very traumaic. Looking over at his face and seeing him greyish blue, with purple lips, no pulse or heartbeat.... so scared between compressions and life breaths that he wouldnt come to...

im telling ya, it was scarry shit


i feel out three imes, with now one around, but by the grace of god came out of it. not a typical nod either.... once in the shwer for over 7 hours, leavng a huge gash on my back from the faucet; once in he kitchen, head hitting the stive, moving it two feet, when i came to the whole side of my face was black blue and purple; and the last time was when my boyfriend woke me up when he came out the bedroom for work in the morning, and i was still tied off, needle in arm, and baggies all around me (my head was hanging about an inch from a light bulb) - it musta been a really good shot.... i cleared neary a half a brick in about 14 hours that day.... I really dont now what i was thinking

Somanax
07-30-2008, 01:30 AM
FYI you can keep someone alive during an od by breathing for them until the paramedics come. Here's some info on how to do it: The basic premise of rescue breathing is simple enough.

The air we breathe in is about 21 percent oxygen and the air we breathe out is about 16 percent oxygen. That means there's more than enough oxygen left over to keep someone else alive in an emergency. Rescue breathing is the technique that gets it to them.

If you discover in the primary survey that a person is not breathing and requires life support, start by rolling the victim onto his/her back, if necessary.

Make sure the airway is open and check for and remove any obvious obstructions in the mouth (gum, dentures, vomitus, or other fluids).

Position your ear over the person's nose and mouth, and check for breathing for 3-5 seconds. If there's no breath, pinch the nostrils shut.

Then take a deep breath, open your mouth wide, and form a seal with your lips around the person's mouth.

Exhale for 1-1.5 seconds, which should be enough to make the person's chest rise. Pause between rescue breaths to inhale.

Then look, listen, and feel for chest movements or the sound of escaping air.

If you don't detect breathing, re-check the carotid pulse for 5-10 seconds.

If the victim still isn't breathing, but does have a pulse, resume rescue breathing.

If there is no pulse, begin CPR.
Special Problems Although rescue breathing is a fairly simple technique, you need to be careful not to force air into the person's stomach.

Air in the stomach can cause vomiting, which raises the risk of a different type of potentially-lethal problem -- aspiration of vomit fluids into the lungs.
To avoid breathing air into the stomach, the Red Cross recommends the following safeguards:

Make sure the person's head is tilted all the way back.

Don't force too much air into the victim's lungs. Breathe in only enough to make the chest rise.
Pause to let the victim's lungs empty between breaths.

Another special problem that can arise during rescue breathing is vomiting.

If this happens, quickly tilt the person's head and body to the side. Afterwards, wipe away any vomited material, and resume rescue breathing, if necessary.

You can find more info if you google rescue breathing too....




Buy your friend a D.O.C.

And watch his/her back

Congrat's on your continued survival

It can't last forever .......That sounded wrong

However if you do anything long enough

Old age will kill us ........Right???:rolleyes:

antigonemuse
07-30-2008, 04:10 AM
i had to bring one person back before. it was very traumaic. Looking over at his face and seeing him greyish blue, with purple lips, no pulse or heartbeat.... so scared between compressions and life breaths that he wouldnt come to...

im telling ya, it was scarry shit


i feel out three imes, with now one around, but by the grace of god came out of it. not a typical nod either.... once in the shwer for over 7 hours, leavng a huge gash on my back from the faucet; once in he kitchen, head hitting the stive, moving it two feet, when i came to the whole side of my face was black blue and purple; and the last time was when my boyfriend woke me up when he came out the bedroom for work in the morning, and i was still tied off, needle in arm, and baggies all around me (my head was hanging about an inch from a light bulb) - it musta been a really good shot.... i cleared neary a half a brick in about 14 hours that day.... I really dont now what i was thinking


I have been CPR certified since 01, and am up to date until November The advantages to direct care work, and working in the hospital). I neverr had to use it until i started hanging out with junkies...

SeVeN
07-30-2008, 11:23 AM
i had to bring one person back before. it was very traumaic. Looking over at his face and seeing him greyish blue, with purple lips, no pulse or heartbeat.... so scared between compressions and life breaths that he wouldnt come to...

im telling ya, it was scarry shit


i feel out three imes, with now one around, but by the grace of god came out of it. not a typical nod either.... once in the shwer for over 7 hours, leavng a huge gash on my back from the faucet; once in he kitchen, head hitting the stive, moving it two feet, when i came to the whole side of my face was black blue and purple; and the last time was when my boyfriend woke me up when he came out the bedroom for work in the morning, and i was still tied off, needle in arm, and baggies all around me (my head was hanging about an inch from a light bulb) - it musta been a really good shot.... i cleared neary a half a brick in about 14 hours that day.... I really dont now what i was thinking


I've fallen out twice before this. I did once at my house. I woke up in the bathroom with a needle next to me. I must have ran in there to splash water on my face. When I came to I couldnt feel or move either of my arms. So when I finally got myself up I stood in front of the mirror twirling side to side to get my arms moving LoL. Well they eventually worked.

The time after that I was in a "buddies" car and fell out hard. He was too bitch to take me to the hospital so he drove around for like 3 hours. Luckily I came too and was still fucked the hell up.

Chicago
07-30-2008, 11:33 AM
when around i.v. users who od.
This is how it goes.
1rst. they shoot there dope, then say wow it's good then there legs or knee's buckle or give out & here come's the floor. & they be blue.
fuck it we all no this don't feel like tytping

Cherry's Jubilee
07-30-2008, 11:48 AM
Buy your friend a D.O.C.

And watch his/her back

Congrat's on your continued survival

It can't last forever .......That sounded wrong

However if you do anything long enough

Old age will kill us ........Right???:rolleyes:

Everything is temporary if you give it enough time...

SeVeN
07-30-2008, 12:06 PM
when around i.v. users who od.
This is how it goes.
1rst. they shoot there dope, then say wow it's good then there legs or knee's buckle or give out & here come's the floor. & they be blue.
fuck it we all no this don't feel like tytping


Yup. Im suprised I actually made it out of the car and managed to walk around a bit. None of that I remember though.

Synack
08-06-2008, 10:09 PM
kinda makes me wonder is the big sleep - the ultimate high? :p

Glad your okay though.

jersey_emt
08-15-2008, 09:42 AM
I'm glad to hear you got the treatment you needed and that you are OK.

A few years ago when I was working full-time as an EMT in a city in New Jersey that had a moderately high amount of heroin usage, treating opioid overdoses was pretty common. I've treated my fair share of heroin and other opioid overdoses. They most definitely came in waves -- a stronger than normal shipment would come in and many people OD'd over the next week or so. Then it would die down as people became aware of the high potency, and we'd only get a handful of calls until the next 'good' batch of heroin came in the area.

I treated all of my patients with respect, even the junkies. They were in a situation where improper care would have most likely resulted in their death, so I never felt it was a waste of my time to treat them. We weren't the only ambulance crew in the city, and even if everyone was tied up in calls we had agreements with the surrounding towns and cities where one of their rigs would come in to handle a call if everyone here was tied up (and vice versa -- if all of their crews were busy and a call went out in their jurisdiction, we would send out one of our rigs if it was available). Although, I do have to admit, I did get somewhat annoyed when someone ended up being a 'regular'. But that did not stop me from treating them with respect. While there are certainly some bad apples amongst us, most EMT's have a similar outlook. They're just there to give you the medical attention you need. Just be sure to hide anything illegal before we get there, as police are dispatched to many 911 calls (especially overdoses), and even if no police are present, in some jurisdictions EMT's are required to report certain things to the police, like visible illegal drugs or paraphernalia, or evidence of domestic / child abuse, etc. But you can't get in trouble if the only drugs present are the ones already inside your body.

Indy
08-15-2008, 11:07 AM
I treated all of my patients with respect, even the junkies. .

I am always amazed by the amount of people on here who work, or have worked as EMT's. I wonder if there's some kind of connection (i mean, i'm sure there's SOME correlation, but i wonder if there's a really strong link) between that.

Although.....the statement i quoted kind of bothered me....i'm not sure how to take it. When you say "even the junkies" that kind of tends to imply that there is some reason they SHOULDN'T be treated with respect. Like when somebody says "I'd be in a good mood if i got paid, even if i stubbed my toe", that implies that although stubbing your toe would put you in a worse mood normally, since he got paid, he'd still be in a good mood.

Maybe it's just a misunderstanding, poor choice of words or whatever, but i couldn't help but point that out. I don't see any reason why in your situation a junkie SHOULDN'T be treated with the same respect. On the other hand, i can see how maybe you meant that most OTHER emt's don't treat them with respect.

red26
08-15-2008, 03:46 PM
I've definately fallen out a few times or so. At the methadone clinic I use to go to there was this cat that nodded out for a few hours kneeling and lost the use of his feet. What a fuckin bummer huh? He's gotta wear these prothetic achillis tendons to walk. I know that since I started using like I typically do and have o.d. so many times I got some drain bamage and it bums me out, but it could be worse right?

thesixgun
09-07-2008, 11:14 PM
Whoops I od'd, shortness of breath, call ambulance, tell my wife I ...

Error in judgement cut my life..

seein them next month.

frankie
09-08-2008, 05:12 PM
Oh fuck. Did a small shot saturday in deacatur. It was my test shot. Did the same amount and next thing I know Im coming too in little five points.

Thank God I was with a freind who I really consider to my little bro. He was smart enough to call the police when I know there are lots of people who wouldnt have. He also gave me chest rubs and tried CPR till the paramedics came.

The fire Dept people thought I was dead and were gonna bag me but the paramedic noticed otherwise and gave me a cc of narcan.

When I came too it was like coming out of a dream and up through a body of water to take a deep breath.

I still remember coming from blackness with some sound around me to having tons of police and Emt's and rubber neckers looking at me.

I had no problems telling the police that I did heroin, since lying about it then would really have been the dumbest thing.

Since I was honest and responsive the cop told me he wasn't going to charge me with anything. He was really cool. He kinda hinted that something similiar had happened to him or someone he knows. I left it at that and wasnt going to pry. He told me the dope he usually sees is shitty as hell and I got some "good stuff" as if I didn't learn that. He also told me about when he got 80 OC's from an operation.

Any ways. I never thought it couldn't happen to me. Just that it wouldn't:rolleyes:. So theres my story from this weekend.
thanks to god that your ok, be careful with that shit man i see so many people go down on it, although i am not a heroin user i can't imagine what it's like to od. but stay well and oh by the way i used to live on decauter street in the french quarter years ago it was a fun town but that is were i had my incident with the police and booked back home to new york city...stay safe

Cherry's Jubilee
09-08-2008, 05:40 PM
Although.....the statement i quoted kind of bothered me....i'm not sure how to take it. When you say "even the junkies" that kind of tends to imply that there is some reason they SHOULDN'T be treated with respect. Like when somebody says "I'd be in a good mood if i got paid, even if i stubbed my toe", that implies that although stubbing your toe would put you in a worse mood normally, since he got paid, he'd still be in a good mood.

Maybe it's just a misunderstanding, poor choice of words or whatever, but i couldn't help but point that out. I don't see any reason why in your situation a junkie SHOULDN'T be treated with the same respect. On the other hand, i can see how maybe you meant that most OTHER emt's don't treat them with respect.

I had the exact same response as Indy when I read this. If it was a poor choice of words, it was a very, very poor choice of words...offensive, in fact. Oh great and powerful EMT please bestow your kindness and good graces upon us poor, pathetic, unworthy junkies. Please keep in mind you're JUST a fuckin EMT. :rolleyes:

bronyraur
09-08-2008, 08:13 PM
I had the exact same response as Indy when I read this. If it was a poor choice of words, it was a very, very poor choice of words...offensive, in fact. Oh great and powerful EMT please bestow your kindness and good graces upon us poor, pathetic, unworthy junkies. Please keep in mind you're JUST a fuckin EMT. :rolleyes:

I honestly don' think jersey meant that in a negative/offensive way, especially considering the fairly recent traumatic incident he/she had in the emergency room–which happened because the ER folks thought that jersey was abusing his/her pain medications–as thus was treated like a junkie.

Just a misunderstanding, I hope.

jonny-5
09-08-2008, 08:17 PM
yea he had a horrible experience at the ER. i hope youre sewing thos bastards jersey.

Cherry's Jubilee
09-08-2008, 09:58 PM
yea he had a horrible experience at the ER. i hope youre sewing thos bastards jersey.

ohhh...was he the one that was given fucking narcan for absolutely no legitimate reason?? that is unbelievably terrible. sorry, i didn't make that connection. he definitely doesn't seem like someone that would be unsympathetic towards junkies though so i'm sure i took it the wrong way. thanks for clarifying brony.

Duckfeet
09-08-2008, 10:12 PM
Different people use vocabulary differently, and nowadays I guess vocabulary is huge...but I wasn't offended: I like accurate terminology that doesn't pretend to spare my feelings just to make me feel better...I'm an old fucking junky ...I'm not "sick", or to be pitied either...I'd rather be called a junky, and know where I stand w/docs...than get that loving look I hate, and be condescended to...and still not given any dope...

Nobody is ever "stupid" or "bad" or "crazy" anymore...too bad, I kind of liked it when there were more of us around ...I guess "junkies" went the same way as "teachers" and "garbage collectors" ;-)

SeVeN
09-08-2008, 10:31 PM
Different people use vocabulary differently, and nowadays I guess vocabulary is huge...but I wasn't offended: I like accurate terminology that doesn't pretend to spare my feelings just to make me feel better...I'm an old fucking junky ...I'm not "sick", or to be pitied either...I'd rather be called a junky, and know where I stand w/docs...than get that loving look I hate, and be condescended to...and still not given any dope...

Nobody is ever "stupid" or "bad" or "crazy" anymore...too bad, I kind of liked it when there were more of us around ...I guess "junkies" went the same way as "teachers" and "garbage collectors" ;-)


Hey hey. Thats an educator and a sanitational engineer.

More Feen
09-09-2008, 02:52 PM
In the US is it difficult to get Narcan/Nalloxone, or is it expensive to buy?

Just wondering if having some of this available "just in case" might be a good idea for some.

Like some people with severe allergic reactions keeping epinephrine (adrenaline) in their fridges in case they go anaphylactic.

I can see where having some Narcan at your house might be seen as "planning to fail" (Just avoid the od in the 1st place!).

I've read some of your OD experiences and it sounds like you don't have much time between the injection and unconsciousness. Some have said they woke up hours later with the needle still in their arm!!

I guess in those circumstances, one would not have the time to find an ampule of Narcan, load a syringe, find a suitable vein and administer the antagonist. But if there were another person there, they could help out.

One might even be able to completely treat an OD without involving medics, as long as they had enough Narcan for multiple injections (if needed). I've heard of people being brought back with Narcan, only to have the Narcan wear-off allowing the DOC to re-attach to the receptor and the person loses consciousness again.

MF

LorTabitha
09-09-2008, 03:52 PM
I've heard it's available at some needle exchanges.