Oxycodone in NIDA-5

[Philadelphia]

In the NIDA-5, they test for the following:

Cannabinoids (marijuana, hash)
Cocaine (cocaine, crack, benzoylecognine)
Amphetamines (amphetamines, methamphetamines, speed)
Opiates (heroin, opium, codeine, morphine)
Phencyclidine (PCP)

This is the test I took recently for a job. Now I read on erowid.org that:

"Basic urine drug tests which test for opiates test primarily for morphine (which both heroin and codeine break down into). Morphine is not a major metabolite of oxycodone, so these standard opiate tests generally do not succesfully detect low to moderate oxycodone use"

I wanted to know if any of you agree with that or not? It seems a bit odd to me that OCs wouldn't come up on a drug test.

[jacky]

stay away from effexor or tramadol if you want to NOT test positive for PCP. these are related compounds , and they must have some similiar breakdown products as PCP, or they must be similiar in of themselves.

[Philadelphia]

well a little update i passed the drug test and got the job ......... so i guess it's true, OCs don't come up on standard nida-5 tests ..

[jwalm]

does the DOT use NIDA 5 standard drug test?

[Philadelphia]

probably, its the cheapest and most standard,

theres nida-5 which are explained above,
then nida-5 w/ alcohol with obviously tests

then theres nida-5 expanded, which tests


Barbiturates (http://www.healthy.net/clinic/lab/labtest/002.htm) (Phenobarbital, Secobarbitol, Butalbital)
Hydrocodone (Lortab, Vicodin)
Methaqualone (Qualuudes)
Benzodiazepines (http://www.healthy.net/clinic/lab/labtest/003.htm) (Valium, Xanax, Librium, Serax, Rohypnol)
Methadone
Propoxyphene (Darvon compounds)
Ethanol (http://www.healthy.net/clinic/lab/labtest/006.htm) (Alcohol)
MDMA (Ecstasy)and then theres additional tests for...

LSD
Tryptamines (Psilocybin, AMT, DMT, DPT, 5-MeO-DiPT)
Phenethylamines (Mescaline, MDMA, MDA, MDE, 2C-B, 2C-T-7)
Inhalents (Toluene, Xylene, Benzene)

[chemboy7]

OxyContin will cause a possitive result in any test that checks for the presence of opoid metabolites. If you passed with oxycodone metabolites in your body your one lucky bastard, I wouldn't think that you found a loophole in the systems as you are bound to screw yourself on future test or lead others astray in this forum. If you did still have the metabolites in your body in sufficent quanties to be picked up by the NIDA-5 I would say it's because of 1 of 3 reasons:

1. Act of God - Maybe he did you a heavy.

2. Faulty Test - Those panel test are notorious for giving false possitives, why not negatives too?

3. Insufficent Plasma Levels - Perhaps you have a speedy metabolism or the oxycodone was injested at such a time that it wouldn't be available in the urine yet (I believe it's a full 48 hours before those panel piss test can pick up on adequeat levels).

[chemboy7]

"Basic urine drug tests which test for opiates test primarily for morphine (which both heroin and codeine break down into). Morphine is not a major metabolite of oxycodone, so these standard opiate tests generally do not succesfully detect low to moderate oxycodone use"

I wanted to know if any of you agree with that or not? It seems a bit odd to me that OCs wouldn't come up on a drug test.






Well, Codiene type drugs are metabolized into morphine type metabolites in the body. Codiene itself metabolizes into morphine (which is why it is active). I would assume that Oxycodone would metabolize into an oxymorphinone type drug, which would definately be picked up on any drug test regardless of how simple it may be. I also believe that the NIDA-5 can pick up on opaites other than the Mophine related, probably anything derived from Thebaine or Morphine, although I will have to do some research. Probably the only opaites that are shielded from the NIDA-5 are Methadone (doubtful being that Loperamide will trigger a false possitive on these test) and Propoxyphene (likely) being completely synthetic (using no alkaloids from nature or poppies as chemical templates). But like I said, that's pure speculation on my part, what I am sure of is the ability for Oxycodone to fuck you on the NIDA -5.

[THEPAINTER1960]

In the NIDA-5, they test for the following:

Cannabinoids (marijuana, hash)
Cocaine (cocaine, crack, benzoylecognine)
Amphetamines (amphetamines, methamphetamines, speed)
Opiates (heroin, opium, codeine, morphine)
Phencyclidine (PCP)

This is the test I took recently for a job. Now I read on erowid.org that:

"Basic urine drug tests which test for opiates test primarily for morphine (which both heroin and codeine break down into). Morphine is not a major metabolite of oxycodone, so these standard opiate tests generally do not succesfully detect low to moderate oxycodone use"

I wanted to know if any of you agree with that or not? It seems a bit odd to me that OCs wouldn't come up on a drug test.
I dont know man any time that i had to take a panel test like that i just brought my own clean urine and put it in speciman jar any time i went for a test no one ever went in with me it was never like a probation screen. But even if they did i would still get it in. If theres a will there is a way. just trust me.

[marblehead]

I work with a dude that eats oxy's like candy. He kept dropping pallets in the warehouse so they sent him for a drug test at one of those shitty clinics that specialize in testing/physicals( their doc's are retarded assholes, but thats another story) He ate a 40 at 7 in the morning and they sent him at 11 am he paniced and drank a bunch of water. His flippin test came back neg but diluted so when he got the results they said you got to go again(WTF) so he did (allconditions same as before, includin' the oc) and the test came back the same neg but diluted. I could NOT believe he tested neg. I told him to call our union if they try to send him again and file a grievience for the hell of it. If he tested positive they sure as hell woulden't give him a second chance why should he keep going, he passed twice. If anyone should have failed it was him. I know if we get hurt at work on the weekend they send us to the hospital and they seem to be more thurough , at least in their questioning i don't know if the test is the same I don't want to find out but like i said I was amazed he passed! this was about a year ago I don't know if the tests have changed

[paperrabbit]

jacky do you know of tramadol causing a positive for PCP? Everything I seem to read says it shouldn't show up at all....
Just curious, I have to take a test next week and I think it's a ten panel (and I take tramadol every day)

[MIVgezzer]

The way it was explained to me by a MD was that all opiats realease an acic ( some metabiloite) that the test looks for, not the drug itself, poppy seed cake will do a positive, I never got a nod on that stuff but I ate more than enought to tell there ius no moriphine in it... you might have gotta false neg... lucky you, they NEVER talk about them, and I would not to my bosses... Oxy will give ya a pos on the test. so don't get to comfortable thinking your getting over.

Have a great day
MIV G

[Levity]

As a rule of thumb, I always assume everything I've done in the past seven days will show up on a test.
When it comes back positive, just scream "false positive" and demand another test.
By the time they end up retesting you, you should of have seven days to flush your system.