View Full Version : Jan. 1, 2009 no more generic Oxys. AHHHHH
pharmboy
07-22-2008, 10:49 PM
Ok heres the question come Jan. 1st when you cant get generic Oxy anymore,
what long acting opiate should I switch to ? Im on SSD so I cant do the brand
thing ( well not for more than a couple of months ) .
I take 120mg of Oxy a day ( and its never enough )
Plus dilaudid or Levo-Dromoran for break through.
Anyone in the same boat should probably start thinking about this now.
Narkotikon
07-22-2008, 10:52 PM
Thought about Fent patches? Would you be able to afford that. I'm guess not if you won't be able to get brand OC. What about switching you to another form of OC, like Oxy IR or Roxicodone, given several times a day. Hope things work out for you.
Consumed.
07-22-2008, 10:57 PM
You can get a doc to say brand name only. I knew this guy who used to pretend like all these different generic names made him paranoid and didnt want to take them. He acted like he was schizo everytime they gave him a new generic. For medicaid the doctor has to call medicaid every single time the scripts need to be filled and go through a fifteen minute process for each script.
Anyway medicaid pays for everything brand name, and its a lot of stuff.
Princess
07-22-2008, 10:59 PM
That's what my doctor did. My insurance wont cover oxycontin at ALL so he put me on the oxycodone ir 30mg, 2 pills every 4-6 hours instead of oxycontin. And my daily dosage isn't ever enough either ;)
Thought about Fent patches? Would you be able to afford that. I'm guess not if you won't be able to get brand OC. What about switching you to another form of OC, like Oxy IR or Roxicodone, given several times a day. Hope things work out for you.
OxyDust
07-24-2008, 07:14 AM
They are fucking us over (God damn expensive purdue oxy:mad:). My father is on 160mg's of oxycontin a day and 150 mg's of roxicodone a day. What should he do come january 1st? He can't afford the name brand oxy (insurance wont cover it)! More roxicodone? that would be like 12 30mg pills a day and he NEEDS an around the clock pain killer like oxycontin!
Opiyum
07-24-2008, 12:23 PM
Without competition has Purdue said or done anything about lowering their prices?
Woody Bear
07-24-2008, 12:52 PM
I did a little bit of interet searching to find out about this. I take it, that some companies are stopping selling generic Oxy because Purdue who hold the patent for Oxycotin, sued several generic manufactures, Teva and Endo. They came to an agreement to stop selling generic Oxycotin. But Watson Pharmaceuticals is continuing to sell an authorized generic version of oxycodone, because they have an agreement with Purdue, and are Purdues only authorised company to sell generic Oxycotin. So unless Watson Pharmaceuticals is going to stop selling generic Oxy, it should continue to be sold in pharmacies in 2009 and beyond.
S.D.N.Y. Dismisses Oxycontin Patent Case Between Purdue Pharma and Teva
by David S. Harper
The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York issued an Order earlier this week dismissing the patent case Purdue Pharma brought against Teva to protect Oxycontin from generic competition. Oxycontin, a controlled-release formulation of oxycodone, is a widely-prescribed pain killer with annual sales of $2 billion. The court dismissed the case because of a settlement agreement reached by the parties in August. Under the terms of the settlement, Teva will stop selling generic oxycodone no later than March 31, 2007 and Purdue will not pursue damages against Teva for past infringement.
Last February, in a related case that Purdue brought against Endo Pharmaceuticals, the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit reversed a district court finding that Purdue's patents were procured through inequitable conduct, and remanded the case. In an August 28th post, we reported that Purdue and Endo settled that litigation, with Endo agreeing to stop selling generic oxycontin by the end of this year and Purdue agreeing not to pursue damages for Endo's past infringement.
Purdue is still fighting Impax Labs over generic oxycodone sold by Impax's Global Pharmaceuticals division. That litigation is pending in the S.D.N.Y. The patents-in-suit are U.S. Patent Nos. 5,656,295; 5,266,331; and 5,508,042. The last of these patents will not expire until 2013.
Meanwhile, Watson Pharmaceuticals is continuing to sell an authorized generic version of oxycodone.
Source:http://www.orangebookblog.com/2006/10/court_dismisses.html
Watson Pharmaceuticals Named Exclusive Distributor of Authorized Generic OxyContin(R) Tablets
CORONA, Calif., Oct. 18 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Watson Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (NYSE: WPI), a leading specialty pharmaceutical company, announced today that, under a supply agreement with Purdue Pharma L.P., Watson has been appointed as the exclusive distributor of authorized generic oxycodone HCl controlled-release tablets C-II in 10, 20, 40 and 80 mg dosage strengths. Oxycodone HCl is the generic version of Purdue's OxyContin(R) (C-II) Tablets, a narcotic analgesic indicated for the treatment of moderate to severe pain for patients in need of a continuous round-the-clock analgesic for an extended period of time. For the 12-months ending August 2005, OxyContin and generic equivalents had sales of approximately $2.0 billion, according to IMS Health data.
Under the terms of the supply agreement, Purdue will manufacture and supply the Oxycodone HCl tablets to Watson, which will market, sell and distribute the generic product in the United States. Purdue will receive a share of the profits from Watson's sales of the generic product in the U.S. market. Watson expects to launch the product shortly. Further details on the agreement have not been disclosed.
Source: http://ir.watson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=65778&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=769631
eveline
07-24-2008, 03:36 PM
They are fucking us over (God damn expensive purdue oxy:mad:). My father is on 160mg's of oxycontin a day and 150 mg's of roxicodone a day. What should he do come january 1st? He can't afford the name brand oxy (insurance wont cover it)! More roxicodone? that would be like 12 30mg pills a day and he NEEDS an around the clock pain killer like oxycontin!
There's also generic MS Contin, and like somebody already said, fent patches.
I did a little bit of interet searching to find out about this. I take it, that some companies are stopping selling generic Oxy because Purdue who hold the patent for Oxycotin, sued several generic manufactures, Teva and Endo. They came to an agreement to stop selling generic Oxycotin. But Watson Pharmaceuticals is continuing to sell an authorized generic version of oxycodone, because they have an agreement with Purdue, and are Purdues only authorised company to sell generic Oxycotin. So unless Watson Pharmaceuticals is going to stop selling generic Oxy, it should continue to be sold in pharmacies in 2009 and beyond.
Those articles are from 2006 and 2005, respectively. Watsons are gone, Endos are gone and in fact I thought Tevas were already gone too... see this sticky Roxi wrote: http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=16372
roxi*stardust
07-24-2008, 08:38 PM
As of this moment in time there is no generic OxyContin being made. Teva was the last to stop producing their generic and that happened at the end on Jan 2008. Currently there are no generics being made. It is possible that some pharmacies still have a stock of some generics but if they do it won't last too much longer. If you would like links I can provide them
They are fucking us over (God damn expensive purdue oxy:mad:). My father is on 160mg's of oxycontin a day and 150 mg's of roxicodone a day. What should he do come january 1st? He can't afford the name brand oxy (insurance wont cover it)! More roxicodone? that would be like 12 30mg pills a day and he NEEDS an around the clock pain killer like oxycontin!
See my post above. There is no generic. As long as there is no generic your dad's insurance should cover it. Unless of course it's like mine and won't cover Oxycontin at all, not even generics when they were available.
Hiram
07-24-2008, 09:46 PM
Without competition has Purdue said or done anything about lowering their prices?
Are you saying this isn't the result of a truly free market society? Let's refer to the Golden Rule. "He who controls the gold, controls the rules."
http://mooreslore.corante.com/archives/images/lobbyist.jpg
Woody Bear
07-25-2008, 06:44 AM
I just checked out Watson Pharmaceuticals webpage. http://www.watson.com/products/search_results_products.asp
I did a product search for Oxycodone, and 10 products came up. They were all combination oxycodone with asprin, APAP or ibuprofen. The strongest tablets contained 10 mg oxycodone, and there were no controlled release. Thats really bad news that there isn't any generic oxycodone anymore. I hope people will be able to switch over to something equally effective for them.
roxi*stardust
07-25-2008, 08:13 AM
http://www.ashp.org/s_ashp/resolved_bulletin.asp?id=252&CID=1499&DID=1543&sort=0
This is all you need to know. Purdue sued all the companies making generic OC. The federal court ruled that their patent was in force and ALL compnaies had to stop production by a certain date. That date has come and gone. At this time only Purdue is making OxyContin.
I did a little bit of interet searching to find out about this. I take it, that some companies are stopping selling generic Oxy because Purdue who hold the patent for Oxycotin, sued several generic manufactures, Teva and Endo. They came to an agreement to stop selling generic Oxycotin. But Watson Pharmaceuticals is continuing to sell an authorized generic version of oxycodone, because they have an agreement with Purdue, and are Purdues only authorised company to sell generic Oxycotin. So unless Watson Pharmaceuticals is going to stop selling generic Oxy, it should continue to be sold in pharmacies in 2009 and beyond.
This is VERY old. Watson was the first to stop production since they were making them for Purdue.
Trust me everyone-NO COMPANIES ARE PRODUCING GENERIC OXYCONTIN AS OF JAN 2008. NONE ZERO ZILCHO.
bodymore
07-25-2008, 11:07 AM
what long acting opiate should I switch to ?
Switch to heroin or come to Baltimore where 80s are only like $30 a pill on average
pharmboy
07-25-2008, 01:48 PM
Thanks Bodymore, I'll think about that one.
underide
07-25-2008, 05:33 PM
Yeah, but heroin is not particularly 'long acting' at all
ESPECIALLY compared to something like methadone.
They are fucking us over (God damn expensive purdue oxy:mad:). My father is on 160mg's of oxycontin a day and 150 mg's of roxicodone a day. What should he do come january 1st? He can't afford the name brand oxy (insurance wont cover it)! More roxicodone? that would be like 12 30mg pills a day and he NEEDS an around the clock pain killer like oxycontin!
Hi man,like underide point out above 'done is very long lasting and excellent for pain.Maybe suggest it to your pops.
pharmboy
07-26-2008, 12:51 AM
Well I take 120 mg of Oxy a day now, I'm thinking of switching to 160 - 200 mg
of Oramorph SR by Roxane. Roxane's a good company they make all kinds of
tasty goodies. I'v had them before and they do OK, not as good as Oxy but
maybe with an increase in dose it would work out Ok.
pharmboy
07-26-2008, 01:01 AM
If I could find a consistent, reliable, quality, H connect that has a reasonable
price I would definatly consider supplementing the Oramorph ( esp. if it
is dissapointing ) with that. But I haven't come across any of them lately. :cool::confused-
Well I take 120 mg of Oxy a day now, I'm thinking of switching to 160 - 200 mg
of Oramorph SR by Roxane. Roxane's a good company they make all kinds of
tasty goodies. I'v had them before and they do OK, not as good as Oxy but
maybe with an increase in dose it would work out Ok.
Yeah,I was rxed oramorph as part of a taper and I really didn't rate it.In fact it sucked.
I know it's all subjective,but I just thought I'd warn you.
Skeeter
07-31-2008, 04:11 PM
They are fucking us over (God damn expensive purdue oxy:mad:). My father is on 160mg's of oxycontin a day and 150 mg's of roxicodone a day. What should he do come january 1st? He can't afford the name brand oxy (insurance wont cover it)! More roxicodone? that would be like 12 30mg pills a day and he NEEDS an around the clock pain killer like oxycontin!
Insurance will be forced to cover it if it is the only option. Dont fret.:)
SHELLEY
07-31-2008, 06:00 PM
Are you saying this isn't the result of a truly free market society? Let's refer to the Golden Rule. "He who controls the gold, controls the rules."
http://mooreslore.corante.com/archives/images/lobbyist.jpg
and is that a problem! i don't think so at all...
capitalism isnt a bad thing man
although antitrust assholes will probably find a monopoly here, *sigh*
if they are allowed to define the market (ie: not "prescription drugs" but "long acting oxycodone")
they can find a monopoly anywhere...
jonny-5
07-31-2008, 06:36 PM
Well I take 120 mg of Oxy a day now, I'm thinking of switching to 160 - 200 mg
of Oramorph SR by Roxane. Roxane's a good company they make all kinds of
tasty goodies. I'v had them before and they do OK, not as good as Oxy but
maybe with an increase in dose it would work out Ok.
i dont think 160 -200 mg of morphine would be as strong as 120 mg of oxy, maybe try to get some opana?
edit: wait nevermind, i forgot cost was the issue.
Inspektahdek
08-07-2008, 01:37 AM
fent if you can afford it whether you're covered or if you can afford however much it costs, I heard it's quite expensive in cash in the US. If you want to save moneys, go with Methadone, it's been around near 60 years now and is plenty cheap. :D
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