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Groggy
07-13-2008, 01:08 PM
I had a buddy who was in the hospital for pancreatic cancer. we went to visit him and puffed him down in his room. the nurses kinda got pissed and discharged him. he managed to get out with the IV intact.

he shot a lotta dope into the IV on the street. always wondered if next time I get into a hospital stay if I should keep the IV. what kinda risks am I running by keepin the IV?

Nate
07-13-2008, 01:14 PM
I can't answer the question completely, but I imagine having a line in for extended peroids would increase the risk of infection.

I am sure a health professional will have better insight.

xxanxx
07-13-2008, 01:38 PM
I think it would need to be removed after a few days, 3 max. As nate said, you will get a response from someone more knowledgeable....

nick
07-13-2008, 01:45 PM
Yeah,Nate et al are right,infection is pretty likely and can be deadly.

I-Nod
07-13-2008, 01:52 PM
You sure he didn't have a 'port' put in? My mom and sister both had cancer last year and they had both gotten ports put in, which are sort of a semi-permanent IV port. They kept them in for at least 3 mths... not sure how long in total. But it saved them from getting stuck every other day for chemo and other medicines they'd have to take.

You said he had pancreatic cancer, so perhaps this is what he had put in, not sure, but yeah... a regular ole IV wouldn't be a good idea. I didn't think they'd let ya outta the hospital w/ one of those taped to ya...

Groggy
07-13-2008, 02:28 PM
maybe it was a port. it was taped to his wrist and went into his hand.didn't look like the cath I had stuck in my neck for dialysis.

irish
07-13-2008, 02:30 PM
Regular iv's are changed every three days. Beyond that you are risking a nasty infection.

Consumed.
07-13-2008, 03:16 PM
Regular iv's are changed every three days. Beyond that you are risking a nasty infection.

And they're kept clean sitting in a hospital bed. An IV out on the street? Just open to debri and shit... No way to clean it? Oh man that's the biggest abcess/infection waiting to happen.

Somanax
07-13-2008, 03:37 PM
If you wipe with alcohol

Then flush with sodium chloride.........

The only problem should be clotting

Unless you steal some heparin too....as in also ;)

Then you can bang away ....Not healthy

However it can/is convenient :D

I mean it is high risk.............

But what isn't ????

I-Nod
07-13-2008, 04:30 PM
it was taped to his wrist and went into his hand.didn't look like the cath I had stuck in my neck for dialysis.

Ahh, ok... it was just an IV. The cath you had in your neck is what I was referring to. Wouldn't it be nice to get one of those put in? Straight to the jugular, heh...

irish
07-13-2008, 04:44 PM
You wouldn't want to go home with the cath in your neck (central line). They fill it full of heparin so that it doesn't clot in the tube. The heparin has to be removed before anything is put in, otherwise you would push the heparin into your blood stream and start bleeding from everywhere, eyes, ass, nose, internally. It would likely kill you. Unless you are in a hospice or home-care situation, you really don't want an iv in.

roxi*stardust
07-13-2008, 04:52 PM
You must be talking about an Intravenous Access Port, usually just called and IV Port. Without HepLock Flush or NACL Flush to flush the port after each injection you would risk developing a embolism or blood clot. Not something you want. Not to mention the risk of infection.

jonny-5
07-13-2008, 05:39 PM
i used to want one, but now i think ill just stick to the old fashioned way.

SynthMorph
07-13-2008, 06:13 PM
How do i intstall one of these suckers?

DreamSellerInc
07-14-2008, 03:30 PM
This seems really interesting. Any Info from OP?

I mean, if all the precautions were taken: what would the benefits be?

nick
07-14-2008, 03:45 PM
This seems really interesting. Any Info from OP?

I mean, if all the precautions were taken: what would the benefits be?

Constant easy access to a vein.For some of us that's a big deal.

I should say....DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING THIS.

antigonemuse
07-14-2008, 03:47 PM
hehehhe.... this is my scam buddy....

but i do it a bit different.. when i go i steal the supplies.... they usually keep all the iv shit in draws in each room at my locala er, or if im in extended stay they bring in baskets. i take what i need. when i go home i hook up my own IV. I use to do this more in the begining because i had a harder time finding veins and would make a sheer mess of my self. so having the IV in for three days would save me alot of pain and missed shots.

the trick is to teach yourself how to do it properly without having a proper lesson. you gotta watch real close. my first time was a success but for one thing, i forgot to pinch off the tube and my blood came squirting out all over my couch. the stains are still there and the shock of it was so wild that it took me a few seconds to figure out what the fuck to do. but i inched it off, managed to finish the IV off (removed the needle part, tapped it down, and attached the part to flush it out with saline and put my shots in. all in al i was quite impressed with myself. I did it almost perfect on my first stick. but i had alot of time to learn. and i had just come from a 7 day stay where i was recieving IV meds 3 times a day (not including pain meds).

While i was there i was doping in my IV and knew i wanted to try it at home.


now it not a new thig by the way, for junkies to go to the er to get the IV and leave. its been going on for decades. its an old scam.

Groggy
07-14-2008, 08:41 PM
or I guess I could ask a nurse friend of mine to help w/ a quick lesson in IV installation. is there a quick list of OTC shit you could flush w/? it seems that keeping the IV covered would keep it clean within reason. I've got great veins so I could just rotate every three days.

roxi*stardust
07-14-2008, 09:11 PM
or I guess I could ask a nurse friend of mine to help w/ a quick lesson in IV installation. is there a quick list of OTC shit you could flush w/? it seems that keeping the IV covered would keep it clean within reason. I've got great veins so I could just rotate every three days.


You maybe able to NACL OTC but I doubt it. The HepLock (Heparin) is RX only. Some (maybe even most now) hospitals use the needle-less IV systems now so you may need those syringes, I believe they are called Safety Syringes. Giving meds through these access ports is usually called IVP (IV Push). If you have a nurse friend they could help you. I'm a bit leary of posting a how to on this.

southernbelle
07-15-2008, 06:49 AM
Ahh, ok... it was just an IV. The cath you had in your neck is what I was referring to. Wouldn't it be nice to get one of those put in? Straight to the jugular, heh...

I had one the time I was in for a colon resection. The last night I was there, I whined about wanting something for pain. The nurse came in waving a syringe saying "Is dilaudid what you wanted hon?" And no, I'm not kidding. She put it right in one of the ports on my neck, and I finally figured out what all of you have been saying about the rush. :D Damn, that was fun.

riotgrrrl
07-15-2008, 08:13 AM
I live with a RN. We used to put them in when we were off work for a few days. It was great!! We also used to get the Dilaudid from the PCA's that was to be wasted. 30 mgs liquid straight in. I hate being clean, well sorta clean

Ginger Snap
07-18-2008, 07:37 PM
I had a buddy who was in the hospital for pancreatic cancer. we went to visit him and puffed him down in his room. the nurses kinda got pissed and discharged him. he managed to get out with the IV intact.

he shot a lotta dope into the IV on the street. always wondered if next time I get into a hospital stay if I should keep the IV. what kinda risks am I running by keepin the IV?


IV' in hospital are changed every 3 days, or should be. If it is flushed properly after use with saline and kept wrapped and clean, a day or 2 more wouldn't hurt. However, the BIG problem is an open line into the body can lead to sepsis or fungal infection which can be deadly. IV's for long time use are usually put in the subclavian (over the collarbone) or the jugular in the neck. Folks leave the hospital with ports and lines all the time for pain meds and chemo, it is just different types of equipmnet to lessen the chance of contamination.

Ginger Snap

irish
07-19-2008, 05:06 PM
When I was in hospital for multiple organ failure they had a central line in my interior jugular. This was for dialysis, but on to the point. It got infected, badly. I very nearly died because of it, but it is still safer than an iv for longer term use. You really do not want that kind of systemic infection, so be careful.

rockbottom
07-20-2008, 01:59 AM
i've done it when i had one in my hand--the nurses were pissed when they found out i had it in there for 3 days----:) then again my friend had a PICC line and he used to -shoot everything into it from herion speed to Mescline-a direct line to the heart--he died a few yrs later of leukemia:(