dxm or not?

[dexperation]

I'm sure everyone has been ripped off a number of times, but how do you know what the shit you're buying is before you take it? but even if you do know its still possible to be one of those unlucky people that get screwed over.

this guy who claimed he could get me pure dxm - don't know if that shit was pure, but i bought that shit from him for almost 2 yearsand I never really knew for sure what he was selling me. sounds stupid I know, and the shit wasn't the cheapest either. whatever it was it was really fuckin strong and the stuff they sell otc gave almost completely different effects. only reason I had switched to the otcshit (robitussin coughgels, syrup, etc) was cause it was cheaper and itwasat my local drugstore instead of 10 miles or so from my house. buthere's the thing, i was fuckin addicted to that shit that guy was selling me - and yes it was dxm, whether or not it was mixedwithanything else idont know, but i became mentally and physicallyaddictedto it, i experienced withdrawal symptoms that opiate users do.i still suffer from memory impairment, which i know is common when using dxm for a long period of time. i'm assuming it was dxm and some other narcotic, though i've heard its possible to become physically addicted to dxm. but it's more likely that I was taking shit that contained more than just pure dxm. i didn't really know the guy, i just met him at aparty. anyway, the amount i took was probably equivelent to 600mg but iwas too fucked up to notice the different between 1200mg and600mg so idont know, i just remember how i felt.. the effects i got were more similar to those of narcotic painkillers (which i have used in the past) i just remember feeling really numb, and i didnt care about anything.. i felt like i was separated from the rest of theworld.. i felt like i was floating.. i felt really good - but then of course i had effects that are most common in dxm trips, like my perception of distance, time, size, etc was fucked up.. my vision was blurry and fragmented.. everything seemed to be slower than normal.. i often didnt know where i was and i could barely walk.. etc

all i know is that shit definately contained more than just dxm

[jacky]

DXM is definiteley physically,emotionally and psychologically addictive. I experienced withdrawl similiar to tramadol/effexor when quitting DXM. I experienced withdrawl while taking opiates and quitting DXM. I took DXM in daily low doses mixed with opiates. I would also take larger doses up to about a half gram. I prefer ketamine or salvia divinorum for disassociative effects due to the length of DXM inebriation. DXM has in my opinion many different effects due to dosage amount. lower doses actually help me focus, stimulate or relax, mild to moderate mood lift/euphoria. Larger doses synchronicity can command attention, almost anywhere you look. Fractal harmonics may be percieved, outside of time,......mainly some very euphoric and meditative possibilitys. I started using it in a redundant manner, DXM became just another pain in the ass. I think it is a good substance for breaking a cycle, coming off of or dropping dosage of opiates, possibly stimulants as well. the main and pervasive withdrawl effect I experienced was spatial disorientation. this feels similiar to what some antideppressants withdrawl effects feel like, a rushing of the head, upon any movement it will feel like your body lags a bit then slams back into alignment.......sort of like 3 dimensional tracers....

[dexperation]

I agree. people who say it's notphysicallyaddictive don't know what they're talking about. and ifsomeone usesdxm and says they aren't addicted they're just denying thatthey are atleast mentally addicted.

I used dxm for about 18 months. At first, I just did it because Ilikedit, and then after a couple months I did about 400mg once every2weeks. soon 2 weeks ended up being 5-7 days, and 400mg ended upbeing600mg and after about 8 months I tried to quit. I didn't use itfor 2weeks, and I got tired of craving it all the time, so I took itagainand I was back to doing the same as before, only I did it wheneverIthought about it, and sometimes that was a day after I last tookit.sometimes I'd take it after it wore off, even when I knew it wasn'tagood idea. needless to say, its better to just enjoy the first tripandredose before its already worn off. After 8 months, all I wanted todowas take dxm, and by then I even went to class on the shit. when Iwentto starbucks I'd get coffee and quickly go to the restroom and putdxmin my coffee, because I liked it so much. When I wasn't on it,I'dthink about it all the time. Hell, I'd even dream about it. the moreIused it, the more my memory problems began to show. I began carryingadictionary with me everywhere because I couldn't remember how tospellthe word "agree" or "obviously" or "suspicious" (do i really needtomake a list of words i've forgotten how to spell over the past2years?) and then a lot of times I just forget things, and if ididntwrite things down i wouldnt remember them, like appointments. Itriedto quit, but the drug wouldn't let me. from there everything wasjust adownward spiral. i'd wake up in the basement, or on my bedroomfloor,not remembering anything that happened the past day. If I didnttake itevery 5 days I'd be really depressed, I'd suffer from insomnia,spatialdisoriention (yes i experienced that a lot too) and even nausea.Thehangovers would be really bad. I wouldn't feel normal again until2days after. I made another attempt in quitting after 15 months,failedagain. at that point I didn't do dxm, it did me. my boyfriend sawhowaddicted I was and he hated how I never put any effort intoquitting,and the truth was I didn't really want to. there were timeswhen i didbut i just gave in to the cravings or I got sick of thewithdrawalshit. but then I didn't touch dxm for a month. I'd never gonethat longwithout it before, but then june came along, and I was tooembarrassedto admit to my boyfriend that I couldnt do it, becauseadmitting Iwasnt in control was just something I couldn't do. so I wentbehind hisback and took the shit anyway, I did that several times, andthen atthe end of july I took dxm with ecstasy (not a good combination)andthat was the last time I ever did it. It was hard, I spent the first3months with really bad withdrawal, some days it was hell, and thenitwent away, but a few days later it'd be back. after that it wasntthatbad, but there would be times where i'd want it really bad..justcraving it for no reason at all, and i think the cravings weretheworst of it all.. because then i took other drugs instead.. firstitwas just marijuana but then once i took speed, and that was by fartheworst experience. first off, I took way too much. second, theentiretime I thought I was going to die, because my heartbeat wasirregularand really fast. I doubt I was actually going to die, but Ithought Iwas going to.

[jay]

juast want to share my experience.I experimented wit DXM 4 times .Each time was 1 week apart,first time it was only 2mg/kg of the syrup with no effect,2nd time went up to 3.5 mg/kg and it was a lot of fun especialy the body high even walking was fun and taking large steps felt like walking on the moon,3rd time was 4mg/kg and this time the novelety had worn off and it was not as fun,now the 4th time i got hold of some DXM pills and i took 6mg/kg and the effects were profund :out of body experience ,total body numbness ,almost complete lack of musckoloskeletal coordination and loss of position sense,to make it breif i could only move around on my hand and knees and tha is just for a few steps to put on different music,overall it was very physicaly icapacitating and i hated that aspect,i dont like to be out of control of my body ,getting high is fun but i always like to be able to function case of emergency,so if the novelity of the lower doses iwears off fast and the higher doses are too icapacitating then i think i will say goodbye to this interestng drug.

[Nuke]

Dxm is deffinetly addictive. The reason its not a "massive" problem is because the majority of people who experiment either hate it like poison or are just indifferent, there is some people who enjoy it very much and can become addicted. Honestly these kinda drugs, like DXM PCP even Ketamine can have some pretty damaging effects over long term exposure: Brain Damage, Mental illness to name a couple. Heres an article on erowid you might wanna read. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_health1.shtml Im not telling you to do it or not do it Id just rather you know the possible implications it may cause. All I reccommend is to experiment in moderation.

[dexperation]

juast want to share my experience.I experimented wit DXM 4 times .Each time was 1 week apart,first time it was only 2mg/kg of the syrup with no effect,2nd time went up to 3.5 mg/kg and it was a lot of fun especialy the body high even walking was fun and taking large steps felt like walking on the moon,3rd time was 4mg/kg and this time the novelety had worn off and it was not as fun,now the 4th time i got hold of some DXM pills and i took 6mg/kg and the effects were profund :out of body experience ,total body numbness ,almost complete lack of musckoloskeletal coordination and loss of position sense,to make it breif i could only move around on my hand and knees and tha is just for a few steps to put on different music,overall it was very physicaly icapacitating and i hated that aspect,i dont like to be out of control of my body ,getting high is fun but i always like to be able to function case of emergency,so if the novelity of the lower doses iwears off fast and the higher doses are too icapacitating then i think i will say goodbye to this interestng drug.
with the higher doses its better to be in a place you can relax. i'm lucky my friend was nice enough to stick around the times i got so fucked up that i couldnt even stand up. the first few times were fun, but with the higher doses i'd just be really numb, could barely move, i was hallucinating like fuck, once i thought i was in my neighbors house and someone was going to kill me. i enjoyed listening to music more but i could never pick up the lyrics. I still remember being in my friend's house after the party, and she kept commenting on how fucked up i was. she said that she asked me how many fingers she had and i told her she had 7 fingers on her right hand.. and she spent the next 2 hours making fun of me. the next day i took dxm in her bathroom and when i came out she asked what i was doing in there and i said i was getting high, and she asked if i had any more and i said no (i had more shit with me but i wasnt gonna share it with her) then a couple hours later i was real fucked up but she insisted that we walk a mile to mcdonalds so we walked there, through some neighborhood, etc and i felt like i was gonna pass out so we stopped in the park and her friend was there smoking weed and offered me a joint, i smoked it and damn weed makes me sick, i puked a lot. but my friend still insisted we go to mcdonalds, so we did and I ended up paying for her. at that moment I didnt care, I was fucked up so I just paid for her. but at least she was nice enough not to just go off without me

[bwitiacumen]

"Honestly these kinda drugs, like DXM PCP even Ketamine can have some pretty damaging effects over long term exposure"

Yup, that piperidine ring on PCP is a bitch on the brain, but its analogue, phenylcyclohexylethylamine (PCE) isn't, and it's about three times stronger! I've done several dissociatives (ketamine over 200 times), DXM - who knows how many times, and I haven't noticed olney's lesions consuming my mind. If you do any drug long enough, bad shit happens, but dissociatives have gotten a bad wrap ever since the info on sernyl (PCP) came out a million years ago.

[dexperation]

not everyone gets brain damage, but I'm one of the unlucky ones. my doctor wants me to see a neurologist, he won't even prescribe me anything before I see one, really annoying cause last time he just prescribed me something and left it at that. I never mentioned even anything, doctors tend to piss me off. don't want to know any more than I already do anyway

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

I have to say that DXM has been for me what it ISN'T for the vast majority of the crowd. I mean, reading the FAQ by William White was one thing, but doing it after an off and on heavy year of use was another. Fortunately, I have experienced no real side effects or lasting damage from my past use of the drug and occasionally still hit up good ol' Dexter the Meth Orphan on a dead quiet Saturday night. Much of this drugs properties and long term effect (not to mention a description of the so called 50 trip limit) can be found at erowid. I think after I hit trip number 30, the drug became more of a dissociative cage while high...people, the brain only has so much hidden that it can let out, and pretty soon your landscapes and visits with Motities the alien just turn into forgotten images that DXM released from your creative mind never to return again. If you are fortunate enough to keep the trip material coming after working your way up to 1400 mg doses each time you hit up Dr. Dexter, then good for you. If you find yourself increasing the dose simply because Motities the alien isn't showing up for you DON'T! Consider the fact that she could be gone forever, and move on to a drug that has a different palette. This is a fun drug, but it reacts on four different receptors in your brain at time folks, so it really gives your noggin a run for the money each time you load up on it.

[dexperation]

This stupid drug gave me fucking bipolar disorder. I was diagnosed beginning of april and I never had nearly as many symptoms before I started using DXM. Anyone can say it's in my family but I blame the DXM. Fucking evil drug fucked me up and now I'll be on antipsychotics for life and I can still barely remember how to spell words. I forget eveyrthing. I would like to kill whoever decided to put this drug on the market. If I go off my meds than I start craving it again, totally sucks.

My shrink says my memory problems are related to ADHD, which I highly doubt.. and given how easily I become addicted to drugs, why the fuck would a doctor prescribe me amphetamine?

[jacky]

because it is very similiar in ways to your natural brain chemistry....................

[Paregoric Kid]

I have friends who in high school took enough dextromethorphan to kill several people. they'd do this just about everyday for like 2 or 3 years, they never got physically addicted and they are doing alright. I'll see if I can get one of them to come on and share some of his experiences. dxm is ok once every month or so or when there is absolutly nothing else to do but I'm not the type of person that would want to take it recreationally everyday. I've used low doses for the purpose of lowering tolerance everday for a few months and experienced no negative side effects.
amphetamines aren't physically addictive and they are good for treating adhd.

[dexperation]

last week I flushed dxm down the toilet.. it felt good actually.. for once i felt like i had some control

[kramorph]

Fucken DXM was some"clever" chemists answer to stop abuse of opiod cough meds, ie no opiate effects. I wonder what he thinks now!Tried ketamine once, enjoyed it but wasnt a great thrill.Snorted first rthen wacked it up.Just felt like i wasnt where I was, never abused DXM, and after reading all this never will.But too long in the tooth now.I'm just an old stoner and junky, still enjoying the drugs of the past.(eg pot,smack and acid!)
Just thought I'd add this, back when I was studying pharmacy (discovered morphine just BEFORE finishing instead of AFTER, dickhead eh!) I learnt that Bromides can cause similar effects to some of the stuff I read hear, and DXM is usually available as the HYDROBROMIDE salt, which means if you take say 200mgs of DXM you are also taking 200mgs of bromide, Br-. Does anyone else know anything about bromides, I dont know much myself, seem to have forgotten lots of stuff over time,cant remember why though, just it rings a bell deep inside my head. And back in the 60's (before, Im not that old yet), wasnt there sporadic reports,episodes and possibly deaths due to bromides.Or is all this just some fucked up and confused vague recollection of something totally different?

[JoyDivision]

Most of the strong shit was made by "clever" chemists. Heroin, Morphine, Cocaine, LSD, MDMA, DXM, OxyContin, etc. I've only ever used doses of 120-150mg both for fun and for pain. That amount enough reddens my eyes, lowers my concentration, etc like I'm on pot. It certainly kills the pain but I find it also puts me to sleep or just makes me really groggy. I prefer codeine to it, I don't find it a very nice experience, especially around others but maybe alone it would be ok. Not as much clarity in movement or thought as with Codeine or Oxy.

[kramorph]

Exactly,LSD was an accident,Heroin was supposed to cure morphine addiction(well I suppose it does,it cured me,now all the morph I get I convert to H, lol),Even ecstacy(MDMA) was an attempt at curing something, cant remember what though.

[BuddhaLife]

I believe MDMA was first used as an appetite suppressant... I could be wrong though.